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Where is the source code?
A: It is not released, nor will it be released as it was with mtcB. WTF!
Do the MTCD boards have proprietary hardware and/or software? Besides the MCU
A: Yes. Custom digitizer means you have to buy screen from them. LCD is generic so its replaceable but I have found a reputable dealer. Heres website
http://cowinlcd.com/html/en/index.php?ac=article&at=read&did=113
What are the LCD and digitizer model numbers?
A:depends on the head unit model
10.1 inch version: Cowin and goodix
7 inch versions: ?
Where can I find rk3188 2gb boards to replace the 1gb board?
A:JOYING-There are none. They keep claiming 2gb is coming, but if they knew MTCB boards were slow with 1gb, why are they selling it again.
A:Xtrons-
How are they loading the software onto the board? (Jtag etc)
A: from Rockchips site,
"Support system code download by the following interface: USB OTG interface. | UART2Interface "
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Then I'm assuming(NOT TESTED) we can use rktool and flash the update img. Tearing apart the img shows partion paths. This might be the method for user recovery on hard brick units.
Has anyone found any suspicious activity/service/app running on these units?
A: Not yet but since source is being withheld BE CAREFUL of your privacy.
Has anyone used any after market shark fins with these units?
A: Only Radio fins was tested. GPS fins unknown. LTE fins known.
A guy pm'd me an app that sets Poweramp as the primary music player and adds it to steering wheel controls, however the app is specifically for poweramp unfortunately. However, if someone has managed to make it work with power amp, i cant see a reason why it couldnt be re-worked for Google Music?
A: Joying and other brands dont care or have much knowledge. The lack of source code is sad. Its left up to the users which begs the question:
Why is this product so expensive if it runs extremely slow and we have to do all the work?
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Is there any way to pull an image of the full MCU/stock software for recovery purposes, or is this one of those things that is really available only from manufacturer?
A: Yes . Online Nandroid on play store. or RKtools.
Where can I get drivers and other useful tools?
A:Rockchips site
If anyone else has questions that get answered here Ill update first post to reflect it.
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If anyone else has questions that get answered here Ill update first post to reflect it.
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Where is the source code?
It is not released, nor will it be released as it was with mtcB
What are the LCD and digitizer model numbers?
depends on the head unit model
Where can I find rk3188 2gb sodimm boards to replace the 1gb board?
not available yet from Joying but it is under development
How are they loading the software onto the board? (Jtag etc)
what software?
apps are installed like any other android phone
Has anyone found any suspicious activity/service/app running on these units?
not yet
Has anyone used any after market shark fins with these units?
Radio antennas? sure many people and it is recommended if your car has more than one radio.
not available yet from Joying but it is under development
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I thought Rockchip produces those boards?
what software?
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android system/bootloader/kernel How are they loading onto the nand storage. With certain phones and tablets you can jtag. Others require certain hardware or software to load it onto the board. This is to try to come up with a user method of recovering hard bricks.
Can anyone with experience of MTCB units and MTCD units post some sort of comparison of the two types ?
We can see what the differences are but it would be useful if someone with experience of both types ( @Marius B or @doctorman maybe) could post some comments explaining the hands on advantages or disadvantages compared to the "B" units.
Maybe even open a new thread on the subject of the differences and whether its worth upgrading to the "D" types.
I have seen a question about malicious apps/activity a few times on the MTCD board. Was that a problem on the MTCB units or another? Or are you all just doing due diligence?
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CadillacMike said:
I have seen a question about malicious apps/activity a few times on the MTCD board. Was that a problem on the MTCB units or another? Or are you all just doing due diligence?
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never saw anything on that regard in Joying units at least.
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Can anyone with experience of MTCB units and MTCD units post some sort of comparison of the two types ?
We can see what the differences are but it would be useful if someone with experience of both types ( @Marius B or @doctorman maybe) could post some comments explaining the hands on advantages or disadvantages compared to the "B" units.
Maybe even open a new thread on the subject of the differences and whether its worth upgrading to the "D" types.
