I've used a Kindle Fire and a Nook Tablet. I'm thinking about purchasing a Tab 7.0 Plus, but I'm wondering if anyone with experience with either the Nook or Fire can comment on how the screen compares on the 7.0+, especially with regards to the level of glare. I found the Fire has significantly more glare than the NT did, to the point of being significantly less usable in places with overhead lighting.
I imagine the 7.7's Super AMOLED display would improve on things a bit, but who knows when that'll arrive and how much more it'll cost..
Thanks.
I had a Nook Tablet. Returned it, and got the Plus. The screen is great. There's definitely more glare than the nook, buy I think it's less than the fire. I think a screen protector would make it perfect.
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It may not be officially IPS but much much better than the A100!
does the 7 plus have a AMOLED Screen?
No, the 7 Plus uses PLS LCD developed by Samsung. It is quite similar to IPS (iPad, Asus Transformer) in terms of viewing angles. The Tab 7.7 is supposed to be the first tablet with AMOLED screen, but will unlikely be available in the U.S. due to the ongoing patent war between Samsung and Apple.
abszer0 said:
No, the 7 Plus uses PLS LCD developed by Samsung. It is quite similar to IPS (iPad, Asus Transformer) in terms of viewing angles. The Tab 7.7 is supposed to be the first tablet with AMOLED screen, but will unlikely be available in the U.S. due to the ongoing patent war between Samsung and Apple.
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Have seen the 7.7 offered on a couple overseas websites. Priced from around $600-$750! Not real sure an extra .7" and AMOLED would justify such a price difference.
as much as I want a super amoled screen. This screen good for the price, that being said, my nexus Spoiled me because of the great contrast of blacks. This screen is nice at 50% brightness and the angles are pretty good. I am wtill considering a anti glare screen protector, glare is more apparent in LCD than Amoled buts its no mirror at least. 100% brightness is beautiful just bye bye battery
I checked out the 10.1, 8.9 and the 7.0 at bestbuy and the 7.0 screen is underwhelming. In terms of brightness and vividness, it seems dim compared to the 10.1 and 8.9 and the lack of sharpness is evident.
I had the original galaxy tab and the 7.0's performance was disappointing. It felt the same as my old tab. Lagging and stuttering here and there. If anything the 10.1 and the 8.9 felt much snappier and smoother. The 7.0 had trouble keeping connected to the wifi, and actually kept turning itself off and on again, not just disconnecting. The 7.0 is not the guts of the other tabs in a smaller package, which was what I was hoping for. But it seems they cut corners inside as well. The screen is also less responsive to touch. I found myself continually re-tapping the screen.
I'm not saying that the 7.0 is a bad tab, but compared to the 10.1 and 8.9, it felt sluggish and the screen felt lacking in many ways. Both brightness and touch response. At $399 right now it is not worth it imo.
I played a lot with the 8.9 and the 10.1 and the tegra 2 seemed more sluggish than my 7 plus. 7 plus is a beast in 7 inch form.
The 7 plus is a beast indeed. Comparing it to the Asus Transformer which I sold to get the Galaxy 7 Plus is a very noticeable in performance increase. Plays media with no delays or lag. It can play 1080p flash from YouTube through the browser. Try that on a Tegra 2 Tablet.
Compared to the Tab7 which I traded in, the 7+ is brighter and I have no problems with viewing angles.
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I checked out the 10.1, 8.9 and the 7.0 at bestbuy and the 7.0 screen is underwhelming. In terms of brightness and vividness, it seems dim compared to the 10.1 and 8.9 and the lack of sharpness is evident.
I had the original galaxy tab and the 7.0's performance was disappointing. It felt the same as my old tab. Lagging and stuttering here and there. If anything the 10.1 and the 8.9 felt much snappier and smoother. The 7.0 had trouble keeping connected to the wifi, and actually kept turning itself off and on again, not just disconnecting. The 7.0 is not the guts of the other tabs in a smaller package, which was what I was hoping for. But it seems they cut corners inside as well. The screen is also less responsive to touch. I found myself continually re-tapping the screen.
