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Bad luck for all non-Z series users..... No Lollypop
http://www.xperiablog.net/2015/03/06/sony-says-no-lollipop-for-non-xperia-z-series-owners/
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imElectronica said:
Bad luck for all non-Z series users..... No Lollypop
http://www.xperiablog.net/2015/03/06/sony-says-no-lollipop-for-non-xperia-z-series-owners/
WTF ???????¿
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So what's the problem, mate?
The E3 has a fully grown up OS version. Probably will receive the 4.4 update, just like the dual-sim variant and it will be OK.
I don't understand all the hype surrounding the 5.0 version. Not even all the top-rangers from last year got the update.
They are still launching new models with Kit Kat on board.
Moving on from this point of view I've read a lot of threads regarding both official AND custom builds of 5.0 and in all these threads users are complaining about some serious memory management problems. Putting it clear the RAM management, at this moment, is worse on Lollipop than on Kit Kat. I have a friend with a LG G3, the version with 3GB RAM and after the update he also noticed that the memory management is worse.:laugh:
So my true and sincere advice is to be happy with a fully optimized OS version than unhappy with a buggy-first-cycle-of-life version of the same OS which you will probably use just the same I have a SGS4, the I9505 version with Snapdragon 600 CPU which is scheduled to receive Lollipop but I'm not in a hurry to install it. Both the I9500 (Exynos) and I9506 (Snapdragon 800) variants of the SGS4 received it already and everyone reports lots of bugs. I'm not saying that Sony is above or bellow Sammy, but the OS is the same so the problems will be the same. And if you wonder what am I doing on this thread let me just say that I bought my father an E3 as a gift So I'm keeping a close eye on it :cyclops:
So don't worry and enjoy the phone because it's a perfect mid-ranger! Cheers and all the best :highfive:
Perfect mid-ranger with only 4GB of internal storage (whilst E4 comes with double that storage at 2/3 of the price of E3 + better front camera)? At least lollilop would solve the internal storage issue to some extend.
cnagr said:
Perfect mid-ranger with only 4GB of internal storage (whilst E4 comes with double that storage at 2/3 of the price of E3 + better front camera)? At least lollilop would solve the internal storage issue to some extend.
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I dont,t think if we have ram problem lollypop will be usefull at all.as he told 3gig,s of ram had problem.
Storage is not an issue i have 7gigs of games on my sd with 1 gig free internel storage.
E4 is reallly lost everything from e3 e4 has super small datacable for charging. Fully crap.it,s like sony just reduced quality to make a low price phone. Even micromax had better phone than e4. And yellowness in display is worse thing. Just grab e3 instead of e4.
I reallly love sony for build quality. Which it lost in e4.
Don,t know why but i really think of samsung like micromax and other,s.
Sent From My Sony Xperia E3 D2212 using XDA app.
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So what's the problem, mate?
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After 2 or 3 month, when 5.0 is released fully & all new apps's comparability is 5.0 or above, then what you do.....with ur 4.4.4.....No themes no apps
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After 2 or 3 month, when 5.0 is released fully & all new apps's comparability is 5.0 or above, then what you do.....with ur 4.4.4.....No themes no apps
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Excuse me, but can you name at least 5 apps or games that worked on 4.0.4 Ice Cream Sandwich and don't work anymore because of the OS update? And 4.0.4 is how old by now? I quote: "Release to manufacturing: October 19, 2011". Aham! That's like 4 years ago Think you going to keep the E3 for at least 4 years? In fact let me tell you that Xposed doesn't have a stable version on 5.0 yet. And that's a main reason for a lot of people not to upgrade to 5.0.
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Every one have their own thinking Bro....all d best
So sad but is not the end!!
:crying: Guys, dont talk so fast!!!
Not necesarily we have bad luck.
Remember guys, there´s an AOSP development for mid and low range 2014 Xperia devices such as: E3, M2, T2 ultra, T3 and C3. That devices may receive lollipop through official or unofficial way after Z series.
