BAD LUCK TO ALL NON-z - Sony Xperia E3

Bad luck for all non-Z series users..... No Lollypop
http://www.xperiablog.net/2015/03/06/sony-says-no-lollipop-for-non-xperia-z-series-owners/
WTF ???????¿

imElectronica said:
Bad luck for all non-Z series users..... No Lollypop
http://www.xperiablog.net/2015/03/06/sony-says-no-lollipop-for-non-xperia-z-series-owners/
WTF ???????¿
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So what's the problem, mate?
The E3 has a fully grown up OS version. Probably will receive the 4.4 update, just like the dual-sim variant and it will be OK.
I don't understand all the hype surrounding the 5.0 version. Not even all the top-rangers from last year got the update.
They are still launching new models with Kit Kat on board.
Moving on from this point of view I've read a lot of threads regarding both official AND custom builds of 5.0 and in all these threads users are complaining about some serious memory management problems. Putting it clear the RAM management, at this moment, is worse on Lollipop than on Kit Kat. I have a friend with a LG G3, the version with 3GB RAM and after the update he also noticed that the memory management is worse.:laugh:
So my true and sincere advice is to be happy with a fully optimized OS version than unhappy with a buggy-first-cycle-of-life version of the same OS which you will probably use just the same I have a SGS4, the I9505 version with Snapdragon 600 CPU which is scheduled to receive Lollipop but I'm not in a hurry to install it. Both the I9500 (Exynos) and I9506 (Snapdragon 800) variants of the SGS4 received it already and everyone reports lots of bugs. I'm not saying that Sony is above or bellow Sammy, but the OS is the same so the problems will be the same. And if you wonder what am I doing on this thread let me just say that I bought my father an E3 as a gift So I'm keeping a close eye on it :cyclops:
So don't worry and enjoy the phone because it's a perfect mid-ranger! Cheers and all the best :highfive:

Perfect mid-ranger with only 4GB of internal storage (whilst E4 comes with double that storage at 2/3 of the price of E3 + better front camera)? At least lollilop would solve the internal storage issue to some extend.

cnagr said:
Perfect mid-ranger with only 4GB of internal storage (whilst E4 comes with double that storage at 2/3 of the price of E3 + better front camera)? At least lollilop would solve the internal storage issue to some extend.
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I dont,t think if we have ram problem lollypop will be usefull at all.as he told 3gig,s of ram had problem.
Storage is not an issue i have 7gigs of games on my sd with 1 gig free internel storage.
E4 is reallly lost everything from e3 e4 has super small datacable for charging. Fully crap.it,s like sony just reduced quality to make a low price phone. Even micromax had better phone than e4. And yellowness in display is worse thing. Just grab e3 instead of e4.
I reallly love sony for build quality. Which it lost in e4.
Don,t know why but i really think of samsung like micromax and other,s.
Sent From My Sony Xperia E3 D2212 using XDA app.

AlexVat said:
So what's the problem, mate?
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After 2 or 3 month, when 5.0 is released fully & all new apps's comparability is 5.0 or above, then what you do.....with ur 4.4.4.....No themes no apps

imElectronica said:
After 2 or 3 month, when 5.0 is released fully & all new apps's comparability is 5.0 or above, then what you do.....with ur 4.4.4.....No themes no apps
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Excuse me, but can you name at least 5 apps or games that worked on 4.0.4 Ice Cream Sandwich and don't work anymore because of the OS update? And 4.0.4 is how old by now? I quote: "Release to manufacturing: October 19, 2011". Aham! That's like 4 years ago Think you going to keep the E3 for at least 4 years? In fact let me tell you that Xposed doesn't have a stable version on 5.0 yet. And that's a main reason for a lot of people not to upgrade to 5.0.

