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I'm putting together a general guide for people to choose an Android phone because increasingly, there are so many choices. This guide will likely be more focused on North American customers at the moment, because that is where I come from and have the most knowledge. This is not going to be completely comprehensive (impossible), but it will be intended to be a good starting point.
I will be updating this thread as new phones emerge and removing older devices.
What to look for when buying a new phone:
Write down all of the features you want. Then take a look at the phones available and the carriers. Remember that specs are not everything (ex: higher megapixel does not mean better camera and clockspeed does not mean faster CPU). Look at how good a carrier is, their coverage, their price, and the customer service. Am I roaming? What are the terms of the contract?
When choosing a phone, remember that each manufacturer will have their flaws:
- HTC: Expensive phones (when buying unlocked), poor battery life, and poor cameras. On the plus side, HTC has the best upgrade record of the Android makers, generally good build quality, and easy to mod (most amount of development at XDA as well), although not always prompt at releasing source code. They use mainly Qualcomm Snapdragon CPUs with Adreno graphics. They are known for their distinct "Sense" UI.
- Samsung: Samsung phones have worse build quality than HTC (they seem to be very fond of soft-touch glossy plastic that makes their phones, even their flagships feel cheap) and they have a bad rep for their slow updates. Samsung generally will have some of the best displays (that is their speciality, although their SuperAMOLED is over saturated), good specs overall (they are a massively integrated company and make most of the parts in their phones themselves). They are also prompt in releasing source code. Cameras are also decent on Samsung phones. They use a variety of different CPUs.
- Motorola: Motorola has good update speed on the American phones, but in the rest of the world, updates are poor. One alarming recent trend is their locked bootloaders, which make it hard to load custom ROMs. They have generally good audio and call quality, but cameras are average. One noteworthy thing is the colour accuracy on their screens is excellent. They use mainly TI's OMAP series of CPUs, although an Nvidia Tegra 2 phone is expected.
- LG: LG has had tough times recently, but seems to be turning around. I have not had a lot of experience with their handsets, but it seems that the build quality is decent, judging by their Optimus series. I look forward to seeing whatever variant of the Optimus 2X ends up in North America.
The next step would be to consider your budget. Low end phones are generally less than $250 USD/about 200 Euros (things are more pricey in Europe), midrange would make up about $250 - $400 USD (200 Euros to maybe 350 Euros), and anything greater than $400 would be considered high end. Higher end phones generally have better build quality, resolution, processors, cameras, and are faster at getting updates, not to mention features that low end phones often skimp on.
Globally: Worldwide, phones will vary significantly based on carrier, coverage, and choice. High end phones tend to come out uniquely for North America and the rest of the world. There are going to be way too many choices to mention here, but here are the ones that stand out. In most cases, I'd recommend getting a phone at least 480x320, becuase that is the resolution that Android was intended for.
- Samsung Galaxy S: Super AMOLED screen, it's own unique variant of the buttons, front facing camera, 5 MP 720p camera, and SuperAMOLED screen. This phone is hampered by no LED flash and defective GPS units.
- Samsung Galaxy Apollo: Mid-range Android phone (need more details)
- Samsung Galaxy Europa: Need details, but looks like low-end phone
- HTC Desire HD: Essentially an Android GSM variant of the HTC HD2 and the HTC Evo. It has a large 4.3" screen, a camera with dual LED flash, standard 4 button Android configuration, but no front facing camera. It's hampered by the poor battery life.
- HTC Desire Z: A smaller variant of the Desire HD with a lower end processor, keyboard, and a smaller screen. I'm not comfortable with the durability of the hinge, but otherwise, an excellent phone.
- HTC Legend: Successor to the HTC Hero, this is phone is a midrange phone and feels pretty snappy. My choice for a midrange phone.
- HTC Wildfire: Lower-end phone (320 x 240), small screen, and light
- Sony Ericsson X10: Currently Sony's flagship. Hampered by Sony's slow updates, and no multitouch. Low storage. On the upside, it has a pretty good camera and a high-res screen.
- Sony Ericsson X8: Pretty decent mid-range phone. Comparable to the HTC Legend in specs, but only has Android 2.1.
- Sony Ericsson X10 Mini: Somewhere in between the X10 and the X8. It's similar to the X8 in most cases and feels like a pretty good phone overall.
- LG Optimus: Well priced mid-range handset. Build quality is pretty good and comparable to the X8 and the HTC Hero.
- Motorola Milestone 2: High end handset, but Motorola's seems to be slower with their international updates
- Motorola Defy: Durable handset, mid-range specs, but stuck on Android 2.1
There are many, many cheap phones coming in from China and India that are too numerous to mention here. I'd recommend looking at reviews and examining what you think is reliable based off of your best judgment. Some nations also have their own phones that cannot be bought elsewhere, such as the Meizu M9 and Sharp's IS03.
