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[Q] NotionInk Adam info pls

With great pleasure i read today that Notion Ink Adam tablet is available for preorder. i want to ask some questions
1. What operating system it will running? Rumours refer Android 2.3 (Gingerbread) is the operating system
2. If the above is true will it support upgrade to Android 3.0 (Honeycomb) when it will be ready?May be is running a custom version of Android or stock one?
3. About 3G does it cover GSM 900,1800 and UMTS 2100?
4. Will google market be available?

The tablet hasn't even passed the FCC. As of now, it doesn't even exist in a form available for consumers. The site also allows you to provide your billing info without providing a shipping address, which should set off a big red scam alert flag in your head.
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The tablet hasn't even passed the FCC. As of now, it doesn't even exist in a form available for consumers. The site also allows you to provide your billing info without providing a shipping address, which should set off a big red scam alert flag in your head.
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Thanks for the info my friend.I didnt know that it did not passed FCC.Really now i wonder why they start taking money from people.That's stupid ,not to say more bad words.
I think i must look for alternatives.
Many people like me, who don't search for info before buying something, are easy to get fraud.

Not a scam
aelole said:
Thanks for the info my friend.I didnt know that it did not passed FCC.Really now i wonder why they start taking money from people.That's stupid ,not to say more bad words.
I think i must look for alternatives.
Many people like me, who don't search for info before buying something, are easy to get fraud.
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I beg to differ with you guys. Its genuine and The pixel Q version of the tabs are already sold out and they showcased this device in CES much before you have had any clues about Galaxy tab or any other for that matter. Between I have visited their office (Bangalore, India) personally 2 days back.
They have launched a developer section too. And if you talk technically then they have managed to solve android app's inability to handle large screens.
Notionink's introspection on all your doubts.
http://notionink.wordpress.com/2010/12/10/introspection/

harsha_aithal said:
I beg to differ with you guys. Its genuine and The pixel Q version of the tabs are already sold out and they showcased this device in CES much before you have had any clues about Galaxy tab or any other for that matter. Between I have visited their office (Bangalore, India) personally 2 days back.
They have launched a developer section too. And if you talk technically then they have managed to solve android app's inability to handle large screens.
Notionink's introspection on all your doubts.
http://notionink.wordpress.com/2010/12/10/introspection/
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Here's the original report, and even though the "billing info without shipping info" has been fixed, it still doesn't change the fact that it hasn't even passed the FCC. I think I'd entrust my money with an actual well-known manufacturer with a product that I can see and touch before I buy.

Why is it that the pessimist is always the first to respond. Whatever. On the FCC issue, I vaguely remember that they did something so that you can't find it but I can't remember where I found that.

Pikabob said:
Why is it that the pessimist is always the first to respond. Whatever. On the FCC issue, I vaguely remember that they did something so that you can't find it but I can't remember where I found that.
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Well, when you're dealing with money for a luxury product that has several alternatives it's okay to be pessimistic. Better safe than sorry in a situation like this, no?

aelole said:
With great pleasure i read today that Notion Ink Adam tablet is available for preorder. i want to ask some questions
1. What operating system it will running? Rumours refer Android 2.3 (Gingerbread) is the operating system
2. If the above is true will it support upgrade to Android 3.0 (Honeycomb) when it will be ready?May be is running a custom version of Android or stock one?
3. About 3G does it cover GSM 900,1800 and UMTS 2100?
4. Will google market be available?
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Here, have some valuable information:
"We have done something with our FCC application and it will be little difficult for you to find us!"
to answer your questions:
1. It will most likely run on 2.2 at first but "Eden is extremely compatible with 2.3" this implies that they are working on it.
2."This was a big step in converting your Android to a tablet version OS (and one of the updates coming in 3.0)" I'm not sure what this implies, but it might mean we will get 3.0
3.I have no idea, the whole 3g thing is a little confusing
4."Will it support the Google Market place? Or do you have your own market place/App Store that you are developing?
-We will have our own market place."
however, it probably won't take long for the devs to get the market on it.

TheBiles said:
Well, when you're dealing with money for a luxury product that has several alternatives it's okay to be pessimistic. Better safe than sorry in a situation like this, no?
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yeah I totally agree on the fact that it is okay to be pessimistic, but most of what you heard that makes the adam sound shady came from one series of articles on android police. I'm not sure, but I bet that if they tried they could make any company sound shady. Anyway, if Notion ink sounds shady, it's not really their fault, they are extremely inexperienced. It is a company run by 20-something year olds with no business experience straight out of college. They're bound to make some mistakes.

