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Don't misunderstand. I like this phone very very much.
I have Note 2, and except the pen and battery, S4 is way better. However, these are too important for me to change to S4. Besides, I bought the S4 with 30% sale off, so I can have some profit from selling it. After using the phone for a week, here is my mini-review
Feel: A little bit angular, but still much better than S3 and Note 2. Feel quite gorgeous. However the side is a little bit iPhone-alike.
Screen:
- Brightness: Oh well, the maximum manual brightness is not as bright as my Note 2 (A Brighter Note app activated), but outdoor visibility is way better. Under sun light with auto brightness, white is much whiter (brighter), black under s much less blueish - mean darker. I can feel a little better in reflective level. I think most reviewers forget to turn automatic brightness on.
- Color: colors with Standard mode or Professional mode (AdobeRGB mode) are great, sometimes I prefer the formal, sometimes I prefer the latter (actually it's still a little bit over saturated compared to Note 2 - master sequence Perseus kernel, but I feel more pleasant with it. Black is, true black. Every AMOLED screen I had before is still bright in dark room, but not S4. Don't worry about ink spots or black spots, even there are some you cannot recognize, believe me,
- Viewing angle: better than Note 2, truely
Best screen I have ever had so far.
Heat and Battery: Oh well. It's quite hot with 3G browsing or benchmarking, but still bearable. Battery is quite good, at the middle between S3 and Note 2 (both with mature kernels, so battery of S4 will be greater later)
Camera Compared to Note 2: better white balance (a bit), similar color reproduction and saturation, much sharper (I like zooming and cropping, but for most it's not very easy to recognize), better in shooting moving objects (not as good as One). Night photos is much similar to Note 2 (brightness, color) but much less noise.
But I could not find outdoor visibility mode like Note 2, a minus point.
User experience: benchmark king in almost any area: 630 ms in Sunspider, 13k Quadrant, 28k Antutu, 40fps GLBenchmark, 2600 Browsermark, 3630 Geekbench 2,... (I recorded the best scores). It's quick like Usain Bolt, shooting a low-light photo 2-3 times faster than Note 2.
However, there are still a few strange hipcups in browsing (when zooming maximum and then scrolling) but I'm sure that it's software problem. But the browser is bad, really bad. No quick control and flash support (or I didn't find out how), tab-switching is a pain in the ass. No direct bookmark syncing from desktop chrome. I used Ocean Browser, much much much better (I recommend everyone uses this app)
Sound: The same speaker as Note 2, but better with amplifier.
I don't want to spend a lot for phones, so I decided to wait for Note 3, which is surely better than S4 in important areas (screen, camera, speed) or at least on par.
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Don't misunderstand. I like this phone very very much.
I have Note 2, and except the pen and battery, S4 is way better. However, these are too important for me to change to S4. Besides, I bought the S4 with 30% sale off, so I can have some profit from selling it. After using the phone for a week, here is my mini-review
Feel: A little bit angular, but still much better than S3 and Note 2. Feel quite gorgeous. However the side is a little bit iPhone-alike.
Screen:
- Brightness: Oh well, the maximum manual brightness is not as bright as my Note 2 (A Brighter Note app activated), but outdoor visibility is way better. Under sun light with auto brightness, white is much whiter (brighter), black under s much less blueish - mean darker. I can feel a little better in reflective level. I think most reviewers forget to turn automatic brightness on.
- Color: colors with Standard mode or Professional mode (AdobeRGB mode) are great, sometimes I prefer the formal, sometimes I prefer the latter (actually it's still a little bit over saturated compared to Note 2 - master sequence Perseus kernel, but I feel more pleasant with it. Black is, true black. Every AMOLED screen I had before is still bright in dark room, but not S4. Don't worry about ink spots or black spots, even there are some you cannot recognize, believe me,
- Viewing angle: better than Note 2, truely
Best screen I have ever had so far.
Heat and Battery: Oh well. It's quite hot with 3G browsing or benchmarking, but still bearable. Battery is quite good, at the middle between S3 and Note 2 (both with mature kernels, so battery of S4 will be greater later)
Camera Compared to Note 2: better white balance (a bit), similar color reproduction and saturation, much sharper (I like zooming and cropping, but for most it's not very easy to recognize), better in shooting moving objects (not as good as One). Night photos is much similar to Note 2 (brightness, color) but much less noise.
But I could not find outdoor visibility mode like Note 2, a minus point.