The North American Market:
North America uses what is known as a subsidy model. The carriers buy the phones from the manufacturers, brand them (often with their own bloatware), and in the case of GSM carriers, apply a SIM lock. I recommend that if you live in North America, that you only buy a high end phone if you are going on contract. The cost of a high end phone (an extra $150-$250 + tax) is not significant relative to the life of the contract. I suppose that if you are buying lower end phones, you could consider something less potent.
LG Optimus is my recommendation for a low-end phone. An alternative are the low-end HTC devices, most notable the HTC Wildfire and HTC Aria. I anticipate that as Android gains more traction here, that we'll begin to see low end, prepaid Android phones within the $100 mark.
Canada (my home country):
The Canadian market is dominated by 3 carriers (Bell, Telus - which shares infrastructure with Bell, and Rogers, the largest). Three drawbacks that we Canucks face is the poor choice of smartphones compared to the US, the expensive data plans, and the 3 year contracts. On the upside, buying a phone unlocked is cheaper than Europe (all electronics are generally cheaper than Europe, but cheaper still than in the US). They all use GSM and HSPA+ at this point, with their phones unlockable and interchangeable.:
Bell:
- Samsung Galaxy S (dubbed "Vibrant", although it is an i9000). Be careful about upgrading to Froyo, bricked devices have been reported.
- Desire Z (your choice if you want a keyboarded phone - luckily, it can be bought and unlocked. At $500 CAD, it isn't a bad deal either)
Telus:
- Samsung Fascinate (GSM version of the Verizon phone)
- HTC Desire (Nexus One Clone)
- It is expected that the HTC Desire HD will come onto Telus in H1 2011
Rogers (best coverage of the three carriers, but poorest Android support):
- Samsung Captivate (i896 - buy this instead of the i897 if you're going off contract; it doesn't seem to have the lag or GPS problems, plus no bloatware)
- Acer Liquid E (cheaper alternative)
I recommend against buying the Dell Streak (poor build quality overall) and the X10 (poor updates). For Rogers particularly, every year, there is a 6gb data promotion that I recommend holding off and waiting specifically for.
United States:
Dominated by 4 carriers, plus a host of smaller CDMA carriers.
Verizon: Largest carrier, CDMA; going to LTE. They seem to have lots of Motorola phones.
- Motorola Droid X (large screen, no keyboard)
- Motorola Droid 2 Global (keyboard, good for world travel as it has a SIM slot, although the GSM SIM card doesn't work on AT&T)
- Motorola Droid Pro (like a Blackberry sized version of the Droid 2)
- Samsung Fascinate (Galaxy S with LED flash, but less storage, and standard Android key layout); Bing
- Samsung Continuum (smaller Galaxy S with a "ticker on bottom")
- HTC Droid Incredible (older phone now, still pretty good device that appears to be derived from Nexus One)
AT&T: GSM carrier; second largest in North America. Be advised that AT&T locks down their phones, allowing no apps from unknown sources. A custom ROM is recommended.
- Samsung Captivate: Variant of Galaxy S; no front facing camera, standard Android button layout
I mentioned that I would only recommend high-end phones, because for the duration of a contract, the extra initial price is not significant. I do not recommend choosing the Sony X10 over the Captivate. AT&T does have a host of lower end phones, such as the HTC Aria and Motorola Backflip.
Sprint: CDMA carrier; currently rolling out WiMAX in many cities (be aware that WiMAX phones carry and extra $10/month charge):
- Samsung Epic 4G (Galaxy S phone with keyboard and standard Android button configuration. WiMAX. Also has LED flash, but less storage. Arguably the best of the Galaxy S variants).
- HTC EVO (first WiMAX design): Qualcomm Snapdragon 1 GHz, 4.3" LCD screen, front facing camera.
Note that there is a significant drop in battery life with WiMAX enabled and that the high frequency of WiMAX can make it hard to get a reliable signal in some buildings and underground. Not all cities have WiMAX yet either.
Recall what I said about getting a high-end phone in North America.
T-Mobile: T-Mobile is also a GSM carrier, using mainly AWS banded phones. They were the first Android supporter.
- Samsung Vibrant (not be confused with the Canadian Bell version, this is a variant of the Galaxy S with the standard Android button configuration)
- Nexus S (I'd recommend in most cases that you get this instead of the Vibrant between the two due to fast upgrades, NFC, and gyroscope. On the downside, the concave screen is more fragile, there is no microSD, and no HSPA+).
- HTC MyTouch 4G (latest version of MyTouch, comes with a variant of HTC Sense, and a trackpad)
- HTC G2 (basically a variant of the Desire Z intended for the T-Mobile bands; unique to this variant is that it is close to stock Android)
- HTC Nexus One (aging now, and not available for sale, but an worthy mention as this is the phone that made this generation of phones happen)
Feedback and constructive criticism are always welcome.
sorry for bump, but what would you say is the best in the realms of prepaid-available phones?
note: i just got the optimus V from virgin mobile for cheap and have been playing with it, and am slightly dissapointed at it's quality, but impressed by virgin mobile's actual network service.
ICS phones?
Are there any ICS phones, I am fed up with hw buttons.
