OnePlus 6 vs. Huawei Mate 10Pro: Speed and Background Programs primary concern - OnePlus 6 Questions & Answers

I'm trying to decide between the OnePlus 6 and the Huawei Mate 10Pro for my next phone. I currently have an LG V20 and my job had me download a lot of Office Protocol software, password protected unlock, etc. that is really bogging my phone down. I'm having a hard time comparing the processors and the benefits of the 6GB or 8GB of RAM against their respective processors. My work add-ons run in the background so trying to figure out what will keep up - long term - with these forced installs from work. Thanks in advance for your insight!

If you want to modify your phone get a oneplus 6. Huawei has recently stated that they won't open their bootloaders on their phones anymore.

hurray said:
If you want to modify your phone get a oneplus 6. Huawei has recently stated that they won't open their bootloaders on their phones anymore.
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literally this

hurray said:
If you want to modify your phone get a oneplus 6. Huawei has recently stated that they won't open their bootloaders on their phones anymore.
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Yeah - I'm a lowly off-the-shelf-take-it-as-it-is type of user. Not technically inclined enough to make any changes.

schmitkl said:
Yeah - I'm a lowly off-the-shelf-take-it-as-it-is type of user. Not technically inclined enough to make any changes.
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Never had an issue personally with Huawei. Outside of timely updates(like 90% of companies) they make great devices.
If you want Android skin without the LG/Samsung slowdown like, Huawei is a good choice. Never experienced the lag with mate 8 or 9.
Want bells and whistles Huawei.
Closet to stock Android OnePlus. Both got pros and cons

Get the Oneplus 6, more future proof since it's a 2018 device. The Kirin 970 on the Huawei is a dealbreaker for me. It's not as good as the Snapdragon 835/845 hence performance on the Oneplus 6 or even the 5T is noticeably better.

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Thinking about trading my S6 Edge for a Ascend Mate 7