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what kind of detail do you need.
there are reviews around the net on both..
to my experience right now the mtcD ROM needs major polishing , it is nothing close to mtcB. it is sluggish.
I am so sure that I noticed one boot at 10 seconds but could not replicate it, I am getting 23 seconds boot time on mtcD with latest Joying ROM.
motherboardis rearranged,
it has now 3 UPS plugs on the mother board, only 2 used.
2 wifi antennas but wifi is still 2.4 GHz
GPS antenna is soldered to the coreboard instead of motherboard.
the screen ribbon cable in mtcD is narrower and does not fit the old mtcB connection
touch screens are not interchangeable even though the cable is the same
BT is built in to the motherboard now
I would give the mtcD 6 months to mature up like mtcB units
we now have many developers working on head units and they are joining mtcD as well and bring their work over to these so it will hopefully go faster.
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there are reviews around the net on both..
to my experience right now the mtcD ROM needs major polishing , it is nothing close to mtcB. it is sluggish.
I am so sure that I noticed one boot at 10 seconds but could not replicate it, I am getting 23 seconds boot time on mtcD with latest Joying ROM.
motherboardis rearranged,
it has now 3 UPS plugs on the mother board, only 2 used.
2 wifi antennas but wifi is still 2.4 GHz
GPS antenna is soldered to the coreboard instead of motherboard.
the screen ribbon cable in mtcD is narrower and does not fit the old mtcB connection
touch screens are not interchangeable even though the cable is the same
BT is built in to the motherboard now
I would give the mtcD 6 months to mature up like mtcB units
we now have many developers working on head units and they are joining mtcD as well and bring their work over to these so it will hopefully go faster.
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Thanks Doctorman, I think its pretty obvious that MTCD will replace MTCB, a shame in some ways cos of all the work done on MTCB units over the years, it would have been nice to be able to just upgrade the SoM as we did from MTCB RK3066 to MTCB RK3188, on the other hand the MTCD MCU seems to be better then the MTCB MCU and lots of the MTCBs bugs seem to have gone with the MTCD units, its just a case of allowing them to mature lke you say.
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Does anyone have an MCTD device that has working bluetooth settings? Can you add and remove devices freely without issues?
The rom that came on my device can't add/remove bluetooth devices from the head unit bluetooth settings page. Selecting a device does nothing. It's as if you don't pair a device once initially prompted, it won't let you change things.
I do, but only phones and OBD2 dongles pair so far. Also most apps other than Torque that would use the BT obd2 dongle think that BT is off in the system.
I bought a Huifei unit for my VW Crafter (I can't post links yet due to my post count, but if you search for Crafter quad core android something like it comes up). Since it is essentially the same as the Mercedes Sprinter, it fits both cars. However, on the VW the dash lights are red and on the MB they are orange. Apparantly when switching to 5.1.1 they also made some hardware modifications. One of them being that the button lights aren't RGB anymore, but only orange. I've already tried to resolve this through the seller by obtaining a new button pcb with red leds, but that seems like a track that doesn't really lead anywhere.
Since I see many people doing hardware mods on these units also, I was wondering whether this is a mod that a local electronic repair shop could do. I've contacted one of them, but they didn't want to do it because they feared the SMD-technique.
I hope you guys can confirm that this is possible to do by a professional repair shop.
BTW, I know I'm to late to the show to sponsor the new unit for the 5.1.1 development. But I would like to show my gratitude to this person anyway, since I'm really hoping the software side of things gets improved soon also and I'm very happy that he is willing to take on this task. How can I still donate to him?
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I bought a Huifei unit for my VW Crafter (I can't post links yet due to my post count, but if you search for Crafter quad core android something like it comes up). Since it is essentially the same as the Mercedes Sprinter, it fits both cars. However, on the VW the dash lights are red and on the MB they are orange. Apparantly when switching to 5.1.1 they also made some hardware modifications. One of them being that the button lights aren't RGB anymore, but only orange. I've already tried to resolve this through the seller by obtaining a new button pcb with red leds, but that seems like a track that doesn't really lead anywhere.
