Hey guys im considering rooting my op6.. i was wondering how stable rooting is now? Ive rooted my previous phones (nexus 5,5x and 6p) but they would end up breaking, bricking, dying at >30% battery or all sorts of other BS... i know that those phones were known for having serious problems though and they were giving refunds or something a while back for them or something. Does anyone have any bs like this now? im not sure how much rooting has changed in the past 2 or 3 years.
also my main reason for rooting is so i can use v4a, can i use this without root these days and also ive heard that its had problems functioning on oneplus phones so is it working good?
and is there any other magisk mods that are worth getting?
is substratum stable now or does it still break all the time with updates and just at random times?
thanks guys
ItsMason said:
Hey guys im considering rooting my op6.. i was wondering how stable rooting is now? Ive rooted my previous phones (nexus 5,5x and 6p) but they would end up breaking, bricking, dying at >30% battery or all sorts of other BS... i know that those phones were known for having serious problems though and they were giving refunds or something a while back for them or something. Does anyone have any bs like this now? im not sure how much rooting has changed in the past 2 or 3 years.
also my main reason for rooting is so i can use v4a, can i use this without root these days and also ive heard that its had problems functioning on oneplus phones so is it working good?
and is there any other magisk mods that are worth getting?
is substratum stable now or does it still break all the time with updates and just at random times?
thanks guys
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I think that it is not root itself that leads to instability, it is what you do with it. If you start to use its power to mess with things you probably should not mess with - it will give you problems. Like I wouldn't recommend getting one of the battery-increasing, governor-modifying apps. In my experience my battery would always either stay the same or get worse. I tried updating adreno driver (for whatever reason) using a magisk module - got what I deserved - black screen. So I would recommended to get root, and just do what you need to do and then don't mess with it anymore.
I also had Nexus 6P and, unfortunately, it was just a poorly designed phone. Nothing to do with root
I do not know what v4a and substratum are, so hopefully someone will come in to clear things up
No, V4A isn't available without root. For substratum, I haven't had any problems with it. If I did, it's mostly on the theme side, not on substratum itself. However, I've moved from substratum to Swift Installer just because of how much simpler it is.
For root, utilize it only when you need it, and use it as minimal as possible especially if the phone you are going to root is your daily driver. Do not use any modifications that promise better performance or battery life. You are already using OnePlus 6, you won't need any of those.
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I tend to not like flashing ROMs as I don't need most of the features they offer and it becomes a big time waster. That's a benefit of Nexus is you get a good software experience out of the box. Without flashing ROMs, you don't have much need for things like TiBu, so I never even rooted my GNex and felt no need to. However I find myself interested in Xposed and some of the modules, namely XPrivacy and Greenify. If you have used these on past phones or in particular the Nexus 4, can you share your experiences and whether you recommend using them for the N5 once they are updated for it. How about security implications of being unlocked/rooted vs. not. What are the risks, and is it possible to relock the bootloader after obtaining root and keep root?
Thanks.
In regard to the original question in the post YES!!!! There are sooooo many things you can do with it. Like getting most to all of the customization features of custom ROM's without having to flash anything. With Greenify you can hibernate system apps with the module. Personally I hope it's up and running soon.
Yes.
there are already lots of documents/posts discussing rooting, and most of them give you clearer answers than i do..
to me, the only risk of rooting lies in the user's own (or lack of) skill level in mastering the rooted device..
Hi guys,
Just got a Nexus 5, had previously had a Samsung Galaxy S3.
My S3 was rooted, mainly to get rid of carrier bloatware and later because I wanted the Android 4.2 camera with Photosphere (my carrier was stuck on 4.1 until a few months ago).
As time wore on my device had numerous problems ultimately I felt related to rooting, I could never find ROM's with at least one major glitch. I ended up on a stock ROM for most the time with the only root change was flashing the 4.2 camera for Photosphere. Rooting in general I found caused more headaches than it was worth.
Anyways, I just got the Nexus 5 and have no real intention to root it. Since it's devoid of carrier bloatware and it runs super fast and responsive, just wondering what the real credible benefits to rooting it are? (and voiding warranty in the process)??
