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WP7 Mango Multiask.

Will multitaks on mango, allow an app such as whatsapp or any messiging client run in the background like in android?
Thanks

Yes, it will. But it's more like iOS than Android. Android doesnt freeze the app. That's why Android use more battery usually.
It will freeze and let you come back to where you stopped.

I know that, it freezes the app, but can i still recieve messages while the app is frozen in the background like andorid. i hate ios.

Yes, you can, it doesn't kill the process, so it keep you connected.

Running in the background and the sockets API's will allow the IM programs we are used to. You will get messages while its not open just like your txt messages.

Apps will be forzen but will be allowed to run "live agents" in the backgrounds. These live agents can recieve messages and can give you a toast notification. These notifications will be deep linked... i.e. clicking on the notification will take you directly to the conversation. So overall it will behave just like any chat program on Android, but the whole app will not be running and thus will save battery and won't impact performance of the phone.

arkavat said:
Apps will be forzen but will be allowed to run "live agents" in the backgrounds. These live agents can recieve messages and can give you a toast notification. These notifications will be deep linked... i.e. clicking on the notification will take you directly to the conversation. So overall it will behave just like any chat program on Android, but the whole app will not be running and thus will save battery and won't impact performance of the phone.
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This is only partially correct. Live Agents aren't especially useful for things like IM and messengers because there are restrictions on how often they can run and for how long. I think the most a Live Agent can run is once every 30 minutes and for 15 seconds.
Most of the apps you guys are asking about (i.e. WhatsApp) will work like they do on iOS, with push notifications.

Thanks everyone, I rember live agents now. Thanks, Otherwise I would have had to switch back to andorid. And Tbh I lost WP7 a alot.

andoridkiller said:
Thanks everyone, I rember live agents now. Thanks, Otherwise I would have had to switch back to andorid. And Tbh I lost WP7 a alot.
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How are push notifications and Live tiles on Vodafone? Do they break too for you? Wondering if it's carrier specific.

I wish i could anwser that question accurately but im a ROM junkie so every month i either hard reset or change my rom. However regarding vodafone nothing has broken, all fine, but i think its because i reset my phone a lot, mainly to get free some space up.

Peew971 said:
How are push notifications and Live tiles on Vodafone? Do they break too for you? Wondering if it's carrier specific.
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I often hear people talking about push and carrier. But I live in Brazil, where WP7 is not supported yet, and I have absolutely no problem with push.
And does carrier really matters to push?! If you turn plain mode on and turn wifi on, will it change something?

mikeeam said:
I often hear people talking about push and carrier. But I live in Brazil, where WP7 is not supported yet, and I have absolutely no problem with push.
And does carrier really matters to push?! If you turn plain mode on and turn wifi on, will it change something?
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Please listen to the facts. It IS highly dependent on how your carrier handels and cuts-off data connections. This is mainly a European carrier problem because of the techniques some carriers use to free up the network...
And indeed using wifi only (without a SIM card in your phone) will keep push working the way its supposed to work. Well unless you have a router which does not work well wit wp7.
Here is the explaination and what they did to make it function correctly in Europe
http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Windows-Phone-7/Inside-the-Mango-Dev-Tools
If you watch channel 9 it is explained.

Well, it's not non-sense. We don't have problems with cut-off data here. So i'm not "spreading nonsense". It's just a problem that I never had with any smartphone.
Still, yes, you're right, carrier can do that. Good luck to you (;

mikeeam said:
Well, it's not non-sense. We don't have problems with cut-off data here. So i'm not "spreading nonsense". It's just a problem that I never had with any smartphone.
Still, yes, you're right, carrier can do that. Good luck to you (;
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True, sorry. Its just a bit frustrating if you are facing the problem yourself and there are people telling you well are you sure its this and that, since we dont have that problem at all here
Yeah we know... I just found out the hard way, my carrier is just one of the unfortunates. All other dutch carriers apparently are being handled fine by WP7.
I dont know an exact list of all carriers with whom WP7 PN does not work, however TMobile NL and I have heard Tre Italia and O2 UK and apparently the carrier of Peew are problem cases as well. Not sure though, but it does not really matter as apparently they fixed these problems with Mango so lets just wait and see. And I have a one year contract so I can ditch them if its not fixed, it sucks for the people who are tied into a 2 year contract though.

