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Why Is Development So Slow?????

Honor 8 Is My Daily Driver. I Bought This Phone Because it was specedout and is very good but i was disappointed when i saw its development on XDA Even huawei are very Slow in keeping phone up to date.
Man!! I had s4 previously. Its development on XDA was hell of a lot better then Honor 8.
Those Days. Ahhhh!!!?
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I still like the phone, but as you said, the slow update process and no release of kernel source code is what will keep me away from buying Huawei/Honor devices in the future. I am still on B360 despite the B380 has been released for about 2 months now. Also, Honor promised to keep the device updated for 2 years and yet they already said Honor 8 won't receive EMUI 5.1.

sltwp said:
I still like the phone, but as you said, the slow update process and no release of kernel source code is what will keep me away from buying Huawei/Honor devices in the future. I am still on B360 despite the B380 has been released for about 2 months now. Also, Honor promised to keep the device updated for 2 years and yet they already said Honor 8 won't receive EMUI 5.1.
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Which Model are you using? Becuase i got B380 yesterday as ota update.
What Huawei has said No emui5.1!! . when this happened?

Arham Awan said:
Which Model are you using? Becuase i got B380 yesterday as ota update.
What Huawei has said No emui5.1!! . when this happened?
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I am using FRD-L09
As for EMUI 5.1, probably should have worded differently. Honor said that they don't plan to release EMUI 5.1 for Honor 8. Take a look at this thread and especially what johnhux7 said:
I have been taking to Honor UK on hangouts.
Honor has no plans to release EMUI 5.1 at the MO.
They also said about the promice of updates :
"The "promise" was a Honor US thing. No European countries were part of that."
They also said :
"The Honor 8 is due to get an update soon. As to what's in that again no info."
These are exact copies of what they said.
Will post more when they say more
John
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"We are committed to updates, we just don't want to be caught out by publishing press releases with timescales in."
"The whole deal with XDA again was a US, neither Honor US or XDA consulted us before announcing the relationship."
John
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Also, in case you missed it, there is a big deal right now with Huawei P10/P10 Plus regarding different performance in the same device: http://www.androidauthority.com/hua...r-lpddr4-ram-ufs-2-0-ufs-2-1-emmc-5-1-765670/

sltwp said:
I am using FRD-L09
As for EMUI 5.1, probably should have worded differently. Honor said that they don't plan to release EMUI 5.1 for Honor 8. Take a look at this thread and especially what johnhux7 said:
Also, in case you missed it, there is a big deal right now with Huawei P10/P10 Plus regarding different performance in the same device: http://www.androidauthority.com/hua...r-lpddr4-ram-ufs-2-0-ufs-2-1-emmc-5-1-765670/
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Im Also Using FD-L09 But I got Update Yesterday.
And I Recently Read an article about Emui 5.1 features and stuff, at the end of the article it was written that Mate 9 And Honor 8 Most probably will get the update first in Huawei phone series.
Plus I think Honor 8 Is still relatively A latest phone so why would they even try to not update it to Emui 5.1.
But Probably we should wait and see, what happens.

Just got OTA update, i'm not sure it is worth it, all we need emui 5.1

infernalhotdog7777 said:
Just got OTA update, i'm not sure it is worth it, all we need emui 5.1
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But It Doesnt Improves Battery life. I think So .

Huawei clearly doesn't care. They already have your money, and they don't give a damn about their customers.
This is definitely the last Huawei I'm getting. And since I'm in a position to influence others to buy new devices, I'll tell them together avoid it too.
I'm also in Canada, which is one of the few markets they actually have sales in, and use the Huawei name instead of Honor.
So they really should try to avoid having a bad rep here, but are doing nothing to have a good reputation.
At the end of the day you truly get what you pay for, and while the hardware is nice, it's cheap for a reason.

Yeah Huawei doesn't care. I received Nougat after release, but after I couldn't wait till B380, because battery issue. I didn't receive it!
Honor 8 will not receive EMUI 5.1.
I regret that I bought H8, I should buy another phone like 1+3T.