I don't see a lot of bloatware on the device, it's going to get constant updates from Google (as opposed to devices depandant on a carrier), I don't really need to overclock or mess with kernals on an already fast device.
Am I missing something here?
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Hi guys,
Just got a Nexus 5, had previously had a Samsung Galaxy S3.
My S3 was rooted, mainly to get rid of carrier bloatware and later because I wanted the Android 4.2 camera with Photosphere (my carrier was stuck on 4.1 until a few months ago).
As time wore on my device had numerous problems ultimately I felt related to rooting, I could never find ROM's with at least one major glitch. I ended up on a stock ROM for most the time with the only root change was flashing the 4.2 camera for Photosphere. Rooting in general I found caused more headaches than it was worth.
Anyways, I just got the Nexus 5 and have no real intention to root it. Since it's devoid of carrier bloatware and it runs super fast and responsive, just wondering what the real credible benefits to rooting it are? (and voiding warranty in the process)??
I don't see a lot of bloatware on the device, it's going to get constant updates from Google (as opposed to devices depandant on a carrier), I don't really need to overclock or mess with kernals on an already fast device.
Am I missing something here?
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Some people prefer different launchers or ROMs or to have access to certain functions (e.g. full backup) that require root. I've had my N5 for a month and haven't felt the need for it, so I'm still stock, locked, unrooted.
Xposed for me.
Most of the mods from Custom ROMs with the OTA updates from Google
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Xposed framework, Adaway, Lmt launcher, AppOps, AutomateIt Pro... Basicly everything to take control over your device.
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So.....ad blocking apps, minor tweaks, custom ROM's.
eh, not really compelling reasons for me I guess.
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So.....ad blocking apps, minor tweaks, custom ROM's.
eh, not really compelling reasons for me I guess.
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I wouldn't call them minor tweaks at all. There is an extremely wide variety of things that require your phone to be rooted. Often times an app will have limited functionality without root.
Please note that rooting your phone has nothing to do with using a custom rom. (You can in fact have a custom rom that is not rooted) Your problems with your prior phone were not in any way as a result of rooting the phone. If you had problems with the rom (sometimes custom roms have broken components) that has nothing to do with having root access.
At this point, I'd be willing to bet the most common usage of the phone at this point (amongst users of this site) are those who are rooted, but still using the stock rom. More and more users are migrating to the custom roms, but this is because rom development takes a bit of time with major releases.
AdAway is the main reason for me - I HATE adverts with a passion!
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So.....ad blocking apps, minor tweaks, custom ROM's.
eh, not really compelling reasons for me I guess.
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what you consider "minor tweaks", might be a big deal for someone else. Tastes differ.
i root because of 1 main reason, i paid for the device and i believe i should be able to have full control over it.
Another thing is, whatever i do with my phone, i always know what i'm doing and why i'm doing it, so the odds of screwing something up are very little. In case i do need to claim warranty, i know how to set everything back.
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So.....ad blocking apps, minor tweaks, custom ROM's.
eh, not really compelling reasons for me I guess.
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Ehm...why did you buy a nexus? Actually i don't even know what you are doing on xda. No offense but... Sound more like an iPhone kind a guy...
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It's up to you whether to root or not. Whatever problems you had with your previous device, it wasn't due to rooting persay, but rather what you did with root access. Rooting doesn't change anything, it just gives you administrative access to the operating system. Running un-rooted is analogous to accessing your desktop PC through a guest account. Rooting your Android device gives you full access like you have on your desktop as as an administrator.
He just wants to know the benefits. No need to harp on him for not wanting to root. If anything Nexus 5 has less reasons to be rooted then OEM phones.
bblzd said:
He just wants to know the benefits. No need to harp on him for not wanting to root. If anything Nexus 5 has less reasons to be rooted then OEM phones.
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Maybe someday he'll want to tether.
AT LEAST UNLOCK THE BOOTLOADER
Fastboot OEM Unlock
That easy, it'll erase EVERYTHING. So if you do it now you won't lose much. Do it later when you want to root (like my mother and myself) you'll have to unlock and lose everything.