When it comes to phones use the tattoo theory. A good one ain't cheap, and a cheap one ain't good. I run on prepaid networks and after dealing with the craptastic phones now I just by any one I want that is GSM based and be happy.
The galaxy line has it burning am waiting till the quad core HTC is released. Hardware should start to slow down after that.
LukeQr said:
Are there any ICS phones, I am fed up with hw buttons.
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Maybe you can try more.
The successor to the One S has (probably) been announced.
It is called the Desire 600. It has:
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• A 4.5in 540x960 SLCD2 display
• A 1.2Ghz quad-core Snapdragon 200 processor
• An Adreno 203 GPU
• 1GB RAM
• 8GB storage (wut?)
• A microSD slot (ah)
• An 8MP camera with f/2.0 lens
• A 1.6MP front camera
• NFC
• Dual-SIM capability
• And [B]NO[/B] LTE compatibility.
It comes in two colour combinations, silver with a black screen and red trim, or completely black. The silver one looks disgusting.
Link to picture - original image is waaaaaaaaay too big to fit on this page.
It comes shipped with 4.1.2 and Sense 5. BoomSound is included, no word on Zoe yet (so probably not included).
It's on pre-order in Russia at the moment for 15,990 ruble (GB £340, US $509).
HTC say:
The new HTC Desire 600 dual sim will be available with mobile operators and major retailers in a number of markets from early June 2013. For more information visit www.htc.com
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Sources etc:
HTC's official website
TechRadar UK
TeenDroid
International Business Times
GSMArena
i dont think that this phone can be Successor of One S. if a 720p display was included then it was a Successor. i think is successor of desire x..
My thinking was that:
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• One X/XL/X+ has 4.7in display, and so does the One (M7)
• Desire 600 has 4.5in display
• One S has 4.3in display
• Desire X has 4.0in display
So it would be logical to say that this phone is an upgrade to ours. The only problem with out screen wasn't the resolution, it was the crappy PenTile RGBG layout that HTC chose for it. By making it SLCD2, that should improve quality (but makes colours far less vivid). Also, it has NFC, which our phone doesn't have. It has a microSD card slot, which our phone doesn't have. And it has 2 more cores, which our phone doesn't have.
HTC have only confirmed it for Asia and Africa, no European countries (apart from Ukraine) and no American countries, which could suggest that they will cater to our higher standards and bring out a phone with HD screen with AMOLED (hopefully), Zoe and that UltraPixel camera.
Yayyy we can port Sense 5 from this device and although the hardware will be difficult, no resizing needed
The "true" successor" to the one S will be the one mini/M4 (2GB RAM, highly clocked krait, ultrapixel camera, the zero gap metal body construction, boomsound, 720P res. [will most likely be SLCD 2] etc.), this is a successor to the desire X, it is considered part of the budget/mid range series of htc phones.
qHD res. (SLCD 2) with that screen size won't be that great anyway, only be marginally better than our one S, main difference being text
Also, just because it has "more cores", doesn't mean it will be better, afaik, that chipset is based on 45nm, our dual core krait is based on 28nm and looking at the rest of the specs, it doesn't look like it will be as good of a performer when it comes to performance (especially in the GPU department), power efficiency and it will most likely produce more heat.
A really good dual core chipset with 2GB RAM is much better than a budget quad core chipset with 1GB RAM.
The only part of this phone that can be consider a true upgrade (so far) are the speakers, NFC, SD slot (but 8GB of internal storage is very low, only 6GB or so will be usable and these days games etc. are getting big and you can't move stuff to the SD card any more)
That phone more likely is a successor to the Desire series on it's own.
Either way, the big hitter for me now is NFC. If that isn't included by HTC, I am moving elsewhere. Loyalty can only get you so far if they don't listen to the loyal end user. Like a bloody 16 million colour notification LED, there's 518,400 of them on our screen, would it really hurt to add in just one more? And leaving NFC out of this phone was just plain stupid anyway.
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These specs are of a low-end device, It's not a 'successor' to the One S in any means, dual SIM suggests it's targeted at developing countries, which is silly considering HTC has been moving away from them.
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If you want to 'upgrade' to this phone it's fine but it's specs are way worse than what is packaged into our One S, don't get illuded, Snapdragon 200 is Cortex-A5, it's really power efficient but it's the worst you can get of this generation.
I like that, the grey-red combination IMHO is really cool...
Dual-SIM is a really useful feature in the "first world" though, I'd love a flagship phone with that.
HTC are thinking in the long-term by targeting developing countries. When they flourish, the more loyal customers, the better. It's just a question as to if HTC will survive that long.
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Dual-SIM is a really useful feature in the "first world" though, I'd love a flagship phone with that.
HTC are thinking in the long-term by targeting developing countries. When they flourish, the more loyal customers, the better. It's just a question as to if HTC will survive that long.
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In my opinion they will not survive if they work same way as now
Their dual SIM have problems
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I think that the successor of our phone will be the HTC one mini... The desire will be the successor to the "desire" series, while the new one mini will be targeted for the one series users who just don't want a 4,5'+ screen.