I'm not saying that the 7.0 is a bad tab, but compared to the 10.1 and 8.9, it felt sluggish and the screen felt lacking in many ways. Both brightness and touch response. At $399 right now it is not worth it imo.
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The original 7.0 is a different beast entirely when making comparison to the 7.0+ IMO. Question.....was the 7.0+ you were trying the display at BB? If so, I've would not use a display to judge any tab really. Those devices have been at the mercy of fingers that may/may not know what they're doing and could well have whacked it around a bit (metaphorically speaking). Maybe it's just me but actually getting a device and using it right out of the box as I would use the device is really the best way to judge. Any that's any device really.
dds517 said:
I checked out the 10.1, 8.9 and the 7.0 at bestbuy and the 7.0 screen is underwhelming. In terms of brightness and vividness, it seems dim compared to the 10.1 and 8.9 and the lack of sharpness is evident.
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10.1 and 8.9 all use pls lcd, which is same as 7.0 plus. I also want to know how it does for comparing to kindle fire nook tablet and asus transformer.
dds517 said:
I checked out the 10.1, 8.9 and the 7.0 at bestbuy and the 7.0 screen is underwhelming. In terms of brightness and vividness, it seems dim compared to the 10.1 and 8.9 and the lack of sharpness is evident.
I had the original galaxy tab and the 7.0's performance was disappointing. It felt the same as my old tab. Lagging and stuttering here and there. If anything the 10.1 and the 8.9 felt much snappier and smoother. The 7.0 had trouble keeping connected to the wifi, and actually kept turning itself off and on again, not just disconnecting. The 7.0 is not the guts of the other tabs in a smaller package, which was what I was hoping for. But it seems they cut corners inside as well. The screen is also less responsive to touch. I found myself continually re-tapping the screen.
I'm not saying that the 7.0 is a bad tab, but compared to the 10.1 and 8.9, it felt sluggish and the screen felt lacking in many ways. Both brightness and touch response. At $399 right now it is not worth it imo.
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I hope you're not saying that the 7.0 Plus is worse than the 10.1 and 8.9 from a performance standpoing and you're simply referring to the original 7" Tab. Because if it's the former, you're just wrong. The Exynos processor in the 7.0 Plus is significantly better from a benchmarking and usability standpoint than anything that is Tegra 2. I have both the 10.1 and the 7.0 Plus in my household and the 10 collects dust its so sluggish compared to the 7.0 Plus.
Pretty sure anyone who has used both will agree with me...I really am perplexed at what you experienced if you say the 7.0 Plus is worse. It's abnormal...we'll leave it at that.
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I hope you're not saying that the 7.0 Plus is worse than the 10.1 and 8.9 from a performance standpoing and you're simply referring to the original 7" Tab. Because if it's the former, you're just wrong. The Exynos processor in the 7.0 Plus is significantly better from a benchmarking and usability standpoint than anything that is Tegra 2. I have both the 10.1 and the 7.0 Plus in my household and the 10 collects dust its so sluggish compared to the 7.0 Plus.
Pretty sure anyone who has used both will agree with me...I really am perplexed at what you experienced if you say the 7.0 Plus is worse. It's abnormal...we'll leave it at that.
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I'm just saying what I experienced from using both tablets at bestbuy. This is not based on quadrant scores or other benchmarks, but simply using the tablet. There was noticeable stuttering and lag on both tablets, but noticed it on the 7.0plus more occasionally. There is a browser brightness glitch. The wifi on it was glitchy as well and the screen seemed to lack touch responsiveness. If you go to a white screen you will also notice vignetting [darkening] on the long sides of the screen.
I know the exynos processor is better than the tegra2, but hardware alone doesn't make a tablet better or worse. There is a big difference between all the 10.1 tablets that use the tegra2 processor. Some suffer with video playback while others have a smoother ui's and so on. So just basing the usability on the processor alone doesn't work. And if you read on other galaxy 7.0 plus forums there are many bugs that people have been reporting.