User experience: benchmark king in almost any area: 630 ms in Sunspider, 13k Quadrant, 28k Antutu, 40fps GLBenchmark, 2600 Browsermark, 3630 Geekbench 2,... (I recorded the best scores). It's quick like Usain Bolt, shooting a low-light photo 2-3 times faster than Note 2.
However, there are still a few strange hipcups in browsing (when zooming maximum and then scrolling) but I'm sure that it's software problem. But the browser is bad, really bad. No quick control and flash support (or I didn't find out how), tab-switching is a pain in the ass. No direct bookmark syncing from desktop chrome. I used Ocean Browser, much much much better (I recommend everyone uses this app)
Sound: The same speaker as Note 2, but better with amplifier.
I don't want to spend a lot for phones, so I decided to wait for Note 3, which is surely better than S4 in important areas (screen, camera, speed) or at least on par.
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Thank you for the review. Apart from benchmarking, does the phone tend to heat up a lot in normal use? Also, which variant of the S4 did you have, the snapdragon one or exynos?
How did you get 30% off?
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ilabs said:
Thank you for the review. Apart from benchmarking, does the phone tend to heat up a lot in normal use? Also, which variant of the S4 did you have, the snapdragon one or exynos?
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I9500 octa.
It's hotter than S3 and Note 2 in almost any case, but not much
cell128 said:
How did you get 30% off?
Sent from my SCH-I535 using xda app-developers app
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Special sale event in Vietnam where first 100 get 30%, second 100 get 20% and last 100 get 10% off
Yeah, I think if you're a Note user who enjoys the S Pen features and huge display as well as the incredible batt life then the GS4 isn't for you.
Your benchmarks are pretty much the same as mine, I also got the Octa beast
Quick question but now that there's Air View does the S-Pen still have any advantages over just using your fingers? Besides some people finding it easier to draw with the pen then by hand.
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Quick question but now that there's Air View does the S-Pen still have any advantages over just using your fingers? Besides some people finding it easier to draw with the pen then by hand.
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Yes. Watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vB7ydrYmOmc
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Yes. Watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vB7ydrYmOmc
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Ah so if I'm understanding correctly the S-Pen still works on other browsers and things that aren't supported by the normal air view with Samsung on stock browser?
Masonfield said:
Ah so if I'm understanding correctly the S-Pen still works on other browsers and things that aren't supported by the normal air view with Samsung on stock browser?
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There is no "dot" presenting the location of your finger, I think SS will update this feature soon.
hung2900 said:
I9500 octa.
It's hotter than S3 and Note 2 in almost any case, but not much
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This just makes me sad hope it doesn't get noticebly hot while using on wifi atleast......Was hoping they wouldve improved this by now.
I've been using mine on WiFi non stop with no major heating up for 5h32mins now, still got 55% batt.
POLO_i780 said:
I've been using mine on WiFi non stop with no major heating up for 5h32mins now, still got 55% batt.
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Is that the screen on time or the general use time?
POLO_i780 said:
I also got the Octa beast
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Snap bro, picked my 32gb Black Frost Octa from Vodacom in Durban :good:
hung2900 said:
I9500 octa.
It's hotter than S3 and Note 2 in almost any case, but not much
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They say the octa gets warmer then the snapdragon version
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They say the octa gets warmer then the snapdragon version
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2
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Maybe thats the issue samsung was having with the octa, overheating. I doubt you could overclock the octa much without it overheating.
prodigyX said:
Snap bro, picked my 32gb Black Frost Octa from Vodacom in Durban :good:
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How awesome is it??? Must say, Samsung spoilt us, most other regions got 16GB S600.
By the way, its Tsepz_011 from MyBB.
hung2900 said:
... outdoor visibility is way better. Under sun light with auto brightness, white is much whiter (brighter), black under s much less blueish - mean darker. I can feel a little better in reflective level. I think most reviewers forget to turn automatic brightness on...
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Glad to hear about this directly from users :victory:
The poor outdoor visibility and ultra-slow charging were the main problems that Samsung needed to fix before I switched from my iPhone.
day 2 of using it... trade in my s3... love it so much.. definitely not selling (i said the same thg for my s3 )
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Is that the screen on time or the general use time?
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probably general use time. I think that 5 and half hours of screen on time would be more than a dream for a smartphone.