Honestly, the honor 8 is not a bad phone and I really love it. But EMUI 4.1 is horrible and 5.0 is wonderful but had the battery issue. Seriously, this phone drains 2.1% every hour for no reason when my Moto G loaded with the same app setup is draining less than 1% every hour.
The honor 8 in terms of the US model is so neglected and the lack of communication is my problem. Just heard news about the Moto z play gen 2, so you can bet I am buying that and ditching this phone, just gonna sell this and call it a day with Huawei if the updates just never come to even address the battery problem. I don't enjoy charging my phone every single day for only 12 hours of usage and 4 hours of screen on time.
For example here on my Moto G4 play I have Facebook messenger and just look at its background and foreground usage:
And the Moto g is from 3 days of usage and actually opening and using the app and interacting with chat heads.
Then here is the honor 8 which is just 12 HOURS and I NEVER even opened the app on the honor 8:
What is going on here and EMUI 5.0 is supposed to be the more power efficient one and look especially at the pier consumption, the honor 8 used so much more doing what?...
I could go on and on about the app usage differences and the draining. I have Facebook as well with the MOTO G using only 19 mAh with actually opening and using the app and playing a fee videos, while the honor 8 sits at over 200 mAh again with not even opening it.
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Same here, since EMUI 5 my battery doesn't last as long as on EMUI 4.1. I think it's a global problem of A7/Emui 5.

since EMUI 5 my battery doesn't last as long !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Will the Honor 8 receive anymore further updates?

I just bought an honor 8 and I read somewhere that it now will no longer be receiving any further updates and no upgrade to Oreo. Is this by chance 100 percent correct? Amy info on this would be greatly appreciated. If it will not be receiving any further updates from Honor then I may return it. I just am not sure what's true on this. Thanks for the help on this.

This is not true. Huawei has not officially confirmed or refuted anything. But I would personally prefer Honor 9 at this time, the price is not so much higher than Honor 8.

Yeah but I personally don't think we will ever see the Honor 9 in the US. My prediction is that we will get the Honor 8 Pro here in December before Christmas. Just a gut feeling as the Honor 8 name is already so widely known here that it just makes sense that they will feed off the Honor 8 name and release the pro model of next here. I just wonder about the current honor 8 and if it will in fact get more updates.

It Will receive further updates

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It Will receive further updates
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That's good to know. How do you know this for sure though. It's that a definite? There is another thread that talks about the honor will now no longer be receiving updates. Was curious how you knew for sure?

Atm i'm running the B394 rom and on Firmware finder there are already B350, B351 and B135 Roma (all beta) so an update is coming soon.

SALENTINVM said:
Atm i'm running the B394 rom and on Firmware finder there are already B350, B351 and B135 Roma (all beta) so an update is coming soon.
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That's really good to hear. I'm glad to know that. I thought it was the end for the honor 8 to be honest.

Seems like after doing a lot of research on various forums the majority of people say the honor 8 will definitely keep receiving updates for a while to come. That's a very good thing bc I just bought my third honor 8 and this time I plan to keep it long term. I typically go through a lot of phones testing out new gear. I finally decided that the honor 8 is my all time favorite phone which I do not consider EMUI to be Android at all. In fact it's nothing like Android. It's so unique and different I've said many times in the past that EMUI could easily be branded and marketed as a third major mobile software choice in the industry. I believe since they could not be connected to IOS they were forced to be thrown in with Android but it's nothing remotely like pure android at all or what so ever. In fact I find EMUI to be as smooth interface wise as apple IOS where most Android interface with skins are rather choppy and sticky. Not EMUI as it's butter smooth and very fluid. Huawei Honor has definitely created a unique hybrid software that it cannot be compared to anything at all. It's in a league of its own and as soon as they officially entered the US market full blown watch how fast they over take Samsung for the top spot. The interface of the software is a joy to use. Zero lag at all. It's as fluid as IOS so there is no doubt it will fast become the most popular in the Android world if they don't decide to Branch out and brand their own software to be labeled as the third major software choice within the mobile industry. I can't wait until they enter the US market and I believe within two to three years they will be equal too or above Samsung for the top spot world wide. It'll be interesting to watch take place. As long as they stay true to their core roots in terms of pricing with high end budget phones such as the honor 8 and leave the Huawei side as their premium flagship phones there is no way they won't over take Samsung. Huawei honor is deep with their variety of offerings with the likes for example the honor 8 which is a very affordable phone but it indeed has flagship specs and a awesome camera. I hope their next US release for honor is the honor 8 pro. It has a 5.7 inch display and would be a great media phone for movies and YouTube and such. I'd love to have one to rotate out with my honor 8. The reason I believe the honor 8 pro will be their next US honor release is bc the honor 8 is already widely known in the US so it makes sense for them to keep feeding off the honor 8 name and release the pro model next.

