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HI-RES AUDIO on Z3 via USB has vanished

So it seems Sony removed Hi-Res Audio from the Z3 when they changed Walkman to "music".
I have been using the XBA-Z5 earphones and MDR-Z7 headphones through the
PHA-3 Sony amp with Xperia Z3
and the sound with this set up, while not really mobile,
is beyond incredible.
BUT after lollipop the option to use the PHA-3 amp for hi res audio
through UBS is missing.
Here is the old settings page on z3...( sorry Japanese )
and the new one
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Yup not there for some time now.
Sony is promoting their new HiRES player. So they removed it on Z3. They always do that. It's called marketing.

DZH1 said:
So it seems Sony removed Hi-Res Audio from the Z3 when they changed Walkman to "music".
I have been using the XBA-Z5 earphones and MDR-Z7 headphones through the
PHA-3 Sony amp with Xperia Z3
and the sound with this set up, while not really mobile,
is beyond incredible.
BUT after lollipop the option to use the PHA-3 amp for hi res audio
through UBS is missing.
Here is the old settings page on z3...( sorry Japanese )
and the new one
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The option still exists in the latest "Music" app for Kit Kat. The reason why you don't see it in Lollipop is because Lollipop supports sound over usb natively. Kit Kat did not. It was a custom option that Sony added to our phone.
"Android now includes support for standard USB audio peripherals, allowing users to connect USB headsets, speakers, microphones, or other high performance digital peripherals. Android 5.0 also adds support for Opus audio codecs."
https://developer.android.com/about/versions/lollipop.html

Sorry if I bump an old thread but does the USB amplifier works natively like the previous poster said or they removed the functionality? I was thinking about buying one but I'm worried it might not work properly now that the option has vanished.

I would say the above reply is correct, this was simply blended into 5.0 and you no longer need to check the USB box,
it is automatic.
Still, I was inspired to buy a ZX2 walkman in fear we were losing the hi res audio and sadly now no going back, wow.
Now I get why the phone app was changed to "music".
Still, I'd say above issue and this thread issue has been resolved.
Hi Res Audio is still a part of Z3 ( though I noticed they dropped the Hi Res Audio logo when promoting the Z4 in Japan ?? )

DZH1 said:
I would say the above reply is correct, this was simply blended into 5.0 and you no longer need to check the USB box,
it is automatic.
Still, I was inspired to buy a ZX2 walkman in fear we were losing the hi res audio and sadly now no going back, wow.
Now I get why the phone app was changed to "music".
Still, I'd say above issue and this thread issue has been resolved.
Hi Res Audio is still a part of Z3 ( though I noticed they dropped the Hi Res Audio logo when promoting the Z4 in Japan ?? )
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Kind of off-topic but how is that ZX2? Worth the investment?

In my opinion absolutely without question, the sound when used with the correct headphones and amplifiers, and even without the amplifier, is beyond belief incredible. So I would say a very strong absolute yes.
I grabbed the xbaz5- in ears by Sony for when carrying this thing around outdoors, and that too is an incredible experience and also well worth what many are are going to be a ridiculous monetary investment.

While I'm perfectly content with my Z3 and ATH-IM03's, I can only wonder and dream what nearly $2k of portable sound equipment provides to the ears.
I imagine it's something like being cradled by a choir of singing angels in a cloud chapel.

Thanks for the information. I just removed the Music update and gone back to Walkman. Now i´m able to use my DAC again.

One plus 6 and android auto

Has any one tried it with AA ,need to know before I purchase. Cheers

why wouldn't it work? i'll try it now

Thank you there were some saying it does not work if so I’ll get one tomorrow. Cheers

westentertainer said:
Thank you there were some saying it does not work if so I’ll get one tomorrow. Cheers
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that would be a kinda... but i'm using Headunit reloaded not a actual Android Auto
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aspect ratio issues and touch is in wrong place, could be a headunit reloaded bug or might be AA it self.
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i've actually solved that issue now, just need to make sure the notch setting is not set to hidden, then it works fine.