My opinion
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This is not a successor to the One series. Its for the Desire series. So in a way its a successor to the Desire X and SV.
In the one series is the One Mini.
What an interesting device. I'll keep my one s thank you htc
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I'll probably convert to the childish side, sadly. My Mum got an S III a few days ago and as much as it pains me to say it, it is quite good. It's just the UI that looks awful, while Sense tries to look somewhat professional, TouchWiz looks like Samsung's target audience is everyone below the age of thirteen. All the features added are really good though, and Samsung give a long long support length. The S II is getting 4.2.2 and our phone might not. The S IV will probably make it to 6.0.
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I'll probably convert to the childish side, sadly. My Mum got an S III a few days ago and as much as it pains me to say it, it is quite good. It's just the UI that looks awful, while Sense tries to look somewhat professional, TouchWiz looks like Samsung's target audience is everyone below the age of thirteen. All the features added are really good though, and Samsung give a long long support length. The S II is getting 4.2.2 and our phone might not. The S IV will probably make it to 6.0.
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Yes sammy supports long
Reason sense is deeply mix in os & complete
touch viz is just android theme I suppose touch wiz as stock android + change some icons some layout change
think of sammy's gallery, dialer, calendar, clock ......
so when a new android comes they have to change some icons & roll out new OTA update
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Honestly I doubt that will be the successor, as it's not better on all aspects (it looks like).. Guess we'll find out soon enough..
Tendency88 said:
Honestly I doubt that will be the successor, as it's not better on all aspects (it looks like).. Guess we'll find out soon enough..
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HTC won't upgrade every aspect of it. They always leave one feature out that turns it from a brilliant phone to an "imagine what it could have been" phone.
COOL
kylepont said:
The successor to the One S has (probably) been announced.
It is called the Desire 600. It has:
Code:
• A 4.5in 540x960 SLCD2 display
• A 1.2Ghz quad-core Snapdragon 200 processor
• An Adreno 203 GPU
• 1GB RAM
• 8GB storage (wut?)
• A microSD slot (ah)
• An 8MP camera with f/2.0 lens
• A 1.6MP front camera
• NFC
• Dual-SIM capability
• And [B]NO[/B] LTE compatibility.
love my HTC ONE S can't afford the highest band phones so like the sound of this
It comes in two colour combinations, silver with a black screen and red trim, or completely black. The silver one looks disgusting.
Link to picture - original image is waaaaaaaaay too big to fit on this page.
It comes shipped with 4.1.2 and Sense 5. BoomSound is included, no word on Zoe yet (so probably not included).
It's on pre-order in Russia at the moment for 15,990 ruble (GB £340, US $509).
HTC say:
Sources etc:
HTC's official website
TechRadar UK
TeenDroid
International Business Times
GSMArena
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love my HTC ONE S can't afford the highest band phones so like the sound of this
So initially I was really excited about the new 1+2, but since its launch I am a bit disappointed because of some crucial compromises that come with buying this phone. And under 24 hrs, moto launched its new Moto X style which just make me not like the 1+2 even more. But I am looking to buy one of these two phone so I logically comparing them to make a decision. With the current info we have moto X seem much better in many departments -
Design, Battery (Fast charge vs 1+2 charging in 3:20 hrs), wireless charging, more Premium feel according to many tech sites, 2k screen, the new Sony 21MP sensor.
But there are also some definite areas where 1+2 seems better but I wanna know 'How' much better, would like to know from someone who has used these processors or knows in detail about these RAMs and USB ports :-
808 vs 810, so the new moto X has the 808 while the 1+2 has 810, both are very mediocre processors from Qualcomm's standards, but it is what it is, so I wanna know exactly how much better 810 is than 808 in real life usage, will i be able to do all kinds of the most power consuming tasks for the next 2-3 years ?
3Gb Lpddr3 vs 4gb Lpddr4, here I am not sure if the new moto X has LPDDR4 or lpddr3 ram and if its 3 then how much difference will it have seeing as its also 3gb vs 4gb, in real life usage, how much difference is that ?
The USB - C port on the 1+2, I was really excited about this one before launch but after its launch I read 2-3 sites mentioning that it's 2.0 and not 3.1( don't know what that exactly that means), and hence it won't be much faster than a regular USB cable and u can't use it as a replacement for HDMI cable.
Edit - P.S. - Also, the moto X has NFC and much better speakers and better customer service.
Personal opinion for everything within; don't quote me as gospel. Have a google around yourself and make your own decisions based on that.
SD808 vs SD810; the SD808 is used in the LG G4 whilst the HTC One M9 uses the SD810 so you should be able to get a basic idea from this comparison. As far as I know about the LG G4, the SD808 performs really well and doesn't leave you wanting for nothing. I personally don't own a G4 so a G4 owner and M9 owner could answer this better. Have a look online and see what people are saying. Linus Tech Tips have video reviews for both phones so that may also be some help for you.