Since I see many people doing hardware mods on these units also, I was wondering whether this is a mod that a local electronic repair shop could do. I've contacted one of them, but they didn't want to do it because they feared the SMD-technique.
I hope you guys can confirm that this is possible to do by a professional repair shop.
BTW, I know I'm to late to the show to sponsor the new unit for the 5.1.1 development. But I would like to show my gratitude to this person anyway, since I'm really hoping the software side of things gets improved soon also and I'm very happy that he is willing to take on this task. How can I still donate to him?
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a bit if hot air and the correct LEDs should be an easy modification.
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Whether at this moment is possible to configure wheel to sterring in custom aps like a spotify etc.? I have mtcd for bmw and in my Steering wheel keys app dont see any keys.
Or We need to new custom firemware or app updates?
Just make use of the "phone" app, you can delete paired devices there!
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There is already an deprecated app for this.
Maybe the developer can help us with this?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ws.petro.rk3188.headunit&hl=de
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Just make use of the "phone" app, you can delete paired devices there!
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There is already an deprecated app for this.
Maybe the developer can help us with this?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ws.petro.rk3188.headunit&hl=de
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He d probably have to re-write the app as it talks to the MTCB MCUs.
Is there any prerooted, more recent Rom for"MTCD_LM_V1.40_1" (03/30/2016)? Thanks in advance.
Headunit is made by Erisin LM. Android 5.1.1. RK3188
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Is there any prerooted, more recent Rom for"MTCD_LM_V1.40_1" (03/30/2016)? Thanks in advance.
Headunit is made by Erisin. Android 5.1.1. RK3188
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No, your head unit is NOT made by Erisin, Erisin are a seller.
Go to settings/about device and see what 2 or 3 letters appear after "MTCD" in the MCU field to find who your manufacturer is.
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No, your head unit is NOT made by Erisin, Erisin are a seller.
Go to settings/about device and see what 2 or 3 letters appear after "MTCD" in the MCU field to find who your manufacturer is.
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Thanks for this!
Can LM Boards be used with some other manufactors roms likely "rebranding"? (or will this cause a soft/hardbrick?)
I flashed on my KGL Unit a Joying Rom. Just the Rom, not the MCU!!
Works without problems.
Can anyone tell me if the modded apps like Bluetooth and Radio for the MTCB units work on MTCD units??
Hi guys
So in 2017, I bought an Andrid HU with an Intel Sofia SoC ( Joying JY-VM130N2D) for my Volkswagen.
It still works but there is some annoying bug and now i'm quiet bored of that. So I want to know what's the news on the Android HU scene.
-As I remember, the Intel SoC can boot approx. 5 sec after turn on the car and the RKXXX is always 30 sec ? How it is now ?
-Now I can see PX6, MTCE etc... what's the updates between the old one ?
-What's pro and con's between Intel and Rockchip ? It seems, there is more people who develop on RK than Intel
-Which company I should use to look for a new HU? Joying seems to stay with Intel Soc and i Don't know the brand like Xtrons, EUNAVI...
Cheers guys and happy new year !!
Perhaps tabulate from questions, not sure owners of one head unit will know how the shyte JY units compare to the MTC units.
Perhaps read the wiki and compare against the rubbish Unit you have.
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Perhaps tabulate from questions, not sure owners of one head unit will know how the shyte JY units compare to the MTC units.
Perhaps read the wiki and compare against the rubbish Unit you have.
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Thanks I was looking for a wiki I looked in the wrong section ^^
As I understand it the current market is still Intel vs rockchip.
With RK you're still at px5/px6 which as you say, have really good community support.
Px5 and px6 headunits have come a long way. Boot time is 30 seconds from cold boot and less than one second from standby, which is the default state that the unit goes into when you turn off your car. Power drain in this standby mode is negligible and I've left my car without starting it for 3 weeks in this mode.. car started right up as did the head unit.
