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Lets talk about security

So pretty much every reviewer has commented on the challenges with the fingerprint sensor as we expected. The other interesting thing is that the reviews call out the difficulty of using the iris scanner since you need to position it just right and on the other hand, facial recognition is lightning fast, but not very secure. What will you use?
My thoughts here are that facial recognition isn't really that bad. Who are you trying to protect against? If the phone is at your house/work or whatever, most of the people in a vicinity of your phone aren't really out to hurt you by using a picture to get into your phone. If you lost your phone, just use Google Device Manager to kill the facial unlock.
Thoughts?

Face-unlock sucks unless the device using it has a decent IR light on it. When I worked IT I would get to the office before the lights came on and the little bit of sunlight wasnt enough for the phone to properly read my face. Facial hair pissed it off, too.
Considering the home button on my Note 5 is a terrible place for fingerprint reader, the S8+ will be an improvement over that. Touching the camera glass is a non-issue... A light fingerprint wont cause any noticable impact on photo quality, and even if it did it takes all of a half second to wipe it clean.
I will probably use iris unless it sucks for me, then I will just use fingerprint till the iris scanner gets sorted. I guess I will put a vote in for Iris then.

faaaaq said:
Face-unlock sucks unless the device using it has a decent IR light on it. When I worked IT I would get to the office before the lights came on and the little bit of sunlight wasnt enough for the phone to properly read my face. Facial hair pissed it off, too.
Considering the home button on my Note 5 is a terrible place for fingerprint reader, the S8+ will be an improvement over that. Touching the camera glass is a non-issue... A light fingerprint wont cause any noticable impact on photo quality, and even if it did it takes all of a half second to wipe it clean.
I will probably use iris unless it sucks for me, then I will just use fingerprint till the iris scanner gets sorted. I guess I will put a vote in for Iris then.
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Totally valid points - allegedly Samsung has improved face unlock to be really good, so it will be interesting to see in low light. I know you can use fingerprint + iris, but not sure you can use fingerprint + face unlock.

Something I wish came stock was the ability to snap a picture with the front and/or back camera whenever someone failed to unlock the device...
Unfortunately I cant test the iris unlock or facial unlock till freakin Tuesday because Best Buy is terrible and I should have known better...

Same always, 4 digit passcode. What's wrong with people. I'm not volunteering my biometrics to ANYONE. EVER. That's "jail bait"

faaaaq said:
Something I wish came stock was the ability to snap a picture with the front and/or back camera whenever someone failed to unlock the device...
Unfortunately I cant test the iris unlock or facial unlock till freakin Tuesday because Best Buy is terrible and I should have known better...
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Cerberus can do this
The Phone Company said:
Same always, 4 digit passcode. What's wrong with people. I'm not volunteering my biometrics to ANYONE. EVER. That's "jail bait"
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Not really for this thread but... Biometrics are stored locally. Also your pin is far more insecure given that anyone can see it and every store you are in has cameras which will pick up your pin

km8j said:
Cerberus can do this
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Cerberus can eat me. I had a lifetime membership with them but then they decided more money was better than good relationships with customers so they expired all of the promotional lifetime memberships. This was their official statement:
"We had to revoke free lifetime licenses that were given away during a few promotions we made years ago. We apologize for this and know it is a bad PR move, unfortunately it was not feasible anymore for us to provide a free service for life.
Free licenses will expire about 3 years after their beginning, and affected users will be notified via email before the license expires. We hope Cerberus helped those users recover a lost or stolen device, and that they will consider buying a license to continue to use our service. Paid licenses are not affected."

km8j said:
Cerberus can do this
Not really for this thread but... Biometrics are stored locally. Also your pin is far more insecure given that anyone can see it and every store you are in has cameras which will pick up your pin
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This is a security announcement, for your safety we recommend… always shield your pin. If you see something suspicious.
This is for the "always be in fear" crowd. I am not one of those goats. Security update my @$$. Having used Windows 7 for the past decade I do not allow "Automatic Updates". Same with Samsung, "Security Update: Improves Performance, Prolongs Battery Life". This is a 'Trojan Horse' to get your biometrics on the grid. What next, DNA Tester? Blood Sample?
Even IF someone has my PIN, then what? Do they have my phone? Even if I had your phone locked down with Fingerprint Lock, I can just reset the device?
Nope, not buying it. That stuff's for the goats.

I used Iris unlock on both of the Note 7s I had and never had any issues. It even worked when I had my glasses on.
Sent from my wickedly awesome Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 using my S-Pen. Duh!!!

