I purchased a mate 30 pro 5G. However, after doing a bit of research it looks like China and Europe have chosen to use different 5g bands than the US. According to the phone spec sheet, it doesn't look like the phone is compatible with US 5Gg bands. Am I interpreting things incorrectly?
https://www.phonearena.com/news/5G-bands-explained-Verizon-vs-AT-T-vs-Sprint-vs-T-Mobile-vs-World_id116781
pacattack81 said:
I purchased a mate 30 pro 5G. However, after doing a bit of research it looks like China and Europe have chosen to use different 5g bands than the US. According to the phone spec sheet, it doesn't look like the phone is compatible with US 5Gg bands. Am I interpreting things incorrectly?
https://www.phonearena.com/news/5G-bands-explained-Verizon-vs-AT-T-vs-Sprint-vs-T-Mobile-vs-World_id116781
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usa has poor networks they dont have variety of bands only one .. we in eu has more 2 or 3
I don't think any of the Chinese 5G bands of the mate 30 pro are compatible with any 5G USA frequency. Unfortunately you paid a premium for not much.
https://www.kimovil.com/en/frequency-checker/US/huawei-mate-30-pro
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Limeybastard said:
I don't think any of the Chinese 5G bands of the mate 30 pro are compatible with any 5G USA frequency. Unfortunately you paid a premium for not much.
https://www.kimovil.com/en/frequency-checker/US/huawei-mate-30-pro
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I tried to find info on the difference between lio-tl00 and lio-an00 both Chinese versions...
Any idea which one is more suitable for Europe.
Thanks
Archibald1963 said:
I tried to find info on the difference between lio-tl00 and lio-an00 both Chinese versions...
Any idea which one is more suitable for Europe.
Thanks
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That's what it looks like, but I get 5g sometimes with AT&T. Some of their mid and low bands are compatible. I think more bands are opening up in the US so who knows what eventually will happen. I don't believe Huawei has launched the European version yet. They were waiting to see if the ban would be lifted so they could launch with Google play. Check the bands on gsmarena they have both models listed and the bands for each.
Archibald1963 said:
I tried to find info on the difference between lio-tl00 and lio-an00 both Chinese versions...
Any idea which one is more suitable for Europe.
Thanks
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If you're referring to the 5G radio aspect and compatibility then according to gsm arena they all have the same frequencies.
Personally, if I were you I'd cross reference lio-an00 and lio-tl00 5g radio specs from an official Huawei website and compare it to what my countries 5G network has. That way you'd be 100% sure.
https://m.gsmarena.com/huawei_mate_30_pro_5g-9880.php
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Limeybastard said:
If you're referring to the 5G radio aspect and compatibility then according to gsm arena they all have the same frequencies.
Personally, if I were you I'd cross reference lio-an00 and lio-tl00 5g radio specs from an official Huawei website and compare it to what my countries 5G network has. That way you'd be 100% sure.
https://m.gsmarena.com/huawei_mate_30_pro_5g-9880.php
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Thanks, I am going to pick up Chinese version 5G....
I have the 5G version in Spain and it works correctly although my operator Movistar has not yet deployed the 5G network in my city.
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Hi all, I ordered a 32 GB Pearl White (presumably FRD-L04) on Amazon's Black Friday sale, I live in the UK, had it shipped to a friend in the US. According to hihonor, the phone should support all the US and UK bands. According to FrequencyCheck, only the 64GB (FRD-L14) US model supports the European bands 3 and 20. Which is correct? If the phone I ordered won't support 3 and 20, I may as well return it now.
Thanks!
I also bought Honor 8. Only difference is that US version is single sim and much more LTE bands. According to official site it should support that bands.
I finded here specifications for all versions: http://www.smartphonerankings.com/huawei-honor-8-frd-l04/
marko207 said:
I also bought Honor 8. Only difference is that US version is single sim and much more LTE bands. According to official site it should support that bands.
I finded here specifications for all versions: http://www.smartphonerankings.com/huawei-honor-8-frd-l04/
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Yes, I believe FrequencyCheck is wrong, but it claims the European bands 3 and 20 are only supported in FRD-L14 (the 64 GB version) and not in FRD-L04. Hopefully this is untrue.
AllieKitty said:
Hi all, I ordered a 32 GB Pearl White (presumably FRD-L04) on Amazon's Black Friday sale, I live in the UK, had it shipped to a friend in the US. According to hihonor, the phone should support all the US and UK bands. According to FrequencyCheck, only the 64GB (FRD-L14) US model supports the European bands 3 and 20. Which is correct? If the phone I ordered won't support 3 and 20, I may as well return it now.
Thanks!
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marko207 said:
I also bought Honor 8. Only difference is that US version is single sim and much more LTE bands. According to official site it should support that bands.