Is this phone dead?

Hi, I know this things about dont ask about eta of new updates, etc. But I have a simple question. Does this device have active community? I see some roms, etc.. (still unusable becouse of softreboots caused by high-gps accuracy), but is there still something in development or is this device dead in this way?

I suppose at some point we'll get at the very least a custom Oreo, however seeing how custom Nougat is still not bugfree, I'd say it's pretty dead at this point.
Plus, for a couple months now there's been too much silence in this forum, which probably animated many people to jump ship.
Really sad to see since the hardware is so good even to this day considering the price. But softwarewise it's worse than anything I've experienced so far. Probably in large amounts thanks to Huawei,just to make that clear
I'm sure the devs around here did their best and I'm thankful there's at least a considerable amount of roms tp choose from.
The great job XDA is doing to advertise for Huawei is also a little annoying at times. I don't know much about software but whatever that "partnership" with Huawei did, it didn't do much for the consumer.
That's it for my rant, had to get it out No more Huawei!
Sent from my HUAWEI FRD-L09 using XDA Labs

The partnership has been good just for XDA itself. For user hasn't changed anything. Don't know if they released or not the source code of the device but if they did is strange that the actual existing rom have important issues. Btw i'm really greatful for developers who attempt to make a good rom for our device, but i prefer staying on stock and hoping for official Android Oreo. If this day won't come, i'll simply take in consideration the bad support from huawei/honor and the almost inexistent community here on xda when buying my next device.
P.s I'll tell this again. I'm very greatful to all the developers who attempt to give us good roms, this is just my tought and i don't meant to denigrate work of other people. Hope you understand

From what I read around the forum, they did release the source code, but partially. You can almost surely rule out development, as hard as they might try, the devs arent going to save a device with a dwindling number of users, especially when it seems that the company itself has abandoned the device. I just hope they are kind enough to just make good on their promise and provide Oreo. Its been less than an year that this device has been available in my country, it would be a shame to see a phone with hardware as good as this not supported less than an year after its launch.

Debopam.exe said:
From what I read around the forum, they did release the source code, but partially. You can almost surely rule out development, as hard as they might try, the devs arent going to save a device with a dwindling number of users, especially when it seems that the company itself has abandoned the device. I just hope they are kind enough to just make good on their promise and provide Oreo. Its been less than an year that this device has been available in my country, it would be a shame to see a phone with hardware as good as this not supported less than an year after its launch.
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I totally agree with you there. I just bought the honor 8 for the third time and this time I bought the 64g as I had planned on the honor 8 being my new long term device so yes honor better follow through with their promise to keep this phone updated or I just wanted my money and they will loose me as a heavy supporter of their brands. I'm a huge fan but if they aren't going to update their current honor flagship phone nor release anymore new models to take it's place in the US then what's the point of me remaining loyal to them.

Essential up for sale, next phone cancelled

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...hone-maker-essential-is-said-to-consider-sale

shocker

We'll...
Like the stages of grief, I was initially frustrated and upset. After thinking about it for about 3 minutes, just about every possession I own is for sale, for the right price. Go get it Andy!

Kinda sad, was tempted to buy a ph-2. But now I'm happy I'll get a chance to buy a ph-1 when they go on fire sale. It will fit right in with my nextbit Robin.

this was a response from Essential that Android Police received
An official Essential spokesperson responded to our request for comment. Here's what we got:
"We always have multiple products in development at the same time and we embrace canceling some in favor of the ones we think will be bigger hits. We are putting all of our efforts towards our future, game-changing products, which include mobile and home products."
Sent from my PH-1 using Tapatalk

Damm! I've been so looking forward to the new phone! I'm sure it would have been a much bigger success.
(another article about it, based on Bloomberg report https://www.theverge.com/2018/5/24/...ncels-phone-development-considers-sale-report )
So do I buy another backup one as there really doesn't seem to be an alternative.

IronRoo said:
Damm! I've been so looking forward to the new phone! I'm sure it would have been a much bigger success.
(another article about it, based on Bloomberg report https://www.theverge.com/2018/5/24/...ncels-phone-development-considers-sale-report )
So do I buy another backup one as there really doesn't seem to be an alternative.
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yeah.. all the phone needs is oled screen and it would be perfect.. though the lcd is very good
Sent from my PH-1 using Tapatalk

Do you think we'll still get continued support for the PH-1, as getting the security updates quick, and getting updated to the official release of android p?

