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You're a power user. Can the OnePlus 2 keep up? Rate this thread to express how "healthy" the development scene is for the OnePlus 2. A higher rating indicates available root methods, kernels, and custom ROMs.
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I think the oneplus2 wont get the development as opo got. Most of the developers are selling their phones(eg. ak). Its really sad as I bought this phone expecting a healthy development community. And the worst part is , I have to use this phone for at least 2 years now

I miss OPO dev community
No official CM, no OxygenOS sources...

I'm quite disappointed to be honest. Coming from a Nexus 5 i was expecting to have Marshmallow by now.. No custom roms really that are worth installing. Also saw on oneplus forums that ~30 developers were going to develop for this phone. Where are they...

Beagan said:
I'm quite disappointed to be honest. Coming from a Nexus 5 i was expecting to have Marshmallow by now.. No custom roms really that are worth installing. Also saw on oneplus forums that ~30 developers were going to develop for this phone. Where are they...
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Same here, coming from a Nexus 4 :/

Coming from a Nexus 4 I'm somewhat disappointed as well but it's not that bad, CM is really stable and faster than Oxygen, maybe things will get better after official Marshmallow update

Its just a shame. The community they have over with the OPO is great. But here not so much. Hopefully they'll release the source code for the laser and fingerprint scanner. I'm not that hopeful though. I have my nexus 5 for 2 years. The longest I've kept a phone for and that was because of the development community

I just want to see MultiROM and Ubuntu for smartphones on OPT, but until now my OPT is fully stock..

I wouldn't even care if I stayed with stock as long as i had marsallow and the updates were fast. Oxygen is almost completely stock..

I still dont understand why they havent release the source code for this phone...
Oxygen, although is good, is lack a kicking ass power that can be brought by other custom rom and kernel... ::sigh
I really expect this development community will be as big as OPO... C'monn oneplus, be more reasonable, and dont overrate ypurself too much. You are just a little company without community support. Its the community that make OPO one of the best phone ever after all

I'd like to see what other people think about this. I can't really make or break a device

What are you guys saying? The community development is healthy. OnePlus did say they will release the source code for the finger print scanner when marshmallow is released. Releasing it right now for the Lollipop version would only be short lived since marshmallow will come out

This is such a pointless thread. The reason development is almost non-existent is due to the drivers for the fingerprint sensor and laser auto focus not being made publicly available. Once those are available with the Marshmallow update, then the development for this phone will take off. Its a matter of patience.

Development is going good. To justify the absence of the fingerprint scanner and laser autofocus codes as lack of development is inaccurate lol
ONeplus did say that the reason the codes for the fingerprint scanner were not released because the device is about to get the Marshmallow update. THey will begin to release it upon update. Patience my comrades

ak is selling his OPT? Whaaaaat?

I really wanted Oneplus 2 to be the Nexus killer.. but it seems that will never be true.

lurker316 said:
I really wanted Oneplus 2 to be the Nexus killer.. but it seems that will never be true.
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OP2 will never be a nexus killer. Its not a 2016 Flagship killer as they marketed it, hell its not even a 2015 flagship killer. But Its a one hell of a device. Great looks, good performance, its a decent little package. Only thing that's missing now is the community support. I know it still sucks that there isn't a CM13 rom yet. I have high hopes that this is gonna change with the official Android M update. The complete source will be available soon. Since the OP2 is available now without invite I guess more devs will get their hands on the device.
Stay positive guys. Cheers.

gobig89 said:
This is such a pointless thread. The reason development is almost non-existent is due to the drivers for the fingerprint sensor and laser auto focus not being made publicly available. Once those are available with the Marshmallow update, then the development for this phone will take off. Its a matter of patience.
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shigi1231 said:
What are you guys saying? The community development is healthy. OnePlus did say they will release the source code for the finger print scanner when marshmallow is released. Releasing it right now for the Lollipop version would only be short lived since marshmallow will come out
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i do agree with you both to some extent BUT i do think that OnePlus really dropped the ball. people don't want to wait 6-8 months for custom roms and in the time it takes OnePlus to release its code and for development to pick up, a lot of new devices came or will come to market (Moto X, Nexus etc..). the reason the OPO was so great is that it had good hardware and development was strong so it gave you options. the OPT also has great hardware but a lot of people myself included find Oxygen OS to be sub par and without any other option (i don't consider flashing a different rom and losing critical features a viable option), the phone becomes a lot less attractive.
considering the fact that OnePlus said that M will be coming in Q1 (i think that we can safetly assume end of march), waiting another 4 months seems a bit too much.