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Excuse me, but can you...
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Every one have their own thinking Bro....all d best

So sad but is not the end!!
:crying: Guys, dont talk so fast!!!
Not necesarily we have bad luck.
Remember guys, there´s an AOSP development for mid and low range 2014 Xperia devices such as: E3, M2, T2 ultra, T3 and C3. That devices may receive lollipop through official or unofficial way after Z series.
I know you are going to say: AOSP is not a requirement for make a final and stable version. But, Why was the reason sony released an AOSP?
http://developer.sonymobile.com/kno...e/open-devices/list-of-devices-and-resources/
http://developer.sonymobile.com/201...ased-2014-xperia-devices-now-supported-video/
Even if is not lollipop for us, we can keep with kitkat, keeping on mind the highest KK stability compared with released 5.0.1 or 5.0.2 lollipop versions.
I know AOSP is bug filled, but some developers are working in that issues. Theres no CM12 stable version for Flamingo (E3) but @freexperia is working at least in LTE E3 devices.
Yesterday, Unofficial Xperia Blog reported some screenshots of Xperia C3 running something like lollipop in chinese market, but it may be fake
http://www.xperiablog.net/2015/03/0...enshots-emerge-could-it-be-landing-after-all/
And also, dont let intimidate by three or four tweets or android related blogs with the bad new. We should wait the official confirmation on Sony Xperia official blog.
BTW: if Sony really dont want update 2014 models and just update Z series and upcoming 2015 models, they will lose market quota. Sony is not good in the mobile market, forget the users and dont listen them can be a mistake for Kazuo Hirai´s company.
And here is the final comment: my next phone will be from motorola or another brand updateable, because Sony, LG, Samsung, Alcatel and others forgot low and mid range devices, thanks to the high fragmentation of the premise "Same but different"
People change its devices each two years, so, we never will get the latest version of android on any device, even if the device has infinite ram, processor and storage! Certainly the true is many people get/buy a low mid range instead a high and expensive flagship
We should support cyanogenmod or develop our android versions for stop programated obsolescence! Look, android versions rolling in the world: 2.3 4.0.X 4.1.X, 4.2.X 4.3.X 4.4X, 5.0.X. This is not fair for users!!! Android is doing bad, they should follow iOS example and keep updated even the legacy devices on all brands!!

lexiyuri said:
:crying: Guys, dont talk so fast ..
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True....Bro

Maybe there will be lollipop upgrade..
http://www.xperiablog.net/2015/03/08/sony-now-says-no-comment-on-non-xperia-z-series-lollipop-plans/

atomicr said:
Maybe there will be lollipop upgrade..
http://www.xperiablog.net/2015/03/08/sony-now-says-no-comment-on-non-xperia-z-series-lollipop-plans/
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It all depends on sony.
Sent From My Sony Xperia E3 dual using XDA app.

Lollipop 5.1 binaries for E3
http://www.androidauthority.com/sony-releases-5-1-binaries-xperia-phones-594087/

atomicr said:
Lollipop 5.1 binaries for E3
http://www.androidauthority.com/sony-releases-5-1-binaries-xperia-phones-594087/
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screen work (no resume from sleep bug), but no wifi/baseband/camera

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Sooner or Later !

Sooner or Later ! Samsung will Suffer Like Nokia if I was not wrong, Because other companies are updating their mobile phone OS very fast but Samsung is moving even slower than tortoise , If you see the update list of all phones only major Phone like S5,S4 S3 & Note 2&3 are getting updated but other phones are struck at 4.2.2 earlier Nokia also behaving like same they putting older OS in new phone for example Nokia c3 which is release in 2010 but OS is S40 which is nearly 5 years old. Just look at the Mote E Specs its beat Samsung s2 plus in all aspects expect in camera . Dear Samsung please change your attitude other wise ............
say thanks to cm
jrkraj said:
Sooner or Later ! Samsung will Suffer Like Nokia if I was not wrong, Because other companies are updating their mobile phone OS very fast but Samsung is moving even slower than tortoise , If you see the update list of all phones only major Phone like S5,S4 S3 & Note 2&3 are getting updated but other phones are struck at 4.2.2 earlier Nokia also behaving like same they putting older OS in new phone for example Nokia c3 which is release in 2010 but OS is S40 which is nearly 5 years old. Just look at the Mote E Specs its beat Samsung s2 plus in all aspects expect in camera . Dear Samsung please change your attitude other wise ............
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let's say thanks to cyanogenmod community to help our devices to update :laugh:
The higher u go..the greater u fall
Applies to all sammy also.
I think (hope) Samsung is waiting for final 4.4 update from Google.
I checked Samsung updates for many device, usually there is no for example 4.0.1 or 4.1.1 or 4.2.1 updates they are 4.1.2 or 4.2.2 , ...
I wish final KitKat would be released soon then lots of Samsung devices will be updated.
Yes Bro
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The higher u go..the greater u fall
Applies to all sammy also.
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Your are correct Bro Higher we go more chance of Survival is Less

