Anyone else feel their phone is slower after rooting and having magisk modules? - OnePlus 7 Pro Questions & Answers

I feel as if my phone isn't as snappy as it was before I rooted it. I'm running .11 with Renovate Ice and a few other magisk modules

I bet its the magisk modules. They slow you down quite a lot depending on the size of them.

nothing here, vanced + viper

yes, i have always feel that rooting is slowing device. From OP 5, i use vanilla no root or else.

chazarss said:
yes, i have always feel that rooting is slowing device. From OP 5, i use vanilla no root or else.
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Why would you feel that? Root is just a change to system rights. Root in itself doesn't slow the phone down. Mods made under root (such as Magisk modules) is another story.
Any number or reasons for a device to run the way it does. But folks suddenly start blaming "root" without any specific evidence.
To the top poster, it would seem disabling the modules would be an easy way to test the theory.

redpoint73 said:
Why would you feel that? Root is just a change to system rights. Root in itself doesn't slow the phone down. Mods made under root (such as Magisk modules) is another story.
Any number or reasons for a device to run the way it does. But folks suddenly start blaming "root" without any specific evidence.
To the top poster, it would seem disabling the modules would be an easy way to test the theory.
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Magisk requires a daemon to run 24/7 it also hooks into logd process
So it is possible

Never noticed any slowness on my GM 2017! Rooted since day one...

I've come to that conclusion nearly 4 years ago, back in the days of Xposed.
I believe that altering system files in any way will have some effects on running speed and functionality in general.
Stock ATW.

I'm so confused.

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Do you recommend using Xposed once it's updated for KitKat?

I tend to not like flashing ROMs as I don't need most of the features they offer and it becomes a big time waster. That's a benefit of Nexus is you get a good software experience out of the box. Without flashing ROMs, you don't have much need for things like TiBu, so I never even rooted my GNex and felt no need to. However I find myself interested in Xposed and some of the modules, namely XPrivacy and Greenify. If you have used these on past phones or in particular the Nexus 4, can you share your experiences and whether you recommend using them for the N5 once they are updated for it. How about security implications of being unlocked/rooted vs. not. What are the risks, and is it possible to relock the bootloader after obtaining root and keep root?
Thanks.
In regard to the original question in the post YES!!!! There are sooooo many things you can do with it. Like getting most to all of the customization features of custom ROM's without having to flash anything. With Greenify you can hibernate system apps with the module. Personally I hope it's up and running soon.
Yes.
there are already lots of documents/posts discussing rooting, and most of them give you clearer answers than i do..
to me, the only risk of rooting lies in the user's own (or lack of) skill level in mastering the rooted device..

which ones are the root advantages on pixel 2?.

Hey guys.
I have my pixel 2 for 2 months now, came from a Samsung galaxy S8. My whole life I used Samsung since the S2 and I always had the need to root it for cleaner roms, faster kernels and such. This one is the first phone that I don't even feel the need to do root, however I see a lot of people rooting it so I'm wondering which are the advantages? Because there's almost no custom roms for it and custom kernels. I don't think people would root their phones only because of few apps that would work better with root for some more features.
So my question is... There's noticable advantage to root the pixel 2 ? Like on Samsung for faster ROMs, better battery life and performance and so on?
Thanks for your feedback.
Personally, I rooted my Pixel 2 for using Flash kernel and AdAway. If I wasn't so picky about ad blocking, I would not have rooted.
I find that it's a damn good phone and unless you have a very specific need for root, I don't think it's worth it.
It's not for a "few apps that would work better with root for some more features", it's for some apps that can't doi their job at all without root. (And for some of us, coming from Unix/Linux, running Linux [which is the OS that Android runs on] without su is like rowing with one oar. It's just not right.)
Even if I didn't have any apps installed that needed root, the phone still has the ability to elevate the user just in case I need it. (And things like pulling your contacts off the database file they're on, or saving the data of some app that's stored in /data/data/<somewhere> [or recovering a deleted file] are just "go do it", not "you can't get there from here".)
Ad blocking, changing the squeeze actions, change emojis to look normal, and viper 4 Android audio tweaks

Genuine Question: What is the benefit of rooting at this point?

