I purchased a Pixel 2 for my wife that should be arriving tomorrow. I will not be unlocking the bootloader or rooting as it interferes with her work email and apps. I've been reading about the issues with Android 10 so I'm wondering if I should try to prevent the phone from updating to 10 during initial setup. Do you guys recommend updating to 10? What would you do if you had a new Pixel 2? Thanks.
Let it update, otherwise you're postponing the inevitable. Android 9 has it's problems for some too. I suppose you could wait for a few fixes to be rolled out before upgrading, but personally I don't regret the move to 10.
I went from 8 to 10. Skipped 9 altogether. I like the new notification features in 10 as well as a few other things. I haven't really had any issues with 10 other than lack of development for theming and a few other tweaks, but that is to be expected. I don't think you would regret updating... It's early though, but it will get better. Already better that what pie tried to be!
All that said, it is known that the signal is not as strong as with previous Android versions.. For me anyway. So if you live in a low signal area, it may be best to wait until at least the next security update.
I'm waiting for the October update
I've had a few random reboots ever since the 10 update.
Hope this gets fixed with the upcoming October release.
(Magisk might also have something to do with that but hey ... at least it's all dark within the phone )
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Since getting my phone only a few weeks ago I've not received the android 10 update (I did get the last android 9 one) but I'm really happy with everything at it stands.
I've had no bugs or issues at all and so why move to android 10 anyway?
I disabled the main Google app, Chrome etc as don't use any of these and I've seen on a previous phone that this can affect the OTA updates.
Just wondered how happy others are with 9 or 10 hence this thread.
I made the upgrade to 10 and have no regrets. All runs smoothly. I too did not receive an OTA update. Have you unlocked your bootloader? This would cause this.
For the average user though, there is little front end difference from 9 - 10. Basically, if you want to upgrade, the manual process is super easy, and doesn't even require a computer to do. If you are happy with 9 though, don't feel obligated to upgrade
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I made the upgrade to 10 and have no regrets. All runs smoothly. I too did not receive an OTA update. Have you unlocked your bootloader? This would cause this.
For the average user though, there is little front end difference from 9 - 10. Basically, if you want to upgrade, the manual process is super easy, and doesn't even require a computer to do. If you are happy with 9 though, don't feel obligated to upgrade
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It's funny as I thought I'd give it a try today so enabled Google (main app) and Chrome (plus updates), then ran a scan for any available updates....
Shocker, Now I get the notification and huge download. This is the second phone I've had that I've done this trick on so it seems like if you have either both or one of these apps disabled then you'll be skipped for OTA updates.
All installed now to 10 and yup looks pretty much the same. I'm really happy with the way ASUS ZenUI works also. Better than fully stock but not even half as intrusive as say Samsung.
I Haven't updated yet because there is no fully working GCAM on Android 10, and also no custom Kernel available yet, two features that are important for me.
I have updated. So far so good. No issues related to Android 10 itself. Two things I'd like to be fixed:
1. Every time I type my PIN-code I have to press "Go" button
2. Clear RAM shortcut doesn't clear RAM after update, just opens the proprietary tool for it.
If i knew what i know now i would never updated to 10.
- Gcam doesn't work or work really bad
- Phone stutters a lot on a game i usually play, like every x seconds
- Night photo quality is really really bad
DoubleM101 said:
If i knew what i know now i would never updated to 10.
- Gcam doesn't work or work really bad
- Phone stutters a lot on a game i usually play, like every x seconds
- Night photo quality is really really bad
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Asus has posted an image to downgrade to Android 9. Look for "Version Android Q downgrade to Android P" at the Downloads section: https://www.asus.com/Phone/ZenFone-6-ZS630KL/HelpDesk_BIOS/
Don't know if it works for v.73 though.
CbIP said:
Asus has posted an image to downgrade to Android 9. Look for "Version Android Q downgrade to Android P" at the Downloads section: https://www.asus.com/Phone/ZenFone-6-ZS630KL/HelpDesk_BIOS/
Don't know if it works for v.73 though.
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Thanks, i wasn't aware there was an official way to do it.
I will wait for a couple of weeks to see if Asus came up with a fix at least for the camera. If not, i will be forced to do it.
Android 9 performed better. 10 has a few stutters and freezes at times I think it's using more ram with this update.
I hope they can fix some of these issues in a patch the microphone bug when making a call and the lag and freezes are VERY annoying
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So, I picked up a new unlocked 4a from BestBuy today. Before I set it up, I want to know if I should let the phone upgrade to Android 11 or try to keep it on 10? I know there have been some problems with 11. What's the opinion on this?
woody1 said:
So, I picked up a new unlocked 4a from BestBuy today. Before I set it up, I want to know if I should let the phone upgrade to Android 11 or try to keep it on 10? I know there have been some problems with 11. What's the opinion on this?
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My opinion is to wait for the November or December update and then upgrade to Android 11.
I'm still on Android 10
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So, I picked up a new unlocked 4a from BestBuy today. Before I set it up, I want to know if I should let the phone upgrade to Android 11 or try to keep it on 10? I know there have been some problems with 11. What's the opinion on this?