[MOD] Enable "Phone" Features on T-Mobile T869

To give you a little context, I came over to the T869 from the Galaxy Tab 2 7.0, which is basically the WiFi-only sibling of the "Plus" T869 that T-Mobile now sells. Being a WiFi only device, it had the "phone" parts of the GUI disabled, like the Phone and Messaging apps won't show up or run and you can't sync BlueTooth headsets. The T869 has the MMS app enabled, but no phone, so the same mod I did on the P3113 is useful on this one.
Thankfully, even though it seems fairly arcane, Wes Foster made a nice utility to make this much easier (and more n00b friendly) to do.
To do this (and other framework mods), first you should pull the framework-res.apk file out of the ROM.zip file you're using. Open the zip and go into /system/framework. In there you'll find framework-res.apk, which you should extract.
Drop that file into the "place-framework-res-here" folder within the Mod tool, then run the tool and enter option 1.
This will unpack the files to the "files-to-edit" folder.
Inside there you'll need to go to \framework-res.apk\res\values\
You'll need to modify the file bools.xml. Find this line and change "false" to "true":
Code:
[B]<bool name="config_voice_capable">false</bool>[/B]
Once you make that change, you're all set to "enable" phone features. You can also make other changes as desired.
Here's a partial guide: http://www.igottadroid.com/ModMarket/Listings/Darkside Agent1621289.html
Once you're done modifying the file, save it, and then run through options 2, 3, and 4 on the mod tool.
Once its done, you'll have a flashable ZIP file named "update.zip" inside the final-zip-file folder.
For extra safety, I reccomend making a copy of the update.zip called revert_framework.zip.
Open this copy in 7-Zip, go into the /system/framework folder, and delete the framework-res.apk file there. Replace it with the unmodified one from your ROM, then close 7-Zip. Now you have a second "flashable" ZIP that will put the untouched framework back onto your tablet, which comes in handy if you managed to break something and cannot boot
I did not make the tool, and found it in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1823701
I am simply reposting it over here since I found it very helpful

I stumbled across this thread when I was about to ask about the international version...is there any chance you could post a video of this in action? Not that I don't believe this works, but I remember following a thread for the T-Mobile Springboard where a few people said a certain update would allow for phone/SMS, but then others who actively tried were unable to do so because of how T-Mobile picks up the IMEI (and doesn't let you use a phone SIM with a tablet).
If this works (and if it also keeps T-Mobile 4G), then this would be a MUCH better solution than buying an international 7.0 Plus (which is not only ~$200 more expensive on average but would only work on 2G on T-Mobile US).

