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Okay so first off, I'm going to be visiting China soon and I'm looking to buy a phone from there. Considering that OnePlus and Xiaomi are very widely known, I'm only going to be considering these two companies. I'm only looking for a secondary phone. So I don't want the best of the best. But I do want a good phone. I'm currently looking at the Xiaomi redmi note 3 pro and the OnePlus One and the OnePlus X but I'm kind of ignoring the OnePlus X. So, first things first, I hate MIUI. Like I hate it to bits. But since it's a secondary phone, i don't think I'll be really that bothered. But Xiaomi is absolutely horrible with releasing kernel sources so CM won't be coming any time soon. And I love customising my device. From flashing ROMs to flashing mods, I love doing it. So my question to you is, Which one do you think should I choose? The obvious answer is of course whichever I prefer. Between its better sounding specs and that horrible horrible way to be able to have your bootloader unlocked, I'm really confused as to what would be a better device for me.
Thank You for your consideration!
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Considering you want to flash Roms and modify your phone I would say that go for one plus one as it has a huge developer base currently developing roms. Redmi note 3 pro is right now new and has amazing specs for half the price. Though the kernel sources will be delayed ( maybe 4 to 6 months at max hopefully) some Roms do come out after that. (Eg check mi 4 forum on mi website). So basically it's how urgently you want to get start modding your phone. The choice is up to you of course.
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Considering you want to flash Roms and modify your phone I would say that go for one plus one as it has a huge developer base currently developing roms. Redmi note 3 pro is right now new and has amazing specs for half the price. Though the kernel sources will be delayed ( maybe 4 to 6 months at max hopefully) some Roms do come out after that. (Eg check mi 4 forum on mi website). So basically it's how urgently you want to get start modding your phone. The choice is up to you of course.
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But on paper, would you say that the Redmi note 3 pro is a better phone?
Bought RN3 last month, to my surprised (thought that bootloader not locked)
bootloader was lock
applied to unlock bootloader. 3 weeks later a msg told me that I can unlock my phone
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When I hooked my phone to Xioami, my unit was not in their list to be unlock
so stupid my self
.bought this crap
NotAbdShahid said:
Okay so first off, I'm going to be visiting China soon and I'm looking to buy a phone from there. Considering that OnePlus and Xiaomi are very widely known, I'm only going to be considering these two companies. I'm only looking for a secondary phone. So I don't want the best of the best. But I do want a good phone. I'm currently looking at the Xiaomi redmi note 3 pro and the OnePlus One and the OnePlus X but I'm kind of ignoring the OnePlus X. So, first things first, I hate MIUI. Like I hate it to bits. But since it's a secondary phone, i don't think I'll be really that bothered. But Xiaomi is absolutely horrible with releasing kernel sources so CM won't be coming any time soon. And I love customising my device. From flashing ROMs to flashing mods, I love doing it. So my question to you is, Which one do you think should I choose? The obvious answer is of course whichever I prefer. Between its better sounding specs and that horrible horrible way to be able to have your bootloader unlocked, I'm really confused as to what would be a better device for me.
Thank You for your consideration!
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I'd definitely suggest Oneplus One since you like to flash ROMs and tinker with your phone. If you ultimately decide to go for the Redmi Note 3 go for the Snapdragon 650 version. Qualcomm does a good job releasing CAF source so that particular one is more likely to get support but it depends on if a maintainer picks up the device and builds a ROM for it. You could be stuck on stock for a long time
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I have both. I'll go with one anytime any day
I have both. One plus is 2 years old but still looks great. I didn't have too much trouble unlocking, installing custom recovery + root on Redmi note 3 pro but it is very easy on OPO. Cm13 alpha is available for redmi note 3. For the price xiaomi is outstanding. I'd go for the xiaomi.
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Look at the 2g,3g and 4g bands. OPO is better
Hello fellow XDA users. I decided to change my aging mi5, my first thought was mi mix 2s, but i realized that almost none of the phones has home button nowadays, and maybe i'm old school, but it's kind of important to me. I realized that maybe only huawei and oneplus is the one which is keeping this feature, and since p20 is more pretty for me, i'm really onto buying it… but of course i'm not sure about it, i'm a sucker for stock android, and as i see, there isn't any custom rom here.
Are you generally satisfied with the Huawei rom? Is there anyone working on custom rom? If so, will it be any soon available? For users who are already having the phone, any regrets? Would you choose any different phone if you bought today?
Would greatly appreciate any answers,
cheers.
The Huawei ROM is fine, no limitations, all you need in my opinion. Never felt I have to change the ROM.