Biggest issue with the px6 headunits right now for me is the internet.. basically the WiFi on these units is still crap regardless of the brand you try, no matter what anyone tries to tell you or clever hardware hacks you try.
And if you want a dedicated mobile line you're forced to rely on a 4g dongle or your phones hotspot as the tablets dont support native sim cards.
The 4G dongle solution is also passable at best, after a lot of fiddling and some software level hacks. (See my post about 4g dongles on these units for example)
On the Intel side, there are new airmont based HU (sc9853i) with dsp and native 4G sim card support.
These are pretty good and are quoted to be 30% faster than their px6 counterparts.
In my opinion the biggest issue with these is not the lack of community support but how they fit in cars. Basically where the tablet attaches to the headunit is just a push tab that's not adjustable. Comparing to the px6 counterparts which are usually rotatable or at least adjustable up and down
https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...ying-android-8-1-intel-airmont-eight-t3897206
Also worth noting in the px6 world is the new Tesla style headunits. They're a little more expensive but 12.9 inches and seem to have excellent community support with a dedicated, active Facebook page. They seem to still have the PX6 issues with 4G internet though their WiFi antenna doesn't suffer from the same Bluetooth interference that the other units get.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android-auto/android-head-units/tesla-style-headunits-t3512709/amp/
https://m.facebook.com/groups/tesla.style.FW.HU/
For my money, the perfect headunit that I'm holding out for is 12.9 inches with rotatable mount like the Tesla units but using airmont hardware with the native 4G support.
Of course, all of the above is my opinion only gained through my own personal experience with each of these units. Its entirely possible that someone else's experience my contradict mine. Also, the market is vast and I think I did a good job combing it but it's very possible that I missed some other type of headunit. If so I'd love to know so I can see if it fits my needs.
Hope this helps!
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As I understand it the current market is still Intel vs rockchip.
With RK you're still at px5/px6 which as you say, have really good community support.
Px5 and px6 headunits have come a long way. Boot time is 30 seconds from cold boot and less than one second from standby, which is the default state that the unit goes into when you turn off your car. Power drain in this standby mode is negligible and I've left my car without starting it for 3 weeks in this mode.. car started right up as did the head unit.
Biggest issue with the px6 headunits right now for me is the internet.. basically the WiFi on these units is still crap regardless of the brand you try, no matter what anyone tries to tell you or clever hardware hacks you try.
And if you want a dedicated mobile line you're forced to rely on a 4g dongle or your phones hotspot as the tablets dont support native sim cards.
The 4G dongle solution is also passable at best, after a lot of fiddling and some software level hacks. (See my post about 4g dongles on these units for example)
On the Intel side, there are new airmont based HU (sc9853i) with dsp and native 4G sim card support.
These are pretty good and are quoted to be 30% faster than their px6 counterparts.
In my opinion the biggest issue with these is not the lack of community support but how they fit in cars. Basically where the tablet attaches to the headunit is just a push tab that's not adjustable. Comparing to the px6 counterparts which are usually rotatable or at least adjustable up and down
https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...ying-android-8-1-intel-airmont-eight-t3897206
Also worth noting in the px6 world is the new Tesla style headunits. They're a little more expensive but 12.9 inches and seem to have excellent community support with a dedicated, active Facebook page. They seem to still have the PX6 issues with 4G internet though their WiFi antenna doesn't suffer from the same Bluetooth interference that the other units get.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android-auto/android-head-units/tesla-style-headunits-t3512709/amp/
https://m.facebook.com/groups/tesla.style.FW.HU/
For my money, the perfect headunit that I'm holding out for is 12.9 inches with rotatable mount like the Tesla units but using airmont hardware with the native 4G support.
Of course, all of the above is my opinion only gained through my own personal experience with each of these units. Its entirely possible that someone else's experience my contradict mine. Also, the market is vast and I think I did a good job combing it but it's very possible that I missed some other type of headunit. If so I'd love to know so I can see if it fits my needs.
Hope this helps!
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Thanks for the info.
I was looking for Tesla style HU but I think it won't fit in my car and it's quite expensive.