Thank you

There are 2 bug reports about it, 1 is mine with photos the other is someone else's without photos
https://forums.oneplus.com/threads/android-auto-doesnt-work-correctly-when-notch-is-hidden.837721/
https://forums.oneplus.com/threads/hide-notch-feature-conflict-with-android-auto.837460/

I should get mine tomorrow. I'll try it out and report back.
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Has any one tried it with AA ,need to know before I purchase. Cheers
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its working perfectly on my kenwood aftermarket head

THANK YOU. Was going to drive me nuts.

It works for me but it takes over a minute before it starts. The car does more see the device. Skoda Octavia Combi model 2018.
Anyone else has the same slow starts?
EDIT: fixed it! Disabling ADB debugging solves the delay (found out using logcat)

Works fine for me on 2018 Acura. Only issue, as referenced above, is if the notch is hidden, it cuts off the screen on the car's display.

Works fine in my [emoji176]Kia Rio 2018[emoji176]

Had to disable the notch hide... grrrr, works fine, not as snappy as my pixel 2 xl in android auto though, connected to 2018 Jeep

works fine on Chevy Volt 2017.

Yep is fine for me. Was tricky to initially pair but after I changed notch setting it worked. 2017 Mercedes.

Mr_Q said:
It works for me but it takes over a minute before it starts. The car does more see the device. Skoda Octavia Combi model 2018.
Anyone else has the same slow starts?
EDIT: fixed it! Disabling ADB debugging solves the delay (found out using logcat)
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Cool! I've never actually used Android Auto. (Mine's a much older system, so too prehistoric to have smart related stuff, but after seeing this, I'm now seriously thinking of upgrading). Does it give you access to all of the stuff on your android phone, or is it just basic stuff like syncing up music, etc?

AnabolicAndroidz said:
Cool! I've never actually used Android Auto. (Mine's a much older system, so too prehistoric to have smart related stuff, but after seeing this, I'm now seriously thinking of upgrading). Does it give you access to all of the stuff on your android phone, or is it just basic stuff like syncing up music, etc?
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Its a long-ish answer so just download the Android Auto app on your phone and see it in action. What you see on the phone running the app is what you see in the car (aside from integration with steering wheel buttons etc).

Work fine with Skoda Octavia 2018

It mostly works for me but I have to change the connection mode from USB charging to MPT every time I want to connect to my car. Otherwise, it won't detect the phone.
This is with a Honda Accord 2016. The car connection has the same issue with the OnePlus 3T but not with a Motorola phone that I tested.

Mr_Q said:
It works for me but it takes over a minute before it starts. The car does more see the device. Skoda Octavia Combi model 2018.
Anyone else has the same slow starts?
EDIT: fixed it! Disabling ADB debugging solves the delay (found out using logcat)
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RealEvil said:
Its a long-ish answer so just download the Android Auto app on your phone and see it in action. What you see on the phone running the app is what you see in the car (aside from integration with steering wheel buttons etc).
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Oh Ok, this sort of answers my question anyway. (so basically it's more of an app than a built-in full blown Android OS on a car stereo). In other words, limited features rather than a full OS.. Not alot of point for me then if that's all it does. (Mainly I would have used it for music and gps in the car, but I can already do that from my phone easily enough). But if it had been the whole Android OS that does literally everything my phone does, then that would have been totally worth it!
Thanks for the heads up though! What feature do you use yours for mostly?

What is THE best audio quality mod?

As per the title, really.
I have been pretty unhappy with the audio quality of the phone, specially when playing Spotify via Android Auto in the car.
Does anyone have a good recommendation for a module and/or settings that can fix this?
My OnePlus 6 sounded way better under the same conditions - In comparison, the 7 Pro has overpowered and muddy bass, low mid-range and without details and a garbled high frequencies, almost like phased or wrong bitrate of playing.
Mind you, this is with Spotify Premium and set to maximum quality.