Rattles said:
i do agree with you both to some extent BUT i do think that OnePlus really dropped the ball. people don't want to wait 6-8 months for custom roms and in the time it takes OnePlus to release its code and for development to pick up, a lot of new devices came or will come to market (Moto X, Nexus etc..). the reason the OPO was so great is that it had good hardware and development was strong so it gave you options. the OPT also has great hardware but a lot of people myself included find Oxygen OS to be sub par and without any other option (i don't consider flashing a different rom and losing critical features a viable option), the phone becomes a lot less attractive.
considering the fact that OnePlus said that M will be coming in Q1 (i think that we can safetly assume end of march), waiting another 4 months seems a bit too much.
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Soon.. MM is coming from CM 13.. A official build is coming.. CM team is working on it..

Mehul.S said:
Soon.. MM is coming from CM 13.. A official build is coming.. CM team is working on it..
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i hope that you are right, i HATE Oxygen OS.

Custom ROM for Mate 9 Pro?

There are lots of interesting alt roms for the Mate 9. Has anyone developed (or be willing to develop) a custom rom for thr Pro? Pretty please!
The poor pro is being left behind... I realise this is largely because of limited geographic release but it's a great phone which deserves some attention. I'm not sure how ewsy/difficult it is to adapt the mate 9 custom roms for the Mate 9 pro... Or perhaps there are some Pro owner developers out there.
FYI I'm currently running LON-L29C636B225. Latest version appears to be B229.
Thanks in advance, and apologies if I missed something on this that has been posted already.

Did you tried to install a Mate 9 Rom?
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Blackball said:
Did you tried to install a Mate 9 Rom?
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No. I have asked on threads if a mate 9 rom would work on mate 9 pro and generally got a response of no or 'not sure'. Given that the correct region also seems to be important to make these roms work, I really didn't want to risk flashing a mate 9 image on my mate 9 pro in case of bricking. The twrp I flashed is also different from the standard mate 9 version.

I saw that KangVip build a rom for Mate9/pro...
http://club.huawei.com/forum.php?mod=forumdisplay&fid=2698&filter=typeid&typeid=4298

Isn't it just a different screen size/resolution? That shouldn't be a problem software size. I would imagine.

bejam said:
There are lots of interesting alt roms for the Mate 9. Has anyone developed (or be willing to develop) a custom rom for thr Pro? Pretty please!
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you should know that huawei phones will never have many if any custom roms. the few that have custom roms like the honor 8/P9 are loosing interest from the few devs that are trying to build roms. oreo might fix that but like i said, devs are loosing interest fast.
im waiting to see the pixel 2 and the LG v30. those will have great hardware and will have a huge custom rom support. never again huawei!

droidbot1337 said:
you should know that huawei phones will never have many if any custom roms. the few that have custom roms like the honor 8/P9 are loosing interest from the few devs that are trying to build roms. oreo might fix that but like i said, devs are loosing interest fast.
im waiting to see the pixel 2 and the LG v30. those will have great hardware and will have a huge custom rom support. never again huawei!
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Based on your response, why did YOU yourself even bother purchasing a Huawei device when you knew that rom development was going to lack?
I already knew for months before purchasing mine that ROM development was going to be small or basically non existent and I've been a ROM flasher for many many years, this is the first device I've ever own that I didn't have to root or even flash a ROM, seems you're pretty much unsatisfied because you can't flash any custom ROMs compared to other devices

