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Being that the Mix 2s had been released for a good few months now and it supports project treble I expected at least a test ROM by now.
I currenctly own a Mi5s and must say that the S never got the support that the Mi5 did. Even from Xiaomi themself. Do people expect this to happen with the mix 2S as well?
I'm curious since I'm looking for a new device. Tried the Oneplus 6 a couple of day but I didn't convince me enough. Now looking at the Mix 2S and Mi8, but LOS is a big deal for me.
There is a whole separate subforum dedicated to project treble development on Xda, all the roms are there, look it up.
Device specific roms are not yet available because Qualcomm hasn't released the sdm845 sources yet.
This is exactly the reason why I went with the OP6 instead.
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This is exactly the reason why I went with the OP6 instead.
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Yes because there are already tons of roms for the 1+6. Oh wait... People are waiting for the 845 sources, this is why there are no roms currently. There are also no roms for the 1+6 currently, only modified stock ones
Mi5 (SD820) -> Mi5s (SD821, an overclocked antecessor)
Mix 2 (SD835) -> Mix 2s (SD845, a newer generation)
Although the kernel source is available, there aren't any projects, custom roms/kernels, no miui modifications and barely working custom recovery.. I get it the device is new but so are other devices that have so much projects... But why is our device so empty? I bet it has a huge potential for custom teams..
Xiaomi isn't interested in actively supporting independent ROM development for their devices. The reason there is a lot of development for One Plus phones is that One Plus sends free phones to developers. Xiaomi does not do that and wants its customers to use the stock ROM. Official LOS is supposedly in development for the Mix 2S but if you need custom ROMs you bought the wrong phone. In the future you should probably see what the development thread looks like before buying.
What about other Xiaomi devices? They have custom support.
Well the custom recovery is actually working pretty good. You can use the treble roms, rr is daily driver ready... Currently there are people working on aosp for our device, when we have a working aosp other roms will follow based on it
If you look into how many devices were sold, you'll figure out why so little development.
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If you look into how many devices were sold, you'll figure out why so little development.
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I can see that, but it's definitely surprising how few official developer ROMs (zero) have been released since this phone has been in existence. I know it's been stated that developers are working on it, but I haven't seen anything.
The camera is the constraining factor. No point having a good custom ROM if there is no GCam or MIUI camera port because you could have got a much cheaper phone if you don't care about camera.
I really regret buying this buggy device. Last time I buy something that doesn't run stock Android out of the box.
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The camera is the constraining factor. No point having a good custom ROM if there is no GCam or MIUI camera port because you could have got a much cheaper phone if you don't care about camera.
I really regret buying this buggy device. Last time I buy something that doesn't run stock Android out of the box.
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So you say people buy this phone only because of the good camera?
What cheaper phone could you get with the same performance as 845?
MIUI port already exist, yes for other devices, but it can be made for 2S with a finger snap. Devs just don't have interest in this device, sadly..
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So you say people buy this phone only because of the good camera?
What cheaper phone could you get with the same performance as 845?
MIUI port already exist, yes for other devices, but it can be made for 2S with a finger snap. Devs just don't have interest in this device, sadly..
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I do not care about processor. I just wanted full-screen with no notch and a good camera.
Its strange that there are no devs for this phone? Or its under development?
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Well, we were waiting on you to create one... why isn't it out yet?
Asus devices don't attract much devs (check 5z thread) all devs this year took a op7 pro. By far only op7pro is sd855 device that has multiple custom roms. Mi 9, op7, s10, k20pro nothing so far
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Asus devices don't attract much devs (check 5z thread) all devs this year took a op7 pro. By far only op7pro is sd855 device that has multiple custom roms. Mi 9, op7, s10, k20pro nothing so far
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Mi 9 has official Pixel Experience.
Z6 is out for a very short time, not even released on many markets. I think it's gonna have good ROM scene as Asus sent the phones to Arnova, LineageOS devs and others.
https://www.xda-developers.com/asus-zenfone-6-custom-rom-twrp-lineageos/
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Asus devices don't attract much devs (check 5z thread) all devs this year took a op7 pro. By far only op7pro is sd855 device that has multiple custom roms. Mi 9, op7, s10, k20pro nothing so far
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5z has issue with the source code for RIL.