I finded here specifications for all versions: http://www.smartphonerankings.com/huawei-honor-8-frd-l04/
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Yes, I believe FrequencyCheck is wrong, but it claims the European bands 3 and 20 are only supported in FRD-L14 (the 64 GB version) and not in FRD-L04. Hopefully this is untrue.
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Hey guys, can you update on this?
I'm studying abroad in England for 5 months and I have this exact model of the Honor 8, and wanted to know if I can get a reliable 4G LTE connection while I'm in England... I'm going to get a plan with Vodafone, EE, or O2 when I get there. If you could let me know, I'd really appreciate it.
Thanks in advance!
connorhiller said:
Hey guys, can you update on this?
I'm studying abroad in England for 5 months and I have this exact model of the Honor 8, and wanted to know if I can get a reliable 4G LTE connection while I'm in England... I'm going to get a plan with Vodafone, EE, or O2 when I get there. If you could let me know, I'd really appreciate it.
Thanks in advance!
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Check a website called "will my phone work..." (Search in google) and input phone, model...etc
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Check a website called "will my phone work..." (Search in google) and input phone, model...etc
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I tried that, but, unfortunately the particular model sold at Best Buy and Amazon isn't an option on willmyphonework.net
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I tried that, but, unfortunately the particular model sold at Best Buy and Amazon isn't an option on willmyphonework.net
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then, you'll have to test it by yourself
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then, you'll have to test it by yourself
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That's why I'm asking the 2 people who commented in this thread, they live in the UK and can tell me for sure.
Here you go here is a list for radio bands compatibility list for Honor FDR04 /14 /01 AND 14 for use in UK with most of the providers..
www.frequencycheck.com/compatibility/K0BOsOx/huawei-honor-8-dual-sim-lte-a-frd-l04/united-kingdom
You can select any country by the way.. If I were you op for Virgin mobile or Plusnet both run off EE but have better signal and deals to the overs..
I bought the FRD-L09 model while I was overseas and I live in the USA, the salesperson assured me it would work on 4G here but it definitely doesn't... If you still have the FRD-L04 model would you be willing to trade? Mine is the blue 32G model and it is basically new, I bought it about a month ago. I love the phone but only having 3G is killing me...
Nyssa1104 said:
Here you go here is a list for radio bands compatibility list for Honor FDR04 /14 /01 AND 14 for use in UK with most of the providers..
www.frequencycheck.com/compatibility/K0BOsOx/huawei-honor-8-dual-sim-lte-a-frd-l04/united-kingdom
You can select any country by the way.. If I were you op for Virgin mobile or Plusnet both run off EE but have better signal and deals to the overs..
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Thanks for this, but as someone stated above, I think Frequency Check is wrong here. According to Huawei Customer Care team on Amazon, the supports bands 3, 7, and 20 which are used for LTE in the UK, while Frequency Check doesn't have those.
I have posted a picture of both Huawei's listed network frequencies compared to Frequency Check's.
I never even knew that Honor released a single SIM variant of the Honor 8. I thought all Honor 8's were dual SIMs.
I can confirm Frequency check is wrong. I'm not back in the UK yet but I'm getting LTE on SoftBank in Japan. A warning - this model follows the American practice of calling 3G "4G". Only "4G LTE" actually means 4G.
AllieKitty said:
I can confirm Frequency check is wrong. I'm not back in the UK yet but I'm getting LTE on SoftBank in Japan. A warning - this model follows the American practice of calling 3G "4G". Only "4G LTE" actually means 4G.
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Awesome. Thanks, this is very relieving for me! Loving the phone so far... Had to put Nova Launcher on it but that's OK. I'm quite confident it will work in the UK now.
connorhiller said:
Awesome. Thanks, this is very relieving for me! Loving the phone so far... Had to put Nova Launcher on it but that's OK. I'm quite confident it will work in the UK now.
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Did you have any luck? I will be traveling with this and am trying to figure out the discrepancy between Honors specs and Frequency Check (and also the FCC testing report).
Bobomo said:
Did you have any luck? I will be traveling with this and am trying to figure out the discrepancy between Honors specs and Frequency Check (and also the FCC testing report).
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I think it's because not every country use every bands so Honor indicates only bands used for specific country.
I make an example: Band 20 could be used in USA but not in UK so indicates on UK version it have Band 20 is useless for UK's people
Has dual SIM.
I'm tempted to buy and import to UK. However, not sure:
1) If Wifi calling works (I've seen online some short-codes to input into dialler). Anyone know if these work (specifically 3 UK)
2) Situation re. network. Obviously I'm pretty sure 4g will be OK but not sure on 5g (Currently 3 UK and Virgin UK/EE/Vodafone)
Any suggestions?
BlueMeany68 said:
Has dual SIM.