Well, the T869 has SMS enabled natively. I got a "data only" pay-as-you-go plan for a 4G / WiFi hotspot earlier this year, and recently got the T869 with a contact. Both of these came with a 10 digit phone number for administrative purposes, and even the hotspot had the ability to receive SMS.
This particular trick doesn't do anything to the back end services themselves, so its not like you magically get phone service just by doing this.
I use a combination of SIP and Google Voice to do phone-type stuff without a phone.
I prefer this hack because it enables the native dialer, and pretty much all the good softphone solutions allow you to "integrate" with the native call log & dialer setup, so you just go to the normal "People" app and click someone's phone # and are then given an option to call them.
Without this hack, you must go into whatever 3rd party app you're using and initiate phone calls from there.
Remember, I initially started doing this on my WiFi Only GT-P3113 (which is basically a T869 without 4G or vibration).
I was never able to get the "Native" messaging app to behave quite right. There's a Google Voice SMS Integration app, and it can sync your GV texting into the native SMS app's text history, but it can't (or couldn't) trigger native SMS notifications correctly.
I am kinda over texting in general, as I have it piped through GoogleTalk. I receive SMS at my GoogleVoice phone #, and they are automatically forwarded to GoogleTalk via a third party web service called GVMax, which is free. GV Max is basically a GoogleVoice to XMPP bridge. After federating in my other IM accounts, GoogleTalk is now my one-stop-shop for textual communications.
Just my $0.02.
Isn't the "International" version so-called because its got a quad band radio that works on like any carrier?
Also, I have heard (though this is not confirmed) that the "International" edition doesn't come with an IR blaster, whereas the T869 does. I dunno if that's true or something you'd care about, but food for thought
magus57 said:
I stumbled across this thread when I was about to ask about the international version...is there any chance you could post a video of this in action? Not that I don't believe this works, but I remember following a thread for the T-Mobile Springboard where a few people said a certain update would allow for phone/SMS, but then others who actively tried were unable to do so because of how T-Mobile picks up the IMEI (and doesn't let you use a phone SIM with a tablet).
If this works (and if it also keeps T-Mobile 4G), then this would be a MUCH better solution than buying an international 7.0 Plus (which is not only ~$200 more expensive on average but would only work on 2G on T-Mobile US).
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Well from what I remember, the reviews I read about the 7.0 Plus were regarding the international version and all of them mentioned an IR blaster - but regardless, that'd be one of my least-used features of the tablet. Kinda disappointed that it'd still only be calls over data - I think I'd pay the extra $200 and suffer 2G speeds (at least until T-Mobile 1900Mhz roll-out comes to Chicago) for GSM calls alone, as I'd rather not deal with a separate data plan or tethering data off my phone to get calls.

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Well from what I remember, the reviews I read about the 7.0 Plus were regarding the international version and all of them mentioned an IR blaster - but regardless, that'd be one of my least-used features of the tablet. Kinda disappointed that it'd still only be calls over data - I think I'd pay the extra $200 and suffer 2G speeds (at least until T-Mobile 1900Mhz roll-out comes to Chicago) for GSM calls alone, as I'd rather not deal with a separate data plan or tethering data off my phone to get calls.
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Yeah that's kindof a deal breaker. Out here in Portland OR we have 4G in most places, and I'm either at work (in an office) or at home 90% of the time, where I have a high speed WiFi hookup, AND I almost never talk on the phone, so the data-only setup is perfect for guys like me.
GSM only would pretty much make that a dealbreaker, since I suspect the audio quality would be pretty terrible.

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Yeah that's kindof a deal breaker. Out here in Portland OR we have 4G in most places, and I'm either at work (in an office) or at home 90% of the time, where I have a high speed WiFi hookup, AND I almost never talk on the phone, so the data-only setup is perfect for guys like me.
GSM only would pretty much make that a dealbreaker, since I suspect the audio quality would be pretty terrible.
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While I do have a pretty stable 4G connection wherever I go (except for my brother's apartment, where ALL reception is horrible) or have access to my home's faster Wifi connection, and I don't talk much, I still get much better GSM service everywhere and can still get calls when I have to turn off data to save battery (since I use the data connection quite a bit when I'm away from a charger). And I haven't really had complaints with GSM audio or found voice over 4G/Wifi to be much clearer especially when the person on the other end is usually using GSM too..

I mean if you were doing some sorta data-only internet phone setup like SIP or GrooveIP or something. That's what I am using, and for it to sound alright you need decent bandwidth. Actually I ought to test out my stuff on a 2G connection and see how bad it is Should be interesting!

will this trick work on stock ICS build?

Galaxy t869
Does anyone know if this will allow making "regular" calls using my "regular" SIM CARD?
Thanks,
Jonathan

jon5407 said:
Does anyone know if this will allow making "regular" calls using my "regular" SIM CARD?
Thanks,
Jonathan
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I seriously doubt it, no way to be truly sure without trying it though.