Thomas Cloutier said:
Do you think we'll still get continued support for the PH-1, as getting the security updates quick, and getting updated to the official release of android p?
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I was just wondering that myself.. let's hope the support continues for years to come. I have no plans to upgrade. Love my PH-1

I would not count on continued support for very long. You can’t hardly get decent long term support from phone companies that stay in business...

Sad day really. Especially the cancellation of the phone. I really believed the second one was going to get it right. I only had two problems with the phone: Low light performance of the cameras and poor signal strength (mostly indoors)
I don't think it would have been hard to improve in those areas for their next phone. He is giving up to easy.
P.S. won't be buying their other products if this is how it's going to go.
Maybe we need a petition started to give him more confidence.

It is sad, the Essential Phone had such promise. But sometimes in business "Promises" won't pay the staff or the bills. I was looking forward to PH-2, but now I am, I can't believe I am saying this, looking at the iPhone X.
I have use Android phones ,Nexis< from the beginning. Nexus left us in favor of the extremely expensive and hamstrung Pixel, I was really hoping Essential would fill that void, the one thing is the universe is constant "Apple" seems to always keep thing consistent.
Damn I need to call my therapist, its just a fuc____g phone...

Oh no. That's bad news. What a beautiful phone and not being continued.
First my wonderful Lumia, now the Essential.... Sometimes you wonder what it takes to break into this market.

oldman_58 said:
It is sad, the Essential Phone had such promise. But sometimes in business "Promises" won't pay the staff or the bills. I was looking forward to PH-2, but now I am, I can't believe I am saying this, looking at the iPhone X.
I have use Android phones ,Nexis< from the beginning. Nexus left us in favor of the extremely expensive and hamstrung Pixel, I was really hoping Essential would fill that void, the one thing is the universe is constant "Apple" seems to always keep thing consistent.
Damn I need to call my therapist, its just a fuc____g phone...
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I have the Essential and iPhone X. When it comes to size I constantly confuse the two of them. The Essential phone was the first Android device that felt like Apple quality to me. Can’t go wrong with either one.
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Damn, that really sux. This was the best phone I ever owned

sam2c said:
Damn, that really sux. This was the best phone I ever owned
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well, good thing for now is that we still own the best phone we ever owned.

derausgewanderte said:
Oh no. That's bad news. What a beautiful phone and not being continued.
First my wonderful Lumia, now the Essential.... Sometimes you wonder what it takes to break into this market.
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You jinxed it!
Don't buy a OnePlus 6 please...
Jk

Bummed on this one for sure. I've been impressed enough with this phone and especially the support to have considered replacing my wife's aging Nexus 5X with the second generation one (assuming the camera was better than the ph-1).
this feels exactly like what happened to me when Google sold Motorola soon after I bought my 2013 Moto X, which is still my all time fav phone. Google was supporting it (we got KitKat FAST) and then BAM the support was yanked out when the company got sold. I was starting to like this phone almost as much.

SHOCKKR said:
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Rumors.
From Andy:
"We always have multiple products in development at the same time and we embrace canceling some in favor of the ones we think will be bigger hits. We are putting all of our efforts towards our future, game-changing products, which include mobile and home products."
Where does that say the company is closing or that PH-2 is dead?
The article is from a confidential source.

tech_head said:
Rumors.
From Andy:
"We always have multiple products in development at the same time and we embrace canceling some in favor of the ones we think will be bigger hits. We are putting all of our efforts towards our future, game-changing products, which include mobile and home products."
Where does that say the company is closing or that PH-2 is dead?
The article is from a confidential source.
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Cmon dude he posted it as a response to the articles
"we embrace canceling some in favor of the ones we think will be bigger hits."
I think that is pretty clear, unless you're being intentionally obtuse.

Any help rooting or unlocking bootloader on the incredibly unpopular Blu Life One X3?

So, here's my problem:
I bought a Blu Life One X3 late last year since it was on sale for $150 ($100 lower than the current MSRP).
Since it was still a new release, I thought that the modders would come after it eventually, so I just waited it out.
Many months later, there has been little to no word about any sort of root method, it seems like the Life One X3 turned out to be very unpopular.
So far, I have been able to get it into the OEM unlock screen using adb, prompting a press of either of the volume buttons to confirm unlock, only that the volume up button won't do anything, and the volume down just cancels the process.
Any help at all?
Big thanks!