If you ever need you return it just lock it again it's easy. And you won't lose ANYTHING for relocking it.
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Two words....
Franco kernel
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Titanium back up because I'm too lazy to reinstall all of my apps on my previous device.
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Not much reason to if your main use is as a "daily driver".
Mine is rooted mainly due to needing to use it for development work related to my job, but ad blocking and several xposed modules would require root anyways. That and I just can't help but mess with stuff like CPU frequency/voltage settings, etc.
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Two words....
Franco kernel
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I second this.
I was previously on Galaxy S2 rooted. I'd tested some custom roms like chamaleon, cm, but at last, what i realized that I needed wasn't a lot of new features i only wanted a good battery performance and a fc and random reboots free phone.
So I returned to stock roms with the more stock-like rooted kernel with Xposed and some additions. At last I got a good battery performance to keep the phone full day without charging.
Now that my N5 is with me for about 6 or 7 weeks I don't need rooting, modding ... nothing. The performance for my daily use is about 30 hours between charges with almost 3 hours with screen on.
That is all I need!
And for backups (i've payed for titanium backup app for my S2) now I use ADB from command line and it's enought for me
Also, the Nexus in this conditions hasn't hanged yet.
It spent more than 350 hours until I decided to change to Dart and I had to restart the phone. this is much better than my old S2 that needed two or three weekly reboots even with stock rom.
So, i'm very happy with my non-rooted N5 but if I need to root it in the near future it will be not a problem to me doing it.
I use it for Titanium Backup myself, whose backups I periodically have uploaded to Box.com. Obviously it's there for when I want to change phone and want to restore app data, especially for game saves, but you also never know if your phone is going to malfunction and you have to wipe or get lost/stolen. I think it's pretty useful to have an app that automatically takes care of backing up your data for you.
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http://lifehacker.com/top-10-reasons-to-root-your-android-phone-1079161983
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Hi all,
I am enamored by the Pixel 2 for the camera, general size and clean android experience. I am coming from a Moto X (2013) DE, which I have been using for almost three years with no complaints. I am on Verizon GFUDP, am unlocked, rooted and using Xposed framework. I use the phone for tethering quite often. I don't generally use custom ROMs,; once I am setup and got everything running nice, I stop playing around with the phone and just use it.
That said, I am ready to upgrade and still want an unlockable, rootable device, which has a really good camera and will allow me to tether at will. My thought is to purchase the Pixel 2 through Google. I see that there has been some bumpiness in the road to root success, and I am wondering if this device will eventually (if it's already not) become stable enough to do what I want without a lot of fooling with it, or fear of accidentally "bricking", or other issues down the road.
So in the big picture, do you feel that the Pixel 2 can be set up, forgotten about, and just used, as I describe above, or do you think that the device will need to be tweaked on a regular basis? If so, do you have any recommendations of devices which better fit the parameters listed above?
Thanks in advance!
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Hi all,
I am enamored by the Pixel 2 for the camera, general size and clean android experience. I am coming from a Moto X (2013) DE, which I have been using for almost three years with no complaints. I am on Verizon GFUDP, am unlocked, rooted and using Xposed framework. I use the phone for tethering quite often. I don't generally use custom ROMs,; once I am setup and got everything running nice, I stop playing around with the phone and just use it.
That said, I am ready to upgrade and still want an unlockable, rootable device, which has a really good camera and will allow me to tether at will. My thought is to purchase the Pixel 2 through Google. I see that there has been some bumpiness in the road to root success, and I am wondering if this device will eventually (if it's already not) become stable enough to do what I want without a lot of fooling with it, or fear of accidentally "bricking", or other issues down the road.
So in the big picture, do you feel that the Pixel 2 can be set up, forgotten about, and just used, as I describe above, or do you think that the device will need to be tweaked on a regular basis? If so, do you have any recommendations of devices which better fit the parameters listed above?
Thanks in advance!