I know you are going to say: AOSP is not a requirement for make a final and stable version. But, Why was the reason sony released an AOSP?
http://developer.sonymobile.com/kno...e/open-devices/list-of-devices-and-resources/
http://developer.sonymobile.com/201...ased-2014-xperia-devices-now-supported-video/
Even if is not lollipop for us, we can keep with kitkat, keeping on mind the highest KK stability compared with released 5.0.1 or 5.0.2 lollipop versions.
I know AOSP is bug filled, but some developers are working in that issues. Theres no CM12 stable version for Flamingo (E3) but @freexperia is working at least in LTE E3 devices.
Yesterday, Unofficial Xperia Blog reported some screenshots of Xperia C3 running something like lollipop in chinese market, but it may be fake
http://www.xperiablog.net/2015/03/0...enshots-emerge-could-it-be-landing-after-all/
And also, dont let intimidate by three or four tweets or android related blogs with the bad new. We should wait the official confirmation on Sony Xperia official blog.
BTW: if Sony really dont want update 2014 models and just update Z series and upcoming 2015 models, they will lose market quota. Sony is not good in the mobile market, forget the users and dont listen them can be a mistake for Kazuo Hirai´s company.
And here is the final comment: my next phone will be from motorola or another brand updateable, because Sony, LG, Samsung, Alcatel and others forgot low and mid range devices, thanks to the high fragmentation of the premise "Same but different"
People change its devices each two years, so, we never will get the latest version of android on any device, even if the device has infinite ram, processor and storage! Certainly the true is many people get/buy a low mid range instead a high and expensive flagship
We should support cyanogenmod or develop our android versions for stop programated obsolescence! Look, android versions rolling in the world: 2.3 4.0.X 4.1.X, 4.2.X 4.3.X 4.4X, 5.0.X. This is not fair for users!!! Android is doing bad, they should follow iOS example and keep updated even the legacy devices on all brands!!
lexiyuri said:
:crying: Guys, dont talk so fast ..
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True....Bro
Maybe there will be lollipop upgrade..
http://www.xperiablog.net/2015/03/08/sony-now-says-no-comment-on-non-xperia-z-series-lollipop-plans/
atomicr said:
Maybe there will be lollipop upgrade..
http://www.xperiablog.net/2015/03/08/sony-now-says-no-comment-on-non-xperia-z-series-lollipop-plans/
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It all depends on sony.
Sent From My Sony Xperia E3 dual using XDA app.
Lollipop 5.1 binaries for E3
http://www.androidauthority.com/sony-releases-5-1-binaries-xperia-phones-594087/
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Lollipop 5.1 binaries for E3
http://www.androidauthority.com/sony-releases-5-1-binaries-xperia-phones-594087/
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screen work (no resume from sleep bug), but no wifi/baseband/camera
Today was a day of bad news. I just read this article and apparently the Lollipop update does not bring the new camera API to the Xperia Z1/2/3 series. I could cry!
Now I was wondering, since Custom ROMs can alter so much for a device, whether they can enable the camera API even though Sony doesn't. It would be awesome if there's a developer who could manage to do this - if at all possible of course. I was planning on making a video of these potential new camera controls, but I was surprised to see that Sony just didn't allow the API to be used (I don't know the technical details so correct me if I'm wrong about the actual phrasing there).
Do you have any thoughts on this? Are you a developer, and do you have any experience with this or similar APIs? I for one have no idea if it can be made to work with the Xperia Z1/2/3's camera at all. I'd love to know! :highfive:
Hermantje said:
Today was a day of bad news. I just read this article and apparently the Lollipop update does not bring the new camera API to the Xperia Z1/2/3 series. I could cry!
Now I was wondering, since Custom ROMs can alter so much for a device, whether they can enable the camera API even though Sony doesn't. It would be awesome if there's a developer who could manage to do this - if at all possible of course. I was planning on making a video of these potential new camera controls, but I was surprised to see that Sony just didn't allow the API to be used (I don't know the technical details so correct me if I'm wrong about the actual phrasing there).
