Google suspends Hauwei Android license. - Huawei Mate 20 X Guides, News, & Discussion

Just read this: https://www.theverge.com/2019/5/19/18631558/google-huawei-android-suspension What a blow to Huawei, I don't know if I should sell my Mate 20 x now or wait and see what happens. Will we still get security updates? Is Huawei developing their own app store or will they use Aptoide?

Yeah waiting on this too. They should just make their own operating system. They are a big company.

Looks like they anticipated it and may be prepared: https://www.scmp.com/tech/big-tech/...s-built-its-own-operating-system-just-case-us

Without Google, they are done. My next phone won't be Huawei.

With this news I expect Huawei to be more open again, release thier source code and provide bootloader codes again.

flatronics said:
With this news I expect Huawei to be more open again, release thier source code and provide bootloader codes again.
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That would be how I would think too. However, I'll bet you it pans out the opposite and Huawei double downs on the bootloader and source code shenanigans. You know, I don't think Google's stance has anything to do with the bootloader tightening.

Also Intel, Qualcomm and Broadcom suspends Hauwei. But do they need them? Huawei has it's own chips and was busy making a new OS.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...me-huawei-business-ties-after-trump-crackdown

bruciebabie1963 said:
Will we still get security updates? Is Huawei developing their own app store or will they use Aptoide?
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Time will tell about security updates and they already have their own app store. https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=auto&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://appstore.huawei.com/

Such great timing....I have been holding on to my Z3 Tablet Compact for a LONG time and finally when I pull the trigger on the mate 20x, this happens!

Alarming but let's see how Huawei reacts, we will get EMUI 9.1 for sure but that might be it.
For the short term, they might Bridge the gap between Android 9 and 10,by implanting new features into the existing EMUI.
TBH, i don't see viable alternatives to 20 x

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Alarming but let's see how Huawei reacts, we will get EMUI 9.1 for sure but that might be it.
For the short term, they might Bridge the gap between Android 9 and 10,by implanting new features into the existing EMUI.
TBH, i don't see viable alternatives to 20 x
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Thats the problem...even the 20 x is barely the only option I could go from my monster Z3 Tablet compact..nothing else comes close to the 20 x as a replacement in terms of size

IMO this is a huge opportunity for Huawei to reap the benefits of some free positive PR.
Moving towards AOSP, giving the community unlocks and sources, and eliciting sympathy from the public due to the US' obviously ludicrous stance.
Could also help move people away from Google, and US tech giants' services, which are far, far more of a concern re: privacy and snooping, for anyone living in the West.

shaolin95 said:
Thats the problem...even the 20 x is barely the only option I could go from my monster Z3 Tablet compact..nothing else comes close to the 20 x as a replacement in terms of size
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Mi max 3, Mi max 4 and Mi max 4 pro, but the specs... Naaaarrr... No thx

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Mi max 3, Mi max 4 and Mi max 4 pro, but the specs... Naaaarrr... No thx
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They don't come close to 20x, well at least we'll get EMUI 9.1, just hope it will come fast enough.

Mi Max 4 is reportedly 19.5:9 or 19.7:9.
That's a joke for screen size that tall. What's it useful for?
That's hardly a replacement for the 8" 16:10 of the tablet / phablet, or even the 6.9" 18:9 of the Mi Max 3.

Wonder if the non Chinese versions will get support for a longer time than Chinese, at least for the short term. If that was the case, kinda wish I could rebrand...

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........ well at least we'll get EMUI 9.1,..........
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Can you provide a citation or source for this statement please?
All info I've seen suggests no more Android OS Updates. (App updates yes - OS updates no?).

The Chinese version got 9.1 already, the EU version should be already ready for roll out, at least i hope so.

Looks like US govt eased up on Huawei. Now it has a temporary Google license.

shaolin95 said:
Thats the problem...even the 20 x is barely the only option I could go from my monster Z3 Tablet compact..nothing else comes close to the 20 x as a replacement in terms of size
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Or the Huawei Mate X with 8.8 inch screen when open, but it's pricey. There is also a Oukitel K9 with a 7.12 inch screen for €179, but not all good specs. http://www.oukitel.com/products/k/oukitel-k9-112.html

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Will the Honor 8 receive anymore further updates?