The Phone Company said:
This is a security announcement, for your safety we recommend… always shield your pin. If you see something suspicious. This is for the "always be in fear" crowd. I am not one of those goats. Security update my @$$. Having used Windows 7 for the past decade I do not allow "Automatic Updates". Same with Samsung...
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Wait.... are you saying you've refused updates on Win7 for 10 years? Entirely?
I must be reading that wrong. Because an unpatched Windows 7 machine (nevermind apps) would be an exploit playground. And same with Samsung.
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Even if I had your phone locked down with Fingerprint Lock, I can just reset the device?
Nope, not buying it. That stuff's for the goats.
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That's twice, but I'm not sure if "goat" is just an insult, or reference to Doddington's zoo.
Either way, using a 4-digit PIN trades ease of use for very low security. It can even be guessed remotely, using sensor data showing how you tilt the phone.
As far as "just resetting the device", that won't bypass Full Disk Encryption., because it should erase the keys stored for FDE and render internal storage unreadable. I'll confirm this on my S8+ when I get it today.

Who exactly is going to take my phone or "guess remotely" my pin. And go ahead, quote fear mongering propaganda. Some people will believe anything they read. The world is full of people looking to hack their phone and computer I get it. Better "be safe and secure" and use Iris Scanner and Fingerprint Sensor. These 2 things are like one year old, what were people doing to "protect" their phones for the 10 or 20 years prior. Just a reminder, your whole bank account, life savings, in the form of Debit Card/Credit Card is used how? With a 4 digit Pin number. I would rather guess that remotely than worry about your "smart phone"

The Phone Company said:
Who exactly is going to take my phone or "guess remotely" my pin. And go ahead, quote fear mongering propaganda. Some people will believe anything they read. The world is full of people looking to hack their phone and computer I get it. Better "be safe and secure" and use Iris Scanner and Fingerprint Sensor. These 2 things are like one year old, what were people doing to "protect" their phones for the 10 or 20 years prior. Just a reminder, your whole bank account, life savings, in the form of Debit Card/Credit Card is used how? With a 4 digit Pin number. I would rather guess that remotely than worry about your "smart phone"
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Thanks for the thinly-veiled ad hominems, and catching my "fear-mongering propaganda". Most people are easily fooled by inline URLs., but not you.
Another reply isn't going to do much, because the goalposts are moving around fast. What happened to Win7 never being updated? Now we're on to my bank account (which BTW uses routing, account, and ACH numbers, not just a 4-digit PIN). I don't play that kind of game though. Cheers.

km8j said:
Cerberus can do this
Not really for this thread but... Biometrics are stored locally. Also your pin is far more insecure given that anyone can see it and every store you are in has cameras which will pick up your pin
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voxluna said:
Wait.... are you saying you've refused updates on Win7 for 10 years? Entirely?
I must be reading that wrong. Because an unpatched Windows 7 machine (nevermind apps) would be an exploit playground. And same with Samsung.
That's twice, but I'm not sure if "goat" is just an insult, or reference to Doddington's zoo.
Either way, using a 4-digit PIN trades ease of use for very low security. It can even be guessed remotely, using sensor data showing how you tilt the phone.
As far as "just resetting the device", that won't bypass Full Disk Encryption., because it should erase the keys stored for FDE and render internal storage unreadable. I'll confirm this on my S8+ when I get it today.
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So for the first time ever in all of my 3 years on my Note 4 (and never gotten on my Note 2 or S2) I got this pop up on my screen after clicking the links you posted, way to go. You had a point to prove, huh?
A little delving into your attached links this shows up:
https://www.tripwire.com/state-of-s...tails-not-just-prove-android-security-stinks/

Any one having issues activating Cerberus app in S8+?

Actually I have no problem with fingerprint scanner "location" (near camera some folk says) and its pretty fast and it opens my phone on very first try. the only thing i don't like is when the phone is on the table i need to pick it up and use fingerpring which in this scenario I use pattern unlock.