Don't get me wrong, I want to get this tablet and have tried it out at different bestbuy's and even factory resetting them. I had the original galaxy tab and it wasn't without it's problems. But things like wifi glitchyness seems like a big issue.
I have a 7.0+ side by side with the Kindle now. The screen on the 7.0+ is ever so slightly less reflective, but not really enough to make any meaningful difference. I don't have the Nook Tablet on hand to compare with that, but I'd guess the Nook is better as that was a noticeable difference when I compared to the Fire.
On the upside, good hardware, and Netflix and Youtube are both in HD vs the Fire's SD..
Still deciding whether to keep it.. honeycomb has a lot of annoyances that bother me.
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I'm just saying what I experienced from using both tablets at bestbuy. This is not based on quadrant scores or other benchmarks, but simply using the tablet. There was noticeable stuttering and lag on both tablets, but noticed it on the 7.0plus more occasionally. There is a browser brightness glitch. The wifi on it was glitchy as well and the screen seemed to lack touch responsiveness. If you go to a white screen you will also notice vignetting [darkening] on the long sides of the screen.
I know the exynos processor is better than the tegra2, but hardware alone doesn't make a tablet better or worse. There is a big difference between all the 10.1 tablets that use the tegra2 processor. Some suffer with video playback while others have a smoother ui's and so on. So just basing the usability on the processor alone doesn't work. And if you read on other galaxy 7.0 plus forums there are many bugs that people have been reporting.
Don't get me wrong, I want to get this tablet and have tried it out at different bestbuy's and even factory resetting them. I had the original galaxy tab and it wasn't without it's problems. But things like wifi glitchyness seems like a big issue.
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From what you're saying I see simple explanations for a lot of it:
Lacking brightness/brightness glitch: LCD power saving mode
Unsharp screen: Movie color mode, which also blurs the image slightly
Lag: Apps running in the background? Using Market, which seems to stutter on everything for absolutely no reason?
WiFi issues: ?????? Mine's never had any such issue
dds517 said:
I'm just saying what I experienced from using both tablets at bestbuy. This is not based on quadrant scores or other benchmarks, but simply using the tablet. There was noticeable stuttering and lag on both tablets, but noticed it on the 7.0plus more occasionally. There is a browser brightness glitch. The wifi on it was glitchy as well and the screen seemed to lack touch responsiveness. If you go to a white screen you will also notice vignetting [darkening] on the long sides of the screen.
I know the exynos processor is better than the tegra2, but hardware alone doesn't make a tablet better or worse. There is a big difference between all the 10.1 tablets that use the tegra2 processor. Some suffer with video playback while others have a smoother ui's and so on. So just basing the usability on the processor alone doesn't work. And if you read on other galaxy 7.0 plus forums there are many bugs that people have been reporting.
Don't get me wrong, I want to get this tablet and have tried it out at different bestbuy's and even factory resetting them. I had the original galaxy tab and it wasn't without it's problems. But things like wifi glitchyness seems like a big issue.
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You can NEVER trust a demo unit...that's a fact. I've had two GT7+s in my house and both are significantly faster and usable than the two 10.1s I've had. Yes, the brightness bug in the browser is annoying (switched to Firefox and voila, gone) and my first GT7+ had the SOD bug, but other than that, the GT7+ performs significantly better than the 10.1 doing the same things I always do.
I've yet to see any of the other stuff you're speaking about...wifi glitchy? Mine stays connected all the time and switches to the correct hotspot when I use my phone, my work connection or my home...so not sure what you mean.
And about the screen, I agree with CPTN above me...bet it was in Movie mode, dulling the colors.
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From what you're saying I see simple explanations for a lot of it:
Lacking brightness/brightness glitch: LCD power saving mode
Unsharp screen: Movie color mode, which also blurs the image slightly
Lag: Apps running in the background? Using Market, which seems to stutter on everything for absolutely no reason?
