Okay so first off, I'm going to be visiting China soon and I'm looking to buy a phone from there. Considering that OnePlus and Xiaomi are very widely known, I'm only going to be considering these two companies. I'm only looking for a secondary phone. So I don't want the best of the best. But I do want a good phone. I'm currently looking at the Xiaomi redmi note 3 pro and the OnePlus One and the OnePlus X but I'm kind of ignoring the OnePlus X. So, first things first, I hate MIUI. Like I hate it to bits. But since it's a secondary phone, i don't think I'll be really that bothered. But Xiaomi is absolutely horrible with releasing kernel sources so CM won't be coming any time soon. And I love customising my device. From flashing ROMs to flashing mods, I love doing it. So my question to you is, Which one do you think should I choose? The obvious answer is of course whichever I prefer. Between its better sounding specs and that horrible horrible way to be able to have your bootloader unlocked, I'm really confused as to what would be a better device for me.
Thank You for your consideration!
Oneplus one
Considering you want to flash Roms and modify your phone I would say that go for one plus one as it has a huge developer base currently developing roms. Redmi note 3 pro is right now new and has amazing specs for half the price. Though the kernel sources will be delayed ( maybe 4 to 6 months at max hopefully) some Roms do come out after that. (Eg check mi 4 forum on mi website). So basically it's how urgently you want to get start modding your phone. The choice is up to you of course.
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Considering you want to flash Roms and modify your phone I would say that go for one plus one as it has a huge developer base currently developing roms. Redmi note 3 pro is right now new and has amazing specs for half the price. Though the kernel sources will be delayed ( maybe 4 to 6 months at max hopefully) some Roms do come out after that. (Eg check mi 4 forum on mi website). So basically it's how urgently you want to get start modding your phone. The choice is up to you of course.
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But on paper, would you say that the Redmi note 3 pro is a better phone?
Bought RN3 last month, to my surprised (thought that bootloader not locked)
bootloader was lock
applied to unlock bootloader. 3 weeks later a msg told me that I can unlock my phone
But
When I hooked my phone to Xioami, my unit was not in their list to be unlock
so stupid my self
.bought this crap
NotAbdShahid said:
Okay so first off, I'm going to be visiting China soon and I'm looking to buy a phone from there. Considering that OnePlus and Xiaomi are very widely known, I'm only going to be considering these two companies. I'm only looking for a secondary phone. So I don't want the best of the best. But I do want a good phone. I'm currently looking at the Xiaomi redmi note 3 pro and the OnePlus One and the OnePlus X but I'm kind of ignoring the OnePlus X. So, first things first, I hate MIUI. Like I hate it to bits. But since it's a secondary phone, i don't think I'll be really that bothered. But Xiaomi is absolutely horrible with releasing kernel sources so CM won't be coming any time soon. And I love customising my device. From flashing ROMs to flashing mods, I love doing it. So my question to you is, Which one do you think should I choose? The obvious answer is of course whichever I prefer. Between its better sounding specs and that horrible horrible way to be able to have your bootloader unlocked, I'm really confused as to what would be a better device for me.
Thank You for your consideration!
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I'd definitely suggest Oneplus One since you like to flash ROMs and tinker with your phone. If you ultimately decide to go for the Redmi Note 3 go for the Snapdragon 650 version. Qualcomm does a good job releasing CAF source so that particular one is more likely to get support but it depends on if a maintainer picks up the device and builds a ROM for it. You could be stuck on stock for a long time
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I have both. I'll go with one anytime any day
I have both. One plus is 2 years old but still looks great. I didn't have too much trouble unlocking, installing custom recovery + root on Redmi note 3 pro but it is very easy on OPO. Cm13 alpha is available for redmi note 3. For the price xiaomi is outstanding. I'd go for the xiaomi.
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Look at the 2g,3g and 4g bands. OPO is better
4 months in owning my first Huawei device and I already miss stock android. I've had Oneplus phones in the past and i have absolutely love them. So would you say the Oneplus 6 is a worthy alternative to the P20 Pro?