Eventually, they manage to get it working. Now many custom rom will follow soon.
mickey36736 said:
5z has issue with the source code for RIL.
Eventually, they manage to get it working. Now many custom rom will follow soon.
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I hope man, i can see how community is dying comparing to golden days of galaxy s3, nexus 5, s4 miss those days man?
I hope this phone will finally get good support from developers, now I'm consider if I should buy OP 7 pro with its many issues but great support or go for Zenfone 6...
sonderling said:
I hope this phone will finally get good support from developers, now I'm consider if I should buy OP 7 pro with its many issues but great support or go for Zenfone 6...
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A bunch of developers received free phones a month or so ago
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.xda-developers.com/asus-zenfone-6-custom-rom-twrp-lineageos/amp/
I guess that with so few phones in the hands of consumers things might take a while to get going....
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A bunch of developers received free phones a month or so ago
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.xda-developers.com/asus-zenfone-6-custom-rom-twrp-lineageos/amp/
I guess that with so few phones in the hands of consumers things might take a while to get going....
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Yep, I've heard about that sometime ago... But till now, I don't see that the support has increased.
I can't talk about Z6 in particular, but lack of Roms for many devices is one massive problem these days. In the past we had a dozen of popular devices on the market and everyone was developing Roms and keep them updated. Today we have hundreds of different devices available, so it's nearly impossible to develop Roms and keep them updated to most of the devices.
I wish it was like 5/10 years ago when we had no problems at all deciding which device we should buy and had a lot of available Roms for them.
Support for the Zenfone 6 is coming as Asus is changing their politics towards custom development. It will come, just let's encourage the devs!
There's a rom just released
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as the title says i wonder why there is so "little" development for the i9lite going on
i thought a device with this great specs for such a little price would be very interesting, but when you look at similar devices as the 9t or 9t pro there is a lot more of development
don't get me wrong i really thank all the devs that work on the i9lite right now, but i am a little bit worried as the a2 lite i have right now is also a great device but without much development there are only a few custom roms and and a hardly working twrp for it
my i 9lite is actually on the way to me, but right now i am really afraid that i will get in the same problem as with the a2 lite that there is absolutely no interest for the devs to work for this device.
Maybe the 9t(pro) would have been the better decision regarding this, but i really do not like the front cam of the T devices
I wish i could do a little developing for custom roms myself but i do not have the skills :crying: -
what do you guys think about it or you you have no concerns in this direction and you are really happy with the i9lite an how things are at the moment ?
I'm the same as you, waiting for mine to arrive.
Moving from Moto g5 plus it looks pretty quiet here.
I hope we can get a decent gcam at least
I don't know about other countries but in France the Mi 9 Lite just started becoming available through carriers. It might be that there are just less people equipped with that phone for now. I will also get a Mi 9 lite, there is already Lineage and GSI, so the roms I'm most interested in are there already.
Just reading from telegram group. One developer (coderzs)is ready to make base tree(I'm not sure of the term),also a recognized developer of mia2 lineage and other custom rom fo a2. But they trying to raise fund to get the device. I think it's just a matter of time and we can see a lot custom here in xda. Just follow the telegram group,search for mi9t lite/Cc9 global.
For there to be active development and/or many developers, the device must be widely available and relatively popular. You can't expect all those things to be a fact barely few months after device release. Seeing as it has great specs and is reasonably priced, it's just a matter of time until the device becomes interesting to developers.
Also, a word of advice - nobody likes doing stuff for free for a pushy user base.
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Also, a word of advice - nobody likes doing stuff for free for a pushy user base.