I just bought an honor 8 and I read somewhere that it now will no longer be receiving any further updates and no upgrade to Oreo. Is this by chance 100 percent correct? Amy info on this would be greatly appreciated. If it will not be receiving any further updates from Honor then I may return it. I just am not sure what's true on this. Thanks for the help on this.
This is not true. Huawei has not officially confirmed or refuted anything. But I would personally prefer Honor 9 at this time, the price is not so much higher than Honor 8.
Yeah but I personally don't think we will ever see the Honor 9 in the US. My prediction is that we will get the Honor 8 Pro here in December before Christmas. Just a gut feeling as the Honor 8 name is already so widely known here that it just makes sense that they will feed off the Honor 8 name and release the pro model of next here. I just wonder about the current honor 8 and if it will in fact get more updates.
It Will receive further updates
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It Will receive further updates
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That's good to know. How do you know this for sure though. It's that a definite? There is another thread that talks about the honor will now no longer be receiving updates. Was curious how you knew for sure?
Atm i'm running the B394 rom and on Firmware finder there are already B350, B351 and B135 Roma (all beta) so an update is coming soon.
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Atm i'm running the B394 rom and on Firmware finder there are already B350, B351 and B135 Roma (all beta) so an update is coming soon.
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That's really good to hear. I'm glad to know that. I thought it was the end for the honor 8 to be honest.
Seems like after doing a lot of research on various forums the majority of people say the honor 8 will definitely keep receiving updates for a while to come. That's a very good thing bc I just bought my third honor 8 and this time I plan to keep it long term. I typically go through a lot of phones testing out new gear. I finally decided that the honor 8 is my all time favorite phone which I do not consider EMUI to be Android at all. In fact it's nothing like Android. It's so unique and different I've said many times in the past that EMUI could easily be branded and marketed as a third major mobile software choice in the industry. I believe since they could not be connected to IOS they were forced to be thrown in with Android but it's nothing remotely like pure android at all or what so ever. In fact I find EMUI to be as smooth interface wise as apple IOS where most Android interface with skins are rather choppy and sticky. Not EMUI as it's butter smooth and very fluid. Huawei Honor has definitely created a unique hybrid software that it cannot be compared to anything at all. It's in a league of its own and as soon as they officially entered the US market full blown watch how fast they over take Samsung for the top spot. The interface of the software is a joy to use. Zero lag at all. It's as fluid as IOS so there is no doubt it will fast become the most popular in the Android world if they don't decide to Branch out and brand their own software to be labeled as the third major software choice within the mobile industry. I can't wait until they enter the US market and I believe within two to three years they will be equal too or above Samsung for the top spot world wide. It'll be interesting to watch take place. As long as they stay true to their core roots in terms of pricing with high end budget phones such as the honor 8 and leave the Huawei side as their premium flagship phones there is no way they won't over take Samsung. Huawei honor is deep with their variety of offerings with the likes for example the honor 8 which is a very affordable phone but it indeed has flagship specs and a awesome camera. I hope their next US release for honor is the honor 8 pro. It has a 5.7 inch display and would be a great media phone for movies and YouTube and such. I'd love to have one to rotate out with my honor 8. The reason I believe the honor 8 pro will be their next US honor release is bc the honor 8 is already widely known in the US so it makes sense for them to keep feeding off the honor 8 name and release the pro model next.
Why will Honor 8 not get the Oreo update? It's last year Honor's flagship, every flagship gain two next androids versions at least...
Just what I had been reading on other forums and here lead me to that. I now think it will. I excited to know this now.
I don't know if we will get Oreo. However, in regards to general updates, my FRD-L14 just received the B389 update today. I think it mainly just updates security to the Oct 5th patch, at least it is an update.
Procrustinator said:
I don't know if we will get Oreo. However, in regards to general updates, my FRD-L14 just received the B389 update today. I think it mainly just updates security to the Oct 5th patch, at least it is an update.
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I sure hope we get Oreo. Technically we should and I really think it would be a bad business decision on Huawei honors part not to give the honor 8 oreo due to how close it is before they enter the US market full blown and officially. They don't want to enter this market on a bad note. Plus this is honors flagship phone for the US. They would loose a ton of US customer support if they choose not to update this phone to Oreo. They didn't climb up to number two in the world based off of bad decisions for their customers so I think we will get it but it will be very late to the party getting it.

