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My first android

Hello guys. And yes, i have tried the search, but idk why didnt get any answers ,tho im pretty sure there might be similar threads.
So i am planning to get a new phone, and since my friend informed me of android i instantly became a fan.
I would like to buy a low end - mid range android phone, but not sure which one. so far optimus one looks the best, but not flawless. I looked at samsungs but they are just ... err cant find the right word.... not for me, so to speak. and them darn htc's are way over priced... theyre becoming the second apple where you pay only for the name ,i like the htc legend, but its almost the same or even worse than optimus one in some specs (tho looks way cooler) and costs almost twice as much (in my country).
so.. i am kinda lost. maybe i should wait for some gingerbread updates and see if they fix optimus ones probs and then just get it.
ty for any feedback.

What carrier are you on?
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xilw3r said:
i like the htc legend, but its almost the same or even worse than optimus one in some specs (tho looks way cooler)
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You are joking...
Legend
Capacitive display (more responsive, multitouch support)
5mp camera w/ flash
unibody construction
384mb RAM
HTC Sense
Optimus
Resistive display (less responsive, no multitouch support)
3.1mp camera, no flash
Plastic body
256mb RAM
Stock android
They both have the same armv6 cpu at 600mhz, but you'll get smoother browsing on the Legend due to htc's modified browser.
Not saying you should get either, just saying, the Legend is does not have lower specs than the Optimus.

AdrianK said:
You are joking...
Legend
Capacitive display (more responsive, multitouch support)
5mp camera w/ flash
unibody construction
384mb RAM
HTC Sense
Optimus
Resistive display (less responsive, no multitouch support)
3.1mp camera, no flash
Plastic body
256mb RAM
Stock android
They both have the same armv6 cpu at 600mhz, but you'll get smoother browsing on the Legend due to htc's modified browser.
Not saying you should get either, just saying, the Legend is does not have lower specs than the Optimus.
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dont mean to be rude, but you sir are mixing lg optimus gt540 with optimus one also known as p500. which has exatcly the same size and pixel display as the legend, 512 ram and 2.2 android out of the box, yes it has a 3 mpix camera without flash, but that is something i dont care about. the design is plastic, some rubbery feeling, and metal strip around. really like it, feels like my old w880
edit: the carrier has no impact in my country, we dont have T mobile, orange, and so on (as in, not the same deals as u might have)

xilw3r said:
dont mean to be rude, but you sir are mixing lg optimus gt540 with optimus one also known as p500. which has exatcly the same size and pixel display as the legend, 512 ram and 2.2 android out of the box, yes it has a 3 mpix camera without flash, but that is something i dont care about. the design is plastic, some rubbery feeling, and metal strip around. really like it, feels like my old w880
edit: the carrier has no impact in my country, we dont have T mobile, orange, and so on (as in, not the same deals as u might have)
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Eeek >.< My bad indeed, sorry

I would wait a bit and get an HTC device

HTC evo with root
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orb3000 said:
I would wait a bit and get an HTC device
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why so, if i may ask ?
P.S.
@bwg ,htc evo was pretty high end the last time i checked :>

im using optimus one and regret to buy

Holy bumping old topics, batman!

HTC Rezound
8 MP auto focus, f/2.2, 28mm wide angle lens, 2 x LED flash; 2 MP front–facing camera, 1080p camcorder
Network
LTE 700 MHz (band 13); CDMA 1x/3G 800/1900 MHz
Dimensions
Size: 5.08” x 2.58” x .54”
Weight: 6oz
Operating System
Android Gingerbread
Display
4.3” super LCD screen, 720 x 1280, HD 720p
Keyboard
Virtual QWERTY
Battery
Rechargeable lithium–ion battery 1620 mAh
SAR: 1.25 W/kg @ 1g (HEAD)
1.12 W/kg @ 1g (BODY)
Usage: 404 minutes (typical)
Standby: 261 hours (typical)
Memory / Processor
Dual core 1.5GHz processor & 1GB DDR2 RAM
16GB internal memory (actual formatted capacity is less)
16GB microSD card pre–installed
Nice phone if you are looking for HTC

okay, i'm going to be straight up honest, in my opinion, lg has a horrible skin over android that makes the os sluggish and ugly. they however make really good harware. that's why i liked the g2x because it was stock android. honestly, if you're a first time android, i recommend the nexus line because that's how google really envisioned it to be like and you'll get the best experience with it. the nexus s is quite lovely. if you want the newest tech, then save up for the galaxy nexus. it's really expensive

LG... maybe not
Maybe totally off-topic
My father has an LG optimus one, and you know what? it's great. It's such a cool phone, but....
By the time my father bought his phone, I bought a samsung galaxy S2. I know, i know, it's more expensive that your two options, but you gotta think that the new galaxy SIII is just around the corner and so, the prices of the S2 are dropping.
I don't know if you can stretch your budget a liitle bit (maybe a lot) but I can assure you, the galaxy s2 for the first time android user is a life changer. Trust me, this is my first smartphone ever, and my last phone not even had a radio, a very loyal phone, but this is another world. Think about it, and good luck.

my first android is HTC desire

Android
My very first android phone : HTC SENSATION XL.
Awhyeah
F4LLCON

Evo 3d is getting android 4 if care about 3d

My first android phone was samsung galaxy ace.
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Why would you even think not investing money into a higher end phone.
First off it'll last you longer.
Second you'll have a lot more support from devs and fans.
Id never buy a cheap phone, so I suggest one of the galaxy s 2s or HTC Rezound, Vivid, or wait for the galaxy s 3/one x.
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I would buy a dual core phone as the first, like the HTC Sensation or a Samsung Galaxy SII.
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Hi.. My first Android was an Huawei u8650.. While now I've an LG optimus one.. And it's great!
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The core count dilemma