I'm deciding if I should make the trade. The main reason is the battery. I found the S6 Edge battery is not enough for me (getting 3 SOT max and it does not last more than 10 hours). So I want to install a Stock ROM on it (is it possible?) and have "infinite" battery life with a good phone.
Any feedbacks on this decision?
Go for P8 Max. It also has 6inch screen, 4000mAh and 16mp camera. The specs are better than Mate 7.
I admit Mate 7 is a good phone but why settle for an old model when there is a new one. Plus, P8 Max has a more updated software, and can be upgraded to Marshmallow in the future.
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The only advice I can think of is that if you like custom roms and rooting then you can't go wrong with samsung phones, i had a note 2 for 3 yrs and then got a mate 7 and i am a bit sorry as trying to root the phone has been a nightmare and i am VERY worried about bricking this phone..
the note 2 is ALMOST impossible to brick and the support for samsung is brilliant on this forum where as the mate even after one year is still iffy.
please don't get me wrong the Mate 7 is a fantastic phone but i am still very uncomfortable to root it as there are SO may opinions and different ways ... (
Mine runs rock solid rooted, still on kitkat.
Rooting is the best for it as you can strip out the google bloat from /system/app.
I've kept most of the Huawei extras but the launcher is rubbish and I installed Smart Launcher Pro. I also installed Viper4Android for awesome sound, poweramp for quality music playback UE. For convenience of screen use, kinscreen, and to help the battery and keep data use under control, leandroid. I also flashed in the Xperia kitkat keyboard through CWM and removed google keyboard.
An older version of xposed is installed with some modules.
All up, it runs well, battery lasts well and it's set up to suit me better. The hardware is good for the price. Connectivity is great.
Apart from the poor Huawei launcher, the Huawei software is actually quite good and even has built in tools to manage permission and memory residence.
The launcher is no big deal when you can just install another and set it as default even if not rooted.
Happy I got mine.
Not for the Mate 7. I have had nothing with issues with the screen on mine. Replaced 2 times by service center. There were lines across the screen that were brighter than the rest of the screen. Got the S6 a week ago.
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The only advice I can think of is that if you like custom roms and rooting then you can't go wrong with samsung phones......
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i agree, while i love the build quality of the mate 7 i cant stand the software. i "upgraded" from a nexus 5 and it just isnt the same. if the mate 7 came with a snapdragon soc rather than the huaweis proprietary soc it would truly be the best phone around. i suggest you wait, zte and other Chinese manufactures will be coming out with snapdragon 820 phablets this year.
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i agree, while i love the build quality of the mate 7 i cant stand the software. i "upgraded" from a nexus 5 and it just isnt the same. if the mate 7 came with a snapdragon soc rather than the huaweis proprietary soc it would truly be the best phone around. i suggest you wait, zte and other Chinese manufactures will be coming out with snapdragon 820 phablets this year.
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What do you find so annoying about the software? I quite like the look and feel, very very stable and in my case it has even made up for the urge I normally have to flash roms, simply because there is no need. I appreciate that some may have had issues with the device but I guess you'll find that with every other device on the market.
I've had samsungs for quite a while before switching to the mate 7 and to be honest after so many years I got tired of Touchwiz with degrading performance or a CM alternative with poorer camera quality.
Instead of flashing one ROM after the other I find myself spending more time using the device enjoying its massive 6" screen [emoji1]
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What do you find so annoying about the software?........
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i find it annoying that i cant fully control what i do with my phone. on my nexus 5 i was able to do many things that i now see is not possible with my mate7. yes, i as well love the massive screen but after playing with a few nexus 6p's i have become very jealous. this is how the mate 7 should be. all custom ui stuff should be an optional addon "feature". what makes things worse is that companies spend alot of time building this stuff which many often end up not liking.
look at motorola and sony. they have converted to damn near stock android. whatever customization is present fits nicely into aosp android. last night i installed the stock firmware for my mate 7 (B328) and its honestly..... meh! huawei really bastardized what is the best visual android update. they even managed to completely screw up the recent apps view. huawei should really consider this.
for now im just going to get over it and keep using my mate 7 as is. not fully happy but whatever. thankfully there will be a few full metal phablets with snapdragon 820 chips being released this year. i cant wait!