Ferchito
Hi Xiione,
I bought a couple of X3s recently and I was also expecting some development for them already but I only found your thread.
I think there are chances to root the X3 and install customs rooms since it has the same chipset as the BLU Vivo 5 (Chipset Mediatek MT6753, CPU Octa-core 1.3 GHz) and the Vivo 5 has extensive coverage and even kernel sources available. Vivo 5 doesn't have a fingerprint sensor but the BLU Life One X2 Mini has one that I'd be willing to bet is the same as the X3, so drivers may work for it too. This is the route I will follow but I'm only getting started with this stuff so it will probably take a few weeks to get some results.
Hopefully others will join
Cheers

Hey dude!
Glad to see at least one other living human that bought the same phone... good to hear that there might be some hope for this poor device after all.
I'm not so experienced in this area, so there is only so much I can achieve at the moment. I'm looking forward to hearing back from you if any developments arise, I'll do my best to dig around for a solution.
- Xiione

anyone find a method
ive been trying to find an one click to root my blu life 1x3 but no luck what so ever. Has any one had any luck yet

CrimsonKing420 said:
ive been trying to find an one click to root my blu life 1x3 but no luck what so ever. Has any one had any luck yet
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You will not find a one click root for that device. The problem is Blu is still recovery from their security scandal. So most people won't buy their devices.

funny thing is... i don't really consider rooting devices as necessary as it once was (for me). But still... it bugs me to no end i can't get this phone rooted.
I'm having the same problem as the OP.. i'm able to get into fastboot mode, but oem unlock option leads to a dead volume up button which leaves me nowhere. it really is to bad there's so little interest in BLU. they make decent phones at great prices, imo. but i also know they make it very difficult for developers as well.. difficult to get source and such. ...

Oscar_david said:
funny thing is... i don't really consider rooting devices as necessary as it once was (for me). But still... it bugs me to no end i can't get this phone rooted.
I'm having the same problem as the OP.. i'm able to get into fastboot mode, but oem unlock option leads to a dead volume up button which leaves me nowhere. it really is to bad there's so little interest in BLU. they make decent phones at great prices, imo. but i also know they make it very difficult for developers as well.. difficult to get source and such. ...
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They are unpopular due to the security issues the company has faced. Not to mention they are just rebranded chinese devices. Which is why sourse is hard to get for them as they dont really make the devices.

zelendel said:
They are unpopular due to the security issues the company has faced. Not to mention they are just rebranded chinese devices. Which is why sourse is hard to get for them as they dont really make the devices.
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I understand the security concerns. However, it's inconceivable that they would not have source, regardless of where the phones come from. If they released the code, more secure versions of the OS could be made available.

Oscar_david said:
I understand the security concerns. However, it's inconceivable that they would not have source, regardless of where the phones come from. If they released the code, more secure versions of the OS could be made available.
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It's very common with rebranded Chinese phones. Micromax (and oem in India) had the same issue. The main issue is the oem doesn't release it as it's not required in China. And no it couldn't. The kernel source is only a small part of it.
Best bet is to be more selective with your next device purchase

zelendel said:
It's very common with rebranded Chinese phones. Micromax (and oem in India) had the same issue. The main issue is the oem doesn't release it as it's not required in China. And no it couldn't. The kernel source is only a small part of it.
Best bet is to be more selective with your next device purchase
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That's funny.

Oscar_david said:
That's funny.
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Either way it's still the truth. Just do better research next time. Good luck.

zelendel said:
Either way it's still the truth. Just do better research next time. Good luck.
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No, really. You're hilarious!

Oscar_david said:
No, really. You're hilarious!
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I'm not the one that bought a joke of a device. Or spent money without doing any research. But ok. I have been doing this for decades. So good luck with that.

zelendel said:
I'm not the one that bought a joke of a device. Or spent money without doing any research. But ok. I have been doing this for decades. So good luck with that.
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Do you do stand up?