I had an iPhone 3GS. After I lost it now I have a HTC Desire.
My contract is expiring in a few months time and looking for another phone that will last me another 2 years. If I am going to use the phone for another 2 years, the hardware has to be up to the task. However I have problem with the latest crop of dual cores Android phones.
- LG Optimus 2x (despise the fake iPhone UI)
- Samsung Galaxy S II (despise the fake iPhone UI)
- Motorola Atrix (not available here)
- HTC Sensation (considering the Incredible S, not sure if it is rootable)
I could probably use a third party home screen for the Korean phones, I have tried most of them out there, IMO none of them are perfect. Zeam is not buggy, but doesn't scroll very smooth. Launcher Pro is very smooth, but occasionally pause to re cache (keep in memory doesn't quite work). ADW's elastic effect (so is Launcher Pro's) sometimes doesn't show up. IMO their features are superior in quantity but not in quality compared to vanilla Android or HTC's Sense.
On my Desire the AOSP ROMs tends to not fully utilise the hardware like the camera. I hope there are good AOSP ROM for them.
The phones that actually attracted me are:
- HTC Desire Z (has keyboard)
- SE Xperia Arc / Pro (Gigantic screen and pretty / has keyboards)
- Nexus S (I can imagine using it unrooted)
However they being all single core are kind of a side step from what i have now and worry they might get a little long in the tooth.
I considered the iPhone 5, on most aspect iPhone 4 is very nice to me, but it doesn't allow me to do simple things like USB file transfer, which is important to me. I also have a few Linux PC that doesn't do iTunes.
Thoughts?

There's no dilemma; buying a single-core in 2011 is downright stupid.

I bet my thunderbolt will give those dual core phones a run for there money...

liquid0624 said:
I bet my thunderbolt will give those dual core phones a run for there money...
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other than the LTE speed, it can't touch a dual core. thats so stupid that its beyond comprehension. do you also prefer a single core pentium4 over an i7?

lude219 said:
There's no dilemma; buying a single-core in 2011 is downright stupid.
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I wouldn't say it's stupid. Single-core devices will be pushed downmarket quickly and be more accessible. But I agree, anyone who tells me that a single-phone is a range-topping device is just trying to get a laugh

theomega said:
I wouldn't say it's stupid. Single-core devices will be pushed downmarket quickly and be more accessible. But I agree, anyone who tells me that a single-phone is a range-topping device is just trying to get a laugh
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I dont think economy of scales has anything to do with single or dual cores, but rather that's the natural progression of electronics. Every handset will go down eventually toward their End-of-Life (EOL) cycle before they're replaced with newer ones.

lude219 said:
other than the LTE speed, it can't touch a dual core. thats so stupid that its beyond comprehension. do you also prefer a single core pentium4 over an i7?
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Dude you don't have to be offensive.
Besides the gap between a dual and single core snapdragon is no where near between a processor today and one from a decade ago.
I don't play games, but I expect smooth UI. So the hardware is only part of the equation. As much as I like my Desire it is not as smooth as an iPhone 4 which is similarly spec'ed.
But if a dual core is what it takes to get that kind of smoothness on Android I'll pay for it. But once I paid for it I expect it to deliver as a package and not bogged down by some third rate software. Which is why I considered the Nexus S, which is as clean as it gets. The new Xperia line seems not bad from what I have seen even though they are single core.
Although the dual core Xperia will be a killer. But SE's history of software update may be a cause for concern.

lude219 said:
I dont think economy of scales has anything to do with single or dual cores, but rather that's the natural progression of electronics. Every handset will go down eventually toward their End-of-Life (EOL) cycle before they're replaced with newer ones.
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We are in agreement but thats not what I meant to suggest lol. Having dual-core phones at the subsidized $200-300USD top end will force carriers/manufacturers to price down single-core devices to occupy lower price points regardless of how competitive they are on performance.
OP - Looking at all the hands-ons lately with the Atrix, G2x, SGS2, etc. it seems like having 2 cores amounts to a fairly dramatic difference in smoothness of the UI. I guess the question is what constitutes "smooth enough"

HTC One X -VS- Samsung Galaxy SIII

The flagship of Samsung is now up and whoa! That is some latest piece of tech.
Specifications:
Samsung Galaxy SIII:
4.8" 720p SUPER AMOLED (pentile) Display.
1.4 GHz Quad Core.
8MP rear / 1.9MP front camera.
2100 mAh battery
16/32GB storage (64 coming soon) with sd card slot.
ICS with Touchwiz 4.0
HTC ONE X:
4.7" 720p Super LCD2 Display.
1.5 GHz Quad core.
8MP rear / 1.3MP front camera.
1800mAh battery.
32GB internal storage with no SD Card slot.
ICS with HTC Sense 4.0
My Opinion:
Well, specs ain't the only thing. The overall performance, feel in hand and overall experience of the phone really counts. I don't think it's a big leap forward as we already know HTC ONE X is a beast in itself.
I prefer HOX because I don't like touchwiz UI of Samsung and the build quality is better in HTC ofcourse.
Many people will go against me and that's how it goes in the world.
* Sense 4.0 is better than touchwiz.
* ImageSense is better than SIII camera.
* 1.5 GHz quad core (penta core to be precise) is better than 1.4 GHz Quad Core.
* The shape is actually better than SIII. Didn't like the shape of SIII. The shape is a serious letdown for me.
*I'll vote for One X against SIII*
IMPORTANT NOTE:
Buy the one you like. Vote for the one you admire. This sort of competition is good for the new technology. And at the end of the day THE BEST phone is one which is in your hands.
Enjoy your phone. Enjoy the talks.
Like THIS for a compliment.
Would love to listen from you people.

Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one. Have you owned both devices personally yet? Until you've had both side by side doing the same exact things then there is no way to properly determined.which is superior. Benchmarks are worthless. Seems you're already on Team HTC's bandwagon so you're mind is made up. There will be a billion GS3 posts on XDA and they will all won't be worth a ****.

rdubyah said:
Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one. Have you owned both devices personally yet? Until.you've had both side by side doing the same exact things then there is no way to properly determined.which is superior. Benchmarks are worthless.
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Yeah benchmarks are useless. That's why I didn't bring them into discussion.
I'm comparing the SPECS ONLY and there you see One X smashes SGSIII.
SGIII is built of polycarbonate as well but coated a sort of plastic layer (don't remember the name exactly) and that's ridiculous.
The bright shiny 720p SUPER LCD2 outclasses Pentile 720p Super Amoled.
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mohsinraza said:
Yeah benchmarks are useless. That's why I didn't bring them into discussion.
I'm comparing the SPECS ONLY and there you see One X smashes SGSIII.
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lmao biased much? only thing that is better is the screen.
Polycarbonate comes at the expense of microSD and (smaller) built in battery. Along with better battery you can pull out GS3 has a 32nm SOC instead of 40something which also saves battery and heats less.
Maybe the 7th One X you'll return will be on par with GS3.
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BTW Touchwiz vs Sense is kinda pointless as it depends on user preference, and anyhow were on XDA and you know how easy it is to just flash something different.

HTC..is interesting..very interesting

mohsinraza said:
The flagship of Samsung is now up and whoa! That is some latest piece of tech.
Specifications:
Samsung Galaxy SIII:
4.8" 720p SUPER AMOLED (pentile) Display.
1.4 GHz Quad Core.
8MP rear / 1.9MP front camera.
2100 mAh battery
16/32GB storage (64 coming soon) with sd card slot.
ICS with Touchwiz 4.0
HTC ONE X:
4.7" 720p Super LCD2 Display.
1.5 GHz Quad core.
8MP rear / 1.3MP front camera.
1800mAh battery.
32GB internal storage with no SD Card slot.
ICS with HTC Sense 4.0
My Opinion:
Well, specs ain't the only thing. The overall performance, feel in hand and overall experience of the phone really counts. I don't think it's a big leap forward as we already know HTC ONE X is a beast in itself.
I prefer HOX because I don't like touchwiz UI of Samsung and the build quality is better in HTC ofcourse.
Many people will go against me and that's how it goes in the world.
* Sense 4.0 is better than touchwiz.
* ImageSense is better than SIII camera.
* 1.5 GHz quad core (penta core to be precise) is better than 1.4 GHz Quad Core.
* The shape is actually better than SIII. Didn't like the shape of SIII. The shape is a serious letdown for me.
*I'll vote for One X against SIII*
IMPORTANT NOTE:
Buy the one you like. Vote for the one you admire. This sort of competition is good for the new technology. And at the end of the day THE BEST phone is one which is in your hands.
Enjoy your phone. Enjoy the talks.
Like THIS for a compliment.
Would love to listen from you people.
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Omg. Galaxy S3 GPU and CPU is much much better and best CPU and GPU on a mobile. New GPU is 400mhz. Just WTF. Even screen is best screen until today. I don't care about fancy stuff but new touchwiz is better than sense for me. REMEMBER THIS. Galaxy S with froyo have HW accelerated browser because of touchwiz. No one can touch S3 now. Tell me about glup. Byes.
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mohsinraza said:
Yeah benchmarks are useless. That's why I didn't bring them into discussion.
I'm comparing the SPECS ONLY and there you see One X smashes SGSIII.
SGIII is built of polycarbonate as well but coated a sort of plastic layer (don't remember the name exactly) and that's ridiculous.
The bright shiny 720p SUPER LCD2 outclasses Pentile 720p Super Amoled.
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Really interesting guys! There are 2 chances.
1- You didn't see a amoled screen.
2- You don't know about specs. Because One X doesn't have chance to own SGS3. Like S2 and Sensation. Even my sgs1 is faster and more ram than sensation.
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burakgon said:
Omg. Galaxy S3 GPU and CPU is much much better and best CPU and GPU on a mobile. New GPU is 400mhz. Just WTF. Even screen is best screen until today. I don't care about fancy stuff but new touchwiz is better than sense for me. REMEMBER THIS. Galaxy S with froyo have HW accelerated browser because of touchwiz. No one can touch S3 now. Tell me about glup. Byes.
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CPU & GPU won't make a difference until you play games HD games on the phone all day long. And for daily workings both are more than enough.
Whoa! You're kiddin' me. The pentile display is way too awkward. THIS IS NOT THE BEST SCREEN.
UI may come down to personal preference so not in discussion.
nebsif said:
lmao biased much? only thing that is better is the screen.
Polycarbonate comes at the expense of microSD and (smaller) built in battery. Along with better battery you can pull out GS3 has a 32nm SOC instead of 40something which also saves battery and heats less.
Maybe the 7th One X you'll return will be on par with GS3.
BTW Touchwiz vs Sense is kinda pointless as it depends on user preference, and anyhow were on XDA and you know how easy it is to just flash something different.
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32nm and 40nm actually have NO serious difference. Even S4 Snapdragon being 28mm isn't a outdated product. This actually is a no difference. Fifth core on One X is assigned to do the job as you've mentioned, less heat & longer battery.
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Both of them are great but I prefer Huawei ascend quad XL it has better specs

mohsinraza said:
32nm and 40nm actually have NO serious difference. Even S4 Snapdragon being 28mm isn't a outdated product. This actually is a no difference. Fifth core on One X is assigned to do the job as you've mentioned, less heat & longer battery.
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Sorry, but you're very very very wrong here. The difference between 40 and 32 is 20% less battery power for any given task. Between 40 and 28 is closer to 40% less battery usage.
Fifth core on Tegra 3 is technically retarded. Read Nvidia's white paper. The CPU can't have the fifth core on at the same time as any of the others, so Tegra 3 only saves battery power if you're not actually using your phone and it's only doing background tasks while the screen is off.
Furthermore, Tegra 3 has no dynamic voltage control. So if you were to watch a movie on a T3 device, and your email refreshes in the background, it would use the same processor power and clock speed as watching 2 movies at the same time. Both Krait S4 and Exynos 4 have dynamic voltage control.
Personally, I'd rather not have either device and wait for the LTE Padfone.