I use the iris scanner all the time and it works flawlessly unless the phone is in direct sun light and then it doesn't work well and I use the fingerprint scanner but in most cases the iris scanner works just great!

someone261 said:
I use the iris scanner all the time and it works flawlessly unless the phone is in direct sun light and then it doesn't work well and I use the fingerprint scanner but in most cases the iris scanner works just great!
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I agree. It is not quite as easy to use as fingerprint scanning- however a pin or more secure password option exists and with smartlock setup- the phone will only lock when not near your Bluetooth connected watch, car audio, etc. Secure folders is an added layer of security (S8). Besides theft, the principal vunerability is downloading apps not in the Google play store. However none of the above is fool proof. Antivirus/malware tools should also help.
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Iris scanner on Samsung S8 has been defeated. Fingerprint reader has not.
Banking apps use Fingerprint reader. So does LastPass that can protect other passwords. Use a complex PIN with more than 4 numbers as a last resort if Fingerprint detection doesn't work.

ocujos said:
Iris scanner on Samsung S8 has been defeated. Fingerprint reader has not.
Banking apps use Fingerprint reader. So does LastPass that can protect other passwords. Use a complex PIN with more than 4 numbers as a last resort if Fingerprint detection doesn't work.
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Defeated how exactly?

someone261 said:
Defeated how exactly?
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Face Unlock - Is it TOO permissive / Not secure enough?

I love how fast the Fast Unlock feature is... but I was curious as to how secure the facial recognition technology actually is.
I did a test today with my father and my brother-in-law try to see if they could unlock the OP6 with their faces. My father and I look relatively similar and my brother-in-law, while there is no blood relation, has similar facial features.
To my surprise, the Oneplus 6 unlocked for both of them! I removed my current face profile, set it again, and have them try a second time and the phone unlocked again.
I'm going to continue to experiment with this with other friends (one's who have similar features as well as those with distinctly different features) and see if I can continue to reproduce these results.
Community: Has anyone else experimented with this? If so, what was your result?

Interesting [emoji106] will watch the thread... The technology should be similar to the oneplus 5t so maybe there your will find some more info?
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Was it not because you were near the phone and that it also saw your face when they tried to unlock it?
I never heard before that someone could have fooled the phone with face unlock.
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Yes, it's not secure. My friend picked up my phone and it unlocked. ?

Just tried it and surprising yes, it seems other people can unlock mine with their face [emoji50]

that sounds strange.
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I tested it out on my daughter and she was able to unlock it with face unlock. It's not very secure.

If you're worried about security don't use biometrics.

Without dual cameras and 3d rendering face unlock is not secure

Hmm not secure indeed on op6. I tested and keep my hand on half off my face and it still unlocks. On my 5t it works way better? Disable face unlock till issue is solved, I thought that oneplus said that face recognition was improved on op6.
Regards ysco..

Yupp, I removed it.. When my father just took the handset to admire the outer body and it unlocked within 2 seconds when he pressed unlock button.. I tried it again and it unlocked again.. So I removed this bull**** from security..
I thought , one day I will find my dad reading my sex chat.. Prevention is better the cure.. I just removed it without saying a word.. ????

rmaathuis said:
Was it not because you were near the phone and that it also saw your face when they tried to unlock it?
I never heard before that someone could have fooled the phone with face unlock.
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No, was not next to him... I locked the phone and handed it to him across the table. He pressed power and the phone scanned his face and unlocked.

I think OnePlus's "fast" face unlock is much worse than stock. It just traces out the rough geometry

kawaiiDango said:
I think OnePlus's "fast" face unlock is much worse than stock. It just traces out the rough geometry
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Yeah, that's why it's so fast. It's not at all secure, more of a gimmick.

Dont care much for security....but är missed the lockscreen too much, had to dissable Face Unlock again

My dog unlocked my OP6, what does say about me? Lol, I'm one ugly mofo or my dog is one handsome poodle.

A.Priori said:
My dog unlocked my OP6, what does say about me? Lol, I'm one ugly mofo or my dog is one handsome poodle.
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You're ugly

It seems like everyone who has replied is ok with this?
Just makes me wonder what other features and solutions are gimmicks... What else did they skimp on...

I thought OnePlus already mentioned that the face unlock is not secure.

I turned off Face Unlock because it was so fast I could never see my notifications. The fingerprint scanner works well enough for my taste.

Terrible fingerpring reader

The fingerprint reader on my Note 10+ is terrible!
It often doesn't recognise 4 or 5 attempts in a row, then locking me out from further biometrical login and I have to use my PIN to get into my phone.
I was kind of expecting for this forum to be full of this problem. Is it only me then?

naujoks said:
The fingerprint reader on my Note 10+ is terrible!
It often doesn't recognise 4 or 5 attempts in a row, then locking me out from further biometrical login and I have to use my PIN to get into my phone.
I was kind of expecting for this forum to be full of this problem. Is it only me then?
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Update to Official Android 10 , and re-write your review after doing that ! :good:
Also look arround for threads regarding some tricks to get a "beter" fingerprint registration

I am on Android 10 already.
It already starts when registering a fingerprint. It constantly says "Press a little harder" when I'm already pressing my thumb right through the screen.
It got that bad after Samsung published the update after people found out their ****ty fingerprint sensor can be fooled by having a screen protector on.
Since then, my fingerprint sensor has been pretty much all but useless.