I'm tempted to buy and import to UK. However, not sure:
1) If Wifi calling works (I've seen online some short-codes to input into dialler). Anyone know if these work (specifically 3 UK)
2) Situation re. network. Obviously I'm pretty sure 4g will be OK but not sure on 5g (Currently 3 UK and Virgin UK/EE/Vodafone)
Any suggestions?
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I'm using on Vodafone not the best network, LTE would be more of a problem with no band 20, 5g would be fine, I haven't been to 5g area to test other people in Europe have no problems with 5g
Xioami explained that the china modem and bands are quite different from Europe. With 4G you won't have B20 band and 5G antenna works differently (that's why in europe it's not dual sim).
deus_ex_yue said:
Xioami explained that the china modem and bands are quite different from Europe. With 4G you won't have B20 band and 5G antenna works differently (that's why in europe it's not dual sim).
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Well some one in Europe says Chinese version 5g working perfectly they posted on telegram group.
james1089 said:
Well some one in Europe says Chinese version 5g working perfectly they posted on telegram group.
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I have had china version to test before the global.
5G in Italy didn't work very good in the china Mi 10 pro. I mean that the global version has a 25% more speed.
deus_ex_yue said:
I have had china version to test before the global.
5G in Italy didn't work very good in the china Mi 10 pro. I mean that the global version has a 25% more speed.
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Is that even possible, or lockdown and heavy usage at the time of testing, side by side?
My Chinese version works fine on 5G in UK. Not sure about Italy but in UK we only use N78 5G band and the mi 10 Chinese version has that and several other bands so I'm not sure what you mean by a 25% difference in speed?
Hi team,
It seems OnePlus is showing different frequencies on the 5G band for phones sold in China (IN2010) and Europe (IN2013).
IN2010: Bands 41, 78 & 79
IN2013: Bands 1, 3, 7, 28, 78.
Does anyone who if a Chinese phone originally intended for IN2010 bands are flashed the international ROM IN21BA, are the other bands accessible in Europe . Other bands being, 1,3,7,28 ect.
Or is there a hardware lock?
It's technically programmed into NVRAM, but the publicly found version of QPST doesn't support this device, so I don't know of a way to modify the bands.
1,3,7,28 and 20 are 4g LTE bands in France, so Europe. It's not 5g bands
These bands are presents on the IN2010 model too
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It's technically programmed into NVRAM, but the publicly found version of QPST doesn't support this device, so I don't know of a way to modify the bands.
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Shame, when Europe starts using band 28 on 5G, the Chinese imported phone won't support this band then.
Also i recommend compare 4G and 5G Combinations between China and Europe variant:
China: https://cacombos.com/device?model=IN2010
Europe: https://cacombos.com/device?model=IN2013
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Would be Interested in this topic as well...?.
Actupsp ...are you sure ?
samco08 said:
Hello.
Would be Interested in this topic as well...?.
Actupsp ...are you sure ?
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In France B28 used for 4G LTE for now but i think they will transfer it to 5G like other countries. That will be low band 5G for many countries to build coverage.
I'm wondering if we can unlock additional LTE bands in k30 Pro chinese variant for people who bought the Zoom version. I read it can be done on old devices and bands are not removed by hardware, only locked. Here you can read some examples:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-note-pro/how-to-unlock-lte-frequency-bands-mi-t3215880
https://forums.oneplus.com/threads/guide-how-to-unlock-additional-lte-bands-on-chinese-us-variants-of-oneplus-3.479445/
I hope an expert can throw some light about this and if it can be done on modern devices.
Not having band 20 on vodafone or virgin makes no difference in the U.K. This was an issue years ago as Europe only used band 20, Europe also use band 1,3 and 7 so really isn't a problem anymore. Please search what bands your country uses, it will more than likely use 20 still but the others will also be available. I'm using the zoom model.
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Not having band 20 on vodafone or virgin makes no difference in the U.K. This was an issue years ago as Europe only used band 20, Europe also use band 1,3 and 7 so really isn't a problem anymore. Please search what bands your country uses, it will more than likely use 20 still but the others will also be available. I'm using the zoom model.
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Well, if you're living in Germany band 20 is essential. Otherwise you won't have signal on the countryside.
So I'm also quite curious about unlocking different lte bands especially on the k30 pro zoom edition.
dhaern said:
I'm wondering if we can unlock additional LTE bands in k30 Pro chinese variant for people who bought the Zoom version. I read it can be done on old devices and bands are not removed by hardware, only locked. Here you can read some examples:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-note-pro/how-to-unlock-lte-frequency-bands-mi-t3215880
https://forums.oneplus.com/threads/guide-how-to-unlock-additional-lte-bands-on-chinese-us-variants-of-oneplus-3.479445/
I hope an expert can throw some light about this and if it can be done on modern devices.