I had a SGS2... Moved from that to HTC One X because i just couldn't stand their TouchWiz UI..
The development on the SGS2 haven't been as i hoped, mainly due to their drivers.
Sorry, but i will stick with my HTC One X

sreza said:
Personally, I'd rather not have either device and wait for the LTE Padfone.
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What is the price of the Padphone at the release? I know you can preorder it around 1000 dollars

thatdefault said:
What is the price of the Padphone at the release? I know you can preorder it around 1000 dollars
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If you do a comparison vs what you would pay otherwise, it's actually much cheaper to get a Padfone than the alternatives.
Padfone+Padfone Station+Station Dock+BT stylus= ~$1000
Est. cost for data on ATT: $20-50 depending on plan size, $30 unlimited if you're grandfathered in like me
Apple:
iPhone 4S= $600
iPad 3rd gen= $600
BT keyboard case= $50
Total: $1250
Est. cost for data on ATT: $65 per month
Android:
HTC One X= $650
Transformer Prime+KB Dock= $700
Total: $1350
Est. cost for data on ATT: $65 per month
So you actually save at least $250 initially, and another $360-$1080 from data costs (Calculated using ATT required 5gb plan for data tethering= $65 per month, cheapest alternate for separate data plans is $55 per month).
If you're a particularly frugal data user, the Padfone system will actually pay for itself and leave you $80 further in the black than you were before your purchase compared to the alternatives!

All of these international One X fans need to remember that the dual core AT&T One X beats out the quad core international tegra 3 version in terms of performance. The quad core exynos is going to SMASH the One X! That being said, I still like the One X better. The SGSIII is like the GNEX's ugly little sister.

The problem is phones are very expensive here and the price won't go down anytime soon the price of galaxy S II is higher than neighboring countries and the price went up when the G model was announced Asus products are very expensive here TF 101 + keyboard dock costs more than the prime + dock. Thank God Dubai isn't far

lowandbehold said:
All of these international One X fans need to remember that the dual core AT&T One X beats out the quad core international tegra 3 version in terms of performance. The quad core exynos is going to SMASH the One X! That being said, I still like the One X better. The SGSIII is like the GNEX's ugly little sister.
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Why would the Exynos chip in the SG3 be faster than the Tegra 3 in the One X?
They're both A9 chips, Exynos is clocked at 1.4 while Tegra 3 is clocked at 1.5. Sure, the Exynos chip has wonderful features like the 32nm build and dynamic voltage control, but those only affect how efficiently it uses the battery. What affects speed is your Cortex class (both A9) and your clock speed, in which case Tegra 3 should theoretically perform slightly better.
I'm pretty sure any speed differences are going to come down to the differences between TouchWiz and Sense, not the specs on the phone.
And therefore, ATT One XL with the extended battery and the Krait S4 chip will probably perform better than the SG3 by the same degree that testing shows that it already performs better than the Tegra 3 One X.

Both of these phones have pretty awesome specs, so in that respect, I think personal preference is going to overrule anything else.
BUT, I have the Amaze 4G, and HTC has made it impossible (so far) to make a ROM that isn't based on their own Sense based ROM. As far as what I can see, HTC's One line is going to be even harder to develop. I enjoy trying different ROMs way too much to stick with HTC from this point forward (unless HTC changes their evil ways ).
As far as the different launchers, I haven't ever really liked a stock launcher on Samsung, HTC, or even LG (I think Cyanogenmod finally got it right with Trebuchet in their CM9 builds). I almost always put in a custom launcher.

i like samsung galaxy s3
ram management in htc one x is si bad

Let's take a look at the facts:
Screen :We will see who has the better screen when the reviews are released.
Proccesor :As shown on the becnhmarks the SGS3 is the faster one.
GPU :Again the SGS3 as shown by the recent benchmarks
Battery :SGS3 has an exchangable batter the HTC One X does not.SGS3 has also the bigger battery.
MicroSD :SGS3
Front camera :SGS3 again 1.3 vs 2.0 MPX
Back camera :Still unknown who has the better camera,but that will be revelead soon.
Storage:SGS3 again 64 GB + micro SD ,HTC ONE X 32 GB no microsd
Design :That's a matter of taste.
The SGS3 is obviously the better phone hardware wise plus it has many more features like eye tracking and S voice that the HTC ONE X lacks.

- UI I could care less what each has. I'm an XDA member and never have stock... lol.
- Processors sound like they'll be identical on the US phones, so that's a non-issue for me as well.
- HTC's lack of SD is a bit worrisome for me since the US only has 16 GB. That may limit what I can store, especially as apps get bigger and bigger. So there's one mark against the One X for me.
- Screens, the Galaxy is a tiny bit bigger, but I need to see peoples reviews that have been able to spend time with both to judge. What's on paper doesn't always matter.
- Camera is kind of important to me. I'm sick of my Captivates crappy camera. Reviews of the One X make it sound like it's awesome. I haven't seen much mention of the S3's yet besides "it looks good". Will have to see how reviewers rate it. It also sounded like the models they were showcasing weren't the final product for the camera either or am I just imagining things?
- GPS is important to me too. Again.. Captivate.... OMG!! I've heard nothing bad yet about the One X, and heard nothing about the S3, so we'll see.
- Aesthetics, build quality, etc... meh, whatever. It's a phone. It sits in my pocket. It goes in my hand and I look at the screen. I don't really care all that much what other people think of my phone while I'm mesmerized by the screen. If panels are falling off, buttons breaking etc. yeah that's bad but I'm pretty confident that won't happen on either phone.
So given that the One X already has a mark against it due to the lack of SD card slot and tiny 16 GB storage (I'm on a 2 GB plan, not unlimited so cloud and stuff isn't a very viable option for me) the S3 would have to have a crappy camera and or faulty GPS for me to consider the One X over it I think.