[NEWS!] KitKat update certified by Bluetooth SIG! KK it's closer! :D

Hello everybody!
Just comment that the Bluetooth.org (SIG) group has just certified some days ago the upgrade to KitKat for our Xperia M2 (and also for E1). Therefore, Sony might launch this long awaited update during this July hehe :fingers-crossed:
On the other hand, I have spoken to Sony support's chat some hours ago for an issue of hardware, and I've also asked them if they knew what day it would be launched, but they have told me that they do not know that for sure, it will be soon, without giving details, what a pity! ..
Now we just have to wait
Source: https://www.bluetooth.org/tpg/QLI_viewQDL.cfm?qid=23476
Ooh my ...
i cant wait eheh..
When we get kitkat, i think that will be possible to move apps to SD ... right ?
Well, Kitkat for T2 Ultra is out and has the ability to move apps to SD card so we should expect it to happen to our M2
That will be nice
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EVERY SIGN NEEDED ! Petition to Sony to update Xperia L !

https://www.change.org/p/sony-xperia-l-update-to-android-4-4#invite
Here ! Please share this and don't say "They won't" !
jakubekw1997 said:
https://www.change.org/p/sony-xperia-l-update-to-android-4-4#invite
Here ! Please share this and don't say "They won't" !
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Signed :fingers-crossed::highfive:
signed
Singed i hope Sony Update My XL
They won't. People you need to understand, Sony had made the mistake of releasing too much devices (which in turn made them lose a lot of money). They also need to support these new devices despite causing them financial trouble. Their dev team would not be able to handle too much, that's why they cut support for the Xperia L and other mid-range and low-end devices for last year as well. Plus the fact that our Xperia L is an ODM device, that's why it has a lot of hardware issues no software can fix, most probably why they did not give us a 4.4 or at least 4.3 because they just can't solve these with software.
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They won't. People you need to understand, Sony had made the mistake of releasing too much devices (which in turn made them lose a lot of money). They also need to support these new devices despite causing them financial trouble. Their dev team would not be able to handle too much, that's why they cut support for the Xperia L and other mid-range and low-end devices for last year as well. Plus the fact that our Xperia L is an ODM device, that's why it has a lot of hardware issues no software can fix, most probably why they did not give us a 4.4 or at least 4.3 because they just can't solve these with software.
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make sense. that's is why at the time Xperia L for AOSP KitKat released by Sony, is just a "death flag" for us to get 4.4 or even 4.3.
itsjustJOH said:
They won't. People you need to understand, Sony had made the mistake of releasing too much devices (which in turn made them lose a lot of money). They also need to support these new devices despite causing them financial trouble. Their dev team would not be able to handle too much, that's why they cut support for the Xperia L and other mid-range and low-end devices for last year as well. Plus the fact that our Xperia L is an ODM device, that's why it has a lot of hardware issues no software can fix, most probably why they did not give us a 4.4 or at least 4.3 because they just can't solve these with software.
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I said , DON'T SAY THEY WON'T !!!
Stop denying the fact that this phone is discontinued. There's no Mid/Low end sony phone that have more than 2 android upgrades
Xperia L 4.1 > 4.2
Xperia M 4.1 > 4.3
Xperia M2 4.3 > 4.4
Xperia J 4.0 > 4.1
And so on
Admit it, THEY WON'T Do anything, or care about a small petition
TakuyaZ said:
Stop denying the fact that this phone is discontinued. There's no Mid/Low end sony phone that have more than 2 android upgrades
Xperia L 4.1 > 4.2
Xperia M 4.1 > 4.3
Xperia M2 4.3 > 4.4
Xperia J 4.0 > 4.1
And so on
Admit it, THEY WON'T Do anything, or care about a small petition
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Dont forget M Dual it became 4.2.2 and 4.3 to and started with android 4.1.2 so it had 2 Software updates
XperiaAwesome2000 said:
Dont forget M Dual it became 4.2.2 and 4.3 to and started with android 4.1.2 so it had 2 Software updates
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M dual have no 4.1.2, it came with 4.2.2 out of the box
Hate to be this guy to give you this "truth" but I don't see Sony doing anything really to update Xperia L at all.
All your efforts would not suffice to change their minds.
I remember doing that for another device and regardless of how big our community grew in efforts to persuade Sony to give us another update but it didn't happen.
Sony has a very weird system of updating devices and there's no real thought given and usually their promises of updating for a year aren't kept either. They would simply stop " updates of a mid ranger" while update an older low end device with half the ram. And if asked why you can't update the device, they'd just say that the mid ranger wasn't good enough to run the new OS due to its limited memory.
And that's it. In recent year Sony is bracing for more losses than previously expected due to selling lesser mid range and low end phones. One of the factor being, very little and slow updates.
Sony needs to learn from Motorola which is updating its phones to lollipop which are not just old but also run on 512 mb ram.
I wish you all the best and I hope that I'm proved wrong by Sony but I don't see that happening at all.
I won't sign because simply they won't..our device is discontinued.. So no matter what we do..nothing will happen
Last year we have made a petition to update our phone to kitkat or jellybean 4.3 (Sony didn't announce that our xl is discontinued that time) but Sony didn't do anything.. And now you want them to respond to us after they have announced that our xl is discontinued?? Oh please
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No use
Many phones have been discountinued
For eg - xperia s with 4.1 last update