Do you have any thoughts on this? Are you a developer, and do you have any experience with this or similar APIs? I for one have no idea if it can be made to work with the Xperia Z1/2/3's camera at all. I'd love to know! :highfive:
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I'm not entirely impressed with the camera either, and can't believe we have waited this long for Sony to release the lollipop update, which not only doesn't improve the camera, but its also just 5.0.. i thought the whole delay in the lollipop update was due to the initial quirks in the 5.0 build meaning they would roll out 5.1?
At this point in the game with the competition you cannot be releasing flagships marketed as the worlds best camera which is actually very mediocre. I'm truly disappointed in Sony and will likely not be holding on to my Z3 for much longer.
As it stands, have you tried the 20mp SuperiorAuto xposed module? I have seen quite a significant improvement, if you can live with the occasional crashes...
hi guys,
i just purchased a dual sim sony Z5, model #E6683, its a chinese variant. everything is fine except for the camera interface, its not like how its suppoosed to be, there is no manual mode options or anything that sort which the Z5 should carry, if any of you can share the proper camera APK and guide me how to install it without rooting, that would be great help.
thanx a million
Screenshot what you have so. We can see
Sent from my Xperia z5 by Tapatalk
This is known. All Z5s and Z5 Duals are shipping currently with Camera 1.0 App. They have yet to update to their newest app (which they demo'd at the release). They expect it to roll out sometime in Nov 2015, if not with the android 6.0 marshmallow update.
We should let SONY know that the current Android 9 Pie is the worst lazy treatment since the SONY upgrade system.
Xperia XZ3,Xperia XZ2, XZ2 Premium, XZ2 Compact, Xperia XZ Premium, XZ1 and XZ1 Compact, XA2, XA2 Ultra and XA2 Plus, which can be upgraded to Android 9 Pie, should be displayed to tell SONY about the Android 9 Pie experience.
For details, please go to the Xperia Support Forum.
XPERIA XZ3 Discussion - Article title: SONY Bad Android 9 Pie
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We should let SONY know that the current Android 9 Pie is the worst lazy treatment since the SONY upgrade system.
Xperia XZ3,Xperia XZ2, XZ2 Premium, XZ2 Compact, Xperia XZ Premium, XZ1 and XZ1 Compact, XA2, XA2 Ultra and XA2 Plus, which can be upgraded to Android 9 Pie, should be displayed to tell SONY about the Android 9 Pie experience.
For details, please go to the Xperia Support Forum.
XPERIA XZ3 Discussion - Article title: SONY Bad Android 9 Pie
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Whats so bad about the experience? Explain yourself here, you took the time to post here.
Pie has better battery than Oreo, faster boot/smoother running, camera works without drm patch, root works on stock kernel, should I go on? Slight rotation glitch is about all ive found wrong.
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Whats so bad about the experience? Explain yourself here, you took the time to post here.
Pie has better battery than Oreo, faster boot/smoother running, camera works without drm patch, root works on stock kernel, should I go on? Slight rotation glitch is about all ive found wrong.
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Let the user wait for a long time, Pie is finally updated.
The update found that it is very different from the Android 9 Pie we know.
SONY's Android 9 Pie seems to be android oreo 8.1 experience
We lack many important features
No New-System-Navigation & Digital Wellbeing & Slice & actions
There is no change in the Setting UI.
Perhaps SONY developers should refer to what is Android 9 Pie
This is just a waste of time for the XPERIA XZ2 participating in the Android 9 Pie test.
Other complaints
1.Always on display Why not do a unified drop to all Android 9 models only XZ2 series
2.No. There is still no port Systemui with new clock (XZ Premium, XZ1, XZ1 Compact)
3.GOOGLE active marketing developers should have a dark theme
The dark theme that our sony music APP and Sony Album APP already have.
But should the apps used by Sony Phone, Sony Contacts, and Sony Mobile SupportXperia keyboards also include the dark theme option?