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Do you do stand up?
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I do. I'll be at your preschool later today after nap time so if your a good boy you might get to see it. If you can stay awake passed the puppet show.
Look here is the bottom line. You bought a joke of a device. Because you didn't do research. Now you have malware as well as it reporting to Chinese servers all your private info (you can look it up if you want.)
But to save you asking mommy for internet time
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pc...lu-gets-wrist-slap-over-chinese-spyware?amp=1
So good luck with that. I hope you learn before another year goes by.

zelendel said:
I do. I'll be at your preschool later today after nap time so if your a good boy you might get to see it. If you can stay awake passed the puppet show.
Look here is the bottom line. You bought a joke of a device. Because you didn't do research. Now you have malware as well as it reporting to Chinese servers all your private info (you can look it up if you want.)
But to save you asking mommy for internet time
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pc...lu-gets-wrist-slap-over-chinese-spyware?amp=1
So good luck with that. I hope you learn before another year goes by.
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Your humor is unparalleled.
Can't say much for your helpfulness.
I'd throw rotten tomatoes at any show you put on though.

Oscar_david said:
Your humor is unparalleled.
Can't say much for your helpfulness.
I'd throw rotten tomatoes at any show you put on though.
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Well to be honest from your pic of devices 2 things are clear.
1. My shows would be above your station in life.
2. You couldn't afford my shows.
Look you were told all the help you are gonna get over the past year. And yet you keep trying. You know that's the text book definition of of insanity right?
Even if you managed to find the source guess what. Your bootloader is locked and there is no unlock. So if with the code You can do nothing. Not like you would be able to understand it even if you got it I fear.
Just accept that you messed up and move on. We all do it. It's called growing up.
Oh and next time you need help. Mugjt try a support site and not a developers site. But that might be above your head.

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Well to be honest from your pic of devices 2 things are clear.
1. My shows would be above your station in life.
2. You couldn't afford my shows.
Look you were told all the help you are gonna get over the past year. And yet you keep trying. You know that's the text book definition of of insanity right?
Even if you managed to find the source guess what. Your bootloader is locked and there is no unlock. So if with the code You can do nothing. Not like you would be able to understand it even if you got it I fear.
Just accept that you messed up and move on. We all do it. It's called growing up.
Oh and next time you need help. Mugjt try a support site and not a developers site. But that might be above your head.
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You really outdo yourself with every post. I am having a laugh.
But truly I say onto you: you don't understand my choice of devices. You ought to learn to let go and move on when that's the case case. Nobody and I really do mean nobody needs your condescension (read $h*t).

Oscar_david said:
You really outdo yourself with every post. I am having a laugh.
But truly I say onto you: you don't understand my choice of devices. You ought to learn to let go and move on when that's the case case. Nobody and I really do mean nobody needs your condescension (read $h*t).
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That is a BS excuse. With the internet you can have any device you want. Just save up for it. Its that simple. As for the condescension, you are ready far to much into things. You can get great devices for really cheap these days. I mean even almost good devices like Xiaomi are really cheap.
I was here long before you and ill be here modding devices and building the os for my device long after you are gone.
Let me explain. What happens to you and your device I really couldnt care less about nor does anyone here. It is your problem. Watch the Video if you are confused.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmvCpR45LKA

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That is a BS excuse. With the internet you can have any device you want. Just save up for it. Its that simple. As for the condescension, you are ready far to much into things. You can get great devices for really cheap these days. I mean even almost good devices like Xiaomi are really cheap.
I was here long before you and ill be here modding devices and building the os for my device long after you are gone.
Let me explain. What happens to you and your device I really couldnt care less about nor does anyone here. It is your problem. Watch the Video if you are confused.
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???
Your presumption that I need to save to buy a phone is almost cute.
???
Your blindness to your own condescension is simply sad.
Whatever else you do on xda, you clearly have nothing to contribute to this thread.

Good grief!!!

I'm just going to link a few articles...
iOS 15 Suffering From Several Bugs as Adoption Rises to Nearly 20%
iOS 15 adoption has reached an estimated 19.3% since the software update was released September 20, according to mobile analytics company Mixpanel. ...
www.macrumors.com
iOS 15 Issues: Check Out the Latest iOS 15 Bugs and Problems Here
Apple just pushed out iOS 15 and every update comes with a bunch of bugs and issues. Here we've collected the common iOS 15 bugs and problems and provided the most effective ways to fix them.
www.tenorshare.com
Apple iOS 15 Warnings Issued For All iPhone Users
Serious problems are affecting iPhone owners after upgrading to iOS 15...
www.forbes.com
iOS 15.1: The bugs are back
After going from bad to great, iOS 15 is once again headed in the bad direction.
www.zdnet.com
Samsung Galaxy S21 Problems: 5 Things You Need to Know
Samsung Galaxy S21, Galaxy S21+, Galaxy S21 Ultra, and Galaxy S21 FE users are running into a variety of bugs, performance issues, and software glitches. Samsung’s working to resolve problems that have been around for months and we’ll continue to see new issues emerge as more people buy these...
www.gottabemobile.com
Common Samsung Galaxy S21 problems how to fix them | Digital Trends
Does your Samsung Galaxy S21, S21+, or S21 Ultra have issues? We present some of the most common problems and provide you with solutions and tips.
www.digitaltrends.com
In other words.... The grass ain't greener on the other side. STOP THE COMPLAINING!!!