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i find it annoying that i cant fully control what i do with my phone. on my nexus 5 i was able to do many things that i now see is not possible with my mate7. yes, i as well love the massive screen but after playing with a few nexus 6p's i have become very jealous. this is how the mate 7 should be. all custom ui stuff should be an optional addon "feature". what makes things worse is that companies spend alot of time building this stuff which many often end up not liking.
look at motorola and sony. they have converted to damn near stock android. whatever customization is present fits nicely into aosp android. last night i installed the stock firmware for my mate 7 (B328) and its honestly..... meh! huawei really bastardized what is the best visual android update. they even managed to completely screw up the recent apps view. huawei should really consider this.
for now im just going to get over it and keep using my mate 7 as is. not fully happy but whatever. thankfully there will be a few full metal phablets with snapdragon 820 chips being released this year. i cant wait!
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True, the Nexus 6p is very nice with an even better screen, although tiny smaller.
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Just switched my mate 7 out for a Nexus 6p - like many people on this thread while I thought the hardware was great (especially the battery life!), the iffy software and half assed updates got to me in the end (I came to the mate from a Nexus 5).
The 6p is spot on - shows what huawei can do when running Android as its meant to be. Battery life not so good as the mate 7, but plenty good enough. If you are coming from a high end phone like an s6 edge I'd say the 6p would be a better bet. As regards screen size... I'm not really noticing any reduction in what I can see on the 6p, but going down to 5.7 with a slim width does really help with holding the phone one handed.
I sold my note 5 and for the huawei mate 7, it hasn't arrived yet...I paid 250 for it, however I'm a tad concerned now , have I made a unwise decision .I did it so I could give huawei a chance and I'm seeing and hearing negatives.
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I sold my note 5 and for the huawei mate 7, it hasn't arrived yet...I paid 250 for it, however I'm a tad concerned now , have I made a unwise decision .I did it so I could give huawei a chance and I'm seeing and hearing negatives.
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Well, all phones have their negative sides. I love this phone because of the big screen and long battery life. It has a decent camera. It doesnt lag when playing games.
Give it a chance and I hope you will love this phone too. If ever your Mate 7 still runs on KK just leave it be. Lots of bugs in LP.
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I'm confused ...is the stock lollipop rom buggy ...how can that be lol? Did I jump the gun a bit selling the note 5? Are they're any stable cutom roms you could recommend. I just want it to last me a while and be a wise investment is all...I'm usually fine but this will be my first huawei anything and now a bit ehh lol
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I'm confused ...is the stock lollipop rom buggy ...how can that be lol? Did I jump the gun a bit selling the note 5? Are they're any stable cutom roms you could recommend. I just want it to last me a while and be a wise investment is all...I'm usually fine but this will be my first huawei anything and now a bit ehh lol
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To each his own I guess, but Lollipop is running super stable on my Mate 7.
Custom ROMS are not really an option on this device, there's pretty much no development going on, just have a quick look at the development sub forum and you can easily tell there's not so much going on there.
Make sure that if yo need to upgrade your device try following the official path first, allowing the phone to update itself to LP 5.1.1. If for some reason you don't get the updates just make sure you follow the instructions properly to update with an official ROM from Huawei's website and you should be just fine [emoji6]
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I'm confused ...is the stock lollipop rom buggy ...how can that be lol? Did I jump the gun a bit selling the note 5? Are they're any stable cutom roms you could recommend. I just want it to last me a while and be a wise investment is all...I'm usually fine but this will be my first huawei anything and now a bit ehh lol
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I did have lollipop running on mine for a while, and to be fair it was OK. However, it did seem to be missing some things that were included in KK - the carrier aggregation toggle, and after a hard reset it lost the motion control gesture settings etc.
Hence my point about it being glitchy. The other things that I found annoying is the EMUI customization made it difficult to access some of the underlying android screens (such as data usage etc). Also, I found that Google Voice when used in the USA would not dial out with the correct caller ID and number due to Huawei dialer I couldn't change. The other thing is that it is a bit laborious to change ROMs - you've got to download this, incremental update that, flash this to go back to the start etc.....a bit of pain really and one I couldn't really work out why it was necessary - again points to Huawei releasing all sorts of different confusing updates worldwide some of which were not complete.
Don't get me wrong, fundamentally there's nothing wrong with the phone - its just not a good tinkerers phone, nor is is well supported - none of the ported over more 'pure android' roms have yet been able to make the fingerprint sensor operate and can have iffy result with bluetooth etc.

