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Hey everyone,
the new Zenfone 6 is amazing, besides the FlipCamera it has nearly everything (big battery, microSD, 3,5 mm headphone,...).
Just one thing irritates me: there are three Versions A, B and C, as one can see here under "Network Standard"
https://www.asus.com/Phone/ZenFone-6-ZS630KL/Tech-Specs/
So can someone tell me what that means? Like if I get the European version A (with Band 20), will I than for instance not be able to use it in the USA for telephone / SMS?! Or just not LTE / can I still use it like on UMTS? No LTE at all or just not certain carriers?
Hope someone can make it clear to me, thanks in advance

You'll be able to use it anywhere, it's just there's slightly less band coverage, so some networks in some countries would be nixed.
See Kimovil.com for network compatibility.
Gearbest currently have the 6GB / 64GB Version C (most bands) for €495.

It means you'll have to be sure to verify you get the version with the bands needed for your particular carrier. You have to be very careful and verify before buying as it seems with the ZenFone 5Z, for example, sellers don't always properly clarify which version they're selling.
You need to find out which of the main bands your phone carrier uses then match them up to one of the versions. I use AT&T prepaid, so for for example I need a phone with coverage for bands 2,4,5,8, and 17 if I recall correctly.
If some bands aren't covered you won't have LTE in that area, as not all areas you're in are using the same network frequency bands. Therefore coverage can get worse when you travel with a phone without full band support.

Checked out the bands available on the Asus site you linked (thank you very much BTW) and it seems they are missing bands 66(extension of band 4) & 71 (600mhz frequency) so it seems like it may work okay on TMobile.
What do you guys think if those two bands are missing? Will it be detrimental to daily use or not really? Currently on an OG Pixel and this Asus offering is looking like a future purchase!!

CDMA (Sprint or Verizon) compatiblity in the US?

Stanto said:
CDMA (Sprint or Verizon) compatiblity in the US?
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Looks like the C variants might work for you but double check the bands for your carrier Kimovil.com.

mudnightoil said:
See Kimovil.com for network compatibility.
Gearbest currently have the 6GB / 64GB Version C (most bands) for €495.
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Thanks for the hint.
I need Band 20 (O2 Germany), so I can only use Version A (so no B or C for me).
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I just checked: T-Online and Vodafone use Band 20 and 32 (in Germany), but none of the three versions support both.

MartyM76 said:
If some bands aren't covered you won't have LTE in that area, as not all areas you're in are using the same network frequency bands. Therefore coverage can get worse when you travel with a phone without full band support.
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Ok, but does it mean I will at least have telephone and SMS in those areas, where the LTE band won't be supported?!

JJ111 said:
Ok, but does it mean I will at least have telephone and SMS in those areas, where the LTE band won't be supported?!
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Yes, as long at the other bands are supported (which they should be) it will drop to 3G/4G or whatever. That's why people using some Chinese phones for example in the USA can use everything but LTE.
You might
need to check however about VoLTE, I think. I don't have T-Mobile but you should read more about that as I've seen it mentioned in XDA & other places.
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> Gearbest currently have the 6GB / 64GB Version C (most bands) for €495
I only see the A version there. Where did you find the C version?

This device just hit my radar... looks like we might have an upgrade winner!
For Tmobile US, C model is the way to go. The two highest bands that are missing with this device would get you better signal indoors / less interference, but I am not sure how far along that tech even is.

charlatan01 said:
The two highest bands that are missing with this device would get you better signal indoors / less interference, but I am not sure how far along that tech even is.
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By highest bands do you mean 66 and 71? The only phones that use band 71 at the moment are Samsung s8 Active and LG V30. I currently have an OG Pixel and it does not use 66 or 71 and I get great coverage in the East coast even when going north into the mountains.

wreq5 said:
By highest bands do you mean 66 and 71? The only phones that use band 71 at the moment are Samsung s8 Active and LG V30. I currently have an OG Pixel and it does not use 66 or 71 and I get great coverage in the East coast even when going north into the mountains.
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Yep, those are the two. Those two are still relatively new, and general Tmo coverage continues to improve here in Colorado.