Beetle84 said:
Whats so bad about the experience? Explain yourself here, you took the time to post here.
Pie has better battery than Oreo, faster boot/smoother running, camera works without drm patch, root works on stock kernel, should I go on? Slight rotation glitch is about all ive found wrong.
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I agree, pie is good, in terms of technical stuff.
In terms of user experience its not smoother than oreo. Rotation isnt smooth, neither is going back and forth in apps especially whatsapp, and lil more smoothness problems.
Do I prefer oreo? Probably not, is pie alot better? Also not.
If this update is as smooth as oreo, id say yes it is a lot better.
But its not, plus we aint got recents panel like other pie running devices, no navigation bar, no change in UI, smoothness got worse, i cant seem to find a difference between HDR photo and non HDR phone in camera app, battery isnt better, there are some more glitches like some notifications get cut in half when sliding the notification bar, thats what i can remember, im sure there is more that I forgot.
Again Pie isnt bad and in some cases like the technical stuff its better than oreo, but in most cases especially the UX, its worse.
Either that or your device is super xz premium and not a normal one or some of us got bad xz premium devices from sony.
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I agree, pie is good, in terms of technical stuff.
In terms of user experience its not smoother than oreo. Rotation isnt smooth, neither is going back and forth in apps especially whatsapp, and lil more smoothness problems.
Do I prefer oreo? Probably not, is pie alot better? Also not.
If this update is as smooth as oreo, id say yes it is a lot better.
But its not, plus we aint got recents panel like other pie running devices, no navigation bar, no change in UI, smoothness got worse, i cant seem to find a difference between HDR photo and non HDR phone in camera app, battery isnt better, there are some more glitches like some notifications get cut in half when sliding the notification bar, thats what i can remember, im sure there is more that I forgot.
Again Pie isnt bad and in some cases like the technical stuff its better than oreo, but in most cases especially the UX, its worse.
Either that or your device is super xz premium and not a normal one or some of us got bad xz premium devices from sony.
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I don't understand why people are complaining, oreo had problems and after updates they we're fixed so just wait
LukeyWolf said:
I don't understand why people are complaining, oreo had problems and after updates they we're fixed so just wait
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You asked for why people think its not good i gave an answer, im pretty sure sony will do its best to deliver the best for us through future updates.
Still disappointed with the fact that we dont have android pie nav bar or recents panel...
Pie 9 - best
After I received android 9 PIE, my Sony Xz1 dual sim G8342 works more quickly, smoothly and battery saving energy.
What I like very much about PIE it is transition on diplay from one screen to another in apps or settings, power off menu, volume menu, clock on top left side.
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Whats so bad about the experience? Explain yourself here, you took the time to post here.
Pie has better battery than Oreo, faster boot/smoother running
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You are wrong, don't agree with you,because battery on pie MORE faster loses a charge, and may be in some place pie interface looks some faster then oreo, for example widget of business calendar on desktop on oreo already appeared on a desktop and in pie he load 30 sec or more....
upd: may be pie firmware only for xzp is worst, and on other new sony models pie firmware better...
On my side the battery can be used around 3 days with Pie
Yo guys! It's been a few months since the Xperia 5 II came out and still nothing on the horizon ..
Are there any developers working on a custom rom & kernel? The xda xperia forum is very quiet when it comes to this phone, it's a shame
I would love that one day we could have Lineage OS, or Resurrection Remix, Dirty Unicorn, Omnirom or even EvolutionX. Maybe it's just a dream?
The stock rom is fine but I do would like to have options
I would love to see Lineage on my Xperia 5 ii, I kind of want my XA2 back, which would now be running 18.1. But I guess we have to live with stock rom on this one At least the camera is lovely...
BoernMe said:
I would love to see Lineage on my Xperia 5 ii, I kind of want my XA2 back, which would now be running 18.1. But I guess we have to live with stock rom on this one At least the camera is lovely...