I loved the home button in my Honor 9 before. It works well on P20 but, somehow because of the position (bigger screen) the onscreen buttons are easier to reach.
zsoltpopa said:
Hello fellow XDA users. I decided to change my aging mi5, my first thought was mi mix 2s, but i realized that almost none of the phones has home button nowadays, and maybe i'm old school, but it's kind of important to me. I realized that maybe only huawei and oneplus is the one which is keeping this feature, and since p20 is more pretty for me, i'm really onto buying it… but of course i'm not sure about it, i'm a sucker for stock android, and as i see, there isn't any custom rom here.
Are you generally satisfied with the Huawei rom? Is there anyone working on custom rom? If so, will it be any soon available? For users who are already having the phone, any regrets? Would you choose any different phone if you bought today?
Would greatly appreciate any answers,
cheers.
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Bootloader is locked, propably no roms in future. If you are in UK there are no updates. Emui comparing to stock android suck. Go for p20 pro or something else
g_oral said:
Bootloader is locked, propably no roms in future. If you are in UK there are no updates. Emui comparing to stock android suck. Go for p20 pro or something else
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Thanks!!
Emui is just soso. And the screen of p20 is rgbw LCD. That's very uncomfortable.
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I am living in UK and one of my chinese friend want to buy a new phone but not Apple.... He asked me and i was suggest P20. Now he want it to buy in China but using it in UK. So my question is the chinese OS will work in UK without limitations? I mean google map, google translation etc.? Or is only one "global" OS on P20 not like Oneplus where is HydrogenOS in Chinese region and OxygenOS for Europe etc.?
Hi there, I am looking for a way to force update android 10 to my P20 Pro, Its the CLT-L29 version currently with build number 9.1.0.383 and I bought it in Pakistan, updates here seems to take quite a while as compared to other places. Also, I am facing some issues with Bluetooth connection with my car speakers. Hopefully, the update might solve my problem. Would be grateful for any help
There is no update for emui 10 CLT-L29 ATM online. Version on firmware finder is only available for india region
The EMUI 10 (Android 10) beta program got closed some months ago. So we have to wait for the official rollout in march/april.
I'm part of the beta-program and already using Android 10 (10.0.0.145 C432). I can confirm that all Bluetooth issues I had before are gone. Especially with car Bluetooth (there was a lot of stuttering with Android 8 and 9).
My second Phone honor 20 lite get the New update (Android 10/emui 10) and the flagship is waiting........
No more Huawei for me unfortunately. While it is a good phone, updates are not existent. Android 11 is coming out next month and we're still on 9. LOL.
chefnoob said:
No more Huawei for me unfortunately. While it is a good phone, updates are not existent. Android 11 is coming out next month and we're still on 9. LOL.
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I am the same opinion!
Besides, Huawei leaves out P20 series from 10.1 update.
Absolutely my next phone one+ 8 pro
F*ck huawei, you killed my p20 pro!
its bad phone ever ! never buy again !
I really love my P20 Pro, but the Updates... I remember to go to 9 with the modded hisuite because my phone did not get the update.
Without the Google Services its anyway not useful for my to stay with huawai, but because of the bad updates and support my next phone will not be a Huawai.
And i will look for a phone with updates min 3-4 years, is there a phone with that support?
MeisterGigi said:
And i will look for a phone with updates min 3-4 years, is there a phone with that support?
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3-4 years you will get only with an iPhone.
arty_a said:
3-4 years you will get only with an iPhone.
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Thats really a pity. To be honest i have an iphone (11) from my company, but i dont like it, i like android. mhm.
MeisterGigi said:
Thats really a pity. To be honest i have an iphone (11) from my company, but i dont like it, i like android. mhm.
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That is not exactly true.
PIXEL phones are updated for 3 years. That is according to Google's support page.
Following that, your only option is get a popular unlockable phone and install Lineage OS. This gives you longer support.
Your options here are basically Motorola or OnePlus.
Huawei likely would have survived its anti-consumer change in bootloader unlocking stance and slow software rollout alone. However, coupled with Trumps war on Huawei, I expect them to pull a HTC and drop down to irrelevancy within a couple years.
I bought a P20 Pro because I had owned the Nexus 6P, which was the best smart phone I have ever owned. Had I not dropped it into water after after cracking the screen, I would still use it since it is far more usable that the EMUI infected P20.
I cannot imagine any situation where I would buy another Huawei product after this phone.
It is a pity. They may lovely hardware. EMUI is simply this ****tiest software to ever been placed on a phone. I would say even original touchwiz was less annoying.
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That is not exactly true.
PIXEL phones are updated for 3 years. That is according to Google's support page.
Following that, your only option is get...