I have downloaded this on my Netflix App Stranger Things 3 Ep1. I was using Xs Max prior to this. So when watching this episode I realised its too dark even in daylight scene. So I compared it to iPhone 8 Plus & Xs Max at the same scene & there was Night & Day Difference
No Matter whichever mode I selected the scene looked crap on Op7 pro ,Video Enhancer seemed to have no effect whatsoever.
No my question is ,Is That due to Hdr or screen is very much inferior? Or is it just the calibration done wrong by Oneplus.
If I root & flash custom kernel Will I be able to make it better?
Images attached are in full brightness on all the phones without any edits.
Even Lcd is better than Op7 Pro
Vs 8 plus its Nature Mode & Vs Xs Max its Srgb
I think its only yours. My colors are extremly colorful and sharp.
matze19999 said:
I think its only yours. My colors are extremly colorful and sharp.
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In general screen is vibrant & sharp but In videos when compared its not as bright as others
This is the screenshot taken of Comparison between the both from Pocket Now .See the colours, It's dull in Op7 Pro
The One Plus looks for realistic to me. The other phones seem blown out.
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The One Plus looks for realistic to me. The other phones seem blown out.
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Can we tweak this with custom kernel or custom rom like Havoc or Lineage OS
The 7 pro should get brighter then the 8 plus. Compare hdr videos on YouTube.
I noticed the note 9 gets brighter with more clarity in direct sunlight compared to the 7 pro. But the 7 pro istill gets plenty bright and overall I prefer its larger 90hz display. It's possible there could be some variation in displays between units. Only way to test yourself is compare it with another pro.
To me it simply looks like the 7 pro is dimmer, which is normal, and the calibration is different but that mostly depends on how you set it on both. If you're going from an XS Max to a 7 pro DO NOT expect a similar quality screen, apple has way stricter QC and have the best calibrated screens, probably cherry picked as well, it's just a phone that costs nearly twice as much as the other so no surprise. I don't mean the 7 pro is bad, I think it's better than the s10 plus if we leave brightness out of the equation, you just shouldn't expect it to be on par with the more expensive iphones, which are demonstrated to be the best on the market.
For Me Brightness is not an issue, It's just that the screen in the videos seem dull or less vibrant when compared at same brightness levels.It looks like its calibrated in such a way that it suppress colours.
Is it possible to change that with a custom kernel or roms like havoc have their own calibration?
I would have bought S10+ if they launched sd variant here,Exynos is just ridiculous
I have the OP 7 Pro and a friend with an iPhone XS Max and his gets brighter but he likes the looks (color) and sharpness better on the 7 Pro. The pro is more true color and you can punch up the saturation more if you like. I think I have my 7 Pro display set on advanced>Display P3 and the slider bar about 55-60% if you used the Cold at 0% and Warm at 100% so it's slightly toward the warm side from the half way mark of the slider. This gives the 7 Pro display a bit more of a richer color.
Forget about the 90hz, the 7 Pro is just full on ridiculously better then any other phone but the one that's 120hz (Asus or ROG phone I think) especially since you can just force 90hz all apps on the fly (JOnePlus Tool app in Play store) and really see very little battery drain differences.
There is a HBM (high brightness) app you can use. Not sure if you need to be rooted or not. No issues here. Screen is beautiful.
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I have downloaded this on my Netflix App Stranger Things 3 Ep1. I was using Xs Max prior to this. So when watching this episode I realised its too dark even in daylight scene. So I compared it to iPhone 8 Plus & Xs Max at the same scene & there was Night & Day Difference
No Matter whichever mode I selected the scene looked crap on Op7 pro ,Video Enhancer seemed to have no effect whatsoever.
No my question is ,Is That due to Hdr or screen is very much inferior? Or is it just the calibration done wrong by Oneplus.
If I root & flash custom kernel Will I be able to make it better?
Images attached are in full brightness on all the phones without any edits.
Even Lcd is better than Op7 Pro
Vs 8 plus its Nature Mode & Vs Xs Max its Srgb
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It's a netflix HDR problem, even in 4k TVs.
Try a non HDR movie or series.
I was disappointed as well, but seems like it's got nothing to do with OnePlus.
RISHI RAJ said:
I have downloaded this on my Netflix App Stranger Things 3 Ep1. I was using Xs Max prior to this. So when watching this episode I realised its too dark even in daylight scene. So I compared it to iPhone 8 Plus & Xs Max at the same scene & there was Night & Day Difference
No Matter whichever mode I selected the scene looked crap on Op7 pro ,Video Enhancer seemed to have no effect whatsoever.