I imagine that once the phone is sold on the asus.com website that particular variant will support all the main carriers LTE bands. I would be surprised if there were any major issues with that otherwise what's the point of even selling it in the USA?

SantinoInc said:
I imagine that once the phone is sold on the asus.com website that particular variant will support all the main carriers LTE bands.
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Yes, for example in the case of the 5Z I just ordered (to get me by since I desperately need a phone with a better camera & no OLED to cause eye strain) the bands listed for phones at the Asus USA online store cover AT&T properly and to the best of my knowledge T-Mobile as well.
I figured out that they don't list phones there that aren't USA network compatible. I still check, regardless, just to feel 100% sure but that's what I found.
It's the 3rd party sellers you really need to be careful about and always verify.

The OnePlus 7 pro has bands 66 and 71.

This probably would have been my first choice until I noticed the different versions. With more and more manufacturers choosing to release single, global bands phones, I really don't understand why Asus insist on continuing to release regional versions of their phones.
Back in the days when everyone made regional models, I had the Padfone Infinity 2 and it was a great phone (until a late OTA release have it the new ZenUI, which was promptly removed). After reading that the latest ZenUI 6 has been slimmed down to an almost stock Android experience, I thought it might once again be similar to what Asus provided before ZenUI came along and that I can now once again consider Asus phones. Wrong!
I spend time in both Europe and Asia and there is no version that covers both areas major LTE bands. So Asus will have to remain on the list of phones to ignore.

Robbo.5000 said:
This probably would have been my first choice until I noticed the different versions. With more and more manufacturers choosing to release single, global bands phones, I really don't understand why Asus insist on continuing to release regional versions of their phones.
Back in the days when everyone made regional models, I had the Padfone Infinity 2 and it was a great phone (until a late OTA release have it the new ZenUI, which was promptly removed). After reading that the latest ZenUI 6 has been slimmed down to an almost stock Android experience, I thought it might once again be similar to what Asus provided before ZenUI came along and that I can now once again consider Asus phones. Wrong!
I spend time in both Europe and Asia and there is no version that covers both areas major LTE bands. So Asus will have to remain on the list of phones to ignore.
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I'm in the same position. The C version covers everything I need except for Band 20 which is a necessity throughout Europe. The A version has Bamd 20 but won't work on US LTE. They did the same thing with the Zenfone 2 and inexplicably mixed up the bands regionally. I'll stick with my NexS for now but keep an eye on this phone in case the Limited edition they usually release solves the problem.

prestonmcafee said:
The OnePlus 7 pro has bands 66 and 71.
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I don't want the OP7. This isn't the OP7 forum.

Mate 30 Pro 5G Bands

I purchased a mate 30 pro 5G. However, after doing a bit of research it looks like China and Europe have chosen to use different 5g bands than the US. According to the phone spec sheet, it doesn't look like the phone is compatible with US 5Gg bands. Am I interpreting things incorrectly?
https://www.phonearena.com/news/5G-bands-explained-Verizon-vs-AT-T-vs-Sprint-vs-T-Mobile-vs-World_id116781

pacattack81 said:
I purchased a mate 30 pro 5G. However, after doing a bit of research it looks like China and Europe have chosen to use different 5g bands than the US. According to the phone spec sheet, it doesn't look like the phone is compatible with US 5Gg bands. Am I interpreting things incorrectly?
https://www.phonearena.com/news/5G-bands-explained-Verizon-vs-AT-T-vs-Sprint-vs-T-Mobile-vs-World_id116781
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usa has poor networks they dont have variety of bands only one .. we in eu has more 2 or 3

I don't think any of the Chinese 5G bands of the mate 30 pro are compatible with any 5G USA frequency. Unfortunately you paid a premium for not much.
https://www.kimovil.com/en/frequency-checker/US/huawei-mate-30-pro
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Limeybastard said:
I don't think any of the Chinese 5G bands of the mate 30 pro are compatible with any 5G USA frequency. Unfortunately you paid a premium for not much.
https://www.kimovil.com/en/frequency-checker/US/huawei-mate-30-pro
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I tried to find info on the difference between lio-tl00 and lio-an00 both Chinese versions...
Any idea which one is more suitable for Europe.
Thanks