3gb vs 4gb ram; I don't think this is really going to affect mobile users. If we take a look at apple, the ipad air has 1gb ram and performs really well. Same with the iphone 6 and I don't know anyone who owns one that complains about it. Granted, iOS and android are two different beasts - but if 1gb is fine over there, 3gb should be more than sufficient for us.
USB Type-C; even though native support for USB Type-C is coming around in Android M, I don't think the adoption for it will be very quick. I know apple has it on their new macbook air (I believe) - but widespread adoption will be some time from now. Micro-USB is still going to be around for a while imo and won't be an issue for the Moto X.
Again, personal opinion. I'd go for the Moto X based on the fact that Motorola have a good name behind them, build good quality phones that last and have a decent customer service track record, whereas if you look on the oneplus forums (I'd say take it with a pinch of salt but you may need a barrel of salt) you'll find quite a lot of complaints regarding Oneplus' customer service. Granted, they are quite a young company and these issues may not be around for much longer as they work out the kinks in their processes but it's something to consider as every so often, there will be a faulty phone and it may just be your bad luck in getting the bad egg.
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Personal opinion for everything within; don't quote me as gospel. Have a google around yourself and make your own decisions based on that.
SD808 vs SD810; the SD808 is used in the LG G4 whilst the HTC One M9 uses the SD810 so you should be able to get a basic idea from this comparison. As far as I know about the LG G4, the SD808 performs really well and doesn't leave you wanting for nothing. I personally don't own a G4 so a G4 owner and M9 owner could answer this better. Have a look online and see what people are saying. Linus Tech Tips have video reviews for both phones so that may also be some help for you.
3gb vs 4gb ram; I don't think this is really going to affect mobile users. If we take a look at apple, the ipad air has 1gb ram and performs really well. Same with the iphone 6 and I don't know anyone who owns one that complains about it. Granted, iOS and android are two different beasts - but if 1gb is fine over there, 3gb should be more than sufficient for us.
USB Type-C; even though native support for USB Type-C is coming around in Android M, I don't think the adoption for it will be very quick. I know apple has it on their new macbook air (I believe) - but widespread adoption will be some time from now. Micro-USB is still going to be around for a while imo and won't be an issue for the Moto X.
Again, personal opinion. I'd go for the Moto X based on the fact that Motorola have a good name behind them, build good quality phones that last and have a decent customer service track record, whereas if you look on the oneplus forums (I'd say take it with a pinch of salt but you may need a barrel of salt) you'll find quite a lot of complaints regarding Oneplus' customer service. Granted, they are quite a young company and these issues may not be around for much longer as they work out the kinks in their processes but it's something to consider as every so often, there will be a faulty phone and it may just be your bad luck in getting the bad egg.
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Yeah, inclining towards the X style for now. Will wait for both's reviews now. Also, the 1+2 is priced at 25,000 (389$) in my country, and the new moto X 16gb version is priced at 399$, so that'll probably convert to 26,000 + leather/wood back ones are 2,000 extra so I guess the 64gb one will be priced around 35k, which is 40% higher price than 1+2. This one is a real doozy, both these phones at the end of the day are equal.
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bhu1 said:
Yeah, inclining towards the X style for now. Will wait for both's reviews now. Also, the 1+2 is priced at 25,000 (389$) in my country, and the new moto X 16gb version is priced at 399$, so that'll probably convert to 26,000 + leather/wood back ones are 2,000 extra so I guess the 64gb one will be priced around 35k, which is 40% higher price than 1+2. This one is a real doozy, both these phones at the end of the day are equal.
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One thing that may sway you towards the OP2 is that apparently (read this in a news article - take it with a barrel of salt again!) OP is concentrating heavily on selling around a million units in India, so they may be giving better support whereas Motorola may not be as prevalent in terms of support. Can't say for certain - not from and never been to India - but speaking from my experiences and knowledge of being in Pakistan for quite a while.
Also, if specs don't bother you too much, it may be an idea to look heavily at the moto x play, simply because of the huge battery whilst still being a really powerful phone.
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One thing that may sway you towards the OP2 is that apparently (read this in a news article - take it with a barrel of salt again!) OP is concentrating heavily on selling around a million units in India, so they may be giving better support whereas Motorola may not be as prevalent in terms of support. Can't say for certain - not from and never been to India - but speaking from my experiences and knowledge of being in Pakistan for quite a while.
Also, if specs don't bother you too much, it may be an idea to look heavily at the moto x play, simply because of the huge battery whilst still being a really powerful phone.
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Nah, OnePlus can't compete with moto's customer service. Even if they can, then also, not a big deal, customer service, it just needs to be good, I don't need it to be great. And no moto play for me, I decided that I'll buy a flagship, so I'll buy a flagship.
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iOS and Android system have much differences, that's why 1gb RAM feels so different between Android and iOS..