Mate 9 .... Future Development

I love my Nexus 6 but I am having some battery issues, I have always wanted a better camera and I need more storage than the 32gb I currently have.
I have been looking at the Mate 9 since early fall and then somewhat spur of the moment ordered one from Amazon (I get a year to pay for it) yesterday. It should arrive tomorrow. Unfortunately, as I have poured through the Mate 9 forums for the last 24 hrs I have found not much development as I hoped for.
I then looked at the comparable new phone forums like the OnePlus3T and saw a crap load of development.
Input would be greatly appreciated!
What is the likelihood of development being stepped up for the Mate 9 in the coming weeks / months?
Any thoughts from the perspective of buying a OnPlus3T 64gb (twice my current memory) vs staying with the Mate9 (and having almost 200gb right off the bat -- 64gb plus my 128 sd card)?
I guess if the thought is that there is little chance of significantly further development for the Mate 9 I might rather try the alternative.
Thanks!!!!
It's never going to be comparable to the OnePlus, for a start because it's powered by a Kirin SoC which is a brilliant chip in itself but not widely documented.
Doesn't bother me one bit though, the device runs smooth as butter and I stopped tinkering years ago, jailbreaking, rooting, the lot. I'm happy with it as is.
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It's never going to be comparable to the OnePlus, for a start because it's powered by a Kirin SoC which is a brilliant chip in itself but not widely documented.
Doesn't bother me one bit though, the device runs smooth as butter and I stopped tinkering years ago, jailbreaking, rooting, the lot. I'm happy with it as is.
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Exactly as I feel. If you want to have fun modifying your phone, go for the OnePlus, or a Samsung.
If you just want a great phone to use, stick with the Mate 9. You can't do better - at least until this year's new phones come out. And they will have to be brilliant to beat the Mate 9.
Ever since getting the honor note 8. I've been nothing but Huawei/Honor and nothing else. And haven't felt the need to root them.
Honor note 8
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Sure there a few quirks. But def a fresh of new air after living with Samsung and LG and everything else under the sun. Since androids inception. Gone through countless devices since the HTC hero and rooted every single one. Now don't even care anymore cause the crap just works now. Lol.
The mate 9 is a fantastic device that nobody will buy. ( Ie normal people )
What do u need root for. ?
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Ever since getting the honor note 8. I've been nothing but Huawei/Honor and nothing else. And haven't felt the need to root them.
Honor note 8
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Sure there a few quirks. But def a fresh of new air after living with Samsung and LG and everything else under the sun. Since androids inception. Gone through countless devices since the HTC hero and rooted every single one. Now don't even care anymore cause the crap just works now. Lol.
The mate 9 is a fantastic device that nobody will buy. ( Ie normal people )
What do u need root for. ?
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I guess not so much just needing root ( for things like Titanium Backup [wouldn't even need that if there isn't any ROMs being developed], some Tasker functions, kernel tweaking , to name a few)
Granted I could do without most
BUT ... there are some little things that are made nice with Custom ROMs (esp just a plain ole AOSP ROM or maybe some Lineage based ROMs like Res Remix)
Ultimately though the Mate 9 is really nice ...... now I think I gotta decide whether I wanna keep the Mate 9 with 4gb ROM / 64 gb (and my 128 gb microSD card) ...... OR ........ the Mate 9 Pro with 6gb ROM / 128gb internal (and not use my microSD)
Any thoughts? I've had the Mate 9 for about 36 hrs ,,, get the Pro to try Wed
I'm guessing performance wise the 9 and pro are nearly identical except for the ram difference so I guess it all comes down to screen size. I'm more a the bigger the better kind of guy so I went with the normal mate 9. But since you can get your hands on both, see which size is more fit for you.
Yep, screen size wins it for me. But hey whatever floats your boat.
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I currently have a google nexus device, and the Mate 9 Pro appears to have what I wan