What i'm looking for now it's the dasaita MAX6, which seems to be the best product. I see a lot of other product which correspond for me but i'm quite sceptic about the quality of these and dasaita seems to be a better choice.
Hi there,
Recently I bought a PX4 to replace my PX5 radio in my car, a Fiat Punto Evo. The PX5 did work as it should, but I was looking for something new and fresh. Since the PX4 is based on newer technology, and Android 11, I thought this was a step forward. This is an Isudar unit by the way.
However. I noticed the headunit isn't that great. I usually use 2-3 apps (Spotify, Google Maps/Waze and Flitsmeister, a navigational tool for speedtraps and so on) and the radio doesn't perform well when I have these apps opened. Google Maps crashes a lot of times, Flitsmeister freezes and when I want to go back to the homescreen, the screen flickers a few times back and forth. Also, it does reboot all of a sudden.
There is not a possibility to flash or update it since there is zero to little knowledge of the PX4. I'm thinking of the following options:
- Buy a PX6 board and swap it in
- Buy a PX6 headunit
- Maybe there is an alternative
What is a reliable brand in this sector? I see a lot of brands but I don't see the difference...
Cheers,
Jacco
There is no px4 and you don't say if it really is an MTCD type because you haven't posted enough information such as MCU type.
Brands mean little to nothing as the all sell from various factories and are no real "brands" for these Chinese units, only factories.
You want a 7862UIS FYT (4gb+) unit such as what mekede / navifly sell (type 116) These are much less buggy than mtcd type units and you don't need hacky modded firmware to make them work.
Well, there is, it's a RK3566 based one, MTCH_GS_V3.80_3.
https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/1005003076011564.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.3d87355fOPaJSb&algo_pvid=d3ae804c-2a61-4fd9-80ae-8d3578cec8c8&algo_exp_id=d3ae804c-2a61-4fd9-80ae-8d3578cec8c8-16
I will look into those, thanks for that one!
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Well, there is, it's a RK3566 based one, MTCH_GS_V3.80_3.
https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/1005003076011564.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.3d87355fOPaJSb&algo_pvid=d3ae804c-2a61-4fd9-80ae-8d3578cec8c8&algo_exp_id=d3ae804c-2a61-4fd9-80ae-8d3578cec8c8-16
I will look into those, thanks for that one!
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Just for clarity, there is no PX4. The unit linked clearly lists PX6.
I no longer recommend the MTCx platform.
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Just for clarity, there is no PX4. The unit linked clearly lists PX6.
I no longer recommend the MTCx platform.
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Well, actually the details list two options, a PX4 one and a PX6...
But @marchnz is correct in both accounts
1) PX4 is something this guys invented, and is not widely used/accepted (yet). Regarding the CPU they are using, seems to be a slightly improvement/update to the PX5... but very slight improvement (newer tech, more speed per CPU, but less CPUs overall)
2) Even if you go to PX6, those CPUs are old compared to 7862UIS... so buying today a PX6 would be a bad investment. If you really want to reuse the unit and only invest on a CPU board, the only option will be to wait for those manufacturers to adopt the latest chip RK3588 (which has a version RK3588S that looks a lot like a car-oriented chip, even with a CAN bus interface). Of course, you might wait for months and there is no assurance that your MTC-H mainboard will be compatible with it.
By the way, PX5 and PX30 were real Rockchip car-oriented official products. I have never seen any Rockchip original document referring to RK3399 as PX6. I only see this nomenclature on the Android-Auto chinese sites. So, don't kill us if in a few weeks every chinese vendor starts to call RK3566 as PX4
Indeed, I thought the PX4 would be a slight improvement because of the newer technology, but the opposite is true, it's horrendous.
No, a PX6 would be a bad choice. the 7862UIS option would be great but I see nothing which would fit in my car, and waiting for the RK3588 could last a while with the current chip troubles.
I'm not going to kill anybody, no troubles
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Indeed, I thought the PX4 would be a slight improvement because of the newer technology, but the opposite is true, it's horrendous.