One S vs. Galaxy S2

Hey guys,
I've been using the T-Mobile USA Samsung Galaxy S2 for about 9 months now, but it recently had a screen issue that required a warranty replacement.
T-Mobile has offered to replace it with another S2, or with a One S.
My last HTC was the HD2 and MyTouch 4g, both of which I loved. But having used the S2 for awhile now, it has been a great device.
I could use some help if anyone here has used both phones and cares to offer an opinion. Is there a major difference in the screen?

1s>s2. S3 would be a wobbler

el_smurfo said:
1s>s2.
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Can you expound on that?

Better specs and build all around

el_smurfo said:
Better specs and build all around
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How about the screen? I've read that the SGS2's super amoled is better than the One S. Not sure if that's accurate or not...

1s is great. Go compare for yourself if this concerned with a phone. On the Internet you will only get subjective opinions that are meaningless

One s all the way .... But then again I dont like Samsung much
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maek_it_happen said:
One s all the way .... But then again I dont like Samsung much
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I just finished reading the AnandTech review of the One S, and it's pretty glowing.
Odd as it may seem, I think the biggest hangup I have is how used to TouchWiz I am!
I know many people hate it, but it has grown on me.
That, and I hate to give up the MicroSD card slot. I keep a lot of music and pictures on my phone.
I'm really leaning towards the One S,tho.

nova hands said:
Hey guys,
I've been using the T-Mobile USA Samsung Galaxy S2 for about 9 months now, but it recently had a screen issue that required a warranty replacement.
T-Mobile has offered to replace it with another S2, or with a One S.
My last HTC was the HD2 and MyTouch 4g, both of which I loved. But having used the S2 for awhile now, it has been a great device.
I could use some help if anyone here has used both phones and cares to offer an opinion. Is there a major difference in the screen?
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From my experience. I owed some of your phone and HTC One S never let me down. The screen isn't big compared to SG2, but design is elegant, sexy slim.
If course it offer sense 4.0 and development thread offered option roms.
And you're into big screen and newer tech you best options is SG3.
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nova hands said:
I just finished reading the AnandTech review of the One S, and it's pretty glowing.
Odd as it may seem, I think the biggest hangup I have is how used to TouchWiz I am!
I know many people hate it, but it has grown on me.
That, and I hate to give up the MicroSD card slot. I keep a lot of music and pictures on my phone.
I'm really leaning towards the One S,tho.
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My sis had a Samsung , thing was nothing but problems. Since going to an HTC device and using sense she know realises how much better HTC is .
I must note that the biggest difference is Samsung phones are open to root users .
If HTC only allowed s-off ....:banghead:
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If HTC only allowed s-off ....:banghead:
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My SGS2 hasn't had a single issue until the line in the screen showed up.
So the HTC can't be rooted? I don't understand what you mean...

No obviously it can be rooted , didn'tean to confuse or mislead . It's just certain HTC devices don't have an exploit for s-off .... Wich means boot IMG need to be flashed separaty in fastboot after you flash your Rom . Once/if we ever get s-off then you could flash normally ,
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S2's Super AMOLED Plus display crushes the One S display. On my One S, I had signal issues. Plus the One S doesn't have a removable battery or expansion slot. Although the One S does have a sleek design and a better S4 SnapDragon processor (assuming the replacement is S4)

The one S is the much better phone.
Advantages of one S, assuming you get the S4 version:
- audio (the best audio there is along with the GS 3 and possibly the iphone 5 now)
- best CPU chipset (CPU is better than the quad in the GS 3 and the X when it comes to performance per core, power efficiency and heat) and it is the fastest device I have used to date, faster than the GS 3 quad etc.
- best battery life excluding the RAZR max and possibly the iphone 5
- better screen than the GS 2 (read anandtech's review, they class it as being the best SAMOLED display they have ever used essentially) The only downside of it is that it isn't 720P and slightly larger, but the calibration of the screen is very good and IMO the overall quality when it comes to the colours etc. is better than the GS 3 SAMOLED screen
- build/perceived quality
- IMO design/looks
- one of the best cameras, although 1080P recording isn't great
- sense V4 IMO (the camera UI and features can't be matched as well as a few other things)
- NLED, although a crap NLED
Disadvantages for some people:
- low internal storage (10GB for videos, photos etc. and 2.21 GB for apps) and no SD slot
- no NFC
- non removable battery
Advantages of the GS 2 over the S:
- removable battery
- SD slot
- better developing community
- 1080P recording in terms of smoothness and light metering
The phone is superb, however, HTC's support for the S with regards to the updates is shocking and is why I might move to one of the new nexus devices if they match or better the S!

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- best CPU chipset (CPU is better than the quad in the GS 3)
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hahaha
Don't compare quadcore A9 with dual core A15.
Our Krait is fast but is a piece of **** comparing with quadcore from exynos.
GPU is sucks here also. We can't even play full 1080p video in desktop mod, because ****ty adreno 225. Games are lags also.
U didn't see that ? No ? Because you do not know the difference
Quadcore is a quadcore son. Don't be stupid.

avetny said:
hahaha
Don't compare quadcore A9 with dual core A15.
Our Krait is fast but is a piece of **** comparing with quadcore from exynos.
GPU is sucks here also. We can't even play full 1080p video in desktop mod, because ****ty adreno 225. Games are lags also.
U didn't see that ? No ? Because you do not know the difference
Quadcore is a quadcore son. Don't be stupid.
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I see you haven't educated yourself any further since I last pwned you:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=31643039&postcount=14
Back to your nursing home "pa". Leave technology to the younger generation.
PS. Regarding the 1080P not being played back, ever heard of a thing called software optimization? I guess you haven't......
Take those 1080P youtube videos and play them back in BS player and they work flawlessly.
Also what games are these? Poorly optimized games? Every game I have tried has been super smooth on the S.
HTH