If you've owned them before and you know you like the feel of the OS, then I think you're the only one that can answer that question. There are some things you'll trade off, but you'll get stock(ish) OS, and faster updates.
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4 months in owning my first Huawei device and I already miss stock android. I've had Oneplus phones in the past and i have absolutely love them. So would you say the Oneplus 6 is a worthy alternative to the P20 Pro?
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Probably yes, based on what you want. If you'd like to sacrifice your camera (not so much) for a stock and improved OS, fast updates and large community support, well, go on!
Hello fellow XDA users. I decided to change my aging mi5, my first thought was mi mix 2s, but i realized that almost none of the phones has home button nowadays, and maybe i'm old school, but it's kind of important to me. I realized that maybe only huawei and oneplus is the one which is keeping this feature, and since p20 is more pretty for me, i'm really onto buying it… but of course i'm not sure about it, i'm a sucker for stock android, and as i see, there isn't any custom rom here.
Are you generally satisfied with the Huawei rom? Is there anyone working on custom rom? If so, will it be any soon available? For users who are already having the phone, any regrets? Would you choose any different phone if you bought today?
Would greatly appreciate any answers,
cheers.
The Huawei ROM is fine, no limitations, all you need in my opinion. Never felt I have to change the ROM.
I loved the home button in my Honor 9 before. It works well on P20 but, somehow because of the position (bigger screen) the onscreen buttons are easier to reach.
zsoltpopa said:
Hello fellow XDA users. I decided to change my aging mi5, my first thought was mi mix 2s, but i realized that almost none of the phones has home button nowadays, and maybe i'm old school, but it's kind of important to me. I realized that maybe only huawei and oneplus is the one which is keeping this feature, and since p20 is more pretty for me, i'm really onto buying it… but of course i'm not sure about it, i'm a sucker for stock android, and as i see, there isn't any custom rom here.
Are you generally satisfied with the Huawei rom? Is there anyone working on custom rom? If so, will it be any soon available? For users who are already having the phone, any regrets? Would you choose any different phone if you bought today?
Would greatly appreciate any answers,
cheers.
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Bootloader is locked, propably no roms in future. If you are in UK there are no updates. Emui comparing to stock android suck. Go for p20 pro or something else
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Bootloader is locked, propably no roms in future. If you are in UK there are no updates. Emui comparing to stock android suck. Go for p20 pro or something else
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Thanks!!
Emui is just soso. And the screen of p20 is rgbw LCD. That's very uncomfortable.
Hi
I am living in UK and one of my chinese friend want to buy a new phone but not Apple.... He asked me and i was suggest P20. Now he want it to buy in China but using it in UK. So my question is the chinese OS will work in UK without limitations? I mean google map, google translation etc.? Or is only one "global" OS on P20 not like Oneplus where is HydrogenOS in Chinese region and OxygenOS for Europe etc.?
I see that the MIUI 12 stable version (V12.0.1.0.QFDCNXM) for the Chinese ROM came out a few days ago: https://www.xda-developers.com/down...ing-out-several-xiaomi-redmi-mi-poco-devices/
Has anyone received the stable update on the international versions?
Also, would the China version install without unlocking the bootloader and what would be the differences between it and the Global, other than languages?
I'm pretty sure the main difference between the Chinese version and the Global version is that the Chinese version doesn't include Google apps, but the Global one does.
There is also a lot of chinese/ junk apps included.
Global/ eu releases is generally two weeks later than cn releases.
The Chinese version includes MUIU dialer, with but in call recording.
Unfortunately I doubt you could install a China rom, or MUIU dialer, without unlocking your phone first.
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You can install Indonesia version it has miui dialer and call recording, but until now there no miui 12
They said that the mi note 10 will be updated to miui 12 starting from August but not sure when
eamon.ash said:
You can install Indonesia version it has miui dialer and call recording, but until now there no miui 12
They said that the mi note 10 will be updated to miui 12 starting from August but not sure when
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So I can install the Indonesian version on my Global Mi Note 10 without unlocking it?