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It should be good in the long run. In my personal experience after using a lot of ROM's/kernels/mods since 2011 I would say the max your needs would come to is getting a custom kernel. With no disrespect to the developers who have worked on providing great roms throughout the years, google has really developed 8.0/8.1 into a completely viable solution that till now has not got me to even consider rooting the device to get some custom features on it.
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It should be good in the long run. In my personal experience after using a lot of ROM's/kernels/mods since 2011 I would say the max your needs would come to is getting a custom kernel. With no disrespect to the developers who have worked on providing great roms throughout the years, google has really developed 8.0/8.1 into a completely viable solution that till now has not got me to even consider rooting the device to get some custom features on it.
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As I said, as long as I can get the tethering function, I am pretty much good to go. Do I need a custom kernel for that?
amajamar said:
As I said, as long as I can get the tethering function, I am pretty much good to go. Do I need a custom kernel for that?
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Afaik just rooting and getting an app designed for that should be fine I guess. It's not something I know since we don't have that issue with carriers on that front
amajamar said:
As I said, as long as I can get the tethering function, I am pretty much good to go. Do I need a custom kernel for that?
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As far as I'm aware you can achieve this with Magisk root and a Magisk module.
Buy Pixel 2, unlock bootloader before you set up the phone (get the factory reset out of the way), then just use it as-is indefinitely until you find you need something that only root can provide. If that's the case, then install Magisk, and keep on rolling.
One of the main reasons I bought Pocophone is due to XDA support. Never have I used a smartphone without unlock and root.
I could not wait for trying all those roms and kernels out there. I used all those Magisk and Xposed modules. Always trying many tweaks and tools. It was more of an addiction.
But using Pocophone a few days changed my mind. It is fast, smooth and battery lasts long without applying tons of tweaks. MIUI is great as well. It offers solid app controlling features. I have used tons of roms and do not see the need for replacing MIUI. Why use others when MIUI is very decent?
I know I can still root it, tweak it, make it better but I do not see the point as it is already superb. If it weren't those banking apps, I might have decided to unlock & root just for the sake of it but what would be the point then? It would just cause unnecessary complications with banking apps.
So I decided to use it as it is. Not even unlock. But man, it sure feels strange as I am new to this.
Same here, I used to geek around with my previous Oneplus phone, but with this Pocophone I've also decided to keep it as it is, and try to use it as long I as can, and only when they will stop updating it, then I'll look around for some ROM with newer Android version, but for now l'm fine with the MIUI ROM and the Gcam app
It all depends on your usage.
If you want privacy you have to root and install a custom ROM.
But if you like getting spied 24h from many companies at once, then you can stay as you want.
What to say ... if you're happy, that's what matters
I am using MIUI with few modifications ([ROM] [PIE 9.0] [MIUI] AMBASADII POCOPHONE F1 [v1.5.2] [03.02.2019]) is the beta version of the official MIUI rom, I use modified kernel(Sphynx) to get access to my external HDDs, I have no problems with bank apps, whatsapp among others as others complain, so I'm happy and I own MIUI that I love very much, with the resources I need.
Rommco05 said:
Spying everywhere
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If you die you finally won't have spy hardware placed besides you.
Rommco05 said:
would say, enjoy life. I personally don't care about spying me. I not need anything to hide... if Xiaomi or Huawei or Google want to know what I like and what not, no drama. Dont think so they want my money or naked photos... Do what you want to do
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It's not only about your likings. It's about your personality, your psychological situation, your health and there is also about the things your children would concern in future. It's like getting profiled in many ways.
You are just looking at the basic things, but big companies data mining allows much more than that.
What's up with banking apps and the Poco F1? I don't get it. .
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What's up with banking apps and the Poco F1? I don't get it. .
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What's there to not get it? Banking apps detect unlock and root then FC. It is not specific to Poco F1 but with other phones I've used, the need for unlock & root was greater than losing functionality of banking apps periodically.
I used to root and custom ROM when I was young.
Now that I'm old. I just prefer stable official ROM.
Besides, custom ROM is a software cant make the processor , ram, storage , optimization improvement that's so great that deserve the mod.
If u want something better and faster , get the latest hardware .