OnePlus 6 vs. Huawei Mate 10Pro: Speed and Background Programs primary concern

I'm trying to decide between the OnePlus 6 and the Huawei Mate 10Pro for my next phone. I currently have an LG V20 and my job had me download a lot of Office Protocol software, password protected unlock, etc. that is really bogging my phone down. I'm having a hard time comparing the processors and the benefits of the 6GB or 8GB of RAM against their respective processors. My work add-ons run in the background so trying to figure out what will keep up - long term - with these forced installs from work. Thanks in advance for your insight!
If you want to modify your phone get a oneplus 6. Huawei has recently stated that they won't open their bootloaders on their phones anymore.
hurray said:
If you want to modify your phone get a oneplus 6. Huawei has recently stated that they won't open their bootloaders on their phones anymore.
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literally this
hurray said:
If you want to modify your phone get a oneplus 6. Huawei has recently stated that they won't open their bootloaders on their phones anymore.
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Yeah - I'm a lowly off-the-shelf-take-it-as-it-is type of user. Not technically inclined enough to make any changes.
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Yeah - I'm a lowly off-the-shelf-take-it-as-it-is type of user. Not technically inclined enough to make any changes.
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Never had an issue personally with Huawei. Outside of timely updates(like 90% of companies) they make great devices.
If you want Android skin without the LG/Samsung slowdown like, Huawei is a good choice. Never experienced the lag with mate 8 or 9.
Want bells and whistles Huawei.
Closet to stock Android OnePlus. Both got pros and cons
Get the Oneplus 6, more future proof since it's a 2018 device. The Kirin 970 on the Huawei is a dealbreaker for me. It's not as good as the Snapdragon 835/845 hence performance on the Oneplus 6 or even the 5T is noticeably better.

What do you think about Huawei ban?

As title say: tell me
meh! no source release, no bootloader unlock...... nothing of value has been lost! as you can see here, there is little to no custom ROMs so your stuck with EMUI. ill gladly buy a oneplus device over a huawei if there are no other alternatives. thankfully i have decided on the zenfone 6!
Good. Kind of happy. Hope Huawei will go down for not updating C636 device
It's political BS, but Huawei weren't supporting the Honor 8 anyway, so it's not affecting us.
Independent development is a joke, official support is worst... this is just another nail in the coffin. It doesn't matter the reasons, only the end result.
Goodbye Huawei/Honor.
huawei could have been huge in the north america if instead of their closed source chips they used snapdragon chips. sure they spend a bit more but using snapdragon chips also allows huawei to keep their secrets to themselves while giving the rest of us what we want and deserve..... sources! also, i think LG should just **** off already! not allowing bootloader unlocking on hardware that you own is bull****! this should be a law. the right to repair act should cover this kind of thing but here in the US corporate money keeps the govt on their side. if the EU could make this happen it would be amazing!
Should Have been banned 2 years back. Atleast I would not have wasted my money...
Now after just 2 years of usage I have to upgrade. I use most of my phones for 4 years..
How are the Pixel 3a's in comparison to the Honor 8? As far as performance goes?
And can those be rooted? I'm basically happy with my Honor 8 after replacing the battery last month as far as performance goes, but I kind of want security updates and OS updates would be nice too.
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How are the Pixel 3a's in comparison to the Honor 8? As far as performance goes?
And can those be rooted? I'm basically happy with my Honor 8 after replacing the battery last month as far as performance goes, but I kind of want security updates and OS updates would be nice too.
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How much did it all cost you to replace the battery? I am looking forward to replacing mine too.
About $35. I got a kit with tools and a new battery off ifixit. I got an OEM back off ebay, figuring I'd probably crack it talking it off, but ended up not needing it.
Yeah should have been banned before honor 8 release, then many early adopters wouldn't have been conned into buying their crap device.
funkiefresh said:
Yeah should have been banned before honor 8 release, then many early adopters wouldn't have been conned into buying their crap device.
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what really stings yet makes me laugh is that this device is treble compatible and has not custom ROMs other than the openkirin stuff. other devices are able to boot tons of GSIs but not the honor 8.
im happy that i dont have to deal with EMUI but honestly, omniROM is that much better of a ROM. im sure huawei will work something out eventually but i just hope that their reputation is bombed to hell at least here in north america. maybe they will go back to using snapdragons for us which will give us tons of ROMs and a longer usage life.
They're not going to start using SoCs developed by a third party when they make their own.