Archibald1963 said:
I tried to find info on the difference between lio-tl00 and lio-an00 both Chinese versions...
Any idea which one is more suitable for Europe.
Thanks
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That's what it looks like, but I get 5g sometimes with AT&T. Some of their mid and low bands are compatible. I think more bands are opening up in the US so who knows what eventually will happen. I don't believe Huawei has launched the European version yet. They were waiting to see if the ban would be lifted so they could launch with Google play. Check the bands on gsmarena they have both models listed and the bands for each.

Archibald1963 said:
I tried to find info on the difference between lio-tl00 and lio-an00 both Chinese versions...
Any idea which one is more suitable for Europe.
Thanks
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If you're referring to the 5G radio aspect and compatibility then according to gsm arena they all have the same frequencies.
Personally, if I were you I'd cross reference lio-an00 and lio-tl00 5g radio specs from an official Huawei website and compare it to what my countries 5G network has. That way you'd be 100% sure.
https://m.gsmarena.com/huawei_mate_30_pro_5g-9880.php
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Limeybastard said:
If you're referring to the 5G radio aspect and compatibility then according to gsm arena they all have the same frequencies.
Personally, if I were you I'd cross reference lio-an00 and lio-tl00 5g radio specs from an official Huawei website and compare it to what my countries 5G network has. That way you'd be 100% sure.
https://m.gsmarena.com/huawei_mate_30_pro_5g-9880.php
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Thanks, I am going to pick up Chinese version 5G....

I have the 5G version in Spain and it works correctly although my operator Movistar has not yet deployed the 5G network in my city.

Will a Chinese market Mi 10 Pro and/or Mi 10 Ultra work with UK Vodafone?

Hi there, hoping someone can help with an answer;
I'm considering buying a Chinese market version of either the Xiaomi Mi 10 Pro or Mi 10 Ultra but just wanted to make sure that I'll continue to get decent 4G coverage (and hopefully even 5G coverage) on Vodafone UK.
I realise the CN version of the phone doesn't support or have band 20 which from what I've googled so far is 800Mhz.
I have no idea how phone signal actually works, so with this missing band, will I still get full coverage from the remaining bands the phone does support; B1, B3 and B7?
Does it mean that with 75% of the bands, I'll only get 75% coverage? Do certain phone masts only broadcast in B20, meaning I'd get zero 4G signal if the masts my phone uses fall into that scenario?
I'm a complete Layman with all this stuff (as I'm sure you can probably tell from the above ) so was hoping someone could help me out before I commit to spending a load of money on a phone that wont work here in the UK.
Thank you.

Incat said:
I don't know how Vodafone compares to Three here in the uk, but I've owned quite a few Xiaomi phones , and haven't really noticed any difference in ones that have B20 or not.
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Thank you for the reply,
So some of the Xiaomi phones you've had have been Chinese import ones?
And there was no difference in 4g performance Vs global Xiaomi phones? (Just asking coz global versions do have band 20 - 800Mhz)
Thanks.

Incat said:
Yes, but I'm on Three and it might be location dependent too, but I've never had a problem getting 4g on phones with no band 20.
Check what bands Vodafone use compared to Three.
You can buy a global Mi10 Pro with band 20, though the non pro seems easier to get hold of.
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That's great, I'll double check the differences in bands used between Three and Vodafone.
Finding a global Mi 10 Pro has been impossible so far, but fingers crossed......
Thanks very much again, really appreciate it.

Question OnePlus 9 5g ???

Does anyone have an idea on how I can get 5g on my op9 ,I pay for the service and I've tried a lot of settings fiddlin ,but nothing seems to connect .maybe I'm barking up the wrong tree all together ,lots of crossed facts online about this .Is it possible ?