T869UVLG7 ICS phone call hack
Hey I'm one the noobs mentioned in your post. I'm living in the Bahamas and a proud owner of the T869.First I have no idea what the ROM.zip is and whether this is supposed to be done on a desktop or the tab itself.I am rooted but running UVLG7 ICS UPDATE.It'd be awesome if I could get this working .My sim card is data and 3g/4g ready.Could you please /anyone inform. Thanks to u guys with your mod skills they're mad skills.Thanks man

Thanks mate~~
I did this on the T869 originally locked to T-Mobile, and it worked without a problem~!!!!
PS: >>> Be sure to first wipe cache. I skipped that the first time and i almost created an atomic bomb
PPS: >>> Also, the backup revert.zip is a brilliant idea, it's what i used when i messed up the first time!

Hey mate!
thanks again for the tutorial!
I have followed it to completion.
I however, can only do simple things like loading airtime [our networks are prepaid] and check balance,
but I can't seem to be able to make calls
I have an unlocked T869
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dubblecup said:
Hey I'm one the noobs mentioned in your post. I'm living in the Bahamas and a proud owner of the T869.First I have no idea what the ROM.zip is and whether this is supposed to be done on a desktop or the tab itself.I am rooted but running UVLG7 ICS UPDATE.It'd be awesome if I could get this working .My sim card is data and 3g/4g ready.Could you please /anyone inform. Thanks to u guys with your mod skills they're mad skills.Thanks man
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Hey,
are you trying to follow the tutorial and are having problems???
Please be a little more clear where you're stuck so we can help

-accidental double post-

Read the thread.
To quote myself: "This particular trick doesn't do anything to the back end services themselves, so its not like you magically get phone service just by doing this."
Also I have upgraded a couple of times since I posted about this crap and no longer use my Samsung (now using a Nexus 7 2013 which is way better)

[Q] Alternate use as a media device?

This may be a silly concept, but on some of these older phones, would it be possible to create a branch of CYGN development that simply removes the phone component of the rom? My idea is that all the functions would remain, but simply be disabled/hidden from the user. This could add some life to older phones whose cellular radios have malfunctioned, or people like me who simply like the CYGN interface, and would want to have a mp3/video player like this.
Additionally, the standard development would remain, so that if the phone needed to be re-purposed again, all you would need to do would be to flash the "+phone" rom.
Anyone care to tell me if/how bad an idea this is?
Thanks

Why can't those people who don't have a working phone part just ignore it and use it as a media device rather than flashing a whole new ROM just to get rid of it.

right, but supposedly there is a phone server that would suck some battery,
but it could be accomplished by putting the device in airplane mode.

airfluip1 said:
right, but supposedly there is a phone server that would suck some battery,
but it could be accomplished by putting the device in airplane mode.
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Well, being able to browse the web, or stream music would still be useful, I think.

tashubert said:
Well, being able to browse the web, or stream music would still be useful, I think.
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Then toggle WiFi back on.
Sent from my Nexus 4

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limeaide said:
Then toggle WiFi back on.
Sent from my Nexus 4
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Hell, is that all it takes? I thought "Airplane Mode" disabled all radios...
How destructive do you believe it would be to disable/uninstall the "phone" or "dialer" apps? Or is that not recommended under any circumstances?
Thanks again for your reply

Seems like a lot of work to compile a ROM and go through all the trouble, just don't use the dialer, and if you do, so what, no sim, no call, no money.

tashubert said:
Hell, is that all it takes? I thought "Airplane Mode" disabled all radios...
How destructive do you believe it would be to disable/uninstall the "phone" or "dialer" apps? Or is that not recommended under any circumstances?
Thanks again for your reply
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You can use apps like titanium backup to freeze the app and test yourself. I think it should work but there is a chance for a force close loop that can only be fixed by reinstalling the ROM.
Want to add I would leave the dialer just take it off the home screen because it is a law that even without service cell phones have to be able to dial emergency numbers. Without it if something happened and you needed to dial 911 it would be there.
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RCS chat features

Has anyone managed to get RCS chat features to work on the OnePlus 6 running 10.0.1 with AT&T? I have AT&T prepaid and I have ran every combination I have come across on the internet and still cannot get it to work.