XERO_Racer said:
Based on your response, why did YOU yourself even bother purchasing a Huawei device when you knew that rom development was going to lack?
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my only huawei devices have been the mate 7 which i bought brand new and a gifted bartered honor 5x and honor 8. i got rid 2 of them as soon as i could. the honor 5x is the only one i still have due to it having a snapdragon soc and a big custom rom selection.
had someone warned me about the mate 7 i would have not bought it but lesson learned. as i have stated many times, huawei hardware is great but their software is complete ****! thankfully huawei is becoming less popular on xda due to them going back on their word about providing major updates for 2 years.
to each their own i guess. you can stick with your huawei devices but most will never take hauwei serious for good reasons. LG v30 FTW!!!

droidbot1337 said:
my only huawei devices have been the mate 7 which i bought brand new and a gifted bartered honor 5x and honor 8. i got rid 2 of them as soon as i could. the honor 5x is the only one i still have due to it having a snapdragon soc and a big custom rom selection.
had someone warned me about the mate 7 i would have not bought it but lesson learned. as i have stated many times, huawei hardware is great but their software is complete ****! thankfully huawei is becoming less popular on xda due to them going back on their word about providing major updates for 2 years.
to each their own i guess. you can stick with your huawei devices but most will never take hauwei serious for good reasons. LG v30 FTW!!!
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Little bit of V30 fanboyism there?
EMUI 5.0 has never been a hiccup for me it's infact the best UI I have experienced so far alot better than 4.0.
Sucks to be you, should've done the research if you knew what you were getting yourself into but you learned it the hard way, but each to their own.
I rather have a device that rarely anyone knows about VS a phone or a brand that everyone knows, have fun with your V30, cuz I'm pretty content where I'm at, no need to go batsh** over what ROM has marginally better battery life or what kernel provided better performance or signal strength with modem files. TBH at least some credibility is due for them for actually polishing up EMUI, if they didn't care this brand wouldn't get far ?

Blackball said:
I saw that KangVip build a rom for Mate9/pro...
http://club.huawei.com/forum.php?mod=forumdisplay&fid=2698&filter=typeid&typeid=4298
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Great - I didn't know about this one! The only challenge for me is the Chinese forum. I know I can google transalte but it is still a bit of a struggle - especiall;y to post questions etc.
I was hoping that some of the custom versions for the Mate 9 could easily be adapted for the Pro. I guess the Pro is a mainly Chinese audience. Depsite these ROMs being based on EMUI, I was pleased of late to see that more of them are coming out. Just not for the pro!
I also notice that the kernel source has been released. Although those experimenting are still experiencing some issues with it. https://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-9/how-to/kernel-source-t3639912
But hopefully this means renewed iinterest from developes for an ASOP ROM for both mate 9 and the Pro!

Lack of developer ROMs for the Mi Mix 2S

Curious as to why we aren't really seeing any developer ROMs for this phone. Is it because not many people purchased it, or because of Xiaomi? It can't be due to the 845 chipset since the OnePlus6 has plenty of development at this point already.

Mainly because the code is recent and needs some work , lineage is working on it plus some other devs. Be patient.

Hyapatia said:
Mainly because the code is recent and needs some work , lineage is working on it plus some other devs. Be patient.
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Okay good, I was just worried we wouldn't see any. Hopefully they can work around the anti-rollback as well. It seems there are some recoveries for the Redmi Note 5 that allows for custom ROM installation.

why so "less" development ?

as the title says i wonder why there is so "little" development for the i9lite going on
i thought a device with this great specs for such a little price would be very interesting, but when you look at similar devices as the 9t or 9t pro there is a lot more of development
don't get me wrong i really thank all the devs that work on the i9lite right now, but i am a little bit worried as the a2 lite i have right now is also a great device but without much development there are only a few custom roms and and a hardly working twrp for it
my i 9lite is actually on the way to me, but right now i am really afraid that i will get in the same problem as with the a2 lite that there is absolutely no interest for the devs to work for this device.
Maybe the 9t(pro) would have been the better decision regarding this, but i really do not like the front cam of the T devices
I wish i could do a little developing for custom roms myself but i do not have the skills :crying: -
what do you guys think about it or you you have no concerns in this direction and you are really happy with the i9lite an how things are at the moment ?