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that is absolutly clear, also i really apriciate all the work that the devs do in their freetime and for free, my opening post is absolutly not meant in this direction.
i am grateful that there is this great modding community that gives us a lot of opportunities that the manufacturers themselves do not even they get paid for it.
i am only worried as custom roms is the only way to have a long life for the smartphone as you still get new android versions when the manufacturer is only releasing security updates or nothing at all at a certain point.
so i hope you are right and that its only a matter of time
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a that sounds interesting i hope i can find this group as i am not so familiar with this telegram, i would also like to spend a certain amount to get the i9lite for the dev (maybe you can pm me the group if its not against xda's rules)
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that is absolutly clear, also i really apriciate all the work that the devs do in their freetime and for free, my opening post is absolutly not meant in this direction.
i am grateful that there is this great modding community that gives us a lot of opportunities that the manufacturers themselves do not even they get paid for it.
i am only worried as custom roms is the only way to have a long life for the smartphone as you still get new android versions when the manufacturer is only releasing security updates or nothing at all at a certain point.
so i hope you are right and that its only a matter of time
@Kadyo
a that sounds interesting i hope i can find this group as i am not so familiar with this telegram, i would also like to spend a certain amount to get the i9lite for the dev (maybe you can pm me the group if its not against xda's rules)
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MOD EDIT: Telegram link removed, read the STICKY!
A huge factor in ROM development is the geographic area in which the device is popular. Most developers for Xiaomi phones are from India which is an incredibly competitive market where, frankly, this phone makes little sense: the Mi 9T with basically the same specs is only marginally more expensive, and the latest Redmi is waaaaaaay cheaper. Now, in Europe the Mi 9 Lite makes more sense for the price bracket it's in, but for some reason the developer scene in European countries is lackluster at best. Fortunately, Russia is another country famously active for Android developing and, apparently, this phone is doing fairly well there.
As someone mentioned early, we're currently trying to buy and send a Mi 9 Lite to a ROM developer, so depending on how this ends we may be able to get this forum moving a bit
In the meantime, my standard response is the usual: if you really can't stand MIUI, give GSIs a shot! They're far better than I thought!
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Most developers for Xiaomi phones are from India which is an incredibly competitive market where, frankly, this phone makes little sense: the Mi 9T with basically the same specs is only marginally more expensive, and the latest Redmi is waaaaaaay cheaper. Now, in Europe the Mi 9 Lite makes more sense for the price bracket it's in
As someone mentioned early, we're currently trying to buy and send a Mi 9 Lite to a ROM developer, so depending on how this ends we may be able to get this forum moving a bit
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It's not yet released in India, is it? That might also be a reason for why there's not a lot going on yet. I do think it is weirdly priced in Europe as well. It's a bit disheartening to see there's not a lot going on (yet, hopefully!) in terms of custom ROMs, but I've never used a custom ROM before on either of my phone and I don't intend to play around with ROMs anyway.
But nice to hear you guys try to get a phone to a ROM developer!
thanks for all your suggestions and opinions so far, will try to get onto telegram this weekend and see how this works.
I've Purchased Mi9Lite About 2 Month Ago(Iran- From Abu Dubai) , Device is Great For Price (350-400$ In My Country! ) in Compare to other devices like RN8P
But development???
There's Even No Ported Gcam For Mi9Lite and Stock Camera Quality is awful
Custom Roms? Hmmn I'd rather to use more stable versions
But there's still a hope, In Russian Forums (4pda) some devs r developing kangaroo kernel for this device
MIUI Rom Are So Smooth but have little bugs and they're annoying like app freezing while using VPN!
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There's Even No Ported Gcam For Mi9Lite and Stock Camera Quality is awful
Custom Roms? Hmmn I'd rather to use more stable versions
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-cc9/development
we have the basics, which is TWRP and a way to flash GSIs, there's not really any need for anything else tbh, the days of specific devices development are behind
I bought mi 9 lite for 217$ month ago. This is the best choice of Mi9/Mi9T because of its price and card slot.
This smartfon had working LOS 2 months after world release! Now LOS is ebought mature for use it as daily driver. With ported gcam is absolutely amasing. My old xperia z3c waited years for first LOS, and up to 5 years for OFFICIAL version of LOS.
If Mi9 will sell itself very good, we will see many other custom roms.
I will stay with LOS, because is the best for me.