I've found complete explanation of it but forgot the source *sorry*
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Come on be serious...what comparison is this. Compare 1+1 with 1+2 or 1+2 with my 4 years old htc sensation
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bhu1 said:
So initially I was really excited about the new 1+2, but since its launch I am a bit disappointed because of some crucial compromises that come with buying this phone. And under 24 hrs, moto launched its new Moto X style which just make me not like the 1+2 even more. But I am looking to buy one of these two phone so I logically comparing them to make a decision. With the current info we have moto X seem much better in many departments -
Design, Battery (Fast charge vs 1+2 charging in 3:20 hrs), wireless charging, more Premium feel according to many tech sites, 2k screen, the new Sony 21MP sensor.
But there are also some definite areas where 1+2 seems better but I wanna know 'How' much better, would like to know from someone who has used these processors or knows in detail about these RAMs and USB ports :-
808 vs 810, so the new moto X has the 808 while the 1+2 has 810, both are very mediocre processors from Qualcomm's standards, but it is what it is, so I wanna know exactly how much better 810 is than 808 in real life usage, will i be able to do all kinds of the most power consuming tasks for the next 2-3 years ?
3Gb Lpddr3 vs 4gb Lpddr4, here I am not sure if the new moto X has LPDDR4 or lpddr3 ram and if its 3 then how much difference will it have seeing as its also 3gb vs 4gb, in real life usage, how much difference is that ?
The USB - C port on the 1+2, I was really excited about this one before launch but after its launch I read 2-3 sites mentioning that it's 2.0 and not 3.1( don't know what that exactly that means), and hence it won't be much faster than a regular USB cable and u can't use it as a replacement for HDMI cable.
Edit - P.S. - Also, the moto X has NFC and much better speakers and better customer service.
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Depending on how you use your phone and how each phone handles battery life, the rate of charging might not be a factor to consider. If you burn through battery (and/or the phone itself helps) and can't get a days worth then fast charging should be important. If you don't use your phone much, turn radios off, etc. and charge your phone when you are asleep then either method of charging will do. Neither phone has wireless charging so you'd have to look elsewhere to get it. Feel is totally subjective and ONLY important for your tastes/wants. The screen is a contentious issue as some don't see a difference between 2k and 1080p, think the increase is worth the battery hit, or other reasons specific to the screens compared. If DxO is to be believed then the rear sensor in the Style is something to be reckoned with.
In real life usage, the 808 or 810 should be close to each other. The 808 is only "missing" two "Big" A57 cores when compared to the 810. The real difference is in benchmarks where having the "missing" cores will show better scores. With an almost stock Android interface the Style should show no feeling that "it needs more." I have no experience with OnePlus (or Moto and their OS optimizations) phones to speak on how Oxygen OS behaves. Since both phones aren't out to buy and be reviewed, any talk beforehand is just speculation. Wait for reviews from people you trust for an opinion or get a hand-on yourself on the UX "feel."
The amount of RAM you "need" or "should have" is debatable. If you play a lot of games and switch between heavy RAM-usage apps (or a lot of them) frequently, more RAM is beneficial. The type of RAM is cut-and-dry. LPDDR4 is simply better than LPDDR3. AS A STANDARD LPDDR4 operates at faster speeds AND uses less power than LPDDR3. Whether OnePlus has taken full advantage of the benefits has not been disclosed and no one has a device to find out the speed their RAM runs at for a definite conclusion.
USB Type-C is the "cable to end cables" when properly implemented. Full stop. Type-C was created with USB 3.1 and ALL of its benefits come with 3.1 AND software that enables those features. For the actual cable, Type-C brings a reversible plug (like Lightning) so there isn't a correct way you can plug the cable in. USB 2.0 (most likely in the Style too) will max at around 20 MB/s when transferring files to your computer or another device, and will be slower for smaller files. USB 3.0 and 3.1 will transfer at MUCH faster speeds with larger files. You can learn more about 3.1 and Type-C here and with a quick search. Other Type-C features aren't worth discussing as neither phone can take advantage of them.
Contact-less payments are supposed to finally take-off with the launch of Android (and Samsung) Pay to give that "extra push" to retailers that this is a feature that most would take advantage of when consumers can. Honestly, Apple Pay sowed the seed for contact-less payments. If contact-less payments is something you can see yourself doing then the OnePlus2 will not allow you to do so. Speaker quality or stereo speakers is a nice feature to have and should be considered if you play any media over the speakers. I have no comment with eithers' Costumer Support reputation.
For me, the decision between the OnePlus2 and Style is a no brainer. The OnePlus2 makes too many concessions against OnePlus' OWN BELIEFS and against the Style to make this a hard decision. Which is why I'll be replacing my G2 with the Style at some point this year, unless the new Nexus phone(s) are compelling enough
Think I may finally jump on a new phone, the Moto X Play or whatever it's being called for Verizon. That's a bit confusing. But Moto's radios are the best, a big factor, plus they finally went back to SD cards. I keep hearing the screen will not be tops due to it not being Amoled. Guess I'll have to check it out first before jumping. Also want it rooted, so I'm not going to be the one to jump first when it's sold so I can find out if it'll be rooted. But I'm definitely leaning towards that. It's either this or probably going to find a Note 4 developers addition and go that route...hard choices....