No my question is ,Is That due to Hdr or screen is very much inferior? Or is it just the calibration done wrong by Oneplus.
If I root & flash custom kernel Will I be able to make it better?
Images attached are in full brightness on all the phones without any edits.
Even Lcd is better than Op7 Pro
Vs 8 plus its Nature Mode & Vs Xs Max its Srgb
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I was watching the same show on Netflix today and I thought it was bad to. It was daylight out, but was very hard to see. Way to dark. I'm rooted so I don't think that matters. Maybe it's just that recording or stream.
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I was watching the same show on Netflix today and I thought it was bad to. It was daylight out, but was very hard to see. Way to dark. I'm rooted so I don't think that matters. Maybe it's just that recording or stream.
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Can we tweak with a custom kernel that supports it? I'm not rooted but will root if this is possible
You've probably already tried this but try playing around with the different picture settings (Screen calibration).
Also maybe try toggling the video enhancer option as well.
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You've probably already tried this but try playing around with the different picture settings (Screen calibration).
Also maybe try toggling the video enhancer option as well.
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Or one simply *reads* the first post prior to answering :good:
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Or one simply *reads* the first post prior to answering :good:
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No need to be snarky about it.
I read *the* OP a couple days ago and didn't get a chance to respond until recently. I forgot some details of *the* troubleshooting steps and posted my response.
Replies like yours are why users end up feeling less inclined to try and help.
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I read your OP a couple days ago and didn't get a chance to respond until recently. I forgot some details of your troubleshooting steps and posted my response.
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Not my OP :good:
Helping without reading/refreshing is rather pointless
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Not my OP :good:
Helping without reading/refreshing is rather pointless
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Fixed
Regardless, I'll admit it's my mistake but still no need to be snarky about it.
I think with the alternative kernel is possible only to active the bright mode that push the nits at the max. I think is not possible to modify the contrast ecc... Like the s10+ video mode
Every year I upgrade to the latest S series device. But I end up getting bored and honestly want something different in between. I'm highly considering getting the one plus 7 pro because of the new 90hz 6.7 display . Anyone make the switch from the S10+ and regret it? I used to love the idea of rooting and custom roms so that might be a nice touch to keep me interested in the device. Just wanted some opinions, the note 10+ also has my attention because of ufs3.1 and the slightly tweaked cameras. Price isn't really a factor
I did and haven't looked back...
More freedom and less bloatware
Don't upgrade from S10+, because it's the same processor. Wait until next year to get a phone with a X55 5G modem (better than this year's X50 5G).
Since your asking in the op7pro forum most will say this is the best what ever there reasons. But I've had the device 2 times and bought times got rid of it... 90hz refresh is a gimmick, not realistic... I've own the s10 plus and it does not have that much bloatware and almost everything is uninstallable. I didn't like the one plus design,you can root but meh more problems the stability, cameras have improved since launch but still not up to par, good battery life, sound is decent. The s10 plus had everything you could want and if you get the exynos you can root if you want. (and don't let yourself be fooled by reviews of exynos not being as good as SD it's not true) I've used it and played the same games on both s10 plus and op7pro. My recent op7pro I traded it for a mate 20 pro 8/256 twilight.... All I can say is this is the best phone I have ever used, yes it does have a notch but I have never mind that sound can come out low but there's an app that fixes thatthing else just insane. It haves a 60hz refresh and it feels smoother that any other Android I've had.
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Since your asking in the op7pro forum most will say this is the best what ever there reasons. But I've had the device 2 times and bought times got rid of it... 90hz refresh is a gimmick, not realistic... I've own the s10 plus and it does not have that much bloatware and almost everything is uninstallable. I didn't like the one plus design,you can root but meh more problems the stability, cameras have improved since launch but still not up to par, good battery life, sound is decent. The s10 plus had everything you could want and if you get the exynos you can root if you want. (and don't let yourself be fooled by reviews of exynos not being as good as SD it's not true) I've used it and played the same games on both s10 plus and op7pro. My recent op7pro I traded it for a mate 20 pro 8/256 twilight.... All I can say is this is the best phone I have ever used, yes it does have a notch but I have never mind that sound can come out low but there's an app that fixes thatthing else just insane. It haves a 60hz refresh and it feels smoother that any other Android I've had.