Why will Honor 8 not get the Oreo update? It's last year Honor's flagship, every flagship gain two next androids versions at least...

Just what I had been reading on other forums and here lead me to that. I now think it will. I excited to know this now.

I don't know if we will get Oreo. However, in regards to general updates, my FRD-L14 just received the B389 update today. I think it mainly just updates security to the Oct 5th patch, at least it is an update.

Procrustinator said:
I don't know if we will get Oreo. However, in regards to general updates, my FRD-L14 just received the B389 update today. I think it mainly just updates security to the Oct 5th patch, at least it is an update.
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I sure hope we get Oreo. Technically we should and I really think it would be a bad business decision on Huawei honors part not to give the honor 8 oreo due to how close it is before they enter the US market full blown and officially. They don't want to enter this market on a bad note. Plus this is honors flagship phone for the US. They would loose a ton of US customer support if they choose not to update this phone to Oreo. They didn't climb up to number two in the world based off of bad decisions for their customers so I think we will get it but it will be very late to the party getting it.

Android 9 Pie

With this finally being released, do you think we'll get the update on our devices or will we be stuck on Oreo

Sometime next year maybe.

Of course the P20 Pro will get Android 9. It would be a huge embarrassment for Huawei if it didn’t. I‘m pretty confident it will happen, maybe even in late 2018. I‘m secretly also hoping for Android 10.

I hope it does, but with how Huawei updates phones I have feeling we may not see it anytime within the next 6 - 12 months. Look at the mate 10 Pro, still no Oreo 8.1 and how long as that been out.
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When I spoke to an Huawei rep they said we're guaranteed one major update so technically yes, we will get Android 9.

I got Oreo on my mate 9 one year later in dec 2017. So I presume we will get pie by April 2018.

This is their reply (UK) when asked about if for P20 Pro and Mate 10 Pro
I have verified and currently we do not have information if the two devices you mentioned will receive the Android P update
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But then getting information from them is dismal.
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Seeing how various huawei devices are getting their oreo (not 8.1 maybe, but still, it got a major version upgrade), i think we will have it eventually. I dont feel any rush either

otonieru said:
Seeing how various huawei devices are getting their oreo (not 8.1 maybe, but still, it got a major version upgrade), i think we will have it eventually. I dont feel any rush either
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I love the P20 pro but i can't go with Huawei ever again they're just like motorola with updates its always "if or when" they decide, i can't see why they don't let us get it via a beta programme or something.

They have beta programs in China. Club.Huawei is quite an active user base and new features get tested by the members' beta program. Unfortunately, non-chinese Huawei-IDs can not enter the beta.
Here is the thread (attn: chinese obviously): https://club.huawei.com/thread-16854269-1-1.html

We'll get it by Q4 of 2018.

I have my p20 pro for three months and I have got 3 updates. One every month. 128 the day I opened it, 131 the next month and now 152. What delays?? What more to ask.??
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kingcapning said:
I love the P20 pro but i can't go with Huawei ever again they're just like motorola with updates its always "if or when" they decide, i can't see why they don't let us get it via a beta programme or something.
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Well,
If you didnt count a major update (like oreo to pie), i alreary update my P20 pro 7 times,
From initial .103 to .152 now. With august security update. So i guess, there's no delay in that regards.

Huawei is absolute crap when it comes to Android upgrades, even for their latest and greatest phone.
Genuinely don't expect to see anything until early to mid 2019. Just pray for ROM development is all.