I'm interested in using the miui dialer for call recording.
I guess you can't simply install the dialer alone?
I might look into this, thanks
Oliver [emoji3]
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I am on MIUI 12.1 (weekly, but stable 12 is there too) eu release (miuios.cz - it is MIUI ROM from Chinese version, not from Global (where is still no official MIUI12 release), but good translated (no translate for outer languages from Xiaomi, better translate from european translators) and added all google things etc. and without chinese bloatware.
Working pretty well without problems.
my mistake
Good news everyone!!!
My phone is now downloading over OTA the Official MIUI V12.0.1.0 QFDMIXM for Xiaomi Mi Note 10 (Global).
Go to your settings!
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Good news everyone!!!
My phone is now downloading over OTA the Official MIUI V12.0.1.0 QFDMIXM for Xiaomi Mi Note 10 (Global).
Go to your settings!
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I'm in the UK with the official UK global version. Unfortunately OTA isn't working for me yet, but I'll keep checking.
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I've downloaded the update over OTA but I can't find the superwallpapers, I'm not sure if it's just me.
Can anyone in the UK report back as to whether the wallpapers are included in this global update as I'm not sure if it's just an issue at my end?
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I've downloaded the update over OTA but I can't find the superwallpapers, I'm not sure if it's just me.
Can anyone in the UK report back as to whether the wallpapers are included in this global update as I'm not sure if it's just an issue at my end?
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Maybe the performance is just not there so they concluded not to include them?
Direct link available here:
https://www.xda-developers.com/down...out-several-xiaomi-redmi-mi-poco-devices/amp/
phoinixtk said:
Good news everyone!!!
My phone is now downloading over OTA the Official MIUI V12.0.1.0 QFDMIXM for Xiaomi Mi Note 10 (Global).
Go to your settings!
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Hey, how's the performance so far? This update popped up on my phone this morning.
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Maybe the performance is just not there so they concluded not to include them?
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I don't think performance is an issue. I've just downloaded and installed these same superwallpapers unlocked for all Android phones from this forum and they run fine with no issues on the note 10.
It's just annoying as they should be included with this Note 10 global MIUI 12 update. You get the same result with this work around, but it just feels like your running none stock versions and you have to use google wallpapers. It's not a huge issue, just annoying as it's not like the Note 10 is a really cheap phone.
fcorry said:
I don't think performance is an issue. I've just downloaded and installed these same superwallpapers unlocked for all Android phones from this forum and they run fine with no issues on the note 10.
It's just annoying as they should be included with this Note 10 global MIUI 12 update. You get the same result with this work around, but it just feels like your running none stock versions and you have to use google wallpapers. It's not a huge issue, just annoying as it's not like the Note 10 is a really cheap phone.
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They haven't included Super Wallpapers in SD730 phones.
I have the Super Wallpapers on my Mi Note 10, but I can see why Xiaomi did not include them on SD730 phones. The performance is OK, but there are a lot of framedrops when opening/closing demanding apps, also when opening the new control center/notification tray. It's not bad, it's just not good enough.
Some people complain about framedrops in MIUI, and it would get worse with superwallpapers.
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They haven't included Super Wallpapers in SD730 phones.
I have the Super Wallpapers on my Mi Note 10, but I can see why Xiaomi did not include them on SD730 phones. The performance is OK, but there are a lot of framedrops when opening/closing demanding apps, also when opening the new control center/notification tray. It's not bad, it's just not good enough.
Some people complain about framedrops in MIUI, and it would get worse with superwallpapers.
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Yes we can agree with that. It just saddens me a bit to see such an expensive midranger from last year struggeling already with such a simple thing - especially powered by a "gaming SoC". Its not like a hefty task. Encountered some framedrops with Archero as well.