Latest isn't the best. Don't be a beta tester by paying $800 - $1600 for the privilege

Any time Apple users have issues I laugh. I always view them as though they're in a league of their own, like they're "elite" and better than everyone. When half of their OS is buggy, you'll still have people defending Apple as though nothing is wrong.

RetroTech07 said:
Any time Apple users have issues I laugh. I always view them as though they're in a league of their own, like they're "elite" and better than everyone. When half of their OS is buggy, you'll still have people defending Apple as though nothing is wrong.
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Nah, its not that. They simply don't have any expectations, because icrap isn't technology for productivity, its fashion accessory. So as long as it is fashionable among TWITS, then its all good.

Is this thread just to take the heat off of Google for releasing a lazy/broken OS? Either way, I can assure you from the 100+ bug fix changelog that Android 12 is in a worse situation than IOS ever has been.

not sure a thread on an internet forum takes the heat off a multi billion pound company
Personally ive not had one issue with the pro 6 or android 12. Considering how many have been sold and the tiny percentage pf people complaining on here, most of which is idiots throwing their toys out the pram, im not sure id agree with the "lazy/broken OS" statement either.

skimminstones said:
not sure a thread on an internet forum takes the heat off a multi billion pound company
Personally ive not had one issue with the pro 6 or android 12. Considering how many have been sold and the tiny percentage pf people complaining on here, most of which is idiots throwing their toys out the pram, im not sure id agree with the "lazy/broken OS" statement either.
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Yeah, I suppose it's each person's perspective and how they use their device. I have used every version of Android, and this has had the most issues I have experienced. Even keeping a steady mobile connection has been a problem for my device. Problems from background apps just playing out of nowhere (YouTube), to alarm clocks not silencing without a force close. It's not been great in my opinion. I'm glad you haven't experienced any of that though.
Also, I don't believe it is fair to call those complaining idiots. Obviously there are some real problems with the software by looking at the fixes they had to issue. Truth be told, it's probably just a small percentage so far that they tackled.

jal3223 said:
I can assure you from the 100+ bug fix changelog that Android 12 is in a worse situation than IOS ever has been.
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My pet peeve is Android copying iOS and becoming more restrictive and closed in the name of security and privacy while iOS is slowly opening up to advanced users.

miravision said:
My pet peeve is Android copying iOS and becoming more restrictive and closed in the name of security and privacy while iOS is slowly opening up to advanced users
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Definitely! It seems "Material You" is really just pushing what they like on you. Aside from that, Google has done a great job at making developer's lives miserable when trying to compile from source from these newer devices. I just don't like the path they are going down to be honest. I would stick with Android 10 forever if it was possible.

jal3223 said:
Also, I don't believe it is fair to call those complaining idiots.
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It's perfectly fair
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Is this thread just to take the heat off of Google for releasing a lazy/broken OS? Either way, I can assure you from the 100+ bug fix changelog that Android 12 is in a worse situation than IOS ever has been.
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Apple just released a lazy/broken OS, and it's still very incomplete compared to Android 12. I wouldn't consider it a worse situation at all.
jal3223 said:
Definitely! It seems "Material You" is really just pushing what they like on you. Aside from that, Google has done a great job at making developer's lives miserable when trying to compile from source from these newer devices. I just don't like the path they are going down to be honest. I would stick with Android 10 forever if it was possible.
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Nothing is being pushed onto you at all. You seem just as misinformed as ever.