Moto x pure edition, not play
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Which is why I'll be replacing my G2 with the Style at some point this year, unless the new Nexus phone(s) are compelling enough
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Nexus line of phones will never provide microSD card slot (google wants you to use its cloud!), and the 64GB version will make you pay 100$ more than the basic 16GB model. The best 64GB cards are under 30$ right now. So, I essentially get 80GB of storage with Style for 70$ less. Give me Style any day over Nexus or even OP2 (which gives 64GB for 389).
More than that though, its the camera and front facing stereo speakers that excite me about Style. We will see when it comes out.
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So initially I was really excited about the new 1+2, but since its launch I am a bit disappointed because of some crucial compromises that come with buying this phone. And under 24 hrs, moto launched its new Moto X style which just make me not like the 1+2 even more. But I am looking to buy one of these two phone so I logically comparing them to make a decision. With the current info we have moto X seem much better in many departments -
Design, Battery (Fast charge vs 1+2 charging in 3:20 hrs), wireless charging, more Premium feel according to many tech sites, 2k screen, the new Sony 21MP sensor.
But there are also some definite areas where 1+2 seems better but I wanna know 'How' much better, would like to know from someone who has used these processors or knows in detail about these RAMs and USB ports :-
808 vs 810, so the new moto X has the 808 while the 1+2 has 810, both are very mediocre processors from Qualcomm's standards, but it is what it is, so I wanna know exactly how much better 810 is than 808 in real life usage, will i be able to do all kinds of the most power consuming tasks for the next 2-3 years ?
3Gb Lpddr3 vs 4gb Lpddr4, here I am not sure if the new moto X has LPDDR4 or lpddr3 ram and if its 3 then how much difference will it have seeing as its also 3gb vs 4gb, in real life usage, how much difference is that ?
The USB - C port on the 1+2, I was really excited about this one before launch but after its launch I read 2-3 sites mentioning that it's 2.0 and not 3.1( don't know what that exactly that means), and hence it won't be much faster than a regular USB cable and u can't use it as a replacement for HDMI cable.
Edit - P.S. - Also, the moto X has NFC and much better speakers and better customer service.
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same thing happened to me
I'm dropping the two and will pick the moto x pure because it has the following that the two refused to add:
microsd slot
rapid charge
21 mp camera
front facing stereo speakers
invite-less purchase
but then that might change when the moto x pure is released
Id give the nod to the moto for several reasons the 3 big ones being.
ext sd card support, this is huge
Slightly larger screen
Moto customer support. If you read anything about OPO one thing is for sure in that their support is terrible.
Thats 3 reasons enough for me.:thumbup:
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I was inclined towards the one plus two before launch. Had really big expectations. But Moto X Style has upped the stakes. The only problem is availability and pricing. In India the customer service of Motorola is good. Only if Motorola announces the availability and pricing
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At this point I'd say moto x is my pick, one plus invite system is a turn off and is already starting to make me not want to get the device.
I still don't get their reasoning for leaving out NFC from the OP2. They claim it wasn't widely used and it added cost, yet they decided to add a fingerprint sensor...
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At this point I'd say moto x is my pick, one plus invite system is a turn off and is already starting to make me not want to get the device.
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And theres an artlicle online where someone says he cheated the invite reservation system haha. But yeah its all a joke tbh as you spam people to go up the list.
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Think I may finally jump on a new phone, the Moto X Play or whatever it's being called for Verizon. That's a bit confusing. But Moto's radios are the best, a big factor, plus they finally went back to SD cards. I keep hearing the screen will not be tops due to it not being Amoled. Guess I'll have to check it out first before jumping. Also want it rooted, so I'm not going to be the one to jump first when it's sold so I can find out if it'll be rooted. But I'm definitely leaning towards that. It's either this or probably going to find a Note 4 developers addition and go that route...hard choices....
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I tried a Samsung Note 3 and I lost 7% of my calls according to Verizon. I switched to a Motorola n6 six months ago and haven't lost a call since. My dBm ranges from 100 to 121 (right now it 114). Motorola is the only one that can hold on to a phone call where I live. So, I will only buy Motorola phones from now on.
I had the OPO for about a year and finally was able to return it.
Too many touch issues and since getting Lollipop I've had nothing but battery issues. I tried many roms however I couldn't stand it.
I tried the Moto X 2nd gen for 2 days and fell in love.
Currently i'm testing out the Nexus 6 to see if I can handle the screen size, so far it's good however I'd like it to be a little smaller so I think the new Moto X might be fine.
I wish they went with a 5.5 and non QHD or at least went with a bigger battery.
I'm hoping the new Moto X's camera will be better than the Nexus 6
If I was rich I would get both. But the biggest advantage of the oneplus2 will likely be battery life. I have a feeling that the oneplus2 will be easier to hold. I like the fact that you can program the capacitive buttons on either side of the home button. But overall the moto x style would get my hard earned money. Software and screen quality/size give it the leg up on the oneplus2 for me.