EMUI 10.0 for P20 Pro CLT-L29

Hi there, I am looking for a way to force update android 10 to my P20 Pro, Its the CLT-L29 version currently with build number 9.1.0.383 and I bought it in Pakistan, updates here seems to take quite a while as compared to other places. Also, I am facing some issues with Bluetooth connection with my car speakers. Hopefully, the update might solve my problem. Would be grateful for any help
There is no update for emui 10 CLT-L29 ATM online. Version on firmware finder is only available for india region
The EMUI 10 (Android 10) beta program got closed some months ago. So we have to wait for the official rollout in march/april.
I'm part of the beta-program and already using Android 10 (10.0.0.145 C432). I can confirm that all Bluetooth issues I had before are gone. Especially with car Bluetooth (there was a lot of stuttering with Android 8 and 9).
My second Phone honor 20 lite get the New update (Android 10/emui 10) and the flagship is waiting........
No more Huawei for me unfortunately. While it is a good phone, updates are not existent. Android 11 is coming out next month and we're still on 9. LOL.
chefnoob said:
No more Huawei for me unfortunately. While it is a good phone, updates are not existent. Android 11 is coming out next month and we're still on 9. LOL.
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I am the same opinion!
Besides, Huawei leaves out P20 series from 10.1 update.
Absolutely my next phone one+ 8 pro
F*ck huawei, you killed my p20 pro!
its bad phone ever ! never buy again !
I really love my P20 Pro, but the Updates... I remember to go to 9 with the modded hisuite because my phone did not get the update.
Without the Google Services its anyway not useful for my to stay with huawai, but because of the bad updates and support my next phone will not be a Huawai.
And i will look for a phone with updates min 3-4 years, is there a phone with that support?
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And i will look for a phone with updates min 3-4 years, is there a phone with that support?
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3-4 years you will get only with an iPhone.
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3-4 years you will get only with an iPhone.
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Thats really a pity. To be honest i have an iphone (11) from my company, but i dont like it, i like android. mhm.
MeisterGigi said:
Thats really a pity. To be honest i have an iphone (11) from my company, but i dont like it, i like android. mhm.
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That is not exactly true.
PIXEL phones are updated for 3 years. That is according to Google's support page.
Following that, your only option is get a popular unlockable phone and install Lineage OS. This gives you longer support.
Your options here are basically Motorola or OnePlus.
Huawei likely would have survived its anti-consumer change in bootloader unlocking stance and slow software rollout alone. However, coupled with Trumps war on Huawei, I expect them to pull a HTC and drop down to irrelevancy within a couple years.
I bought a P20 Pro because I had owned the Nexus 6P, which was the best smart phone I have ever owned. Had I not dropped it into water after after cracking the screen, I would still use it since it is far more usable that the EMUI infected P20.
I cannot imagine any situation where I would buy another Huawei product after this phone.
It is a pity. They may lovely hardware. EMUI is simply this ****tiest software to ever been placed on a phone. I would say even original touchwiz was less annoying.
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That is not exactly true.
PIXEL phones are updated for 3 years. That is according to Google's support page.
Following that, your only option is get...
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Wow, i also came from a 6P, things were very easy there... I dont understand huaweis bootloader war :/
I think i will use my p20 one more year, then i will hope there are some good phones on the market
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3-4 years you will get only with an iPhone.
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+free hardware throttle becouse of "battery saving" :laugh::laugh::laugh: I would never buy anything from this money thirsty company. Overpriced AF
camera function on EMUI 8 is better than EMUI 9. Hope it will come back in EMUI 10.
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+free hardware throttle becouse of "battery saving" :laugh::laugh::laugh: I would never buy anything from this money thirsty company. Overpriced AF
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The times in which only iPhones were overpriced are gone. There's no mich difference between the android flagship devices and iPhones nowadays.
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The times in which only iPhones were overpriced are gone. There's no mich difference between the android flagship devices and iPhones nowadays.
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At least Apple actually updates their software for several years. Unlikely ****ty Huawei or Samsung.
Spend a thousand bucks and get two years max of support. Or spend 1k with apple and get 5.
Seems like a better deal to spend 1k every 5 years than 1k every 2.
Of course, no one would actually spend that much on a Huawei so the carriers need to massively slash the price.
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At least Apple actually updates their software for several years. Unlikely ****ty Huawei or Samsung.
Spend a thousand bucks and get two years max of support. Or spend 1k with apple and get 5.
Seems like a better deal to spend 1k every 5 years than 1k every 2.
Of course, no one would actually spend that much on a Huawei so the carriers need to massively slash the price.
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In fact spend 400 on the SE 2 and get 5 years of updates. I'm seriously considering it as my next phone, I know people bash the looks of it but I loved my 6s and genuinely don't have an issue with it.
I do like my P20 Pro but the lack of updates (even security ones are slow) is just pathetic. I'd go for OnePlus but even they're expensive these days.
Emui 10
There is emui 10 for Europe in firmware finder
Goovsky said:
There is emui 10 for Europe in firmware finder
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It's for C675, like older versions of EMUI 10