Your not alone its crappy they should of kept it on the back

im very dissapointed with that fingerprint sensor on my predecessor p30 pro is it shame.. slow and inaccurate, maybe This is due to plastic foil but thats Thinnest foil What ever exists

It only works well if your fingers are little moisturized. Otherwise, it failed often

Yep, I have dry skin and that makes it extremely difficult for the scanner.

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Your not alone its crappy they should of kept it on the back
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Man honestly I wish they would have put the scanner in the power button like on th Huawei mate30 pro

Yes it's rubbish. Worst fingerpront scanner on any phone I've owned. The poor scanner, dropped calls and scrolling issues stop this phone from being 10/10. All very big problems too. I would have kept my Note 8 and not bought this phone had I known.

I just don't use it, lol. Actually I don't use any lock screen at all, not even swipe. I find them annoying. I hide all my stuff in Termux which the average user or theif wouldn't think to look, or even know what they are looking at, lol. I could always lock it or erase it remotely with a few clicks on Google. As long as it's turned on and connected to the internet.

Try this

Register 2 fingerprints only for the same finger with many angles as you can,its worked well for me

I've stopped using the fingerprint scanner altogether and now use facial recognitiong (quick) which works flawlessly.

SM-N9860 HK Version - any issues with Fingerprint scanner with factory protector

So we get the screen - protector pre-installed, and this is my 1st ever fingerprint ( under the skin ) phone
I cannot make it work perfectly as well
it takes for it to recognize it for registration
I even followed the tip where I make 2 fingerprints of the same thumb
I look at videos where ppl are touching it gently
I have to press hard if it works but most times, it doesnt recognize and I have to sorta try few angles beofe I do this
Is it because of screen protector?
Any help, tips please and if anyone can show me how their works coz I swear I am having issues

this is my 3rd sammy with the screen scanner...they work so so with the factory screen protector (this one has been the best out of s10 plus, note 10 plus) but they work way better if you remove it.
of course then your screen is vulnerable but that's the choice pretty much.
im using my note 9 today and much prefer the scanner on the back still lol

Finger print is a hit or miss for me and I don't have a screen protector ??*

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So we get the screen - protector pre-installed, and this is my 1st ever fingerprint ( under the skin ) phone
I cannot make it work perfectly as well
it takes for it to recognize it for registration
I even followed the tip where I make 2 fingerprints of the same thumb
I look at videos where ppl are touching it gently
I have to press hard if it works but most times, it doesnt recognize and I have to sorta try few angles beofe I do this
Is it because of screen protector?
Any help, tips please and if anyone can show me how their works coz I swear I am having issues
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It works very well for me. Not ideal but really well with the built-in screen protector.
There is one hack to make biometrics work faster - go to Optimise Battery Usage permissions and untick the com.samsung.android.biometrics entry. This will allow biometrics service to always work and will improve biometrics response time greatly.

It works, like on n10 before it. Not as good and fast as one on one plus 8 pro which I had before but it works. Best advice is to buy gearfit 2 pro or some from active watches and make it as a trusted device
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VirtualWaver said:
It works very well for me. Not ideal but really well with the built-in screen protector.
There is one hack to make biometrics work faster - go to Optimise Battery Usage permissions and untick the com.samsung.android.biometrics entry. This will allow biometrics service to always work and will improve biometrics response time greatly.
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Didn't feel a difference from this.

UK, Sim free handset, already tried the register the same finger twice and wasn't helping. Now got one finger four times but still the same issue. It fails so often that sometimes it goes over the 5 allowable attempts, or is just very slow, and also needs a harder press that my previous Notes.
It still has factory screen protector on.
Any suggestions?
And how do you find the "Optimise Battery Usage permissions and untick the com.samsung.android.biometrics"
Thanks.