No, a PX6 would be a bad choice. the 7862UIS option would be great but I see nothing which would fit in my car, and waiting for the RK3588 could last a while with the current chip troubles.
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So, if not reusing the MCU is not a problem for you...what about looking for a 7862UIS with a screen that has the same physical size as your current unit?
All the plastic fascias/stereo-fronts are made (most probably) by the same factory, and then distributed to different radio-manufacturers. Its a very low margin manufacturing business that only works if you do runs with thousands of units produced... is not a business large enough to have multiple providers. So, most probably you will be able to take the fascia of your PX4 and adapt it to any unit (MTC or FYT) as far as the screens are the same size
Hey there!
I'm new to the Topic of Android Head Units, and currently looking to get one for my Kia Ceed SW from 2007 which doesn't even have Bluetooth right now, so i'm looking for some help here. My Budget is around 200-350€ max. and i'd like to get something which would work with my steering wheel buttons. I thought about getting a 7" Unit because i'm not sure if 10" would fit. Shipping from germany would be a + for me, so i don't have to wait long.
I thought about getting an RX6 so i could use the Hal9k stuff, because it looks nice, and i like switching firmwares from time to time. But at the moment everythings still completely open. Every opinion would be greatly apreciated.
Thanks in Advance,
Tho
Do consider a uis7862 FYT (e.g. as sold by navifly/mekede, not endorsing either) they are miles better than the MTCD based units while cheaper than even the most overpriced Dasaita MTCD. A bonus is they sound significantly better too.
You won't regret it, it's the software and the hardware improvements that make a huge difference.
Join us here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...unisoc-ums512-q-a-mods-tips-firmware.4396339/
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Do consider a uis7862 FYT (e.g. as sold by navifly/mekede, not endorsing either) they are miles better than the MTCD based units while cheaper than even the most overpriced Dasaita MTCD. A bonus is they sound significantly better too.
You won't regret it, it's the software and the hardware improvements that make a huge difference.
Join us here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...unisoc-ums512-q-a-mods-tips-firmware.4396339/
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Hey there! Okay, sounds good. But where would i get a unit like that? I think all the ones from Amazon are MTCx ones.
Edit: I did some googleing and the ones from www.joyingauto.eu are not really declared which board it is. Or am i doing something wrong?
Hi, I was just wondering if a canbus decoder made for my car will work on any android head unit. I want to get the Teyes cc3 but it’s not compatible with the trim of my car so would it be possible to use a decoder from AliExpress to make it work. For reference I have the 2013 Honda Accord 9th gen EX-L
Just buy an FYT uis7862 the likes of what mekede, navifly and others sell.
Teyes is a con.
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Hi, I was just wondering if a canbus decoder made for my car will work on any android head unit. I want to get the Teyes cc3 but it’s not compatible with the trim of my car so would it be possible to use a decoder from AliExpress to make it work. For reference I have the 2013 Honda Accord 9th gen EX-L
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Why buy a Teyes if even the trim is not correct?
Anyway: Contact Teyes. All those FYT units support 7-8 (more?) types of CANbus decoders. Just ask them which CANbus decoder would suit best for your car.
surfer63 said:
Why buy a Teyes if even the trim is not correct?
Anyway: Contact Teyes. All those FYT units support 7-8 (more?) types of CANbus decoders. Just ask them which CANbus decoder would suit best for your car.
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I already contacted Teyes and they only said I can only try but they don’t know if it will work. They weren’t able to give me any information. I also want the Teyes one because I think they have the best UI. Ossuret sells the head unit compatible for my trim of car so I’m just curious as to whether I can use a decoder on the Teyes head unit.
marchnz said:
Just buy an FYT uis7862 the likes of what mekede, navifly and others sell.
Teyes is a con.
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What’s wrong with Teyes? I think the closest think to teyes that I’d get if I can’t make teyes work is Ossuret since they provide compatibility and it’s most similar in UI and specs.
A similar question. If I buy any canbus for my Mokka will it work with a Teyes cc3.