AhsanU said:
Huawei is absolute crap when it comes to Android upgrades, even for their latest and greatest phone.
Genuinely don't expect to see anything until early to mid 2019. Just pray for ROM development is all.
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dont expect for rom dev. they shut off bootloader unlocking support. no dev gonna use the phone anymore, unless bootloader is unlockable

sniper20 said:
I have my p20 pro for three months and I have got 3 updates. One every month. 128 the day I opened it, 131 the next month and now 152. What delays?? What more to ask.??
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otonieru said:
Well,
If you didnt count a major update (like oreo to pie), i alreary update my P20 pro 7 times,
From initial .103 to .152 now. With august security update. So i guess, there's no delay in that regards.
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But a lot of users in UK who have received the C782 model aren't getting these updates and thus reason why they are not happy about the update process. It's luck if you got the C432 model and Huawei won't advise which resellers are selling them.
Lucky we've just received update with July security fixes, prior to that we got one last month with June's update and the update before that was the update that included April's security fixes.
They should have just released one version of the phone for all markets so everyone got same updates.
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Huawei reportedly testing Android 9.0 Pie on P20, Mate 10 Pro, Honor flagships:
https://www.androidauthority.com/huawei-android-pie-893642/

krs360 said:
Huawei reportedly testing Android 9.0 Pie on P20, Mate 10 Pro, Honor flagships:
https://www.androidauthority.com/huawei-android-pie-893642/
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Yeh but they treat the Pro differently. Even got a link from them to join beta testing but nothing for P20 Pro
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I doubt their priority for updates are top of their list.. they rather pump out new phones... thats why I would never use another samsung phone... Huawei looks a little better.. updates every 2 month.. haha samsung was like 3-4 months.. almost 8months for 8.0 to come out for the S7

gd6noob said:
I doubt their priority for updates are top of their list.. they rather pump out new phones... thats why I would never use another samsung phone... Huawei looks a little better.. updates every 2 month.. haha samsung was like 3-4 months.. almost 8months for 8.0 to come out for the S7
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The Mate 10 Pro is still on 8.0 and it was released November last year and is classed as flagship device, yet only had 2 updates this year which included March and June Security updates.
So probably won't get 8.1 until earliest November and 9 sometime next year.
As for P20 Pro with the new Mate 20 imminent then we won't see an update on the device until after that is released and probably not till next year.
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EMUI 10.0 for P20 Pro CLT-L29

Hi there, I am looking for a way to force update android 10 to my P20 Pro, Its the CLT-L29 version currently with build number 9.1.0.383 and I bought it in Pakistan, updates here seems to take quite a while as compared to other places. Also, I am facing some issues with Bluetooth connection with my car speakers. Hopefully, the update might solve my problem. Would be grateful for any help

There is no update for emui 10 CLT-L29 ATM online. Version on firmware finder is only available for india region

The EMUI 10 (Android 10) beta program got closed some months ago. So we have to wait for the official rollout in march/april.
I'm part of the beta-program and already using Android 10 (10.0.0.145 C432). I can confirm that all Bluetooth issues I had before are gone. Especially with car Bluetooth (there was a lot of stuttering with Android 8 and 9).

My second Phone honor 20 lite get the New update (Android 10/emui 10) and the flagship is waiting........

No more Huawei for me unfortunately. While it is a good phone, updates are not existent. Android 11 is coming out next month and we're still on 9. LOL.

chefnoob said:
No more Huawei for me unfortunately. While it is a good phone, updates are not existent. Android 11 is coming out next month and we're still on 9. LOL.
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I am the same opinion!
Besides, Huawei leaves out P20 series from 10.1 update.

Absolutely my next phone one+ 8 pro
F*ck huawei, you killed my p20 pro!

its bad phone ever ! never buy again !

I really love my P20 Pro, but the Updates... I remember to go to 9 with the modded hisuite because my phone did not get the update.
Without the Google Services its anyway not useful for my to stay with huawai, but because of the bad updates and support my next phone will not be a Huawai.
And i will look for a phone with updates min 3-4 years, is there a phone with that support?

MeisterGigi said:
And i will look for a phone with updates min 3-4 years, is there a phone with that support?
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3-4 years you will get only with an iPhone.

arty_a said:
3-4 years you will get only with an iPhone.
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Thats really a pity. To be honest i have an iphone (11) from my company, but i dont like it, i like android. mhm.