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Wow, i also came from a 6P, things were very easy there... I dont understand huaweis bootloader war :/
I think i will use my p20 one more year, then i will hope there are some good phones on the market
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3-4 years you will get only with an iPhone.
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+free hardware throttle becouse of "battery saving" :laugh::laugh::laugh: I would never buy anything from this money thirsty company. Overpriced AF
camera function on EMUI 8 is better than EMUI 9. Hope it will come back in EMUI 10.
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+free hardware throttle becouse of "battery saving" :laugh::laugh::laugh: I would never buy anything from this money thirsty company. Overpriced AF
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The times in which only iPhones were overpriced are gone. There's no mich difference between the android flagship devices and iPhones nowadays.
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The times in which only iPhones were overpriced are gone. There's no mich difference between the android flagship devices and iPhones nowadays.
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At least Apple actually updates their software for several years. Unlikely ****ty Huawei or Samsung.
Spend a thousand bucks and get two years max of support. Or spend 1k with apple and get 5.
Seems like a better deal to spend 1k every 5 years than 1k every 2.
Of course, no one would actually spend that much on a Huawei so the carriers need to massively slash the price.
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At least Apple actually updates their software for several years. Unlikely ****ty Huawei or Samsung.
Spend a thousand bucks and get two years max of support. Or spend 1k with apple and get 5.
Seems like a better deal to spend 1k every 5 years than 1k every 2.
Of course, no one would actually spend that much on a Huawei so the carriers need to massively slash the price.
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In fact spend 400 on the SE 2 and get 5 years of updates. I'm seriously considering it as my next phone, I know people bash the looks of it but I loved my 6s and genuinely don't have an issue with it.
I do like my P20 Pro but the lack of updates (even security ones are slow) is just pathetic. I'd go for OnePlus but even they're expensive these days.
Emui 10
There is emui 10 for Europe in firmware finder
Goovsky said:
There is emui 10 for Europe in firmware finder
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It's for C675, like older versions of EMUI 10
I have the Global Version of the Poco F2, the updates on this device have been terrible, I will be exchanging phones from the Poco to a Mi 10 Pro, this is only my opinion but it had great potential, no updates, the lack of security patches at least and some bugs I have encountered have made my experience worst.
I hope they give you your updates.
I hope my experience with the Mi 10 Pro will be good.
I had mi 10 pro before this f2. Good phone
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I have the Global Version of the Poco F2, the updates on this device have been terrible, I will be exchanging phones from the Poco to a Mi 10 Pro, this is only my opinion but it had great potential, no updates, the lack of security patches at least and some bugs I have encountered have made my experience worst.
I hope they give you your updates.
I hope my experience with the Mi 10 Pro will be good.
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China, EU region received update to miui 12. While global update will be rolling out in the coming days/week.
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Good for you. I bought the F2 Pro mainly because of the big battery and the pop-up front camera, which is great for paranoid people like me. That was nearly 2 months ago and my phone has been switched off since then due to lack of custom ROMs, because I'm not a fan of Chinese software. I agree that Xiaomi support for our devices is laughable though, but I have no valid alternative to switch to.
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Good for you. I bought the F2 Pro mainly because of the big battery and the pop-up front camera, which is great for paranoid people like me. That was nearly 2 months ago and my phone has been switched off since then due to lack of custom ROMs, because I'm not a fan of Chinese software. I agree that Xiaomi support for our devices is laughable though, but I have no valid alternative to switch to.
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Yeah I get you, I almost of the times switch phones, but the lack of updates has made my mind on changing it. It is a good phone tho, I have a bug where if I do or receive a call and if I talk with the earpiece they don't hear me, I have to go into speaker and then again to earpiece to be able to talk normally. My signal hasn't been stable tho, I have a redmi note 8 pro which supports same bands and it doesn't have that problem, switching Rat mode doesn't seem to do any effect either. There are many things that need to be fixed but this are software problems.
Hardware wise I haven't had any problem.
The mi note 10 was good but just remembered 1 bug. The curved edge always made false presses. Done my head in!!
I can get a Mi10 for the same price as a F2 Pro and I took the F2 Pro, because few min. Mi10 make me sick, curved and **** hole.
Thinking also about swapping Poco for Find X2 Pro
What do you mean lack of updates? I have had three already! They have updated it to miui 12 and now they have got to update it to Android 11, be patient.
Just install Xiaomi.eu ROM and forget about oficial global ROM. Anyways only 2020 phone worth to get instead POCO F2 Pro is Oneplus 8 Pro and you need spend more money, Mi 10 Pro is garbage having the Oneplus 8 Pro and Oneplus 8 normal version is not worth compared to Poco F2 Pro. Another alternatives are new Oneplus Nord and you save money or 2019 top phones like Oneplus 7T or Realme X2 Pro.