Hello,
I recently bought a Moto X Play, and I'm playing indeed, playing with the idea of returning it and buying a Droid Turbo on eBay.
Currently, the Turbo can be bought for around 450 cad, same as the X Play (except it's used, but it's quite easy to find Turbo in good condition considering it's made to be tough!).
It also has a humongous battery. The screen is reportedly around the same width but doesn't go as far up, so it's easier to handle. No need to mention the processor is also better, same goes for the screen, and the bigger battery makes up for the increased consumption. Moreover, the Droid has all the features of the "usual" Moto X: the screen is a Super AMOLED, unlike the X Play IPS screen; there's a gyroscope and IR sensors so you get the Moto Actions, you're VR ready, Photospheres ready... unlike the X Play. Plus I just noticed it had Glonass (which the X Play doesn't have), which can improve location tracking especially in northern latitudes (#Canada).
Oh, and it has fast charging AND wireless charging. Yayz.
The only reasons to buy a X Play over a Turbo in Canada (where you don't care about Verizon CDMA lock) seem to be:
-The Camera (even if it's not as bad as the two first Moto X, the Turbo lags behind)
-Warranty (since the X Play is bought new, but even then you can get the Moto Warranty by registering your Droid I guess, depending on how long it has been owned)
-FM Radio (yeaaaah. Personnally I use bluetooth headphones, so I can't even use it)
-Swappable back plates (impossible to buy in Canada unless you order from Aliexpress, from what I understood)
-You don't like capacitive buttons (I realized it had the advantage of freeing screen space, so it really depends on your preferences)
-You prefer big screens.
Annnnd that's about it I guess?
So in short, my question is: have I forgotten something? Is there a dealbreaker about the Turbo? etc.
PS: Sources:
http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_droid_turbo-6727.php
http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_moto_x_play-7454.php
"Duh."
Turbo is less likely to be updated past this year?
Considering the price range and specs, I don't think it'll be forgotten by Motorola... Maybe slower updates indeed (Lollipop took more time than the X 2013 apparently).
Depending on the model, the Moto Maxx has an unlockable bootloader and the xda community seems quite active. The Verizon model is BL locked, but Sunshine is reportedly working on it to unlock it, so OTA updates aren't really that necessary IMO.
I heard from an App developer (Carlos Sanchez with the App, "Smartphone Comparison" on Google Play Store) that the specs for the new Moto X Style 2016 are likely to include the following: CPU- Dual-core 2GHz Kryo + Dual-core 1.6 GHz Kryo; GPU- Adreno 530; RAM- 4GB; Internal Memory- 32GB; Card Slot; Battery- 2600 mAh; Display- Amoled HD; Display size- 5.5"; Resolution (display)- 1140 x 2560 pxs (534 ppi);Display glass- Gorilla Glass 4; Camera- 13 MP laser autofocus w/ LED Flash rear + 8 MP front; Connectivity- Bluetooth and Wi-Fi; NFC- Yes; GPS-Yes; FM Radio- No; Price- Not Yet Known. SPECS unconfirmed!
Smaller battery - smart move.... NOT!
2600 battery！
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I've actually been going nuts this entire week looking for any positive signs of an upcoming Moto X Pure/Style 2016 rumor that looks legit and have yet to find anything.
There is *something* coming soon, but nothing substantiated to be on the "higher end" level that the Pure/Style were when they dropped.
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I've actually been going nuts this entire week looking for any positive signs of an upcoming Moto X Pure/Style 2016 rumor that looks legit and have yet to find anything.
There is *something* coming soon, but nothing substantiated to be on the "higher end" level that the Pure/Style were when they dropped.
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So, I'm disappointed as it doesn't seem any more higher mid-rangers are due this year, and as you said no proof exists of an X line in the next few months. I/we could be incorrect.
My previous thread was substantiated b/c it was based on an article from Pocketnow saying the X line wasn't replaced by the Z line, just making room for a flagship level device. Of course, the Moto X P.E. 2015 was a flagship level device, and actually was the flagship for Moto last year; anyone who doesn't see that it competed with flagships, didn't have one.
Absolutely no new rumors regarding a Moto X Pure/Style 2016.
So sad.
The Google Pixel XL will be announced on 10/4 or 10/5 I think.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-xl
It'll be 6.04mm tall, same height as the Note 7.
But will have a 5.5" screen vs. our 5.7".
So it'll only be .02 mm shorter than the Pure but should be lighter and not as wide.
If it has a bright screen then I may buy it and take advantage of Project Fi.
If the screen isn't bright then I'll just stay with the MotoX Pure.
Smaller battery = Motorola has officially gone full retard
I highly doubt that it is the Moto X, there are high doubts that one will even launch this year. Those specs are probably for the Moto M that they "supposedly" plan on launching: http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_moto_m-8299.php
is that Kyro by PowerVR?