What service do you have?
I have OP9 5g on TMobile.. 5g works for me

5G works for me also on mine..
LE2110 11.2.7.7DA Chinese Model
Google Fi Carrier

cass89 said:
What service do you have?
I have OP9 5g on TMobile.. 5g works for me
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mine is a global on postpaid att

Go into dialer settings #*#*4636*#*# phone info and make sure Nr is selected

AT&T doesn't have the OP9 as a certified phone on their network. There is no way around this, either. I've tried everything and even selecting NR doesn't yield 5G on the device. It has something to do with the bands AT&T users for 5G.

Do you get the 5G symbol or does it just stay on LTE?

You might be able to change "carrier_policy" using the Qualcomm .exe and QTSP .exe on the computer.
I have done it on other phones. there's a guide for it....
List of Bands and Carriers:
Modify OnePlus 7 Pro 5G, 8 and 8 Pro, 9 and 9 Pro NR/LTE-A band combos - MT-TECH.FI
On this instruction we will modify OnePlus 7 Pro 5G, 8 and 8 Pro band combo profiles with Qualcomm software. OnePlus has limited 5G access and 4G+/LTE+ Carrier Aggregation combinations and this instruction help you to unlock. However this instruction doesn’t unlock hardware defined combinations...
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Guide to Force 5G:
[GUIDE] Fix/Enable 5G and DSS
Enable 5G and DSS on OnePlus 8T As you may or may not know OnePlus didn't add proper changes into EFS configs to allow us use 5G on every network in the world. This guide will help you unlock 5G access and DSS (Dynamic Spectrum Sharing) and...
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You will not get 5G on ATT with this phone. Blame ATT.

illusiveairforce said:
You might be able to change "carrier_policy" using the Qualcomm .exe and QTSP .exe on the computer.
I have done it on other phones. there's a guide for it....
List of Bands and Carriers:
Modify OnePlus 7 Pro 5G, 8 and 8 Pro, 9 and 9 Pro NR/LTE-A band combos - MT-TECH.FI
On this instruction we will modify OnePlus 7 Pro 5G, 8 and 8 Pro band combo profiles with Qualcomm software. OnePlus has limited 5G access and 4G+/LTE+ Carrier Aggregation combinations and this instruction help you to unlock. However this instruction doesn’t unlock hardware defined combinations...
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Guide to Force 5G:
[GUIDE] Fix/Enable 5G and DSS
Enable 5G and DSS on OnePlus 8T As you may or may not know OnePlus didn't add proper changes into EFS configs to allow us use 5G on every network in the world. This guide will help you unlock 5G access and DSS (Dynamic Spectrum Sharing) and...
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I'm gonna try it .

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I'm gonna try it .
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Did it work?

Bricked it while trying something Xtra stupid,msm and unlocked the bl ,been busy with Pyrenees pups ever since ,I'll try it tonight .

XNine said:
AT&T doesn't have the OP9 as a certified phone on their network. There is no way around this, either. I've tried everything and even selecting NR doesn't yield 5G on the device. It has something to do with the bands AT&T users for 5G.
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This right here. As a former AT&T employee (corporate office, not retail level), I can tell you that it is most likely that the handset does not use the same 5G bands as AT&T.
AT&T primarily uses the n260 band (39GHz mmWave) and the Global OnePlus 9 does not use that band. In fact, none of the models of OnePlus 9 use n260. Now, from what I understand, AT&T *does* provide low-band n5 service in some areas so it IS possible that some users may report having 5G service on their OP9, but it's purely because they're in a low-band n5 area and as soon as they move into a more populated area where it switches to n260Go to and see,their phone will drop back to LTE.
What I can tell you from my real world experience is that 5G is really nothing to write home about. I live in one of the largest markets in the US and 5G is really not any faster than LTE most of the time. In some cases, it's actually SLOWER.
https://www.kimovil.com/en/frequency-checker this is an excellent frequency checker if you want to see if a phone will work on your carrier before you buy it.