WiFi issues: ?????? Mine's never had any such issue
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I've tested the tab with the power saving mode off and and the color on standard.
As the member above said there is a browser glitch. There is a post on this and other forums about wifi being weak and even not connecting to certain routers. If you have both the 10.1 and 7.0, can you do a internet speed test on 'speedtest.net' and post your results? And did you guys update the firmware at all? I'm thinking the newest firmware update might have fixed some of the issues.
I haven't had any issues with wifi, and no apparent adjustment in sensitivity whether or not I hold the bottom left side as some reported.
I had a chance to compare with my a family member's Nook Tablet again side by side (also with the Kindle Fire again). It's pretty much equally as reflective as the Fire, perhaps a hair better but not significant.
The Nook Tablet is much better than both -- I think a big part of why the Nook Tablet is better when it comes to glare is that not only does it reflect less, but the reflected background area seems smaller. That is, if I hold both the Tab and the NT up in front of me, I can see most of the room behind me on the Tab, but on the NT I mostly see my own head. The reflection of my head fills a larger proportion of the screen, which in turn means less reflection of walls, overhead lights etc is caught. I think this is what makes it easier to find a glare free viewing angle.
The result is that when watching videos on the Fire or Tab, even during scenes that aren't particularly dark, I'm distracted by reflections, whereas on the NT only notice them on the darkest scenes.
The hardware is damn nice though.
Hello,
I just switched from Note 3 to Huawei P8 Max and very happy with it, screen is enormous. I love it. But I can't but notice that it has lesser frame rate when you scroll.
Somewhat irritating when you scroll the text. It becomes little bit blurry.
NOTE 3 considerable less so. Of course it can't compare to 90hz and higher desktop screens.
My question is, how can I overclock my screen a little bit and if needed my CPU ?
I don't pay any games on it, strictly videos and reading on the web.
Thank you for your suggestions.
You can try Rom toolbox if you're rooted. Not too sure whether it needs custom kernel to overclock but no harm trying.
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Union138 said:
Hello,
I just switched from Note 3 to Huawei P8 Max and very happy with it, screen is enormous. I love it. But I can't but notice that it has lesser frame rate when you scroll.
Somewhat irritating when you scroll the text. It becomes little bit blurry.
NOTE 3 considerable less so. Of course it can't compare to 90hz and higher desktop screens.
My question is, how can I overclock my screen a little bit and if needed my CPU ?
I don't pay any games on it, strictly videos and reading on the web.
Thank you for your suggestions.
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if you are rooted download root booster pro from google play and boot it
Union138 said:
Hello,
I just switched from Note 3 to Huawei P8 Max and very happy with it, screen is enormous. I love it. But I can't but notice that it has lesser frame rate when you scroll.
Somewhat irritating when you scroll the text. It becomes little bit blurry.
NOTE 3 considerable less so. Of course it can't compare to 90hz and higher desktop screens.
My question is, how can I overclock my screen a little bit and if needed my CPU ?
I don't pay any games on it, strictly videos and reading on the web.
Thank you for your suggestions.
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Is it really that bad/noticeable, like for wathing video's/games etc?
So I have been playing around with my new 4.7 and immediately noticed that, in comparison to my Samsung S3, slow scrolling with the
thumb on the display causes jerky movement, like a couple of pixels at the time. This looks horrible in comparison to the S3 where every
motion seems perfectly fluid. Has anyone else noticed this and why isn't it implemented the right way? Seems to be an easy fix.
Does the 5.5 suffer from this issue as well?
Note: It's not lag. It's like there aren't enough frames for it to look smooth. This happens during scrolling in webpages and settings etc.
It seems they totally turned off this little project from back in the day:
http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/G/google_project_butter.html
"Google Project Butter accomplished its “buttery smooth” responsiveness and “speed infusion” improvements via three main additions: triple buffering, which improves coordination and animation synchronization between the CPU, GPU and display; VSync, which improves graphical performance and increases frame rates to 60fps (frames per second); and touch responsiveness, which predicts a user’s upcoming actions of the screen in order to improve load times for those actions.:
No one willing to test?