First off, a disclaimer: I come from a long line of rooting android phones, from the Nexus of yore to Samsungs and the Axon 7, to now potentially rooting the OP7 Pro. I know what rooting does, I know I can change the ROM, and that will allow me to change the look etc etc. But is there really benefit outside of that anymore?
And what things will I lose by rooting? Will google pay still work? Etc.
I've been getting bored with the stock ROM, not because there's anything wrong with it, I actually have only a 55% urge to root and load up a custom ROM. It's mostly out of boredom to be honest. But I find that as phones progress, my need to root and flash a new ROM shrinks. Especially since this is relatively close to Stock Android in the first place.
EasyTiger6x13 said:
First off, a disclaimer: I come from a long line of rooting android phones, from the Nexus of yore to Samsungs and the Axon 7, to now potentially rooting the OP7 Pro. I know what rooting does, I know I can change the ROM, and that will allow me to change the look etc etc. But is there really benefit outside of that anymore?
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Logon just to agree with what OP said. I, too came from a very long line of android phones (#AndroidMasterRace). As I changed from phone to phone, I eventually find it less and less appealing to root and currently rooting my phone just out of habit than actual needs.
EasyTiger6x13 said:
And what things will I lose by rooting? Will google pay still work? Etc.
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As long as Magisk passed with Safety Net, Google Pay will still work. Other than Warranty, you lose nothing. Rooting just let you gain more control over your phone.
oceanax said:
Logon just to agree with what OP said. I, too came from a very long line of android phones (#AndroidMasterRace). As I changed from phone to phone, I eventually find it less and less appealing to root and currently rooting my phone just out of habit than actual needs.
As long as Magisk passed with Safety Net, Google Pay will still work. Other than Warranty, you lose nothing. Rooting just let you gain more control over your phone.
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You don't even lose warranty.
There is nothing permanent done when unlocking the BootLoader or rooting.
You gain full control.
Do you mean root or custom ROM? You don't need root for a custom ROM...
As for rooting...
Systemwide adblock
Substratum themes
Pixel launcher & recents
Live caption + dark theme assistant
etc
I always root for numerous apps, mods, controls, etc...
Viper4android
galaxys said:
I always root for numerous apps, mods, controls, etc...
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Could you list the ones you use or would root to use, I'm also tempted to root but don't really see a big benefit, maybe you can change my mind
Adaway is my big plus to rooting. Doesn't matter what app or game I use, no ads.
Titanium Backup is my other #1 app to have. If I have problems with a specific OS (in my case, I had to downgrade from Android 10 back to 9), Titanium Backup put all my (game) data back without issues.
darkandshadow said:
Adaway is my big plus to rooting. Doesn't matter what app or game I use, no ads.
Titanium Backup is my other #1 app to have. If I have problems with a specific OS (in my case, I had to downgrade from Android 10 back to 9), Titanium Backup put all my (game) data back without issues.
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seconded. adaway is the main reason for me too. and Viper4Android
Im looking for a ROM that enables free tethering built in. Does anyone know of any? That's the main benefit of rooting for me.
I've been rooting and ROMing since the HTC Hero. I used to chase nightlies, kernels, new homescreen every day.... all looking to make slow phones faster and more useable.
Phone hardware is actually pretty stellar now, especially this one.
So all I do is root the stock rom, install ad block and Viper4android.
Being able to update firmware from the manufacturer OTA and maintain root with just a few clicks is the best thing since sliced bread for me.
Android manufacturers have finally started adding things to their stock launchers and builds that now make some mods and rooting and obsolete.
But Instill use it to customize my Waze map colors and Adaway. Otherwise, no reason and been thinking of jumping to the new Galaxy S11 plus when it comes out. Will see.
I root for Viper, to try custom kernels and to mod various visual aspects of OOS. You do lose HD quality Netflix and Prime video but I rarely watch them so its worth it for me.
Sab3elbromba said:
Could you list the ones you use or would root to use, I'm also tempted to root but don't really see a big benefit, maybe you can change my mind
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For me, I root for substratum, xposed edge, exi for SwiftKey, adaway, custom kernels, (magisk) roms, viper4android, probably a few more but that's just off the top of my head. Also, not the person you replied to.
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You should root you don't loose anything
And i overclocked the phone like crazy fast,
There are many benefits for rooting
I'm not rooting this time cause I dont want to lose the stable system that I have. I like its last of battery and I am okay with the speed of the phone. I think I will pass rooting this time
Adaway, viper4android, google dailer with call screen, downclocking the cpu, getting rid of all unnecessary apps and background processes. Aux camera's in gcams. And i have gpay and banking apps still working....

Considering rooting and i have some questions

Hey guys im considering rooting my op6.. i was wondering how stable rooting is now? Ive rooted my previous phones (nexus 5,5x and 6p) but they would end up breaking, bricking, dying at >30% battery or all sorts of other BS... i know that those phones were known for having serious problems though and they were giving refunds or something a while back for them or something. Does anyone have any bs like this now? im not sure how much rooting has changed in the past 2 or 3 years.
also my main reason for rooting is so i can use v4a, can i use this without root these days and also ive heard that its had problems functioning on oneplus phones so is it working good?
and is there any other magisk mods that are worth getting?
is substratum stable now or does it still break all the time with updates and just at random times?
thanks guys
ItsMason said:
Hey guys im considering rooting my op6.. i was wondering how stable rooting is now? Ive rooted my previous phones (nexus 5,5x and 6p) but they would end up breaking, bricking, dying at >30% battery or all sorts of other BS... i know that those phones were known for having serious problems though and they were giving refunds or something a while back for them or something. Does anyone have any bs like this now? im not sure how much rooting has changed in the past 2 or 3 years.
also my main reason for rooting is so i can use v4a, can i use this without root these days and also ive heard that its had problems functioning on oneplus phones so is it working good?
and is there any other magisk mods that are worth getting?
is substratum stable now or does it still break all the time with updates and just at random times?
thanks guys
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I think that it is not root itself that leads to instability, it is what you do with it. If you start to use its power to mess with things you probably should not mess with - it will give you problems. Like I wouldn't recommend getting one of the battery-increasing, governor-modifying apps. In my experience my battery would always either stay the same or get worse. I tried updating adreno driver (for whatever reason) using a magisk module - got what I deserved - black screen. So I would recommended to get root, and just do what you need to do and then don't mess with it anymore.
I also had Nexus 6P and, unfortunately, it was just a poorly designed phone. Nothing to do with root
I do not know what v4a and substratum are, so hopefully someone will come in to clear things up
No, V4A isn't available without root. For substratum, I haven't had any problems with it. If I did, it's mostly on the theme side, not on substratum itself. However, I've moved from substratum to Swift Installer just because of how much simpler it is.
For root, utilize it only when you need it, and use it as minimal as possible especially if the phone you are going to root is your daily driver. Do not use any modifications that promise better performance or battery life. You are already using OnePlus 6, you won't need any of those.

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Hey, haven't had a rooted phone in a long while (Pixel 2?). So now that I am once again, just wondering what, if any, magisk modules and the like you all are using. V4A used to be pretty big but seems hot or miss for some users. All I've got going on is substratum lol. Help me get back into the thick of things.
PS, running Paranoid Android if that means anything.

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