I really like Viper for audio (can install via magisk) but over Bluetooth, at max volume it clips heavily with bassy tracks if you have any kind of eq on bass. I remember having the problem with my OP5 and it being fixed with lineage os, but I like stock OOS so I don't want to move right now. If you can find a working dolby atmos install for android 9,thats good too.

manor7777 said:
I really like Viper for audio (can install via magisk) but over Bluetooth, at max volume it clips heavily with bassy tracks if you have any kind of eq on bass. I remember having the problem with my OP5 and it being fixed with lineage os, but I like stock OOS so I don't want to move right now. If you can find a working dolby atmos install for android 9,thats good too.
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Errrr??? The OnePlus 7 Pro has "Dolby Atmos" out of the box, but it sounds like crap.... Don't believe things are what they are just because someone puts a label on it

Jaco2k said:
Errrr??? The OnePlus 7 Pro has "Dolby Atmos" out of the box, but it sounds like crap.... Don't believe things are what they are just because someone puts a label on it
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Not full dolby atmos I'm talking about the one with full custom eq support that the razer phone has. Not the crappy one included.
Intelligent eq off, and using the custom eq. No clipping, great sound.
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Not full dolby atmos I'm talking about the one with full custom eq support that the razer phone has. Not the crappy one included.
Intelligent eq off, and using the custom eq. No clipping, great sound.
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Something exactly like that would help

Ainur souron or narsil

manor7777 said:
I really like Viper for audio (can install via magisk) but over Bluetooth, at max volume it clips heavily with bassy tracks if you have any kind of eq on bass. I remember having the problem with my OP5 and it being fixed with lineage os, but I like stock OOS so I don't want to move right now. If you can find a working dolby atmos install for android 9,thats good too.
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Where did you find your dolby atmos and how did you install?

Just one note - I feel that as long as it is not possible to disable/bypass the built-in Dolby Atmos processing, nothing that is flashed is going to make things better.
OnePlus needs to give us the ability to tweak audio settings or at least bypass that horrid processing they have going on.
The highs in particular sound like a heavily compressed .mp2 (no, not a typo) from the 90's with a 112kbps bit rate.
No idea what is going on with this sound but for many years I did not have a phone that sounded this bad.

vibrantliker said:
Where did you find your dolby atmos and how did you install?
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I didn't. My screenshot was just an example from Google of the correct good sounding version. No version I have seen works with android 9
Jaco2k said:
Just one note - I feel that as long as it is not possible to disable/bypass the built-in Dolby Atmos processing, nothing that is flashed is going to make things better.
OnePlus needs to give us the ability to tweak audio settings or at least bypass that horrid processing they have going on.
The highs in particular sound like a heavily compressed .mp2 (no, not a typo) from the 90's with a 112kbps bit rate.
No idea what is going on with this sound but for many years I did not have a phone that sounded this bad.
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I wish they would. They could give us that version of the app (you can install apks, but they crash on open) with an update, I just don't think they will!

Doesn't this turn off the processing?

k1nggg said:
Doesn't this turn off the processing?
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I believe that option is only available when you have Bluetooth headphones connected, and it only affects Bluetooth headphones.

Jaco2k said:
I believe that option is only available when you have Bluetooth headphones connected, and it only affects Bluetooth headphones.
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Nope, it's available with wired headphones for me.

k1nggg said:
Nope, it's available with wired headphones for me.
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Unfortunately, that much I checked, not there for Android Auto.

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I didn't. My screenshot was just an example from Google of the correct good sounding version. No version I have seen works with android 9
I wish they would. They could give us that version of the app (you can install apks, but they crash on open) with an update, I just don't think they will!
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This rom has a working Dolby Digital Plus that bypasses the stock Dolby on the phone: https://forum.xda-developers.com/one...-v1-0-t3935670.
I'm using now.

No it not. To disable all dolby you need root to do that.

https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/mm-p-dolby-digital-plus-arise-20181115-t3868192
Working Dolby for pie

sille said:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/mm-p-dolby-digital-plus-arise-20181115-t3868192
Working Dolby for pie
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Tried that before posting - doesn't work. The settings APK force-closes/hangs when you start it

VIPER4Android is great
install VIPER4Android_2.7.1.0-Magisk_Module.zip as magisk module (once rebooted open app and it will ask for root and install driver and reboot)
unzip ViPER4Android_Profiles.zip and move VIPER4Android folder to root of SDCard
download

Viper4android has been great for me as well. I asnt able to install it via magisk though, had to install from twrp.
I have noticed that the audio quality is different from the 6t. Not necessarily worse, just different. The highs do sound generally more compressed on the 7 pro vs 6t. As a result, my 7 pro Viper settings are markedly different from the 6t
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Bradl79 said:
VIPER4Android is great
install VIPER4Android_2.7.1.0-Magisk_Module.zip as magisk module (once rebooted open app and it will ask for root and install driver and reboot)
unzip ViPER4Android_Profiles.zip and move VIPER4Android folder to root of SDCard
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There are few profiles. Which one are you using?