Terminator19 said:
I see you haven't educated yourself any further since I last pwned you:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=31643039&postcount=14
Back to your nursing home "pa". Leave technology to the younger generation.
PS. Regarding the 1080P not being played back, ever heard of a thing called software optimization? I guess you haven't......
Take those 1080P videos and play them back in BS player and they work flawlessly.
Also what games are these? Poorly optimized games? Every game I have tried has been super smooth on the S.
HTH
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S III Release date: 22 May 2012
and your review made in May 01 2012.
Let me guess ATT decided to pay for review, so as a to resist fraud complaints.
Im gonna see later on review when they will release Galaxy note2 with quadcore.
I can say samething like u do....benchmarking is not optimized for quadcore.
And any way Krait A15 it's based on the same instruction set as the new ARM A15 processors"
please be sure to make clear the Qualcomm "Krait" Soc's are NOT full A15 architectures. they are BASED on A9's with heavily modified architectural features from the A15 ARM reference design, but the Krait is NOT a full A15.
Qualcomm lengthened Krait's integer pipeline slightly from 10 stages in Scorpion to 11 stages in Krait. ARM's Cortex A15 design by comparison features a 15-stage integer pipeline. The A15's deeper pipeline should give it a clock speed advantage as well.
there are many differences between Qualcomm's S4 "Krait" architecture and ARM's A15 design.
Just as Qualcomm's "Scorpion" A8-based chips weren't completely A9's either although they were heavily modified to include some A9 features.
Egypt test favors Vertex shading power, and Mali400 is intentionally lacking in that department. If you were to built a test that was pixel shader heavy, the results would be more balanced. You saw this same kind of thing happen in the GeForce 7, Radion X1900 era, when it was nVidia that decided it was better to have more Pixel power than Vertex power. The SGX doesn't haven't to worry about that since it's USA.
Remember how much it had not been optimized it still dual. And it means that you are limited in the maximum load. (DUAL WITH THE DAMN LOW RESOLUTION ! Which is BIG POINTS in benchmarking.)
U never use your phone how I do. Try to run media in car by Bluetooth, and surf the internet. when your google navigation is ON. What u gonna say now ? Is not optimized yet? Now do everything same on quadcore exynos...it will do it "like a boss".
I can give you fact after fact for a long time...but it's no point. U just got HTC one s...and I got cellphone store. I do not need to read reviews, I'm the one who makes them.

Terminator19 said:
The one S is the much better phone.
Advantages of one S, assuming you get the S4 version:
- audio (the best audio there is along with the GS 3 and possibly the iphone 5 now)
- best CPU chipset (CPU is better than the quad in the GS 3 and the X when it comes to performance per core, power efficiency and heat) and it is the fastest device I have used to date, faster than the GS 3 quad etc.
- best battery life excluding the RAZR max and possibly the iphone 5
- better screen than the GS 2 (read anandtech's review, they class it as being the best SAMOLED display they have ever used essentially) The only downside of it is that it isn't 720P and slightly larger, but the calibration of the screen is very good and IMO the overall quality when it comes to the colours etc. is better than the GS 3 SAMOLED screen
- build/perceived quality
- IMO design/looks
- one of the best cameras, although 1080P recording isn't great
- sense V4 IMO (the camera UI and features can't be matched as well as a few other things)
- NLED, although a crap NLED
Disadvantages for some people:
- low internal storage (10GB for videos, photos etc. and 2.21 GB for apps) and no SD slot
- no NFC
- non removable battery
Advantages of the GS 2 over the S:
- removable battery
- SD slot
- better developing community
- 1080P recording in terms of smoothness and light metering
The phone is superb, however, HTC's support for the S with regards to the updates is shocking and is why I might move to one of the new nexus devices if they match or better the S!
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Thanks for the in-depth comparison. This really helps me make a decision.
I hate to give up the quality 1080p recording of the S2, but the One S just seems like the next step in tech.
I'm gonna give it a shot because of the things you've mentioned, and because I'm guaranteed to get a new phone vs. a potentially refurbished S2.

avetny said:
S III Release date: 22 May 2012
and your review made in May 01 2012.
Let me guess ATT decided to pay for review, so as a to resist fraud complaints.
Im gonna see later on review when they will release Galaxy note2 with quadcore.
I can say samething like u do....benchmarking is not optimized for quadcore.
And any way Krait A15 it's based on the same instruction set as the new ARM A15 processors"
please be sure to make clear the Qualcomm "Krait" Soc's are NOT full A15 architectures. they are BASED on A9's with heavily modified architectural features from the A15 ARM reference design, but the Krait is NOT a full A15.
Qualcomm lengthened Krait's integer pipeline slightly from 10 stages in Scorpion to 11 stages in Krait. ARM's Cortex A15 design by comparison features a 15-stage integer pipeline. The A15's deeper pipeline should give it a clock speed advantage as well.
there are many differences between Qualcomm's S4 "Krait" architecture and ARM's A15 design.
Just as Qualcomm's "Scorpion" A8-based chips weren't completely A9's either although they were heavily modified to include some A9 features.
Egypt test favors Vertex shading power, and Mali400 is intentionally lacking in that department. If you were to built a test that was pixel shader heavy, the results would be more balanced. You saw this same kind of thing happen in the GeForce 7, Radion X1900 era, when it was nVidia that decided it was better to have more Pixel power than Vertex power. The SGX doesn't haven't to worry about that since it's USA.
Remember how much it had not been optimized it still dual. And it means that you are limited in the maximum load. (DUAL WITH THE DAMN LOW RESOLUTION ! Which is BIG POINTS in benchmarking.)
U never use your phone how I do. Try to run media in car by Bluetooth, and surf the internet. when your google navigation is ON. What u gonna say now ? Is not optimized yet? Now do everything same on quadcore exynos...it will do it "like a boss".
I can give you fact after fact for a long time...but it's no point. U just got HTC one s...and I got cellphone store. I do not need to read reviews, I'm the one who makes them.
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What?
Your post makes no sense at all apart from the middle part......Please learn how to write proper English with the correct use of grammar before posting.
Anyway, taking parts of your post that I can just about make out.
What review are you talking about? None of the reviews I have linked to were created on the 1st May and my review was done near the end of April.
Yes, benchmarking apps aren't optimised for quad core, therefore every expert review site will still use it anyway, seems legit.......
Emm, I said to compare the XL instead of the S, due to the S having a lower res. than the GS 3. The XL has the same res. as the GS 3 and it still beats the GS 3 quad in those benchmarks that I posted.....
I have never used my phone for that, so I can't comment from my own experience on that particular usage. What you are referring to is multi-tasking, which HTC have ****ed up on, they even said it is a "feature", therefore that is why you are probably having issues with doing those 3 things at the same time, again down to software optimization, not hardware.
Ok so you have this "cellphone store" of yours, yet you use a HTC one S as your main phone instead of your beloved GS 3, yeah ok........
nova hands said:
Thanks for the in-depth comparison. This really helps me make a decision.
I hate to give up the quality 1080p recording of the S2, but the One S just seems like the next step in tech.
I'm gonna give it a shot because of the things you've mentioned, and because I'm guaranteed to get a new phone vs. a potentially refurbished S2.
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No problem