Nigel517 said:
A similar question. If I buy any canbus for my Mokka will it work with a Teyes cc3.
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I ordered a canbus for my car and it should arrive by the end of the week so I’ll let you know how my experience goes.
Midnighter427 said:
What’s wrong with Teyes? I think the closest think to teyes that I’d get if I can’t make teyes work is Ossuret since they provide compatibility and it’s most similar in UI and specs.
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Teyes = locked ecosystem.
for one only approved hardware will work with their devices .
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Teyes = locked ecosystem.
for one only approved hardware will work with their devices .
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What do you mean by approved hardware?
Midnighter427 said:
What do you mean by approved hardware?
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like only their branded obd dongles work with their devices, no others.
TEYES CC3
TEYES has released a new flagship, the CC3 with the following specifications. UIS7862 (Unisoc ums512) SOC 8 core 12 nm big.LITTLE with 2 A75 and 6 A55 cores. Up to 6 GB memory and 128 GB of storage. 9 and 10.1 inch 1280 x 720 QLED +2.5D screen...
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faria said:
Teyes = locked ecosystem.
for one only approved hardware will work with their devices .
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What do you mean by approved hardware
faria said:
like only their branded obd dongles work with their devices, no others.
TEYES CC3
TEYES has released a new flagship, the CC3 with the following specifications. UIS7862 (Unisoc ums512) SOC 8 core 12 nm big.LITTLE with 2 A75 and 6 A55 cores. Up to 6 GB memory and 128 GB of storage. 9 and 10.1 inch 1280 x 720 QLED +2.5D screen...
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yeah but most obd2 can connect to phones or have their own screen nowadays.
Midnighter427 said:
What do you mean by approved hardware
yeah but most obd2 can connect to phones or have their own screen nowadays.
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Not just obds dongles!
Teyes is pulling an" Apple" by locking their hardware and software.
By that logic why buy one of these units when most cars have screens "nowadays " or you can just plaster you phone into your dash ,my advice to you, do your research about the unit you want to buy so you don't regret Iater. If the teyes one is what you want by all means get it.
Midnighter427 said:
I ordered a canbus for my car and it should arrive by the end of the week so I’ll let you know how my experience goes.
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Cheers. I've been offered a cc3 but it for a different car. I can buy a dedicated canbus ,leads and dash kit for my car quite cheaply on Ali express. I'm just wondering if they will work with the cc3
faria said:
Not just obds dongles!
Teyes is pulling an" Apple" by locking their hardware and software.
By that logic why buy one of these units when most cars have screens "nowadays " or you can just plaster you phone into your dash ,my advice to you, do your research about the unit you want to buy so you don't regret Iater. If the teyes one is what you want by all means get it.
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Honestly, the only reason I'm really pushing for the CC3 is cuz the UI just looks more flush and better than all other FYT units. I also saw a thread on here that allows you developer access for the cc3 with the pin code provided by another member. The CC3 really has everything I'd see myself needing, Play Store with access to youtube netflix spotify, etc. Obviously the Apple Carplay + Android Auto. Other than those things, I don't see myself needing anything more than that. But out of curiosity, what would I be able to do by getting an open FYT unit as opposed to the CC3 being closed?
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Honestly, the only reason I'm really pushing for the CC3 is cuz the UI just looks more flush and better than all other FYT units. I also saw a thread on here that allows you developer access for the cc3 with the pin code provided by another member. The CC3 really has everything I'd see myself needing, Play Store with access to youtube netflix spotify, etc. Obviously the Apple Carplay + Android Auto. Other than those things, I don't see myself needing anything more than that. But out of curiosity, what would I be able to do by getting an open FYT unit as opposed to the CC3 being closed?
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I'm not versed enough to answer your question directly but there are some things like this (which Might also work on cc3).