To bad the Mi 10 cameras suck and the Pro is way to expensive. Poco F2 is to big and pop up camera + indisplay sensor is asking for troubles.
Honestly speaking I don't believe its the SoC but more or less a lack of optimization of Kernel Parameters, especially since its Android 10 now.
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Yes we can agree with that. It just saddens me a bit to see such an expensive midranger from last year struggeling already with such a simple thing - especially powered by a "gaming SoC". Its not like a hefty task. Encountered some framedrops with Archero as well.
To bad the Mi 10 cameras suck and the Pro is way to expensive. Poco F2 is to big and pop up camera + indisplay sensor is asking for troubles.
Honestly speaking I don't believe its the SoC but more or less a lack of optimization of Kernel Parameters, especially since its Android 10 now.
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It's definitely optimization. On my Oppo Find X2 Pro (SD865), with super wallpapers on, the system ui also drops frames. Of course, this is because its not made for that phone. But that's where it needs optimization. I think they already tried to optimize it a bit, but they didnt succeed to meet the quality standards, so they just let the super wallpapers slip on SD730 phones.
Because, it's really not that bad, its just that the phones does get slower with the super wallpapers on on the Mi Note 10. And if normal consumers use these super wallpapers, they blame Xiaomi for a slower phone.
More things need optimization in MIUI. For example the camera app lags a lot. Not just with the 108MP camera, but also with the ultrawide and tele (2x, 3.7x)
[Warning, my own opinion below]
If it is the hardware, then it is what it is. The cameras are flagship-grade and thats where they put all the money into. Plus, they chose a curved screen. The build is also very premium for Xiaomi standards. (not as premium as a real flagship though, it still misses the real flagship feel, but better than all of the other Xiaomi phones I had)
Also don't forget the extremely good battery on this phone. I only paid €330 for this device, and I am very happy with it. I already have the best performance on my Oppo, so that's why I didn't choose the Poco or 10 Lite as a second phone. I also just love MIUI. ColorOS (7) and Oxygen OS are so boring. But yeah, you sacrifice that there are more bugs and framedrops, but atleast they try to be creative. This is NOT a mainstream opinion though haha.
Jordytjes said:
It's definitely optimization. On my Oppo Find X2 Pro (SD865), with super wallpapers on, the system ui also drops frames. Of course, this is because its not made for that phone. But that's where it needs optimization. I think they already tried to optimize it a bit, but they didnt succeed to meet the quality standards, so they just let the super wallpapers slip on SD730 phones.
Because, it's really not that bad, its just that the phones does get slower with the super wallpapers on on the Mi Note 10. And if normal consumers use these super wallpapers, they blame Xiaomi for a slower phone.
More things need optimization in MIUI. For example the camera app lags a lot. Not just with the 108MP camera, but also with the ultrawide and tele (2x, 3.7x)
[Warning, my own opinion below]
If it is the hardware, then it is what it is. The cameras are flagship-grade and thats where they put all the money into. Plus, they chose a curved screen. The build is also very premium for Xiaomi standards. (not as premium as a real flagship though, it still misses the real flagship feel, but better than all of the other Xiaomi phones I had)
Also don't forget the extremely good battery on this phone. I only paid €330 for this device, and I am very happy with it. I already have the best performance on my Oppo, so that's why I didn't choose the Poco or 10 Lite as a second phone. I also just love MIUI. ColorOS (7) and Oxygen OS are so boring. But yeah, you sacrifice that there are more bugs and framedrops, but atleast they try to be creative. This is NOT a mainstream opinion though haha.
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Yea, we can agree that the Note 10 is something special. I'd just hope it gets a bit more attention in regards to finetuning it like the past phones from Xiaomi. The thing is more or less Googles fault with its recent move against root and unlocked bootloaders. It keeps developers away which means less third-party kernels and less community involvement like in the past. It feels a little bit like they gave up on the Mi Note 10 and moved to Mi 10 - just due to the SoC and RAM.