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I agree 90Hz refresh is a gimmick. People experience a placebo-type effect, I think. The only worthwhile upgrade would come next year when X55 5G modems get used. The S10+ is fantastic, but I didn't buy it because of no bootloader unlock on US Snapdragon variants.
I bit the bullet and ordered one. Yes I realize it had the same basic specs, and I can live with the features I'll be losing. Worse case scenario I keep the S10+ and sell the 7 Pro. I'm praying the display is close to par with the AMOLED screen, and the larger screen size will be a bonus too. I'm expecting the software and the fluentness to impress me. Anyone know if there's a way to disable the volume slider though, not a fan of the physical slider.
90hz a gimmick? WTF? Yeh so are 120hz screens and 4k tv . You must be 1/100000 that can't notice the difference.
90hz IS ABSOLUTELY NOT a gimmick and every other phone to me looks painful after looking at amazing refresh rate of my phone. The 90hz is the real icing on top for this phone which is great in every single way. Great battery life which has been doing nothing but getting better with time due to the phone optimizing itself based on your usage. The screen is big and notch/ hole punch free and the sound is nice and loud while being crisp at the same time. And the camera is not the best but it's not disappointing either. I'm happy with it and I take a decent amount of pictures.
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90hz IS ABSOLUTELY NOT a gimmick and every other phone to me looks painful after looking at amazing refresh rate of my phone. The 90hz is the real icing on top for this phone which is great in every single way. Great battery life which has been doing nothing but getting better with time due to the phone optimizing itself based on your usage. The screen is big and notch/ hole punch free and the sound is nice and loud while being crisp at the same time. And the camera is not the best but it's not disappointing either. I'm happy with it and I take a decent amount of pictures.
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However, should you move from an S10+ to this
I'm not too sure about that. Unless it's an even trade or you throw in like 50 bucks towards it stay where you are.
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Since your asking in the op7pro forum most will say this is the best what ever there reasons. But I've had the device 2 times and bought times got rid of it... 90hz refresh is a gimmick, not realistic... I've own the s10 plus and it does not have that much bloatware and almost everything is uninstallable. I didn't like the one plus design,you can root but meh more problems the stability, cameras have improved since launch but still not up to par, good battery life, sound is decent. The s10 plus had everything you could want and if you get the exynos you can root if you want. (and don't let yourself be fooled by reviews of exynos not being as good as SD it's not true) I've used it and played the same games on both s10 plus and op7pro. My recent op7pro I traded it for a mate 20 pro 8/256 twilight.... All I can say is this is the best phone I have ever used, yes it does have a notch but I have never mind that sound can come out low but there's an app that fixes thatthing else just insane. It haves a 60hz refresh and it feels smoother that any other Android I've had.
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Just Compare Pes 2019 on high settings on both exynos & sd. You'll know the difference. Regarding 90 hz I can say that after using this Device If I scroll in App Drawer in my Xs Max I can literally see the icons stuttering or dragging.
Screen Doesn't gets as bright but it is comparable to iPhone on natural mode. I would suggest OP if he's using a SD S10 he should stick with it. Also I would suggest to Uninstall the Netflix app pre installed,If You Don't want dark videos
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90hz a gimmick? WTF? Yeh so are 120hz screens and 4k tv . You must be 1/100000 that can't notice the difference.
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https://youtu.be/7BuP4W5Cae4
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Apparently, running at 90Hz slightly decreases graphical performance on the OnePlus 7 Pro.
Don't switch from a S10 - you won't notice enough benefit.
Sure, having a screen with no notches or cutouts is nice; and yes, *some* things look better at 90Hz, but it kills your battery quicker, and actually, I don't really mind about scrolling smoothness in Chrome - I'd far rather like the extra refresh in all games (which you DON'T get right now).
Also, you'll loose wireless charging, IP68, and being honest, a bit of build quality. If you're really thinking of leaving the S10, how about going to the Note 10 instead?
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Don't switch from a S10 - you won't notice enough benefit.
Sure, having a screen with no notches or cutouts is nice; and yes, *some* things look better at 90Hz, but it kills your battery quicker, and actually, I don't really mind about scrolling smoothness in Chrome - I'd far rather like the extra refresh in all games (which you DON'T get right now).
Also, you'll loose wireless charging, IP68, and being honest, a bit of build quality. If you're really thinking of leaving the S10, how about going to the Note 10 instead?