EVR-L29 (international version) EMUI 11 stuck in 11.0.0.140

Hi,
Huawei keeps updating our Mate 20X, to our satisfaction I would say since it's just such a good phone...
Per some sites, Huawei released some weeks back Android May 2021 security update. And before March Security update...
Huawei Mate 20 devices (EMUI 11) starts getting May 2021 security update [Global]
Huawei is delivering a new software update for one of the popular smartphone lineups around the world, the Huawei Mate 20. This previous-gen flagship lineup has a separate fan base and satisfying its users with its camera and hardware performance. Due to its popularity and core configuration...
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The issue is that my phone seems to have stopped receiving OTA updates and I'm stuck on 11.0.0.140 which has January 2021 Security update.
I live in Portugal and I've reach out to Huawei here about this. Their feedback is that my phone is up-to-date, contrary to those articles.
Anyone else having this issue? If you've received recent OTA updates, can you please comment with the version and country where you live?
Thanks.
I called Huawei support today. They confirmed we will not be getting any more security patches beyond Jan 2021. This phone isn't even 3 years old yet. My wife's Oneplus 6 is bang up to date. The Mate 20X was the last Huawei I'll ever buy.
Yes, same feedback I got from Huawei in Portugal.
What's strange is that in some countries or perhaps just to the other Mate 20 models, Huawei is still releasing updates -- not considering the Mate 20X 5G which should still be in Huawei's monthly security update cycle.
Anyway, the page of the link above, shows what seems to be a Mate 20 (model ?), receiving EMUI 11.0.0.158 and a previous article from Huawei Central, shows one in Germany receiving update .150.
My interest here is mainly the Android security updates. Except from this, my phone is working fine...
as per usual, such updates are rolled out in vastly different time frames for different regions (china, asia, europe, global, middle east, etc.) and also phone types (i.e. the linked article ONLY mentions Mate 20 and Mate 20 Pro, but NOT the Mate 20 X). so no choice but to be patient and share info here whenever we have smth new
im on a chinese EVR-AL00 with Mar-2021 security patch, emui version 11.0.0.139.
edit: ok....LOL, so after posting this i got curious and checked update status in settings, nothing there. so i went into the my huawei app, selected china as region, went into the support section and updates, checked there: bam, update available to 11.0.0.155! changelog: nothing exciting, just improves system stability in certain situations. installed update (no change of security patch btw, still march), checked again in my huawei app aaaand: update available again! this time to harmony OS 2.0.0.165!
however, im not proceeding with that one, im skeptical of that half baked try by huawei to "fake" a new OS (fake because its still based on android 10, imagine that...) and rather stick to emui for now...
besides, im actually planning to roll back to emui 9 in a few months, unlock bootloader and try my luck with GSI roms to upgrade to android 11 or even 12 ^^ could be exciting if it works, havent found anyone yet trying it on a 20 x...
Actually, the experience with Harmony OS so far is excellent. Everything works just great, no problems with any app, excellent battery life...
Plus, the version 2.0.0.165 is on July 1st security patch...
This thread scared me into start looking to replace my Global 20X. A couple of days later I got 11.0.0.155 with July security patches, nice!
Mongroovy said:
This thread scared me into start looking to replace my Global 20X. A couple of days later I got 11.0.0.155 with July security patches, nice!