I personally would avoid teyes because i like as much control over devices as possible (adds to future proofing imo)
[AllAppUpdate] PeaceOS - FYT UIS7862(s)/UIS8581a only for 1280x720
I give out a joke of humor... PeaceOS (beta) - FYT UIS7862(s)/UIS8581a only for 1280x720. Hello everyone, I present my draft assembly for the FYT UIS7862(s) platform with a resolution of 1280x720. I'm a beginner modder so don't expect too much...
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Also this
Pretty sure this won't work with cc3
[KERNEL] FYT 7862 and 8581 kernel MD-EDITION with FMC
Hi community I'm happy to introduce Kernel MD-EDITION for FYT 7862 units. This firmware is built into the latest kernel released on 2022-12-09. Internal mods: Improved SPRD parameters to use more GPU to render instead of consuming CPU for...
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Midnighter427 said:
Honestly, the only reason I'm really pushing for the CC3 is cuz the UI just looks more flush and better than all other FYT units. I also saw a thread on here that allows you developer access for the cc3 with the pin code provided by another member. The CC3 really has everything I'd see myself needing, Play Store with access to youtube netflix spotify, etc. Obviously the Apple Carplay + Android Auto. Other than those things, I don't see myself needing anything more than that. But out of curiosity, what would I be able to do by getting an open FYT unit as opposed to the CC3 being closed?
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All the FYT 7862 units offer everything you mentioned. They all have access to the same developer options. They all have the Play Store, with access to the same apps. They all have the carlink app giving access to Carplay & Android Auto.
The only physical thing the CC3 has that the others don't is a gyroscope which is only really used to make the image of a car turn on 1 of their launchers. The gyro can be added to any unit.
The main difference with the Teyes is their locked down eco system and their UI. If you think their UI is worth so much more money then yes buy the CC3.
Teyes do their firmware/kernels in a unique way where the apps (usually inside the AllAppUpdate.bin file) are embedded within the 6315_1.zip kernel.
It means you can only install updates from Teyes and every update pretty much wipes the unit.
Teyes have been breaking more than they've been fixing with their recent updates, with 1 of the latest ones breaking WiFi and GPS.
I prefer to have the ability to customize my unit, including using Marios excellent MD Edition kernel. I like having the option of downloading the most recent kernel no matter what reseller released it.
I can easily customise my unit to look similar to Teyes if I wanted.
The CC3 was nearly twice the price of what I paid for my Mekede/Navifly unit. I could add 100 gyroscopes for that price.
Personally I wouldn't pay twice the price for what is essentially just a theme/skin, with added restrictions.
The good thing is there's plenty of info around about the differences between Teyes and non Teyes FYT units for you to make a comparison.
It's your money so you have the option to buy whatever 1 you want.
j0hn83 said:
All the FYT 7862 units offer everything you mentioned. They all have access to the same developer options. They all have the Play Store, with access to the same apps. They all have the carlink app giving access to Carplay & Android Auto.
The only physical thing the CC3 has that the others don't is a gyroscope which is only really used to make the image of a car turn on 1 of their launchers. The gyro can be added to any unit.
The main difference with the Teyes is their locked down eco system and their UI. If you think their UI is worth so much more money then yes buy the CC3.
Teyes do their firmware/kernels in a unique way where the apps (usually inside the AllAppUpdate.bin file) are embedded within the 6315_1.zip kernel.
It means you can only install updates from Teyes and every update pretty much wipes the unit.
Teyes have been breaking more than they've been fixing with their recent updates, with 1 of the latest ones breaking WiFi and GPS.
I prefer to have the ability to customize my unit, including using Marios excellent MD Edition kernel. I like having the option of downloading the most recent kernel no matter what reseller released it.
I can easily customise my unit to look similar to Teyes if I wanted.
The CC3 was nearly twice the price of what I paid for my Mekede/Navifly unit. I could add 100 gyroscopes for that price.
Personally I wouldn't pay twice the price for what is essentially just a theme/skin, with added restrictions.
The good thing is there's plenty of info around about the differences between Teyes and non Teyes FYT units for you to make a comparison.
It's your money so you have the option to buy whatever 1 you want.
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I 100% agree with this post.
No wrong: I 200% agree with this post.