Try to learn to use face unlock (I'm on same path jow)...fp on S and N samsung devices is terrable! I had one plus 8 pro one month and after optical reader, this ultrasonic is disaster [emoji849]
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Proday said:
Try to learn to use face unlock (I'm on same path jow)...fp on S and N samsung devices is terrable! I had one plus 8 pro one month and after optical reader, this ultrasonic is disaster [emoji849]
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Working great on S20U and N20U here
Register same fingerprint 2-3 times
Disable Battery optimisation for Biometrics
Disable Unlock Animation
Enable Increase Touch Sensitivity
Both phones unlock with FP with hardly even a touch

Mby if you work in office and have perfect hands (fingers). For people that works at a construction yard this is a no go (have s20 and n20 ultra 5g right now with me)!
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Proday said:
Mby if you work in office and have perfect hands (fingers). For people that works at a construction yard this is a no go (have s20 and n20 ultra 5g right now with me)!
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Well yea, if your fingerprints are a mess then a fingerprint reader isn't going to read them very well, kinda obvious?

*Detection* said:
Well yea, if your fingerprints are a mess then a fingerprint reader isn't going to read them very well, kinda obvious?
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As I sad, on One plus 8 pro fp works like a charm (I had a few weeks even samsung s10 lite; for a miles better than this samsung flagships)!
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Question What is your experience with fingerprint and face unlock?

Hi,
I'm coming from Note9. Fingerprint scanner was on the back. It also had iris scanner.
So dry or wet finger, day or night - I was able to unlock my Note9 from the first try with 100% probability.
Can't say about S2 Ultra.
Faceunlock - works only in ideal conditions (face in front of the camera, well lit etc.).
Fingerprint - most of the time I unlock it from 1-3 tries. And yes.. I rescanned my fingers many times. Same result.
What is your experience?

Coming from a Note 10+ the fingerprint reader works great; it is much more responsive than the Note 10+. I don't use face unlock (I haven't used it since the Galaxy Nexus), so I can't talk to that. I'm not comfortable using face unlock. It is still less secure than fingerprint or a PIN. I don't care what Apple or Samsung says.
I did like the iris scanner on my Note 8. Though, I am not sure how secure it was.

I have no issues with fingerprint....works mostly first time....sometimes when finger is wet I need a 2nd try....Face unlock works okay most of the time....lighting conditions do play a roll....especially bad if the room is dark and a light shine from behind....overall much better then my previous samsung phones

termdj said:
overall much better then my previous samsung phones
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Good for you. What previous Samsung phone did you have?
It's really worse than Note9. But Note9 had different tech (iris scanner and not ordinary front facing camera, hardware finger print scanner and not under the screen scanner).

I had the s5,s6+,s9,s10 and s21 ultra...on my previous phones I made sure to scan one finger into multiple fingers, so it had 5 copies of my finger... that helped mostly with it reading my finger print the first time.. saw a video on it on YouTube. With the s22 ultra I only have one fingerprint registered and works great...i did make sure i scan it from all angles and sides... also video on YouTube...

Faceunlock much worth than OnePlus.

termdj said:
I had the s5,s6+,s9,s10 and s21 ultra...on my previous phones I made sure to scan one finger into multiple fingers, so it had 5 copies of my finger... that helped mostly with it reading my finger print the first time.. saw a video on it on YouTube. With the s22 ultra I only have one fingerprint registered and works great...i did make sure i scan it from all angles and sides... also video on YouTube...
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S22 Ultra lets scan only 4 fingers. So 2 times right and left thumb.

I suggest doing 1 finger on all 4...it worked for me on the previous phones

I used both thumbs for setting up one fingerprint. Did this for all four fingerprint options, so each process has both thumbs registered and it went on for four times. Did this fun and not necessarily to make sure to recognise better.
Both thumbs work as intended. Doesn't work when wet or with pruney fingers.
I don't use face recognition because of no security and "ideal condition" requirement. It's neither IRIS scanning nor super secure face id.

bat0nas said:
Hi,
I'm coming from Note9. Fingerprint scanner was on the back. It also had iris scanner.
So dry or wet finger, day or night - I was able to unlock my Note9 from the first try with 100% probability.
Can't say about S2 Ultra.
Faceunlock - works only in ideal conditions (face in front of the camera, well lit etc.).
Fingerprint - most of the time I unlock it from 1-3 tries. And yes.. I rescanned my fingers many times. Same result.
What is your experience?
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S22u fingerprints recognized 80% of the time. I have set up one thumb and one index finger. I wish the fingerprint reader was on the power button like the z Fold 3 which worked about 98% of the time.
I do not use face unlock.