I'm the same as you, waiting for mine to arrive.
Moving from Moto g5 plus it looks pretty quiet here.
I hope we can get a decent gcam at least

I don't know about other countries but in France the Mi 9 Lite just started becoming available through carriers. It might be that there are just less people equipped with that phone for now. I will also get a Mi 9 lite, there is already Lineage and GSI, so the roms I'm most interested in are there already.

Just reading from telegram group. One developer (coderzs)is ready to make base tree(I'm not sure of the term),also a recognized developer of mia2 lineage and other custom rom fo a2. But they trying to raise fund to get the device. I think it's just a matter of time and we can see a lot custom here in xda. Just follow the telegram group,search for mi9t lite/Cc9 global.

For there to be active development and/or many developers, the device must be widely available and relatively popular. You can't expect all those things to be a fact barely few months after device release. Seeing as it has great specs and is reasonably priced, it's just a matter of time until the device becomes interesting to developers.
Also, a word of advice - nobody likes doing stuff for free for a pushy user base.

shhnedo said:
Also, a word of advice - nobody likes doing stuff for free for a pushy user base.
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that is absolutly clear, also i really apriciate all the work that the devs do in their freetime and for free, my opening post is absolutly not meant in this direction.
i am grateful that there is this great modding community that gives us a lot of opportunities that the manufacturers themselves do not even they get paid for it.
i am only worried as custom roms is the only way to have a long life for the smartphone as you still get new android versions when the manufacturer is only releasing security updates or nothing at all at a certain point.
so i hope you are right and that its only a matter of time
@Kadyo
a that sounds interesting i hope i can find this group as i am not so familiar with this telegram, i would also like to spend a certain amount to get the i9lite for the dev (maybe you can pm me the group if its not against xda's rules)

ilovebytes said:
that is absolutly clear, also i really apriciate all the work that the devs do in their freetime and for free, my opening post is absolutly not meant in this direction.
i am grateful that there is this great modding community that gives us a lot of opportunities that the manufacturers themselves do not even they get paid for it.
i am only worried as custom roms is the only way to have a long life for the smartphone as you still get new android versions when the manufacturer is only releasing security updates or nothing at all at a certain point.
so i hope you are right and that its only a matter of time
@Kadyo
a that sounds interesting i hope i can find this group as i am not so familiar with this telegram, i would also like to spend a certain amount to get the i9lite for the dev (maybe you can pm me the group if its not against xda's rules)
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MOD EDIT: Telegram link removed, read the STICKY!

A huge factor in ROM development is the geographic area in which the device is popular. Most developers for Xiaomi phones are from India which is an incredibly competitive market where, frankly, this phone makes little sense: the Mi 9T with basically the same specs is only marginally more expensive, and the latest Redmi is waaaaaaay cheaper. Now, in Europe the Mi 9 Lite makes more sense for the price bracket it's in, but for some reason the developer scene in European countries is lackluster at best. Fortunately, Russia is another country famously active for Android developing and, apparently, this phone is doing fairly well there.
As someone mentioned early, we're currently trying to buy and send a Mi 9 Lite to a ROM developer, so depending on how this ends we may be able to get this forum moving a bit
In the meantime, my standard response is the usual: if you really can't stand MIUI, give GSIs a shot! They're far better than I thought!

iuliusdeblobbis said:
Most developers for Xiaomi phones are from India which is an incredibly competitive market where, frankly, this phone makes little sense: the Mi 9T with basically the same specs is only marginally more expensive, and the latest Redmi is waaaaaaay cheaper. Now, in Europe the Mi 9 Lite makes more sense for the price bracket it's in
As someone mentioned early, we're currently trying to buy and send a Mi 9 Lite to a ROM developer, so depending on how this ends we may be able to get this forum moving a bit
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It's not yet released in India, is it? That might also be a reason for why there's not a lot going on yet. I do think it is weirdly priced in Europe as well. It's a bit disheartening to see there's not a lot going on (yet, hopefully!) in terms of custom ROMs, but I've never used a custom ROM before on either of my phone and I don't intend to play around with ROMs anyway.
But nice to hear you guys try to get a phone to a ROM developer!

thanks for all your suggestions and opinions so far, will try to get onto telegram this weekend and see how this works.