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This would be marvellous!!
vivede said:
Well, if you're living in Germany band 20 is essential. Otherwise you won't have signal on the countryside.
So I'm also quite curious about unlocking different lte bands especially on the k30 pro zoom edition.
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Same applies for Netherlands unfortunately. I might just go for the global Poco F2 Pro but I kinda want the Zoom edition lol.
@dhaern
Some info how 5G bands were unlocked on other phones (tools involved QXDM, QPST, com.qtrun.QuickTest)
Guide how to unlock bands and 5G on 700mhz
https://forum.xda-developers.com/redmi-7a/help/5g-700mhz-unlock-t4114679
Enable 5G for OnePlus 8 series and OnePlus 7 5G
https://forums.oneplus.com/threads/enable-5g-for-oneplus-8-series-and-oneplus-7-5g.1239089/
X55 spec wise should is able to handle two sim 5G
How many times will this come up? Seriously it can't be done.
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dhaern said:
I'm wondering if we can unlock additional LTE bands in k30 Pro chinese variant for people who bought the Zoom version. I read it can be done on old devices and bands are not removed by hardware, only locked. Here you can read some examples:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-note-pro/how-to-unlock-lte-frequency-bands-mi-t3215880
https://forums.oneplus.com/threads/guide-how-to-unlock-additional-lte-bands-on-chinese-us-variants-of-oneplus-3.479445/
I hope an expert can throw some light about this and if it can be done on modern devices.
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the above link was posted 5 years ago, I'm not an expert but I tried every means possible on the OnePlus 3t, I was also told by people that knew more about it than me that it couldn't be done.
I tried on my old galaxy S4 never been successful
Looks like it's impossible on our phones - QPST sees the phone, but can't do anything with modem memory. Maybe because it's encrypted.
I don't really need band 20, but LTE-A band 7+7 or 7+3 is very needed. In Chinese 2020 models Xiaomi cuts off CA 7+7 support for some reason. My Redmi K20 holds LTE-A CA 7+7 easily.
I have a Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra 5G bought from the US (SM-N986U1) and I am currently in the Philippines. Is there any way I can make the 5G work here? If currently there is no way, would you think there will be in the near future?
Depends if the 5g bands are the same in both countries (and operators), you'd need to check that.
You could try the whitelisting method used on the Hong Kong variants which allows 5g use in Europe. Google it.
This is interesting part. I've been thinking about this not long time ago. My idea is as HK variant has same chipset etc, except storage with USA variant. So I believe it possible in some way to enable hidden or locked 5G bands on USA variant.
Not possible make to work because it do not support bands used bands and combinations used in Philippines: https://cacombos.com/device/SM-N986U
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Depends if the 5g bands are the same in both countries (and operators), you'd need to check that.
You could try the whitelisting method used on the Hong Kong variants which allows 5g use in Europe. Google it.
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This is interesting part. I've been thinking about this not long time ago. My idea is as HK variant has same chipset etc, except storage with USA variant. So I believe it possible in some way to enable hidden or locked 5G bands on USA variant.
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Not possible make to work because it do not support bands used bands and combinations used in Philippines: https://cacombos.com/device/SM-N986U
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Thanks for the replies. I already sold my US variant and bought a brand new HK version. So far benefitting with the dual sim.
reidleingod said:
Thanks for the replies. I already sold my US variant and bought a brand new HK version. So far benefitting with the dual sim.
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hi mate just for knowing, i had this idea to import myself a broken note 20 ultra 5g US variant, you said that the 5G is not working. Did the 4g,3g or 2g worked for you? im from italy and i found on ebay a good priced phone, but now im scared that the network will not work for me. i found the philippines band chart with all the frequencies and bands. like in italy, only one/two of them are supported and i would like to know if the network was working.
Ricks[DEV] said:
hi mate just for knowing, i had this idea to import myself a broken note 20 ultra 5g US variant, you said that the 5G is not working. Did the 4g,3g or 2g worked for you? im from italy and i found on ebay a good priced phone, but now im scared that the network will not work for me. i found the philippines band chart with all the frequencies and bands. like in italy, only one/two of them are supported and i would like to know if the network was working.
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Hey there. Yes. My former Note 20 Ultra 5G US variant's 4G is working in the Philippines.
I recommend you get also the Hong Kong (Snapdragon) variant instead, as I have read somewhere that HK variant's 5G could work in the UK.
reidleingod said:
Thanks for the replies. I already sold my US variant and bought a brand new HK version. So far benefitting with the dual sim.
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Well this answers my question. I recently bought a US version note 20 ultra 5g and having trouble activating the 5g on my phone which seems to be impossible. I should have bought a snapdragon hk version instead then. This is very frustrating cause I'm really enjoying the benefits of a Note phone.