Too many custom rom . U never know which 1 is good or stable till u try it all
Well this is new age
If you said were true, then why would there be robust custom development in the first place? Why would kids ask which kernel and rom reach 300k antutu with 12-hour battery life?
You should try if you are free. It's not like in the old days wherein rooting is hard and not as worth it as now. Plus, MIUI is a giant bloated spyware.
I know your feel bro.
My 72 hour wait is done, so I can now unlock. In fact, I could have done it over a day ago, but I've sort of just thought.. What's the point, do I really feel like doing this again?
I probably will unlock and maybe root eventually, but I'm currently on the fence right now. It used to be exciting when I was younger, but now I'm not really sure.
4K2K said:
One of the main reasons I bought Pocophone is due to XDA support. Never have I used a smartphone without unlock and root.
I could not wait for trying all those roms and kernels out there. I used all those Magisk and Xposed modules. Always trying many tweaks and tools. It was more of an addiction.
But using Pocophone a few days changed my mind. It is fast, smooth and battery lasts long without applying tons of tweaks. MIUI is great as well. It offers solid app controlling features. I have used tons of roms and do not see the need for replacing MIUI. Why use others when MIUI is very decent?
I know I can still root it, tweak it, make it better but I do not see the point as it is already superb. If it weren't those banking apps, I might have decided to unlock & root just for the sake of it but what would be the point then? It would just cause unnecessary complications with banking apps.
So I decided to use it as it is. Not even unlock. But man, it sure feels strange as I am new to this.
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I would suggest that you try xiaomi.eu rom, It has all the the things that make miui good and removes the bad (system adds,etc) and adds some extra features only available in china versions of miui (AI preloading).
I am still on stock. I haven't used stock roms till now and this a new experience to me. The main thing i rooted in my earlier phones was to install a modified hosts file to block those adverts. Now I have AdGuard i do not feel the need for root. But still when the official support end I will root and go for custom rom .
Same thing happened to me, first with the Mi A2 and now with the poco which replaced that one. Haven't felt the need to even root them and doing it for the lols doesn't cut it anymore. You value your time more as you get older (and have less time to do meaningless crap like this) so I'd just rather have a phone that works. Every time I've gone into custom ROMs in the past they've never been quite stable, there's always been something or some annoying thing that has made me constantly switch between ROMs with all the bs that goes into that.
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If you die you finally won't have spy hardware placed besides you.
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I haven't unlocked or rooted.
I use on-line banking apps as well that detect rooted phone so stop working.
Previous phones I've rooted and unlocked used custom roms and you spend more time updating configuring backing up than you do using it as a phone.
Life is short time is pressuse I've got more important things to do.
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I haven't unlocked or rooted.
I use on-line banking apps as well that detect rooted phone so stop working.
Previous phones I've rooted and unlocked used custom roms and you spend more time updating configuring backing up than you do using it as a phone.
Life is short time is pressuse I've got more important things to do.
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If you don't care about privacy, then it is ok to stay unrooted.
I use banking apps with custom rom, without any problems.
Good for you my banks block them and I've got better things to do with my life than trying to get round them blocking custom ROMs.
Thats exactly what i thought. Never had a MIUI phone before and i was impressed with how smooth and stable the miui skin is. but i said **** it and installed Pixel Experience. Never in my life ever again am i going to switch back to MIUI. You have to give one custom rom a shot. Trust me u wont regret it
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Thats exactly what i thought. Never had a MIUI phone before and i was impressed with how smooth and stable the miui skin is. but i said **** it and installed Pixel Experience. Never in my life ever again am i going to switch back to MIUI. You have to give one custom rom a shot. Trust me u wont regret it
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What is so special about Pixel Experience compared MIUI?
I have used Pixel Experience with a different phone but did not find it interesting. I preferred other roms like AICP and RR.
Hey, haven't had a rooted phone in a long while (Pixel 2?). So now that I am once again, just wondering what, if any, magisk modules and the like you all are using. V4A used to be pretty big but seems hot or miss for some users. All I've got going on is substratum lol. Help me get back into the thick of things.
PS, running Paranoid Android if that means anything.