I've Purchased Mi9Lite About 2 Month Ago(Iran- From Abu Dubai) , Device is Great For Price (350-400$ In My Country! ) in Compare to other devices like RN8P
But development???
There's Even No Ported Gcam For Mi9Lite and Stock Camera Quality is awful
Custom Roms? Hmmn I'd rather to use more stable versions
But there's still a hope, In Russian Forums (4pda) some devs r developing kangaroo kernel for this device
MIUI Rom Are So Smooth but have little bugs and they're annoying like app freezing while using VPN!

amirinjast said:
There's Even No Ported Gcam For Mi9Lite and Stock Camera Quality is awful
Custom Roms? Hmmn I'd rather to use more stable versions
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-cc9/development

we have the basics, which is TWRP and a way to flash GSIs, there's not really any need for anything else tbh, the days of specific devices development are behind

I bought mi 9 lite for 217$ month ago. This is the best choice of Mi9/Mi9T because of its price and card slot.
This smartfon had working LOS 2 months after world release! Now LOS is ebought mature for use it as daily driver. With ported gcam is absolutely amasing. My old xperia z3c waited years for first LOS, and up to 5 years for OFFICIAL version of LOS.
If Mi9 will sell itself very good, we will see many other custom roms.
I will stay with LOS, because is the best for me.

VyktorJonas said:
we have the basics, which is TWRP and a way to flash GSIs, there's not really any need for anything else tbh, the days of specific devices development are behind
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Even with GSI, I could not make the camera work satisfactorily and rom to pass the safetynet, and the statusbar does not display the icons properly ...

I have the mi a3 and I'm looking at the 9 lite for the bigger and more high res screen. But yeah there's definitely more development for the a3 though it was officially launched in September vs July (according to gsmarena). I do hope we get more devs for this phone, because it seems like a good one. I'm already stretching my budget with the 9 lite. I don't want to stretch more with the 9t

It's just not that popular as other devices are right now..
I just purchased it though, looking nice, when I get it first thing I'll do will be unlocking BL.

I think this phone has not released yet (or released very recently) in India, this will boost activity a lot.

Just kinda surprised custom recovery is not at the official twrp site yet.

xzn1 said:
It's not yet released in India, is it? That might also be a reason for why there's not a lot going on yet. I do think it is weirdly priced in Europe as well. It's a bit disheartening to see there's not a lot going on (yet, hopefully!) in terms of custom ROMs, but I've never used a custom ROM before on either of my phone and I don't intend to play around with ROMs anyway.
But nice to hear you guys try to get a phone to a ROM developer!
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Mi Cc9 was released in India 9 months ago or so. The Mi9 Lite is a rebranded CC9. The specs are all the same afaik.
I made a mistake. See the next reply.

For which phone exist the most Custom Roms

Im currently lokking for a new phone to replace my Xiaomi Mi Mix 3. I was really disappointed to see mod support drop after a couple of months after release so this became a factor considering when buying a new device.
Which smartphone got the most regularly updated custom roms?
Which productline is known for longtime support?
Which company is known to support modding?
Best Regards

xN&5NP said:
Im currently lokking for a new phone to replace my Xiaomi Mi Mix 3. I was really disappointed to see mod support drop after a couple of months after release so this became a factor considering when buying a new device.
Which smartphone got the most regularly updated custom roms?
Which productline is known for longtime support?
Which company is known to support modding?
Best Regards
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definitely NOT HTC

Google Pixel.

CamoGeko said:
Google Pixel.
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I agree, of all phones in the past the Google Pixel received the most custom development and custom roms.
Of today's generation, I think the OnePlus 6T might be contender. That thing is a tank and great to develop for.

ok thank you guys

Nexus's had many in it's day! Now the OnePlus series does well...