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Iwas looking around too, but still can't find anything to replace it with. If they can maintain this phone, i could happliy go another yea or two? 155 just dropped for me too. So far the screen sharing feature with Huawei laptops in broken, and battery life has taken a hit. How is battery for you?
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Actually, the experience with Harmony OS so far is excellent. Everything works just great, no problems with any app, excellent battery life...
Plus, the version 2.0.0.165 is on July 1st security patch...
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How are you getting on with out Google apps? maybe you found a work around?
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Iwas looking around too, but still can't find anything to replace it with. If they can maintain this phone, i could happliy go another yea or two? 155 just dropped for me too. So far the screen sharing feature with Huawei laptops in broken, and battery life has taken a hit. How is battery for you?
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Haven't noticed worse battery life but I didn't really keep track of how many hours I got before. I never used the screen sharing feature.
The phone that I found that is somewhat close to the 20X is the Infinix Note 10 Pro NFC. I am a little tempted to get one of those from Aliexpress just to try it out and resell it if I decide to stay with my 20X
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Haven't noticed worse battery life but I didn't really keep track of how many hours I got before. I never used the screen sharing feature.
The phone that I found that is somewhat close to the 20X is the Infinix Note 10 Pro NFC. I am a little tempted to get one of those from Aliexpress just to try it out and resell it if I decide to stay with my 20X
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Looks ok? can't imagine you'd get many security updates. Prob better of with the 20X if thats important. As much as i dislike Samsung, the A52 5G can't be ignored at £409 The promise 3 years of Android upgrades and 4 years of security patches for just over £400!
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Haven't noticed worse battery life but I didn't really keep track of how many hours I got before. I never used the screen sharing feature.
The phone that I found that is somewhat close to the 20X is the Infinix Note 10 Pro NFC. I am a little tempted to get one of those from Aliexpress just to try it out and resell it if I decide to stay with my 20X
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just watched some vids on note 10 pro. Looks pretty good. worth a punt at that price!
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How are you getting on with out Google apps? maybe you found a work around?
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???
Mate 20 X was released BEFORE the embargo, so it has always had Google apps, and still has on Harmony OS...
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Mate 20 X was released BEFORE the embargo, so it has always had Google Apps, and still has on Harmony OS...
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ahh i didn't know it still had Google Apps. Would you recommend moving over to Harmony? Just re-read your post. you do recommend. How did you upgrade? Do you have China model?
Yes, after reading through the Russian forum on 4PDA carefully I deliberately bought the China version. It was very good decision.
Is there a way to get harmony os on EVR L29 GLOBAL VERSION MATE 20X

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