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No issues with A11; Oct update smoothed out a few rough edges that weren't that jagged to begin with. Every update brings drama from the fringes. Gotta decide what camp you fall into.
Are there any Android Auto issues with the current version of 11? I think there were some at one point. BTW, I'm upgrading from an OG Pixel XL which is still going strong.
Weird mine came with 11 out of the box.
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Weird mine came with 11 out of the box.
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You're in the UK? I think your release date was later than other countries so that's probably why.
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You're in the UK? I think your release date was later than other countries so that's probably why.
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I'm based in USA although an expat. I bought mine from Best Buy today.
Just my 2 cents. I just got my 4a yesterday and it came with 10, i updated to 11 during setup. I have ZERO issues. I was actually a little worried reading stories about issues, but i don't have a single issue.
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Just my 2 cents. I just got my 4a yesterday and it came with 10, i updated to 11 during setup. I have ZERO issues. I was actually a little worried reading stories about issues, but i don't have a single issue.
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Of course you didn't. For every negative report there are vastly larger numbers of perfectly happy users. Widespread issues draw a huge response over multiple boards that easily stand out from run-of-the-mill grumbling.
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No issues with A11; Oct update smoothed out a few rough edges that weren't that jagged to begin with. Every update brings drama from the fringes. Gotta decide what camp you fall into.
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Plus if you DO have problems after "use 10 for a bit, install 11" then you'll probably end up factory resetting and doing all your reinstallation, config again.
(I recall from back when i could be bothered fiddling with cyanogenmod that nobody was interested in bug reports if you did a "dirty flash" - you had to do a factory reset first as it cured all sorts of problems. i wonder if google doesn't test stuff properly and you end up in the same situation and that's why factory resetting fixes so many problems).
The devices came with 10/11 based basically of release date in your state/region you live. I for example live in Italy and I bought mine from Google directly. It arrived 8 Oct with already 11 installed and with Oct security patch. No issue here with 11, as the major part of the other people. Let's say that's generally is expected to have some problems when there is a major release come out, as with any other software piece, not only android, but generally a couple of update fix all. And it seems so with Google security patch too.
I've decided to go ahead and update to 11. I assume that the pending update is for the Oct release,, but the notification doesn't show which release it is, only that it's for v11. I don't really want to factory reset before the update. Does anybody think it's a good idea to do a reset first?
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I've decided to go ahead and update to 11. I assume that the pending update is for the Oct release,, but the notification doesn't show which release it is, only that it's for v11. I don't really want to factory reset before the update. Does anybody think it's a good idea to do a reset first?
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On Android 11 because phone shipped with it .
Should be no need to reset first.
No touch screen issues with Spigen protector.
Android auto works fine with the assistant lagging from time to time. However that could have been due to poor service....
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I've decided to go ahead and update to 11. I assume that the pending update is for the Oct release,, but the notification doesn't show which release it is, only that it's for v11. I don't really want to factory reset before the update. Does anybody think it's a good idea to do a reset first?
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It's best to factory reset AFTER updating.
Also I'm fairly sure by now every region would have the October security update.
I did the update this afternoon. The update was for the September release, but then there was a 2nd update which brought it up to October. The phone seems to be running well after the updates. It seems a little zippier than before.
New to OnePlus. Bought the OnePlus 8T when it came out. And I've received a couple of system updates. But, I'm still on the October security patch. How often do they release security updates? Or how far behind do they tend to stay on security updates?
USUALLY....they roll out security updates bi-monthly. Sometimes it will come a little later.
To get the fastest updates after release then use Oxygen Updater from the Play Store.
I have had three OnePlus phones and continue to use OnePlus. I have also used Oxygen Updater on all three without any issues at all.
Now the rub here is that when you do finally get the latest security update...it will probably still be a month behind.
So, hopefully we will get the update in early January, 2021...but it will most likely be the December, 2020 security patch. So while OnePlus is pretty good at fulfilling their bi-monthly policy of security updates, they are almost always (always) a month behind.
Yeah, I'm absolutely loving the OnePlus phone. I've been a Google phone user for years. It looks like I'll be sticking with OnePlus... At least for the foreseeable future. Waiting to see what the 9 Pro is going to be like and may move to that. Just wasn't sure how the security patches worked. Thank you!
Today I saw that no matter the theme of the phone the update interface in settings turn white, all text disappeared and the only text showing now is "YOUR SYSTEM IS UP TO DATE". No more version, no more last check, etc. Is this the sign the phone was disconnected from the Xiaomi servers? I thought this was supposed to be the last month of updates.
Nothing changed in my update interface in settings, I'm on june 2021 security patch, dark theme, and I can still check for updates.
But indeed I doubt that we still have updates (maybe one last...)
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Nothing changed in my update interface in settings, I'm on june 2021 security patch, dark theme, and I can still check for updates.
But indeed I doubt that we still have updates (maybe one last...)
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This is what happened to me... can't be an isolated case, that's why I'm asking.