Bluetooth problem with AirPods

Hello everyone. I have installed the february update on my A51, lots of bugs fixed, but when I tried to use Spotify with Apple AirPods the music keeps breaking.
I was afraid that it was a problem in the phone, but when I connected a BT speaker, it worked perfectly. I don't have another pair of BT headphones to test if it was a problem of the Airpods, I use them with Windows on my laptop and they work great, also tested a Galaxy A30 and they also worked fine, but on my A51 they seem to fail.
Anyone else with problems with Bluetooth, or with Airpods specifically?
Software info: A515FXXU2ATA8 - February 2020 patch

Hi. I can confirm the issues with Apple Airpods 2. Shure 215 BT work fine and the Airpods stutter and seem to disconnect from time to time. They are not usable with the Galaxy A51. It gets better if I turn off wireless but that is not an option.

eliasmonetta said:
Hello everyone. I have installed the february update on my A51, lots of bugs fixed, but when I tried to use Spotify with Apple AirPods the music keeps breaking.
I was afraid that it was a problem in the phone, but when I connected a BT speaker, it worked perfectly. I don't have another pair of BT headphones to test if it was a problem of the Airpods, I use them with Windows on my laptop and they work great, also tested a Galaxy A30 and they also worked fine, but on my A51 they seem to fail.
Anyone else with problems with Bluetooth, or with Airpods specifically?
Software info: A515FXXU2ATA8 - February 2020 patch
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I have october 2020 update and have same issues with airpods

Try it without a phone case.

papp54 said:
Try it without a phone case.
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Without case it works. But the case shouldn't be a problem. Its weird

With a thin case it is good but with a thick case it is not.

papp54 said:
With a thin case it is good but with a thick case it is not.
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I think its a problem D: but support advice to bring phone to a service to reinstall software

I reveal the secret. must first be paired without a case for the codec to switch to ACC. Because SBC will stay.

papp54 said:
I reveal the secret. must first be paired without a case for the codec to switch to ACC. Because SBC will stay.
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Yeah i do the same. But when acc chosen it has lags

But it supports the Airpods Acc codec.

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But it supports the Airpods Acc codec.
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1. I need first unpair it
2. Remove case and pair again
3. After that leave acc codec? And it should works?
I do the same things and reset bt cash and data just changing acc to sbc helps

Remove the case from the phone. Pair the Airpods. The bluetooth codec automatically switches from SBC codec to AAC codec.

papp54 said:
Remove the case from the phone. Pair the Airpods. The bluetooth codec automatically switches from SBC codec to AAC codec.
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Yeah but it has lags with aac
When i change to sbc no lags

Rom version? Mine oneui 2.5.

papp54 said:
Rom version? Mine oneui 2.5.
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Mine too
October update
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Flamixxx said:
Mine too
October update
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https://www.soundguys.com/the-ultimate-guide-to-bluetooth-headphones-aac-20296/
Maybe it has another optimization switch that can help to give better performance for aac?

I don't have this problem with Airpods 2. I reset the phone back to the factory after the upgrade.

papp54 said:
I don't have this problem with Airpods 2. I reset the phone back to the factory after the upgrade.
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I do the same too it didnt help

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I turned these off on Bluetooth, it looks like in the photo.

papp54 said:
I turned these off on Bluetooth, it looks like in the photo.
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I done this options too

Viper4Android FX Working

The latest version of Viper4Android FX is working from the magisk repo. I installed these 2 modules
Viper4Android FX v2.7.2.1
Audio Modification Library v4.0
And before rebooting went into Viper and hit Ok and the phone rebooted. after booting it didn't work so I had to go to settings and turn on legacy mode. It's now working with phone speaker across multiple reboots but I haven't tested bluetooth yet. It should work, if not the module Audio compatibility might fix it.

It likes to turn off a lot forcing you to restart your music app and v4a. It's kind of annoying

Aside from the crashing issues, does it help solve the horrible dsp config that Google puts on the P5 from the factory? I hate that ugly bass thump sound it makes. It's just like an iPhone.