Hows the camera software in the Oppo? I've looked at a few reviews and found very satisfying samples making me understand how Oppo and Vivo are before Xiaomi now in China. Only thing keeping me away are prices, language and warranty for EU. Even imports are just to pricey. Aside from that Oppo is on my "want to have list" as well together with the Vivo F4 Pro. I've long since gave up on OnePlus, on the other hand, mind you - but that's also very subjective.
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Yea, we can agree that the Note 10 is something special. I'd just hope it gets a bit more attention in regards to finetuning it like the past phones from Xiaomi. The thing is more or less Googles fault with its recent move against root and unlocked bootloaders. It keeps developers away which means less third-party kernels and less community involvement like in the past. It feels a little bit like they gave up on the Mi Note 10 and moved to Mi 10 - just due to the SoC and RAM.
Hows the camera software in the Oppo? I've looked at a few reviews and found very satisfying samples making me understand how Oppo and Vivo are before Xiaomi now in China. Only thing keeping me away are prices, language and warranty for EU. Even imports are just to pricey. Aside from that Oppo is on my "want to have list" as well together with the Vivo F4 Pro. I've long since gave up on OnePlus, on the other hand, mind you - but that's also very subjective.
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The camera software is pretty good. The colors are very natural, no focus issues, no framedrops in video, stable video (also on 4k60). I am pretty satisfied. I don't like the colors though when AI is on.
I have bought my Oppo Find X2 Pro at my carrier here in the Netherlands with 2 years of local warranty. They use the same (awful) repair company as Samsung and Apple use here.
The rest of the software (ColorOS) is good, but boring. ColorOS nowadays feels as if its OxygenOS with their ''not-so-pretty'' UI changes. The performance is very good with almost no framedrops (but there are very little animations lol). The only thing that's not so great is the battery life. (standby)
But yeah, its an expensive phone. I paid €950 for it. There were just no other choices. Mi 10 Pro only has an 90Hz display @1080P. OnePlus only 3X tele and 256GB for the same price (+the huge display issues). Samsung only possible when importing, but that would have been very expensive and no local warranty (bcs of Exynos, which is just trash, not just the performance but also huge standby drain). The Oppo has everything spec-wise (only thing that is not possible is unlocking the bootloader, hence why I bought a second phone too).
Hey everyone, I'm thinking of upgrading from my run-down Redmi K20 Pro.
Do you recommend this device in general? How's thermal performance? How's the custom ROM scene? Do you have any regrets?
theOriginalSuperl2 said:
Hey everyone, I'm thinking of upgrading from my run-down Redmi K20 Pro.
Do you recommend this device in general? How's thermal performance? How's the custom ROM scene? Do you have any regrets?
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I'm using One plus 9 for 4 months and I really like it. The performance is good compared to other flagship phones and I didn't change the custom ROM till now. There is no problem with the ROM but my only regret is the battery drains faster when I see high-quality videos from Youtube.
randylahey786 said:
I'm using One plus 9 for 4 months and I really like it. The performance is good compared to other flagship phones and I didn't change the custom ROM till now. There is no problem with the ROM but my only regret is the battery drains faster when I see high-quality videos from Youtube.
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I have the OP 9 from launch, hoping it would have the same custom ROM support as its predecessors (I've been sn intermittent OnePlus customer from the original OnePlus One).
Sadly, when mauronofrio departed the TWRP scene, the community never recovered. The lack of a fully functional updated TWRP has caused the development community to essentially wither away, with maybe 2-3 viable custom ROMs standing. That's terrible compared to the past.
Bottom line is that I migrated to the Pixel 6 Pro, where I hoped to find a more vibrant developer community. Same thing here. No TWRP. It's relative desolation. Sigh.
I like the device overall sure go for it, but still if you have a great deal on a SD865+ phone, buy that instead. The SD888 is great and all but only on paper, it heats up quicker than 865 and 855 and then whoosh all the great performance is gone.