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As someone who has tried both, there is a huge difference. The S10+ is a laughable phone compared to the OP7Pro. Scrolling looks laggy, apps open slower, worse game performance, worse thermals, Terrible standby drain, Ugly front camera, Slow fingerprint, broken Snapchat camera, etc. The list goes on and on
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I agree 90Hz refresh is a gimmick. People experience a placebo-type effect, I think. The only worthwhile upgrade would come next year when X55 5G modems get used. The S10+ is fantastic, but I didn't buy it because of no bootloader unlock on US Snapdragon variants.
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90hz gimmick. Placebo effect lmaoooo.... 90hz 120hz. Is the future. Processors are already fast enought and are limited by the 60hz hardware. What 90hz does is increase os fluidity(smoothness) by 50%. Now when i loom at my iphone xs max which suppost to be the smoothest phone around. It look jerky stuttery and not smooth.... Not because it is, is because of the 60hz limitation. Is the same that your car is really fast. Can beat most car on a race.... Now u demo a much faster car (50% faster). U will be so impress....that When u go back to ur car. U will feel it so slow.... Not because it is. Is because u demo a much faster car. After a few day of driving ur car u will then again see that ur car is fast. Same with 90hz 120hz
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90hz gimmick. Placebo effect lmaoooo.... 90hz 120hz. Is the future. Processors are already fast enought and are limited by the 60hz hardware. What 90hz does is increase os fluidity(smoothness) by 50%. Now when i loom at my iphone xs max which suppost to be the smoothest phone around. It look jerky stuttery and not smooth.... Not because it is, is because of the 60hz limitation. Is the same that your car is really fast. Can beat most car on a race.... Now u demo a much faster car (50% faster). U will be so impress....that When u go back to ur car. U will feel it so slow.... Not because it is. Is because u demo a much faster car. After a few day of driving ur car u will then again see that ur car is fast. Same with 90hz 120hz
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You need to compare apples to apples: the only meaningful comparison is the OnePlus 7 Pro to itself. For example, tell a friend to switch it 60Hz or 90Hz and not tell you which one; then, without checking settings, see if you can guess which is which.
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No it doesnt. There app not optimize for 90hz,. Just like benchmarking apps which even if un have 90hz will run the 3d games a 60hz... Now use the mod of forcing 90hz on everything. By the way. I get 9hour sot forcing 90hz all time and 1440p (qhd). I hear people complaining that it drain ur battery. Like if 90hz u will only get 2 hour sot. .. if 9hour sot with 90hz on is not good enough. I really know no what are people expecting
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You need to compare apples to apples: the only meaningful comparison is the OnePlus 7 Pro to itself. For example, tell a friend to switch it 60Hz or 90Hz and not tell you which one; then, without checking settings, see if you can guess which is which.
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This is absolutely correct. Anything else is like saying "Concorde is a faster plane than a spitfire" - they're NOT comparable!
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Arden144 said:
As someone who has tried both, there is a huge difference. The S10+ is a laughable phone compared to the OP7Pro. Scrolling looks laggy, apps open slower, worse game performance, worse thermals, Terrible standby drain, Ugly front camera, Slow fingerprint, broken Snapchat camera, etc. The list goes on and on
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I was unaware that Snapchat had dedicated cameras on either the S10+ *OR* the OnePlus 7 Pro. I stopped bothering to read after that statement!
I didn't like the s10+ and I switched to Op7 pro.
Another planet imho, I really enjoy this phone and I never miss my s10+, cameras too.
Exynos s10+ is garbage imho, really not such a good device as review tell.
OP7 pro beats/pair s10+ in everything in my daily use, and this is my first OnePlus phone...Never going back to Samsung honestly!
Sreen is so better on op7 pro in my opinion, never liked the s10+ screen because of reduced blue light filter.
Oh, and vibration. Dude, really? The vibration on op7 pro is gorgeous...
Warp charge destroy s10+ exynos charge time, and battery is similar but op7 pro doesn't consume so much on standby and when using camera.
My op7 pro never get hot when I'm using it.
Just some random thoughts...
Love this phone!
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Another positive OnePlus 7Pro review today...
jhofseth said:
You need to compare apples to apples: the only meaningful comparison is the OnePlus 7 Pro to itself. For example, tell a friend to switch it 60Hz or 90Hz and not tell you which one; then, without checking settings, see if you can guess which is which.