Yes, it's working just fine for me though I'm on a regular plan not prepaid.

Doesn't work for me either.

Before android message beta and activity launcher update.
Rcs work on my op6 a10
after update rcs not work.

Mine started working without doing anything or updating anything last night.

SkippRunning said:
Mine started working without doing anything or updating anything last night.
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Are you use activity launcher ?

brmbjn said:
Are you use activity launcher ?
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I tried activity launcher, but it didn't work. Turning on airplane mode, then clearing storage of carrier services and messages, then turning airplane mode off and opening messages also can make it work. That's the only method that I tried that worked at all.

Still nothing after spending hours trying again with every combination possible.

dgunn said:
Still nothing after spending hours trying again with every combination possible.
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Are you sure prepaid includes access to RCS? AT&T can be weird about this stuff.

iElvis said:
Are you sure prepaid includes access to RCS? AT&T can be weird about this stuff.
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Unfortunately AT&T has linked me to an article that says you HAVE to be on a postpaid plan for RCS features to work. It also says you MUST have HD voice also but that's the sort of bs Google was trying to work around... ?*

Question Anyone having issues with VoWiFi NA version?

I just got the NA version of the ROG Phone 5 and sadly I cannot get VoWiFi working on TMobile. Sadly I'm in an area where I don't get the best signal and it's extremely important for this feature to work. Especially considering I spent 1k+ for this phone... Any help/guidance would be appreciated.

Have you enabled it in settings and then tried a reboot?
I've also noticed that it may not work until the SIM is installed BEFORE initial setup (or before a factory reset)

I confirmed with other people too. US version doesnt have Tmobile wifi. If it would, I would have bought one

twistedumbrella said:
Have you enabled it in settings and then tried a reboot?
I've also noticed that it may not work until the SIM is installed BEFORE initial setup (or before a factory reset)
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Yeah I tried that but didnt work so i manually enabled it using the phone dialer and after i toggle it on or off it will turn on but it turns off after reboot so need to root it so i can make the settings stick.

daviddem said:
I confirmed with other people too. US version doesnt have Tmobile wifi. If it would, I would have bought one
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It actually does work

My AT&T and T-Mobile SIMs (both Red Pocket MVNO) have VoLTE but not VoWiFi.

kva1992 said:
It actually does work
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So do you get wifi calling with US ROG phone on Tmobile?

daviddem said:
So do you get wifi calling with US ROG phone on Tmobile?
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Yup just have to manually enable it Everytime it boots up but if you root it you can set the props and it will be permanent. In the process of doing that atm.

kva1992 said:
Yup just have to manually enable it Everytime it boots up but if you root it you can set the props and it will be permanent. In the process of doing that atm.
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Thank you. I was debating between ROG or xperia 1iii. but if this works. Ill get ROG.
If you dont mind, can you please post the dialer code

daviddem said:
Thank you. I was debating between ROG or xperia 1iii. but if this works. Ill get ROG.
If you dont mind, can you please post the dialer code
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Sure here you go *#*#3642623344#*#*
You should be able to copy and paste if that doesn't work try pasting but delete the last * and add it manually. If that still doesn't work just manually type it in. But I tested it out a few times nd it works even turned on airplane mode and it works. Wi-fi calling was a deciding factor for me lol was about to return it until I found out I could get it to work properly.

daviddem said:
Thank you. I was debating between ROG or xperia 1iii. but if this works. Ill get ROG.
If you dont mind, can you please post the dialer code
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kva1992 said:
Sure here you go *#*#3642623344#*#*
You should be able to copy and paste if that doesn't work try pasting but delete the last * and add it manually. If that still doesn't work just manually type it in. But I tested it out a few times nd it works even turned on airplane mode and it works. Wi-fi calling was a deciding factor for me lol was about to return it until I found out I could get it to work properly.
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I'd like to add that after running the dialing code you have to enable wifi calling in the settings app.
Aswell as that, at least for me, I need to disable and re-enable it within settings after re-running the dial after reboot, for it to actually reconnect
Just to avoid any confusion.
This does work tho! Kva is right!