prohibido_por_la_ley said:
It's perfectly fair
Apple just released a lazy/broken OS, and it's still very incomplete compared to Android 12. I wouldn't consider it a worse situation at all.
Nothing is being pushed onto you at all. You seem just as misinformed as ever
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prohibido_por_la_ley said:
It's perfectly fair
Apple just released a lazy/broken OS, and it's still very incomplete compared to Android 12. I wouldn't consider it a worse situation at all.
Nothing is being pushed onto you at all. You seem just as misinformed as ever.
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Alright, think what you will. I'm sure Google broke some kinda record with all of the required bugfixes today though. It is being pushed on those that want the phone however, as you can't downgrade to a more stable OS.
It's interesting that some of you guys lash out when someone doesn't agree with you though. I'm stating my opinion on the OS, and FACTS regarding the buggy android 12 (proven by today's update). So instead of being intelegent and retorting with facts or even your own opinion, you guys call people "idiots" and "misinformed". It seems like this thread is going to continue to be childish, so I'm out. Enjoy the finger pointing and scapegoating with Apple. Take care man.

I'm curious. Why is this thread here? Can we focus on the device this forum is about and not about problems other devices are having. It comes off a little petty and a lot off topic.

Apple has its fair share of major issues. I have an iPad and had an iPhone years ago and they always had their fair share of annoying bugs. Don't act as if pixel issues are unique.

I don't know why, but this thread makes want to take a seat, relax, and eat some popcorn

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I'm curious. Why is this thread here? Can we focus on the device this forum is about and not about problems other devices are having. It comes off a little petty and a lot off topic.
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This thread is here because of the ridiculous complaints people keep posting countless threads on and I'm showing that Google isn't the only one that has had issues at release yet seem to be getting picked on the hardest. Not petty at all.

prohibido_por_la_ley said:
This thread is here because of the ridiculous complaints people keep posting countless threads on and I'm showing that Google isn't the only one that has had issues at release yet seem to be getting picked on the hardest. Not petty at all.
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You posting that other phones have issues won't fix the issues people are having.
This is actually really good at pointing out how childish people are when they need to defend their favorite brand or company (that surprise doesn't give two squirts about you).
Wow devices have issues. Water is wet. If I wanted to talk about what is wrong with apple or a Sammy device I would go to a forum for that. Pretty sure the name says pixel 6 at the top of this sub. Jeez what is this reddit? Grow up.
Edit: Also did you you say "getting picked on". Seriously? Did you birth a P6P from your loins? Get over this product idolatry.

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Aside from that, Google has done a great job at making developer's lives miserable when trying to compile from source from these newer devices.
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In what way? I'm running aosp built from source right now. Had absolutely no difficulty building or installing it.

96carboard said:
In what way? I'm running aosp built from source right now. Had absolutely no difficulty building or installing it.
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Maybe I should have specified kernel development relating to custom kernels for ROMs. It's discussed more here:
[KERNEL] [blu_spark r131] [A13 Jun 2023]
Kernel features: Build with custom upstream LLVM 14.x (Clang 14.0.6 + LLD linker + IAS) ThinLTO full -O2 build with device and target flags enhanced, build improvements and compiler fixes, etc Less is more: stockish kernel+modules+dtb builds...
forum.xda-developers.com
That's awesome that you have it compiled though. Have you noticed any improvements over stock so far?

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You posting that other phones have issues won't fix the issues people are having.
This is actually really good at pointing out how childish people are when they need to defend their favorite brand or company (that surprise doesn't give two squirts about you).
Wow devices have issues. Water is wet. If I wanted to talk about what is wrong with apple or a Sammy device I would go to a forum for that. Pretty sure the name says pixel 6 at the top of this sub. Jeez what is this reddit? Grow up.
Edit: Also did you you say "getting picked on". Seriously? Did you birth a P6P from your loins? Get over this product idolatry.
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It's childish to complain over and over about something that will inevitably be fixed. If you don't like the subject matter of this thread then hop off.

prohibido_por_la_ley said:
It's childish to complain over and over about something that will inevitably be fixed. If you don't like the subject matter of this thread then hop off.
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Some you assume and hope will be fixed. Nevermind you're applying that flawed logic with a wide brush across anyone having a problem.
Gotta love it though. Oh you shouldnt complain about the issues you are having with the phone you spent your own money on, because there are phones that you don't even own that are having problems. Well when you put it that way it makes so much sense lol.
This is a lot of whataboutism all because people value being a fanboy over being helpful in a community meant to, well be helpful.
But don't be mad at my comments. There is probably someone somewhere else being a Debby Downer about some other beloved product. After all that's the logic here.