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Pixel Experience will be released soon for our Xperia 5 II, there will be at least one custom rom ^^
Home - Pixel Experience
Home - Pixel Experience
download.pixelexperience.org
flyl0 said:
Pixel Experience will be released soon for our Xperia 5 II, there will be at least one custom rom ^^
Home - Pixel Experience
Home - Pixel Experience
download.pixelexperience.org
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Well, sounds like a starter, but as Lineage enthusiast I'm only looking for a rom without Google, this sounds like the exact opposite. But I guess this one will make at least some people happy ;-)
Working on LOS here. Coming soon!
Miustone said:
Working on LOS here. Coming soon!
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That's awesome !!
I hope we do see custom roms soon. I'm still using my OP6 and I can't decide between Pizel 5/4a 5G or Xperia 5 II. Would like to go for the Xperia due to longevity but the lack development support is putting me off. If I get one, I will certainly root and remove any bloatware.
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I hope we do see custom roms soon. I'm still using my OP6 and I can't decide between Pizel 5/4a 5G or Xperia 5 II. Would like to go for the Xperia due to longevity but the lack development support is putting me off. If I get one, I will certainly root and remove any bloatware.
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Let's hope for it! The device and especially display format of the 5 ii is really nice, and I love that it is compact and fits in my pocket without problems. Lineage on this device would really give a positive vibe about a longevity.
(BTW: yesterday I installed Lineage 17.1 on my fathers ancient Z5 Compact from 2015, everything works just fine and amazingly fast, thanks to getting rid of the google stuff. Now he can use it for some additional time --> that's sustainability. Let's hope for the 5 ii to be as longevity)
Had some issues last Night, but i'm syncing a fresh 18.1 repo with xperia device trees right now. Will take some Hours but i think i can share a first Build the next Days...
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Had some issues last Night, but i'm syncing a fresh 18.1 repo with xperia device trees right now. Will take some Hours but i think i can share a first Build the next Days...
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Can't wait to try it ! But take your time to make a bug free LOS for our xperia 5II
Nizzay! said:
I hope we do see custom roms soon. I'm still using my OP6 and I can't decide between Pizel 5/4a 5G or Xperia 5 II. Would like to go for the Xperia due to longevity but the lack development support is putting me off. If I get one, I will certainly root and remove any bloatware.
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Buy a pixel 4a 5G if you want to have the choice for custom roms
Yo guys, if you're interested, an unofficial LOS build has just been released for our Xperia 5 II !
• https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/rom-unofficial-lineageos-17-1-for-xperia-5-ii.4219919/
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Yo guys, if you're interested, an unofficial LOS build has just been released for our Xperia 5 II !
• https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/rom-unofficial-lineageos-17-1-for-xperia-5-ii.4219919/
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Any chance you can test it and tell me, if the camera is still working and has the same functionalities? I'm not talking about the fancy Sony Camera app, but the simple one delivered on stock ROM. On XA2 and Z5 Compact the Lineage 17.1 Photo App is quite ok, but of cause these ones have no triple camera. And as the 5 ii is not cheap I would like to be sure, that this key feature is working properly... Or that I have the possibility to get the stock camera app working.
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Any chance you can test it and tell me, if the camera is still working and has the same functionalities? I'm not talking about the fancy Sony Camera app, but the simple one delivered on stock ROM. On XA2 and Z5 Compact the Lineage 17.1 Photo App is quite ok, but of cause these ones have no triple camera. And as the 5 ii is not cheap I would like to be sure, that this key feature is working properly... Or that I have the possibility to get the stock camera app working.
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You can ask directly to the dev, I think he must have tested the image before he released it.
I'm waiting for someone to try it too lmao cause I don't want to lose any stock features.
Anyway I'm pretty sure it will work, otherwise he would have mentioned it in the post I guess
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Had some issues last Night, but i'm syncing a fresh 18.1 repo with xperia device trees right now. Will take some Hours but i think i can share a first Build the next Days...
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Is there any update on your Lineage-Release? Unfortunately the published version from ken442266 has been discontinued and I don't want to return to stock