Got the One S last week.
Absolutely love this phone, but my reception at home and at work has suffered as a result of the switch.
I'm not sure why, but I don't get enough signal in my house to make a call now. I was getting 2 solid bars of service with my Galaxy S2.
Are there different radios for this device that I can try?

Why are there no high end 4" android phones? Does everyone think bigger is better?

Why are there no high end 4" android phones? Does everyone think bigger is better?
This article raised a very good question I've been wondering for a while now too:
http://www.zdnet.com/dear-android-manufacturers-please-sell-me-the-phone-that-i-want-7000006437/
There are plenty of android phones to choose from. But every North American manufacturer's flagship phones are 4.6+ inches and they just seem to be getting bigger! I don't want a bigger phone...but I want flagship hardware. How many >4.5 inch android phones have top tier hardware (quadcore, HD screen, top end GPU). ZERO.:crying:
The one thing I think Apple has right is the size of the iPhone 5. It fits very comfortably in your hand. I can fit the Galaxy Nexus in one hand, but I cannot reach all areas of the screen with my thumb if I have 4 fingers gripping the side of the phone. I can stretch if I put my pinky on the bottom and only 3 on the side, but if I add a case to the mix then it becomes uncomfortable again.
Now I admit I have smaller hands, but I'm sure others have this issue as well. I just was shocked to read through the comments on the story to see how many people avidly almost "attacked" the author for his opinion. Thinking it was ridiculous to expect options like this. And that people with smaller hands should just be content with outdated hardware on smaller phones.
Anyone else who wish the sizes would go back down? Or at least have options of smaller models with the same high end hardware? Was really hoping for a 4-4.3" Nexus 4...but I know that's not going to happen Oh well...here's to hoping it might happen with the Nexus 5...

I think it has to do with utility anymore. Screen size is pretty much a deciding factor for most because of what they can do or what they feel they need with their device. I agree with you on size but do not think one handing your phone shouldn't be a factor.
However, 4" is a nice juicy screen size for anyone. But then again there is the utility thing to think about. Who really uses a smart phone just to make calls or view an email/text anymore?
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lowbudge said:
I think it has to do with utility anymore. Screen size is pretty much a deciding factor for most because of what they can do or what they feel they need with their device. I agree with you on size but do not think one handing your phone shouldn't be a factor.
However, 4" is a nice juicy screen size for anyone. But then again there is the utility thing to think about. Who really uses a smart phone just to make calls or view an email/text anymore?
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to be honest i am absolutely agree with u.
now adays smartphone is used for browsing and multimedia rather than make a call and sms or email.
u can get samsung galaxy s3 mini at least.
IMHO. nexus series will look like this in the future. i believe google has make some kind of standardization of their phone model.
4.65 with a shape like galnex.
its not the screen size that i really concern. but the battery life...

There is a high end phone that's 4" its called the Droid Incredible 4G LTE
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Screens are huge because we demand high definition screens. 720x1280 doesn't come cheap in a 4inch screen. Also leaves more room for battery and the extra lte antenna.

The new Galaxy S3 Mini just came out! It has the SPECS of a flagship devices, but has a 4" screen!

I prefer big displays mainly because tiny onscreen keyboards are hard to use.

Alton (Halo 2) said:
There is a high end phone that's 4" its called the Droid Incredible 4G LTE
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I guess I should have been more clear in my title. I meant 4" flagship devices, top tier...not just "high end". The Droid is only dual core, 1GB of ram, 8GB of storage and isn't 720P.
063_XOBX said:
Screens are huge because we demand high definition screens. 720x1280 doesn't come cheap in a 4inch screen. Also leaves more room for battery and the extra lte antenna.
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Take a look at the specs of the Chinese phone listed in the article...
"720p 4.3-inch screen with a Retina-display-busting pixel density of 342ppi. Quad-core 1.5GHz Snapdragon processor, 2GB of RAM, Jelly Bean and up to 32GB of storage. No microSD, sadly, and of course there may be support and warranty issues, but this ideally-sized powerhouse will retail at less than £250."
So It can be done. And on the affordable side even (~$400). My question is why is there no equivalent of this in the North American market?

colonelcack said:
I guess I should have been more clear in my title. I meant 4" flagship devices, top tier...not just "high end". The Droid is only dual core, 1GB of ram, 8GB of storage and isn't 720P.
Take a look at the specs of the Chinese phone listed in the article...
"720p 4.3-inch screen with a Retina-display-busting pixel density of 342ppi. Quad-core 1.5GHz Snapdragon processor, 2GB of RAM, Jelly Bean and up to 32GB of storage. No microSD, sadly, and of course there may be support and warranty issues, but this ideally-sized powerhouse will retail at less than £250."
So It can be done. And on the affordable side even (~$400). My question is why is there no equivalent of this in the North American market?
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4.3 with buttons is the same profile as the Galaxy Nexus without. Maybe a little narrower.