I currently have a Google/Motorola Nexus 6, running 7.1.1... But the very difficult to find and replace battery is finally on its way out... I tend to look into rooting and running custom firmwares, and am interested in what would be my first Huawei device because of this...
Just wondering what people's experience has been with the Mate 9 Pro (not interested much in the Mate 9) when compared to Nexus devices?
How hard is it to flash back to factory stock? My old LG phone had KDZ files for it to go back to fully stock without too much difficulty... What issues are cropping up for people who root beyond the normal things like Android Pay and such? The other phone that has the hardware I am interested in is the AT&T version of the LG V20, but it appears AT&T won't let them put out the KDZ files for it to go back to stock... And that is a deal breaker for me...
What is your open software experience with the Huawei Mate 9 Pro?
Or should I just wait till we know more about the OnePlus 5?
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I currently have a Google/Motorola Nexus 6, running 7.1.1... But the very difficult to find and replace battery is finally on its way out... I tend to look into rooting and running custom firmwares, and am interested in what would be my first Huawei device because of this...
Just wondering what people's experience has been with the Mate 9 Pro (not interested much in the Mate 9) when compared to Nexus devices?
How hard is it to flash back to factory stock? My old LG phone had KDZ files for it to go back to fully stock without too much difficulty... What issues are cropping up for people who root beyond the normal things like Android Pay and such? The other phone that has the hardware I am interested in is the AT&T version of the LG V20, but it appears AT&T won't let them put out the KDZ files for it to go back to stock... And that is a deal breaker for me...
What is your open software experience with the Huawei Mate 9 Pro?
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Well for both the mate 9 and 9 pro there isn't any development happening outside of a few stock roms now for the regular mate 9 and I believe nothing at all for the pro. Coming a nexus we are barely getting magisk going and I'm not sure if it 100% yet. Rooting is a different ballgame as well, I came from a nexus 6p and it is night and day. It is a nice phone and I am rooted stock with only viper installed. There are rumors for development of lineage for the mate 9 that I do ha e now but that is to be seen. If you're looking for a phone that is easily rootable and lots of development you may want to wait for the new OP5. You should look through the threads so you can get an ideal of what you'd be getting into with the phone.
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Ive been using Huawei phones since mate 7.
Do not buy Huawei products for modding/custom roms. If you are a flashaholic, stick with nexus, pixel, oneplus etc.
Since moving to huawei, I havent had the itch to flash custom roms either though. Every phone has its issues, but in my opinion, mate series does everything above average if not great.
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I currently have a Google/Motorola Nexus 6, running 7.1.1... But the very difficult to find and replace battery is finally on its way out... I tend to look into rooting and running custom firmwares, and am interested in what would be my first Huawei device because of this...
Just wondering what people's experience has been with the Mate 9 Pro (not interested much in the Mate 9) when compared to Nexus devices?
How hard is it to flash back to factory stock? My old LG phone had KDZ files for it to go back to fully stock without too much difficulty... What issues are cropping up for people who root beyond the normal things like Android Pay and such? The other phone that has the hardware I am interested in is the AT&T version of the LG V20, but it appears AT&T won't let them put out the KDZ files for it to go back to stock... And that is a deal breaker for me...
What is your open software experience with the Huawei Mate 9 Pro?
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I made the move from Nexus 6 to Mate 9. My nexus 6 screen had broken, so seemed best to just upgrade.
I'm generally happy with my move. The phone is physically more manageable than the Nexus 6 and feels sturdier on the whole.
I'm not getting security updates very often though and I expect Huawei aren't going to give me the next version of Android either.
The settings and general Huawei skin does get a bit annoying at times when you're used to pure Android, as on the whole, it's inevitably inferior to stock Android.
My main reason for going to the Mate 9 was for the six inch screen and strong hardware.
Hope this helps.
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Thanks for the feedback, and I appreciate the responses :good:
It's looking like I should wait for the One+ 5 and see what they offer...
I wish that the Nexus device hardware wasn't all so locked up, because I loved the software... So now I have to choose between hardware that can do what I want with locked down bloatware... Or software I can streamline, but is on hardware where when the battery dies I have to throw my phone away :silly:
And now with Fuchsia it looks like Google is trying to kill off what made the Nexus software so great also
With the number of phones out there, there should be at least one that has decent features AND is consumer oriented.
But thanks again for the responses :good:

Is the One plus 6 a worthy replacement for a Huawei P20 Pro?

4 months in owning my first Huawei device and I already miss stock android. I've had Oneplus phones in the past and i have absolutely love them. So would you say the Oneplus 6 is a worthy alternative to the P20 Pro?
If you've owned them before and you know you like the feel of the OS, then I think you're the only one that can answer that question. There are some things you'll trade off, but you'll get stock(ish) OS, and faster updates.
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4 months in owning my first Huawei device and I already miss stock android. I've had Oneplus phones in the past and i have absolutely love them. So would you say the Oneplus 6 is a worthy alternative to the P20 Pro?
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Probably yes, based on what you want. If you'd like to sacrifice your camera (not so much) for a stock and improved OS, fast updates and large community support, well, go on!

Google suspends Hauwei Android license.