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bruh..i mean i get it, some are fanboys and like their brand, but honestly... 90hz is definately noticable if you dont see it you just wont accept that something beats your loved phone somewhere
and the exynos samsung phones are just not worth the price, the processor is just garbage compared to the sd variants (compared a note 9 with exynos with s9 with sd and s9 was better in nearly every way)
anyway back to the topic:
samsung phones have more, if not all features you want or need, like if you already have a samsung device (watch eg) it makes sense to stay with samsung because it seems to function just better, but if you want a clean smooth experience just grab a op7 pro and feel good
I am using 60Hz refresh rate as well as FHD+
I do not watch high resolution movies on my phone (I prefer an 80" TV for that) but I have tried running the phone at 90HZ and QHD+ and I just do not see, or feel any difference! My scrolling through apps, and pictures, and web pages move just as fast on 60Hz as they do on 90Hz. The screen resolution also does not appear to change at all between FHD and QHD. Don't get me wrong, my phone is on 10 and running like a champ! I do not know if my battery would run out sooner on the higher rates but I just think that this thing is so fast as it is with all the top line hardware that running it at the higher rates would just use more battery with very limited, to no real benefit.
Am I the only one who feels this way?
As someone who uses a 144Hz gaming display and 90Hz OP7Pro daily 60Hz is painfully choppy...
jaseman said:
I am using 60Hz refresh rate as well as FHD+
I do not watch high resolution movies on my phone (I prefer an 80" TV for that) but I have tried running the phone at 90HZ and QHD+ and I just do not see, or feel any difference! My scrolling through apps, and pictures, and web pages move just as fast on 60Hz as they do on 90Hz. The screen resolution also does not appear to change at all between FHD and QHD. Don't get me wrong, my phone is on 10 and running like a champ! I do not know if my battery would run out sooner on the higher rates but I just think that this thing is so fast as it is with all the top line hardware that running it at the higher rates would just use more battery with very limited, to no real benefit.
Am I the only one who feels this way?
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I would like to know why you bought a 1440p 90hz panel if you wish to use 1080p 60? 1440p is obviously more sharper and cleaner image and higher refreshrate = smoother experience I hate to see these comments "I don't see the difference" I always feel like the user is blind to me the difference is so obvious. But as the comment bellow I also game on a 144hz panel so anything less is choppy to me too. So I guess if you never used a high refresh panel it might be not noticeable to you.
liam_davenport said:
I would like to know why you bought a 1440p 90hz panel if you wish to use 1080p 60? 1440p is obviously more sharper and cleaner image and higher refreshrate = smoother experience I hate to see these comments "I don't see the difference" I always feel like the user is blind to me the difference is so obvious. But as the comment bellow I also game on a 144hz panel so anything less is choppy to me too. So I guess if you never used a high refresh panel it might be not noticeable to you.
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I do not play games on a phone. I have more important things to do with a $700.00 tool. I see just fine. I do not buy a phone based on screen refresh rate or resolution. 1080p on a 6 inch screen is better than many 55 inch TV's. I buy my phones based on price, battery size, and a few other features. So my perception is not wrong. I have tried multiple combinations of the various settings and there is LITTLE to NO appreciable difference! Maybe it makes a difference for games, but come on, games? Oh well, to each his own!
Liam definitely has a point. Although I never use 1080 I can understand how 1440 might not be a big enough difference that the extra battery is worth it. However the 90hz is much smoother during everyday use than 60hz. I use forced 90 and it hurts scrolling in any other phone. Don't know how much it affects games
jaseman said:
I do not play games on a phone. I have more important things to do with a $700.00 tool. I see just fine. I do not buy a phone based on screen refresh rate or resolution. 1080p on a 6 inch screen is better than many 55 inch TV's. I buy my phones based on price, battery size, and a few other features. So my perception is not wrong. I have tried multiple combinations of the various settings and there is LITTLE to NO appreciable difference! Maybe it makes a difference for games, but come on, games? Oh well, to each his own!
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I'm pretty sure he was talking about gaming on a 144hz monitor, not on his phone.
So theoretically going from 144hz to 60hz would be a HUGE difference and would definitely be noticeable.
jaseman said:
I do not play games on a phone. I have more important things to do with a $700.00 tool. I see just fine. I do not buy a phone based on screen refresh rate or resolution. 1080p on a 6 inch screen is better than many 55 inch TV's. I buy my phones based on price, battery size, and a few other features. So my perception is not wrong. I have tried multiple combinations of the various settings and there is LITTLE to NO appreciable difference! Maybe it makes a difference for games, but come on, games? Oh well, to each his own!