063_XOBX said:
4.3 with buttons is the same profile as the Galaxy Nexus without. Maybe a little narrower.
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I didn't think about the buttons. I guess I couldn't really say unless I held it in my hands, but it seems noticeably smaller on paper:
Xiaomi MI-2 Dimensions:
126 x 62 x 10.2 mm (4.96 x 2.44 x 0.40 in)
VS
Samsung Galaxy Nexus I9250 Dimensions:
135.5 x 67.9 x 8.9 mm (5.33 x 2.67 x 0.35 in)
Not a HUGE difference...again, I'd prefer a 4" phone where the difference would be more noticeable. But if these specs can be squeezed into 4.3" on the cheap from a no name brand, my point is it's definitely possible to do 4" from a big name brand manufacturer.

colonelcack said:
I guess I should have been more clear in my title. I meant 4" flagship devices, top tier...not just "high end". The Droid is only dual core, 1GB of ram, 8GB of storage and isn't 720P.
Take a look at the specs of the Chinese phone listed in the article...
"720p 4.3-inch screen with a Retina-display-busting pixel density of 342ppi. Quad-core 1.5GHz Snapdragon processor, 2GB of RAM, Jelly Bean and up to 32GB of storage. No microSD, sadly, and of course there may be support and warranty issues, but this ideally-sized powerhouse will retail at less than £250."
So It can be done. And on the affordable side even (~$400). My question is why is there no equivalent of this in the North American market?
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I think part of the reason there isn't much interest in a north American equivalent, is because, it's a common myth throughout the world that we believe 'bigger is better' ...
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crazaytalent said:
I think part of the reason there isn't much interest in a north American equivalent, is because, it's a common myth throughout the world that we believe 'bigger is better' ...
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It is a common idea in North America that "bigger is better," as well as "more is better." Just check out the average BMI in the US... kinda high up there.... and it ain't muscle mass.... check out Texas as an example.
I too was very concerned with my future phone before I upgraded to the Gnex. I had a 4.3" Droid Charge. I thought that anything over 4.5" was pushing my limits, but I slowly became very comfortable with the current Gnex size. However, I still do not want anything larger than 4.65"... so I'm hoping the future Nexus phones after the Nexus 4 don't get any bigger.
Side note: w00t SF Giants FTW!!!!!

I think the current nexus screen size is perfect imo

maybe the nexus 3 will grant your wish?

I guess your the odd one out that manufacturers don't care about
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High end Android phone will never be released in 4inch. That's how they make them different from iphone in the first place. There are more ppl want bigger phone. And tbh, ppl use both hand to type even on iphone... 4inch high end flagship phone is... meh... it will never happen..
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colonelcack said:
I guess I should have been more clear in my title. I meant 4" flagship devices, top tier...not just "high end". The Droid is only dual core, 1GB of ram, 8GB of storage and isn't 720P.
Take a look at the specs of the Chinese phone listed in the article...
"720p 4.3-inch screen with a Retina-display-busting pixel density of 342ppi. Quad-core 1.5GHz Snapdragon processor, 2GB of RAM, Jelly Bean and up to 32GB of storage. No microSD, sadly, and of course there may be support and warranty issues, but this ideally-sized powerhouse will retail at less than £250."
So It can be done. And on the affordable side even (~$400). My question is why is there no equivalent of this in the North American market?
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The Chinese manufactured phones (xaomi etc) are produced in small amounts and are only cheap because of excess chip production. They're really hard to find in any market.
The Droid Incredible LTE is a great phone. The Snapdragon S4 is no slouch and the screen is rather beautiful. If you're expecting a 720p screen on a 4 inch device...please...come down to earth with the rest of us. The only way you're getting that is if you buy an iPhone or somehow get your hands on one of the Chinese phones.
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Smokeey said:
The Chinese manufactured phones (xaomi etc) are produced in small amounts and are only cheap because of excess chip production. They're really hard to find in any market.
The Droid Incredible LTE is a great phone. The Snapdragon S4 is no slouch and the screen is rather beautiful. If you're expecting a 720p screen on a 4 inch device...please...come down to earth with the rest of us. The only way you're getting that is if you buy an iPhone or somehow get your hands on one of the Chinese phones.
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iphone 5 is not a 720p display... close but not a true 720p
http://www.zdnet.com/will-the-iphone-5-display-remain-competitive-7000004012/

A 4" top tier device now would probably be way more costly to manufacture than the usual 4.5"+ screen size device. And there will probably be very very few quad cores, if any in a device that small. Battery and all the other top tier accoutrements just won't be feasible. You will have to settle for a sacrifice somewhere. Last years top end specs in 4" form factor is probably best you can expect for a year or two.
Off topic but I wish Samsung took a chance on the galaxy premier and made it just like the nexus instead of Samsung's typical hardware button accompanied by two capacitive buttons. Better GPU and CPU. And add stock android. Samsung is probably too scared to lose any marketshare by alienating a device. What is wrong with taking small chances on a mid end device? All the people skipping the lg nexus 4 would probably take a serious at the i9260 if it had Google's now standard software navigation, with upgraded specs aaaaaaand a SD card slot. Smdh Samsung.
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Zepius said:
iphone 5 is not a 720p display... close but not a true 720p
http://www.zdnet.com/will-the-iphone-5-display-remain-competitive-7000004012/
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My point exactly though. You can't get true 720p in a 4 inch screen and if you did you'd have to use a microscope to read anything.
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