Just read this: https://www.theverge.com/2019/5/19/18631558/google-huawei-android-suspension What a blow to Huawei, I don't know if I should sell my Mate 20 x now or wait and see what happens. Will we still get security updates? Is Huawei developing their own app store or will they use Aptoide?
Yeah waiting on this too. They should just make their own operating system. They are a big company.
Looks like they anticipated it and may be prepared: https://www.scmp.com/tech/big-tech/...s-built-its-own-operating-system-just-case-us
Without Google, they are done. My next phone won't be Huawei.
With this news I expect Huawei to be more open again, release thier source code and provide bootloader codes again.
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With this news I expect Huawei to be more open again, release thier source code and provide bootloader codes again.
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That would be how I would think too. However, I'll bet you it pans out the opposite and Huawei double downs on the bootloader and source code shenanigans. You know, I don't think Google's stance has anything to do with the bootloader tightening.
Also Intel, Qualcomm and Broadcom suspends Hauwei. But do they need them? Huawei has it's own chips and was busy making a new OS.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...me-huawei-business-ties-after-trump-crackdown
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Will we still get security updates? Is Huawei developing their own app store or will they use Aptoide?
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Time will tell about security updates and they already have their own app store. https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=auto&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://appstore.huawei.com/
Such great timing....I have been holding on to my Z3 Tablet Compact for a LONG time and finally when I pull the trigger on the mate 20x, this happens!
Alarming but let's see how Huawei reacts, we will get EMUI 9.1 for sure but that might be it.
For the short term, they might Bridge the gap between Android 9 and 10,by implanting new features into the existing EMUI.
TBH, i don't see viable alternatives to 20 x
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Alarming but let's see how Huawei reacts, we will get EMUI 9.1 for sure but that might be it.
For the short term, they might Bridge the gap between Android 9 and 10,by implanting new features into the existing EMUI.
TBH, i don't see viable alternatives to 20 x
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Thats the problem...even the 20 x is barely the only option I could go from my monster Z3 Tablet compact..nothing else comes close to the 20 x as a replacement in terms of size
IMO this is a huge opportunity for Huawei to reap the benefits of some free positive PR.
Moving towards AOSP, giving the community unlocks and sources, and eliciting sympathy from the public due to the US' obviously ludicrous stance.
Could also help move people away from Google, and US tech giants' services, which are far, far more of a concern re: privacy and snooping, for anyone living in the West.
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Thats the problem...even the 20 x is barely the only option I could go from my monster Z3 Tablet compact..nothing else comes close to the 20 x as a replacement in terms of size
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Mi max 3, Mi max 4 and Mi max 4 pro, but the specs... Naaaarrr... No thx
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Mi max 3, Mi max 4 and Mi max 4 pro, but the specs... Naaaarrr... No thx
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They don't come close to 20x, well at least we'll get EMUI 9.1, just hope it will come fast enough.
Mi Max 4 is reportedly 19.5:9 or 19.7:9.
That's a joke for screen size that tall. What's it useful for?
That's hardly a replacement for the 8" 16:10 of the tablet / phablet, or even the 6.9" 18:9 of the Mi Max 3.
Wonder if the non Chinese versions will get support for a longer time than Chinese, at least for the short term. If that was the case, kinda wish I could rebrand...
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........ well at least we'll get EMUI 9.1,..........
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Can you provide a citation or source for this statement please?
All info I've seen suggests no more Android OS Updates. (App updates yes - OS updates no?).
The Chinese version got 9.1 already, the EU version should be already ready for roll out, at least i hope so.
Looks like US govt eased up on Huawei. Now it has a temporary Google license.
shaolin95 said:
Thats the problem...even the 20 x is barely the only option I could go from my monster Z3 Tablet compact..nothing else comes close to the 20 x as a replacement in terms of size
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Or the Huawei Mate X with 8.8 inch screen when open, but it's pricey. There is also a Oukitel K9 with a 7.12 inch screen for €179, but not all good specs. http://www.oukitel.com/products/k/oukitel-k9-112.html

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