agentfusion said:
This right here. As a former AT&T employee (corporate office, not retail level), I can tell you that it is most likely that the handset does not use the same 5G bands as AT&T.
AT&T primarily uses the n260 band (39GHz mmWave) and the Global OnePlus 9 does not use that band. In fact, none of the models of OnePlus 9 use n260. Now, from what I understand, AT&T *does* provide low-band n5 service in some areas so it IS possible that some users may report having 5G service on their OP9, but it's purely because they're in a low-band n5 area and as soon as they move into a more populated area where it switches to n260Go to and see,their phone will drop back to LTE.
What I can tell you from my real world experience is that 5G is really nothing to write home about. I live in one of the largest markets in the US and 5G is really not any faster than LTE most of the time. In some cases, it's actually SLOWER.
https://www.kimovil.com/en/frequency-checker this is an excellent frequency checker if you want to see if a phone will work on your carrier before you buy it.
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The LE2115 OnePlus 9 has AT&T's low band and C-Band 5G bands, with no mmWave, the LE2125 9 Pro has all of AT&T's 5G bands yet AT&T does not want to whitelist it for 5G access on their network. Verizon certified it for their 5G (OnePlus 9, nationwide 5G, and you can use QPST to enable C-Band on the 9, OnePlus 9 Pro, nationwide 5G, you can use QPST to enable C-Band on the 9 Pro, and mmWave), why can't AT&T?

Question 5G not working in Kuwait

I just bought Galaxy S22 Ultra from Samsung US website unlocked, then my work moved me to Kuwait. I purchased a 5G sim card but was never able to connect at 5G speed (my carrier is Ooredoo).
I went back to the store the the sales person took my sim card and placed it in an iPhone and the 5G worked perfectly with a speed of 750.
I called Samsung and they told me that because you have a US version, it should only works 5G in the states.
Any suggestions please on what to do?
Please note that I already checked all basic settings like selecting the 5G network and checked the APN settings for Ooredoo.

Sounds like the bands aren't compatible. What 5G bands is ooredoo using?

This is what I found
Ooredoo Kuwait
Company Overview Ooredoo in Kuwait, formerly known as Wataniya Telecom, is the second largest mobile carrier in the country, and a member of the Qatari-owned Ooredoo Group. Commercially launched in December 1999, the company provides mobile, broadband internet and corporate managed services...
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They use a different band than the s22 us unlocked has. I'm there too and no luck with 5g. Worked on an ipad though

ErickF said:
They use a different band than the s22 us unlocked has. I'm there too and no luck with 5g. Worked on an ipad though
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The thing is a company like Apple makes only one version of each model that works everywhere in the world but here Samsung make many varieties of the same model that region specific... Unbelievable. I will no longer buy Samsung and will switch back to iPhone.

ElmoScarletMacaw said:
The thing is a company like Apple makes only one version of each model that works everywhere in the world but here Samsung make many varieties of the same model that region specific... Unbelievable. I will no longer buy Samsung and will switch back to iPhone.
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Just make sure not to buy one in kuwait. They don't have the mmwave bands for the us. So apple does make different models for different markets too. This year just happened to have the 13 series with most bands(not all)

ErickF said:
Just make sure not to buy one in kuwait. They don't have the mmwave bands for the us. So apple does make different models for different markets too. This year just happened to have the 13 series with most bands(not all)
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Oh really! I will wait for the 14 pro max anyway and will make sure it will work in both regions before I buy it. Thanks for your reply Erick.

ElmoScarletMacaw said:
Oh really! I will wait for the 14 pro max anyway and will make sure it will work in both regions before I buy it. Thanks for your reply Erick.
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incase you still have the phone. i just tried the tutorial on unlocking all 5g bands and it works with 5g here in kuwait. just in case you havent tried it

There are two working solutions for S22 Ultra US models at this forum:
How to Enable All Bands Through Service Menu on US/CA S22 series (including Sub-6 and mmWave)
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Enable & Select Bands thru Dialer (S22 Fam) /CSC CHANGE (S22 & MORE)
***Tested on S908U & S908U1*** But not limited, to those specific models. S22 Family should also be compatible as well...as the NEW FOLD 4. Thanks @Abaddon BAND SELECTION: To ENABLE all bands, please do the following: (See pictures attached...
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Process is relatively easy, and after completing either of those two above, phone ends up with all 4G and 5G bands available