Trickster29 said:
I'd like to add that after running the dialing code you have to enable wifi calling in the settings app.
Aswell as that, at least for me, I need to disable and re-enable it within settings after re-running the dial after reboot, for it to actually reconnect
Just to avoid any confusion.
This does work tho! Kva is right!
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Thank you both. Ill order the phone and try it.

Trickster29 said:
I'd like to add that after running the dialing code you have to enable wifi calling in the settings app.
Aswell as that, at least for me, I need to disable and re-enable it within settings after re-running the dial after reboot, for it to actually reconnect
Just to avoid any confusion.
This does work tho! Kva is right!
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It's so stupid wish they enabled it by default would make all our lives easier

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It's so stupid wish they enabled it by default would make all our lives easier
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I agree, but idk if they need some authorization from T-Mobile to enable it by default and we're just the end user working around that.
Otherwise, I'm not really sure at all why the functionality is developed but not enabled by default.

Trickster29 said:
I agree, but idk if they need some authorization from T-Mobile to enable it by default and we're just the end user working around that.
Otherwise, I'm not really sure at all why the functionality is developed but not enabled by default.
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Yeah it's stupid I ended up talking to advanced tech support and the guy has never heard of ROG phone 5 and said I should return it cuz it seems like it's a hardware issue.... I'm like dude it's your system not giving me proper access's and authorizing my phone... He's like I guess you know more about phones than I do... The idiot even made me reset my phone to try and fix it even though I told him several times that has nothing to do with it.... I swear I have no idea how some of these morons get jobs as IT... At least have basic IT understanding....

They're not in IT. They're customer service reps. They read from a script.
Check out the movie The Internship. It's just like that.

twistedumbrella said:
They're not in IT. They're customer service reps. They read from a script.
Check out the movie The Internship. It's just like that.
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Well, when I'm talking to the advanced Technical team I am not talking to customer service reps... I talked to a customer service rep and they forwarded me to the IT team. Considering they are called advanced technical teams I would assume they are in IT. whereas the initial person I talked to was and clearly stated she was a customer service rep.

The only difference between the two people you spoke with is that one had access and authorization to suggest more "advanced" solutions. I'm not saying they shouldn't have better training, but legitimate IT professionals rarely work the call center as more than a summer job.
Anyway, the point was that they're a waste of time unless the issue is the SIM card or your plan. It's unfortunate.
Dial codes typically trigger an intent. If you can track down the intent, you can have it launch automatically on boot. Once that's taken care of, it shouldn't be too hard to automatically enable the setting. That is assuming you called because setting the prop didn't work.
Another alternative if you do have a property and can't write to system is setting it with a magisk module, since the system is read only on a firmware level.

twistedumbrella said:
The only difference between the two people you spoke with is that one had access and authorization to suggest more "advanced" solutions. I'm not saying they shouldn't have better training, but legitimate IT professionals rarely work the call center as more than a summer job.
Anyway, the point was that they're a waste of time unless the issue is the SIM card or your plan. It's unfortunate.
Dial codes typically trigger an intent. If you can track down the intent, you can have it launch automatically on boot. Once that's taken care of, it shouldn't be too hard to automatically enable the setting. That is assuming you called because setting the prop didn't work.
Another alternative if you do have a property and can't write to system is setting it with a magisk module, since the system is read only on a firmware level.
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How would I set that up using magisk module? One Issue I have noticed is the wifi calling turns itself off after a while. sometimes it works for several hours other times maybe a day but then turns off and I have to restart the phone and run the command again.

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