MeisterGigi said:
Thats really a pity. To be honest i have an iphone (11) from my company, but i dont like it, i like android. mhm.
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That is not exactly true.
PIXEL phones are updated for 3 years. That is according to Google's support page.
Following that, your only option is get a popular unlockable phone and install Lineage OS. This gives you longer support.
Your options here are basically Motorola or OnePlus.
Huawei likely would have survived its anti-consumer change in bootloader unlocking stance and slow software rollout alone. However, coupled with Trumps war on Huawei, I expect them to pull a HTC and drop down to irrelevancy within a couple years.
I bought a P20 Pro because I had owned the Nexus 6P, which was the best smart phone I have ever owned. Had I not dropped it into water after after cracking the screen, I would still use it since it is far more usable that the EMUI infected P20.
I cannot imagine any situation where I would buy another Huawei product after this phone.
It is a pity. They may lovely hardware. EMUI is simply this ****tiest software to ever been placed on a phone. I would say even original touchwiz was less annoying.

pablo_max said:
That is not exactly true.
PIXEL phones are updated for 3 years. That is according to Google's support page.
Following that, your only option is get...
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Wow, i also came from a 6P, things were very easy there... I dont understand huaweis bootloader war :/
I think i will use my p20 one more year, then i will hope there are some good phones on the market

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3-4 years you will get only with an iPhone.
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+free hardware throttle becouse of "battery saving" :laugh::laugh::laugh: I would never buy anything from this money thirsty company. Overpriced AF

camera function on EMUI 8 is better than EMUI 9. Hope it will come back in EMUI 10.

BlayDee said:
+free hardware throttle becouse of "battery saving" :laugh::laugh::laugh: I would never buy anything from this money thirsty company. Overpriced AF
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The times in which only iPhones were overpriced are gone. There's no mich difference between the android flagship devices and iPhones nowadays.

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The times in which only iPhones were overpriced are gone. There's no mich difference between the android flagship devices and iPhones nowadays.
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At least Apple actually updates their software for several years. Unlikely ****ty Huawei or Samsung.
Spend a thousand bucks and get two years max of support. Or spend 1k with apple and get 5.
Seems like a better deal to spend 1k every 5 years than 1k every 2.
Of course, no one would actually spend that much on a Huawei so the carriers need to massively slash the price.

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At least Apple actually updates their software for several years. Unlikely ****ty Huawei or Samsung.
Spend a thousand bucks and get two years max of support. Or spend 1k with apple and get 5.
Seems like a better deal to spend 1k every 5 years than 1k every 2.
Of course, no one would actually spend that much on a Huawei so the carriers need to massively slash the price.
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In fact spend 400 on the SE 2 and get 5 years of updates. I'm seriously considering it as my next phone, I know people bash the looks of it but I loved my 6s and genuinely don't have an issue with it.
I do like my P20 Pro but the lack of updates (even security ones are slow) is just pathetic. I'd go for OnePlus but even they're expensive these days.

Emui 10
There is emui 10 for Europe in firmware finder

Goovsky said:
There is emui 10 for Europe in firmware finder
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It's for C675, like older versions of EMUI 10

EMUI 11 imminent

The final version of EMUI 11 has been posted to Huawei's servers for the L29 C432 Mate 20 X, 11.0.0.138 so should hopefully get it in the next couple of weeks probably with the January security update. That will likely be the last major update this phone will get with only sporadic security updates thereafter. I'm keeping my eye on the Mi 11 Pro/ Ultra but this has been and still is an incredible phone.

Such a great phone, I will use it until dies!
I have newer phones but this one is still my daily driver.

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The final version of EMUI 11 has been posted to Huawei's servers for the L29 C432 Mate 20 X, 11.0.0.138 so should hopefully get it in the next couple of weeks probably with the January security update. That will likely be the last major update this phone will get with only sporadic security updates thereafter. I'm keeping my eye on the Mi 11 Pro/ Ultra but this has been and still is an incredible phone.
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No security update only for 5g 20x and 20 lite...

cloud1 said:
Such a great phone, I will use it until dies!
I have newer phones but this one is still my daily driver.
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There is no better phone...those stupid overpriced crap samsungs and iphones sht can only duck against 20 x

I've a Singapore L29 C636 version being used in USA.. I got 11.0.0.138 today and so far no issues.. Visually I so far noticed more options for AOD