The FPR for me works about 99% of the time. If a finger was wet that's typically the only time it doesn't work. I use face unlock secondary. Also works great.
I came from a pixel 6 pro, where the FPR was total garbage. It's nice having a phone you can actually unlock with a fingerprint lol.

gettinwicked said:
The FPR for me works about 99% of the time. If a finger was wet that's typically the only time it doesn't work. I use face unlock secondary. Also works great.
I came from a pixel 6 pro, where the FPR was total garbage. It's nice having a phone you can actually unlock with a fingerprint lol.
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Wow, 99% success with FPR - that seems a little high. Try turning off face unlock and see what percent success you get with just FPR. Not sure if it goes immediately to face unlock on the 1st failed attempt with the FPR. If it does, face unlock is very fast and may be masking the failed FPR attempts.

Rubby1025 said:
Wow, 99% success with FPR - that seems a little high. Try turning off face unlock and see what percent success you get with just FPR. Not sure if it goes immediately to face unlock on the 1st failed attempt with the FPR. If it does, face unlock is very fast and may be masking the failed FPR attempts.
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I'm getting about 99% with the fingerprint reader and I am not using face recognition.

At least 90%-95% success rate with FPR.
I'm not using face unlock

Virgo_Guy said:
I used both thumbs for setting up one fingerprint. Did this for all four fingerprint options, so each process has both thumbs registered and it went on for four times. Did this fun and not necessarily to make sure to recognise better.
Both thumbs work as intended. Doesn't work when wet or with pruney fingers.
I don't use face recognition because of no security and "ideal condition" requirement. It's neither IRIS scanning nor super secure face id.
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I did both thumbs and both forefingers using one fingerprint entry. I saw it on youtube and couldn't believe it. I'm not talking about adding one fingerprint completely and then hitting add. Example, start with your thumb and just register part of it, then use a forefinger, another thumb, another forefinger, keep alternating until it hits 100%. Works perfectly.

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Fingerprint - most of the time I unlock it from 1-3 tries.
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Same experience. Works very fast but probability of unlock is 90% or so. And this is supposedly a good result for the scanner which is behind the screen. My previous phone was OnePlus 3T with a fingerprint scanner inside a button - unlock speed was the same (instant) but unlock probability was something like 99.99%. This is called progress...

I use both thumbs for unlocking which works around 90% of the time.
With face unlocking I have normal and alternative appearance set so this typically works before I can even use my fingerprints.

Inconsistent at best. Still better than the fingerprint on my Pixel 6 Pro. But face recognition belongs to the iPhone.

bat0nas said:
Hi,
I'm coming from Note9. Fingerprint scanner was on the back. It also had iris scanner.
So dry or wet finger, day or night - I was able to unlock my Note9 from the first try with 100% probability.
Can't say about S2 Ultra.
Faceunlock - works only in ideal conditions (face in front of the camera, well lit etc.).
Fingerprint - most of the time I unlock it from 1-3 tries. And yes.. I rescanned my fingers many times. Same result.
What is your experience?
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I have a new S22 and my experience is so frustrating. I am coming back to samsung after few generations from huawei (mate 20 pro and P30 Pro). What I can't digest is the fingerprint and face id works so flawlessly on the Huawei which is relatively newcomer than Samsung and they have done it so perfectly. (on Mate 20 Pro it used 3D scan and on P30 Pro 2D scan). Samsung with all its generations with the many decades of experience still struggles.
Fingerprint is too slow and sometimes after a few tries. Face ID takes a while to open the screen. And what more - when i enable fingerprint - for some reason the face ID just becomes lazy, I don't see it even attempting to detect the face (from the rim light effect on front camera). It looks as though the fingerprint has superceded the face id. I am getting more and more frustrated by this. I did try scanning both fingerprint and face id several times. But no luck. I even suspected probably there is a way to prioritize the usage of biometrics and looked for it but there is none.
In contrast on my Huawei - it just takes fraction of a second to unlock as though it is not scanning the id (both face and fingerprint) but actually it does the job so quickly. What is happening here - is this how samsung had been all these years? I can't believe if they say they've improved from previous generations. Why is the face id so slow and most times (well lit environment as well - the face id is not at work at all (no rim light around front camera, as though the id is not at work)
Is this the same experience others have and is normal for Samsung? Do you all think it is a one off case and a reset might fix it?

I find it almost as smooth as IPhone 13. Both fingerprint and face recognition work well together, probably @ 98% unlock efficiency. with official samsung screen protector