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90Hz is not only good for gaming. There's was a time when Google Chrome stopped supporting 90Hz (I think it was a month ago). At the very first second I was using Chrome with 60Hz without knowing I just thought "wtf why is it so laggy". So yeah, the difference between 60Hz and 90Hz is very big. Glad chrome supports 90Hz again.
90Hz ftw!
I guess it all boils down to not only "what" you do on your phone, but also "how" you choose to do it...as in which app(s) you choose to get things done. I keep changing settings and even rebooting between changes just to make sure they really take. And I do not see any appreciable difference! Not trying to make trouble, not disparaging this phone at all because I am enjoying it very much! But for me, the way I use it, and the apps that are important to me..the faster refresh rate as well as the higher resolution are anecdotal at best. The whole purpose of this thread for me was to make sure that my phone was truly working properly when using the higher settings. Evidently it is??? YMMV
This is an age-old battle and it's pointless as this is very subjective and changes over time.
Understand that it is normal for a person not to percieve huge difference between 60 and 90Hz if you are used to 60 and going to 90 short term. Your brain needs time to adjust and "speed up" your perception and it takes weeks or months. After that period of getting used to the fluidity of higher refresh display, going back to 60 should seem like a slideshow. Someone used to 60Hz will not see a huge difference, someone coming from 144Hz will immediatelly feel the screen lag at 60. Another thing is dark mode, dark mode indirectly raises your pixel response times, making movement more blurry and the 90Hz less prominent.
As for resolution on this phone, you can clearly see the small text in browsers is more blurry and causes more eye fatigue.
At the end of the day if you value the battery more than screen clarity, it's better to keep both low before you spoil yourself and there's no going back
we all know that on Android 9, not all the apps runs at 90Hz inclued Chrome, the reason is the battery consumption of course
idk if this still true on Android 10, but Chrome is runing at 90Hz on Android 10
so i guess, 1+ unlock the 90Hz to more apps, still mix it with the 60Hz to optimize the battery, so that is why we kind of dont see any differences
the only method to compare is download the Auto90 app from appstore, force the phone to runs at 90Hz all the time then you'll see there is differences or not
I dont mind about resolution since FHD+ is more than Reasonable with color tuning , but the frame rate is one of the main pros of one plus new line up .
So i force all them 90hz on all apps . Leaving iphone users insecurely baffled
I'm usually on a 240hz monitor. The 90hz screen is very nice feeling and whenever I look at my 6t I want to throw up.
^^LOL, good one's
I like the phone and really want to buy it. However, one thing that keeps me hesitant is PWM on this phone. It’s actually lower than P6 pro had https://9apps.ooo/
I would really appreciate to hear some feedback from those who bought it and use it 5+ hrs SOT daily.
How does the display feels on your eyes in general ? How your eyes feel after reading in complete darkness or candle light for a while ?
lanesmang said:
I like the phone and really want to buy it. However, one thing that keeps me hesitant is PWM on this phone. It’s actually lower than P6 pro had
I would really appreciate to hear some feedback from those who bought it and use it 5+ hrs SOT daily.
How does the display feels on your eyes in general ? How your eyes feel after reading in complete darkness or candle light for a while ?
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First, not sure what PWM is and as for how it affects people's eyes is relative to each person's eyes. Not to mention screen settings are customizable per each person's preferences
By PWM do you mean Pulse Width Modulation ? That should not be a problem on any display as long as you don't have extreme high speed eyes.
Maybe refresh rate but starting with 60 hz it also should be easy on eyes, besides you can use 120 hz which is extremely smooth.
As a "wake up early and play with phone" fella I do not have any problems with flickering light or refresh rate.
I haven't had any issues with this phone but I don't seem to be PWM sensitive anyway.
There is far far more to it than just the PWM frequency! The "common" thought on this is that the LEDs are ON for the ON phase of the PWM cycle, and OFF for the OFF phase, but this isn't actually the case because the circuitry and LED cells have *capacitance*, which basically means that they smooth out the pulses, allowing them to blend together and not actually flicker.
Yes, some really really crappy screens will flicker, but these aren't those. The PWM frequency set will account for the capacitance of the circuits.