Okay :good:
Mine does the same (4.7). But is not something that bother me. It is a cheap device after all.
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Mine does the same (4.7). But is not something that bother me. It is a cheap device after all.
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Thanks for your input. Whether or not the device is relatively 'cheap' shouldn't really matter, as it's a matter of frame rate and could
be easily tweaked through a software change.
Any input from 5.5 owners?
Got it 2 days ago, barely even used it, still waiting for unlocking permissions...
I believe it's just Temporary Burn at max brightness but I've never seen it be so obvious on literally ANY display before!!
The shadow you're seeing is caused by the Brightness Slider in dark mode, and can be recreated in less than 5 seconds, and goes away after 20 seconds
I read somewhere in the MIUI forums that it could be a software problem regarding MIUI 10/11's advanced display algorithms, but I highly doubt it as I know the system only changes the overall contrast based on lighting
I did multiple tests with dimming On/Off, and compared it to my Mi8 SE running some Xiaomi.eu MIUI 11 beta, it's a completely new problem on the Note 10
Please test it yourselves as well, I'm looking forward to detailed replies
Many thanks!!
I have mine by 2 months, mi note 10 with cc9 pro xiaomi eu rom, started noticing the same things latest 2 weeks ( you see it better in a dark enviroment ).
Max i reach is half brightness, can't stand more, so i can guarantee that is not because of max brightness as i've seen that happening even with just like barely readable brightness.
Reading mode and anti flicker don't help.
I can even assume that with anti flicker on ( that i always have ) is worse.
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The problem has gotten much worse, does anyone know who's manufacturing these for Xiaomi / Huawei?
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UPDATE:
The problem has gotten much worse, even the white text I'm typing right now in the XDA Labs app is leaving light shadows when I backspace, I'm %99 sure that I have a factory deflect, and no warranty, so I actually might end up replacing the screen in a few months if officially stated fixed versions become available
Does anyone know who's manufacturing these for Xiaomi / Huawei?
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Visionox manufacfure the display, not the usual Samsung xiaomi used for their oled. Samsung is prone to burn in too, every oled is, but it is clear that quality talking this display is inferior to the Samsung one's, never seen this kind of ghost burn in until this phone. Let's hope will always remain only a temporary burn one
This is unbelievable... even the Samsung Galaxy S5 mini has far superior image quality and calibration
I don't have any burn-in problems yet but I can agree with you about the calibration and quality issue. Even when I change it to warm or cold, I can't notice a big difference, and I don't really like the colors it shows. Most of the reviews say this phone has a great screen, I don't think they were lying but there must be a problem with the quality standards of the brand of the screen. My 3 years old S8 Plus shows better colors with its cracked screen, which is annoying.
There's an article saying that Sony's LCD screens can be overclocked to 120Hz. I was exited because high refresh rate screen is my second priority right after proccessor. Currently, Asus Zenfone 6 has all of the features I want:
- Headphone Jack (I drop OP7T out of my list because of this reason)
- Great Proccessor (Snapdragon 855)
- LCD screen (I prefer true color as my eyes hurt when I use AMOLED display unless I turn night mode on, which ruins the whole concept of vibrant and beautiful it provides. Also, no burn-in)
- Almost stock-Android (further more, Asus seems to be trying their best with their newest UI).
- Full screen display.
Is it possible to overclock the screen to 120Hz ? It has an LCD screen, similar to that of Sony, lower resolution is not a problem since I'm ok 1080 at the moment. If it's possible, this phone will destroy all last year Midrangers. Hope that you guys will answer!
From what I can deduce from the Proton Kernel post https://forum.xda-developers.com/ze.../kernel-zenfone-6-proton-kernel-v1-0-t3963948 it's maximum overclocking capabilities are 75Hz but most panels only manage 72Hz without artifacts according to the most recent changelog.