And still every phone have annoying hole or notch, so Poco is the only one choice if you want a clean screen.
Definitely worth getting off global onto xiaomi.eu then? I've had the phone about 4 days and not sure how much work is required to make the switch.
I imagine it's just bootloader unlock, twrp install then clean flash. After that any regular updates should be easy?
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Good for you. I bought the F2 Pro mainly because of the big battery and the pop-up front camera, which is great for paranoid people like me. That was nearly 2 months ago and my phone has been switched off since then due to lack of custom ROMs, because I'm not a fan of Chinese software. I agree that Xiaomi support for our devices is laughable though, but I have no valid alternative to switch to.
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I'm the same I've got a OnePlus 5T that's getting old and the battery life isn't great. Got this because of the battery life, pop up camera, headphone jack. The specs and features are awesome, but the lack of custom ROM support is terrible. I haven't actually began using the phone and was more trying to debloat it, but having issues finding how I can remove everything Google and Xiaomi related without crashing the phone.
I'm not in an urgent hurry to change over, but yeh if LineageOS or any other ROM was released it would be an awesome option. Even I'd be happy with a MIUI ROM that was fully debloated and without gapps, as it's proving tricky to work out what I can remove.
I had a Huawei Mate 8 previously and said I'd never again get a phone that has limited support. I almost went for the OnePlus 8 Pro, but has no headphone jack. Otherwise I almost would go for the OnePlus 7 Pro and just put up with no headphone jack as there's a lot of development for that, but it is old.
batwingnz said:
Definitely worth getting off global onto xiaomi.eu then? I've had the phone about 4 days and not sure how much work is required to make the switch.
I imagine it's just bootloader unlock, twrp install then clean flash. After that any regular updates should be easy?
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Yep, it's as easy as that
XDRdaniel said:
Yep, it's as easy as that
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Thanks for that. I started the process of bootloader unlock, it took many tries of the exact same steps before it acknowledged a valid account and then started then 7 day timer, how anticlimactic lol.
batwingnz said:
Thanks for that. I started the process of bootloader unlock, it took many tries of the exact same steps before it acknowledged a valid account and then started then 7 day timer, how anticlimactic lol.
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I suggest you go for the stable version because the beta has some certification issues at the moment. Unless you need root and also like to fiddle around
dhaern said:
Just install Xiaomi.eu ROM and forget about oficial global ROM. Anyways only 2020 phone worth to get instead POCO F2 Pro is Oneplus 8 Pro and you need spend more money, Mi 10 Pro is garbage having the Oneplus 8 Pro and Oneplus 8 normal version is not worth compared to Poco F2 Pro. Another alternatives are new Oneplus Nord and you save money or 2019 top phones like Oneplus 7T or Realme X2 Pro.
And still every phone have annoying hole or notch, so Poco is the only one choice if you want a clean screen.
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does xiaomi.eu rom pass safetynet with magisk?
Hey everyone, I'm thinking of upgrading from my run-down Redmi K20 Pro.
Do you recommend this device in general? How's thermal performance? How's the custom ROM scene? Do you have any regrets?
theOriginalSuperl2 said:
Hey everyone, I'm thinking of upgrading from my run-down Redmi K20 Pro.
Do you recommend this device in general? How's thermal performance? How's the custom ROM scene? Do you have any regrets?
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I'm using One plus 9 for 4 months and I really like it. The performance is good compared to other flagship phones and I didn't change the custom ROM till now. There is no problem with the ROM but my only regret is the battery drains faster when I see high-quality videos from Youtube.
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I'm using One plus 9 for 4 months and I really like it. The performance is good compared to other flagship phones and I didn't change the custom ROM till now. There is no problem with the ROM but my only regret is the battery drains faster when I see high-quality videos from Youtube.
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I have the OP 9 from launch, hoping it would have the same custom ROM support as its predecessors (I've been sn intermittent OnePlus customer from the original OnePlus One).
Sadly, when mauronofrio departed the TWRP scene, the community never recovered. The lack of a fully functional updated TWRP has caused the development community to essentially wither away, with maybe 2-3 viable custom ROMs standing. That's terrible compared to the past.
Bottom line is that I migrated to the Pixel 6 Pro, where I hoped to find a more vibrant developer community. Same thing here. No TWRP. It's relative desolation. Sigh.
I like the device overall sure go for it, but still if you have a great deal on a SD865+ phone, buy that instead. The SD888 is great and all but only on paper, it heats up quicker than 865 and 855 and then whoosh all the great performance is gone.