James DSP FTW.

I havent had it stopped for me once and works for bluetooth as well.

Knuxyl said:
The latest version of Viper4Android FX is working from the magisk repo. I installed these 2 modules
Viper4Android FX v2.7.2.1
Audio Modification Library v4.0
And before rebooting went into Viper and hit Ok and the phone rebooted. after booting it didn't work so I had to go to settings and turn on legacy mode. It's now working with phone speaker across multiple reboots but I haven't tested bluetooth yet. It should work, if not the module Audio compatibility might fix it.
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Initially it didn't work, but now it does
Tried installing as you said:
1. Viper4Android FX v2.7.2.1 module, no reboot;
2.Audio Modification Library v4.0, no reboot;
3. Entered Viper and hit Ok and the phone rebooted.4
4. Processing not happening + Viper crashed when switching to Legacy.
Then I,
1. removed Audio Modification Library v4.0, but left Viper installed with Legacy mode enabled,
2. rebooted,
3. installed Audio Modification Library v4.0 again,
4. rebooted,
5. Baaaam..its working both with speaker and BT (AirPods, carstereo).
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Haven't had Viper4Android for a while..daamn I forgot how amazing it is..now with it enabled its impossible to switch back to Viper-Off..sound that you thought was decent, is complete garbage

jemeljsh said:
Initially it didn't work, but now it does
Tried installing as you said:
1. Viper4Android FX v2.7.2.1 module, no reboot;
2.Audio Modification Library v4.0, no reboot;
3. Entered Viper and hit Ok and the phone rebooted.4
4. Processing not happening + Viper crashed when switching to Legacy.
Then I,
1. removed Audio Modification Library v4.0, but left Viper installed with Legacy mode enabled,
2. rebooted,
3. installed Audio Modification Library v4.0 again,
4. rebooted,
5. Baaaam..its working both with speaker and BT (AirPods, carstereo).
:good::good::good:
Haven't had Viper4Android for a while..daamn I forgot how amazing it is..now with it enabled its impossible to switch back to Viper-Off..sound that you thought was decent, is complete garbage
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thank's !!! now work on my pixel 5 ! better that stock. wait my bose headphone for bluetooth test.
what use for presset or convolver ?

nico22320 said:
thank's !!! now work on my pixel 5 ! better that stock. wait my bose headphone for bluetooth test.
what use for presset or convolver ?
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Convolver was on by mistake .
On phone speaker I use only FIR equalizer (V shaped custom set), both in car (BT) and airpods (BT) I use only 1. FIR equalizer ( V shaped custom set), 2. Spectrum extension (10%) and 3. ViPER Clarity (Natural, 8db).
Rather simple, but daaaamn it sounds so much better :good::good::good:!

I don't find the Bose QC35II DDC so..
I'll try your set for test

nico22320 said:
I don't find the Bose QC35II DDC so..
I'll try your set for test
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Check the screenshots with settings I have added in my previous post

I don't have all options in Viper like you ??
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nico22320 said:
I don't have all options in Viper like you ??
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https://ibb.co/ssP5ggZ

Can you add-load any profiles. Do that work
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nico22320 said:
I don't have all options in Viper like you ??
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More options open up as soon as you enable BT headphones or car stereo

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More options open up as soon as you enable BT headphones or car stereo
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oh ok nice thank's man

Hey guys,
Do any of you have the problem with Viper being enabled but not processing? (See screenshot)
Restarting the phone and starting the app manually seems to work, but after a while the problem returns.

cheptii said:
Hey guys,
Do any of you have the problem with Viper being enabled but not processing? (See screenshot)
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Restarting the phone and starting the app manually seems to work, but after a while the problem returns.
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I have the same issue, sometimes it will survive a reboot, but most times it does not. I just made it a habit to go into options and flip legacy mode off then back on everyday, and it starts processing again.
Hopefully we find a better solution.

Strange.. i have follow exactly instructions from jemeljsh and no issues After.
Try to uninstall and reinstall. Maybe ?

Does this improve the stock loudspeaker?

nrd\ said:
Does this improve the stock loudspeaker?
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yes by a lot

is anyone getting status: abnormal? ive tried installing v4a with and without aml and acp