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This is what happened to me... can't be an isolated case, that's why I'm asking.
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That's exactly what mine looks like although what it means regarding any updates is anyone's guess. As it happens my screen has started to separate just this week with long streaks up both sides. It's not affected performance yet (and may not do) but along with the lack of updates from now on I took the opportunity to order a Poco X3 Pro 8/256MB. Perhaps Outlook will decide to start working again for me
The last "performance" update was upgrade to android 10 and maybe few following, all others was security patches from google! No one cares about this model at list one year, wake up guys! Thanks god we have a realy big community, and still rolling out new customs for this model.
Hi All.
I'm on May 1 update now. Recently mobile data stopped working from time to time and cellular signal doesn't function on incoming calls and SMS when SIM is in slot 1.
Seems more like a hardware issue to me, but did you experience anything like that with your Mi A2 Lite?
guess its time to move to a stable custom rom, maybe with dt2w
Maybe But if it is a hardware fault the rom won't matter.
its not hardware, we had it and they removed it with i cant remember wich update
I have a Pixel 7 Pro purchased through T-Mobile. 100% stock, no modifications. Google Play System update is Nov. 1. I am still on the November security patch. Attempting the system update results in ""Your system is up to date" Is this a google problem, TMobile slow update or a phone problem?
T-Mobile I'd imagine. Just use Pixel Flasher or https://flash.android.com
I joined the beta program
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I joined the beta program
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How is it? Stable enough to daily drive? I was stuck on the Nov. 22 patch as well until I sideloaded via ADB last night.
Nov 1 is the latest Play System Update afaik, at least thats what the QPR shows....
Google is having problems
This is one of those moments where it's not you it's them is actually true and not gaslighting . Play Updates are not rolling out properly
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I have a Pixel 7 Pro purchased through T-Mobile. 100% stock, no modifications. Google Play System update is Nov. 1. I am still on the November security patch. Attempting the system update results in ""Your system is up to date" Is this a google problem, TMobile slow update or a phone problem?
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Seems you are not alone.
T-Mobile is running way behind on Google Pixel security updates
Timely updates are supposed to be a prime Pixel perk
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Yeah I am on December update very annoyed with Google nothing has changed
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That sucks and should not be the Pixel experience. I would call T-Mobile and ask them why you are on an old update?
I have had decent updates so far but would be rather upset if I had a security update that was older than other OEM as that is part of the reason for getting a Pixel.
Sign up for Beta and you'll get QPR2 Beta 2. In my experience, it is much more fluid and responsive than previous builds. It fixes the scrolling issues and seems to have improved battery compared to the December update.
My wife's P7 still is on Dec update and says it's up to date. I manually flash and root mine, but not about to go to that work for her phone.
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My wife's P7 still is on Dec update and says it's up to date. I manually flash and root mine, but not about to go to that work for her phone.
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Can't you just adb sideload update.zip without having to even unlock the bootloader?
Full OTA Images for Nexus and Pixel Devices | Google Play services | Google for Developers
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Google provides the means to update it yourself manually easily if you're not willing to wait for your turn. Their tools aren't even that complicated to use. I don't understand the big deal when you have manufacturers like Samsung that can take 3-6 months or longer to update between major version releases, Motorola that updates whenever they feel like it and only gives 2 years of major version updates, and OnePlus that's always behind like 2 months in security updates.
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Can't you just adb sideload update.zip without having to even unlock the bootloader?
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Google provides the means to update it yourself manually easily if you're not willing to wait for your turn. Their tools aren't even that complicated to use. I don't understand the big deal when you have manufacturers like Samsung that can take 3-6 months or longer to update between major version releases, Motorola that updates whenever they feel like it and only gives 2 years of major version updates, and OnePlus that's always behind like 2 months in security updates.
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I could, but it's my wife's phone so I don't want to mess with it. I'd have to pry it out of her hands first.
Colchiro said:
I could, but it's my wife's phone so I don't want to mess with it. I'd have to pry it out of her hands first.
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If she's complaining about it, 10 minutes in your hands beats you hearing about it for however long it takes for the update server to decide it's her turn.
Also mine show November as last play service update (I'm on the beta). Italian unlocked phone
Nov is the latest still for play system. There wasn't a Dec and Jan hasn't rolled out yet
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If she's complaining about it, 10 minutes in your hands beats you hearing about it for however long it takes for the update server to decide it's her turn.
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There's also the indeterminate minutes, if/when something goes sideways...
This is being delayed for un-branded devices as well, such as mine purchased G-Store direct, based on some sort of carrier-block. I'm tempted to go dig through some dev-docs, to see if I can find this (could be an section not published for most, I suppose), but I figure to what end, mostly.
As you mention, easy side-load, but without knowing why this is being blocked for non-TMo (branded, so not gated by their release of their OTA) devices, it's a gamble of sorts...
I just posted in another thread that I think this is an odd situation. I use an MVNO Boost Mobile that uses T-Mobile and I got the update on the 5th. Maybe I got it before they pulled it? Why would they hold the update back to T-Mobile customers but not the MVNO?