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we have the basics, which is TWRP and a way to flash GSIs, there's not really any need for anything else tbh, the days of specific devices development are behind
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Even with GSI, I could not make the camera work satisfactorily and rom to pass the safetynet, and the statusbar does not display the icons properly ...
I have the mi a3 and I'm looking at the 9 lite for the bigger and more high res screen. But yeah there's definitely more development for the a3 though it was officially launched in September vs July (according to gsmarena). I do hope we get more devs for this phone, because it seems like a good one. I'm already stretching my budget with the 9 lite. I don't want to stretch more with the 9t
It's just not that popular as other devices are right now..
I just purchased it though, looking nice, when I get it first thing I'll do will be unlocking BL.
I think this phone has not released yet (or released very recently) in India, this will boost activity a lot.
Just kinda surprised custom recovery is not at the official twrp site yet.
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It's not yet released in India, is it? That might also be a reason for why there's not a lot going on yet. I do think it is weirdly priced in Europe as well. It's a bit disheartening to see there's not a lot going on (yet, hopefully!) in terms of custom ROMs, but I've never used a custom ROM before on either of my phone and I don't intend to play around with ROMs anyway.
But nice to hear you guys try to get a phone to a ROM developer!
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Mi Cc9 was released in India 9 months ago or so. The Mi9 Lite is a rebranded CC9. The specs are all the same afaik.
I made a mistake. See the next reply.
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I join the question. Maybe somebody has an idea about creating custom roms. From the manufacturer's side, there is nothing to count on too much. They gave it a correction from January. About Android 10, nothing is known and it is not known if it spends on this model at all.
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come on developer
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upppp
come on developer
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It's just a fact that some devices are well developed, others aren't.
That depends on the devices the developer own by themselves, that's why every Pixel or One Plus has a lot of development.
I was about to buy a G8+ (I own a Moto G 2014 and a Moto G5+ which are in active development until today) but I saw that nothing was happening here so as I got the chance I bought a Xiaomi mi 9T. It's cheaper than the Pixels and a lot of devs own it.
It's one thing to buy the device of your choice and another thing to have a lot of ROMs, kernels and tweaks to choose from.
You have to make your decision.
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I have seen some AOSP been marked as tested on G8 Plus.. I tried to find out how to install a GSI, but no success yet.. As i understand, the G8 + should be Treble compatible. Have tried to install some AOSP images but it only goes into boot loop..
have you been successful in installing AOSP?
In regard to that matter I don't know if I should buy G8+ or G7+
I hope G8+ will get some good custom firmwares...
I might also consider the purchase of a Realme 5pro for the same price but I don't know how in compares in terms of sturdyness to the moto G.
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It's just a fact that some devices are well developed, others aren't.
That depends on the devices the developer own by themselves, that's why every Pixel or One Plus has a lot of development.
I was about to buy a G8+ (I own a Moto G 2014 and a Moto G5+ which are in active development until today) but I saw that nothing was happening here so as I got the chance I bought a Xiaomi mi 9T. It's cheaper than the Pixels and a lot of devs own it.
It's one thing to buy the device of your choice and another thing to have a lot of ROMs, kernels and tweaks to choose from.
You have to make your decision.
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Doesn't mi show ads on they UI at homescreen, and they also have some privacy issues right?
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Doesn't mi show ads on they UI at homescreen, and they also have some privacy issues right?
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I never had any ads on my homescreen/UI and about ads in general: Even if you don't root your device to get rid of this stuff: It's easy to freeze/deactivate apps that have privacy issues or ads in them.
I used ADB to get rid of the Xiaomi browser (one of the most privacy problematic apps) and several other ones. I'm not rooted atm (will be in the future) but even without root privileges you can use DNS66, Adaway 5 beta or blokada and I see no ads at all.
I was aware of the problems a Xiaomi device could cause but it's more than easy to find ways to solve these problems and I'm happy with the decision to buy the 9T.
I will root it in June when miui 12 comes out and I think that will make things even easier.
Also there are custom ROMs or EU.builds etc.
That's all better than no development. I'm a big fan of the pure Motorola software but without any development the G8 is not the right thing for me.
I don't regret buying that Xiaomi device.