Xperia E4

http://blogs.sonymobile.com/press_release/unlock-entertainment-with-new-xperia-e4/?rl=global-en Xperia E3's successor just got relased. It features a Mediash... Mediatek MT6582, with 5" qHD display, 8GB of storage ,No LTE,no NFC, no Omnibalance design and 2300Mah battery. Also Android Lollipop preinstalled
Our E3 is much better :3
RSXtm said:
http://blogs.sonymobile.com/press_release/unlock-entertainment-with-new-xperia-e4/?rl=global-en Xperia E3's successor just got relased. It features a Mediash... Mediatek MT6582, with 5" qHD display, 8GB of storage ,No LTE,no NFC, no Omnibalance design and 2300Mah battery. Also Android Lollipop preinstalled
Our E3 is much better :3
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Everything that has Qualcomm is much better that this crap.
With Mediatek you can't expect unofficial nor even official updates.
RSXtm said:
http://blogs.sonymobile.com/press_release/unlock-entertainment-with-new-xperia-e4/?rl=global-en Xperia E3's successor just got relased. It features a Mediash... Mediatek MT6582, with 5" qHD display, 8GB of storage ,No LTE,no NFC, no Omnibalance design and 2300Mah battery. Also Android Lollipop preinstalled
Our E3 is much better :3
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I'm very pleased with my Xperia E3 D2203. The battery lasts 2 days of use. So yeah! Hope that Android L comes in this year xD
ViVa[DOUD] said:
I'm very pleased with my Xperia E3 D2203. The battery lasts 2 days of use. So yeah! Hope that Android L comes in this year xD
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Actually this device has everything. More expensive phones aren't "smarter", they have just, you know, more power.
Only internal storage sucks, 8 GB would be enough.
Lollipop?? Its kitkat
Vynikal said:
Actually this device has everything. More expensive phones aren't "smarter", they have just, you know, more power.
Only internal storage sucks, 8 GB would be enough.
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E4 is worse than E3 it only give us 0.1 ghz faster cpu for buying crappy mediatek cpu
only good thing in it was 8gb memory and lollypop. if i have to choice a phone i will choice E3 not E4 cuz it has Mediatek cpu.
Guys, say sayonara to lollipop
Well well well guys, we have now a new entry level flagship called Xperia E4 (E3 succesor) . I know that MediaTek chipset are crappy and low power proccesors when you compare it with Qualcomm, please dont get dissapointed or sad about our little E3 D22XX. We must focus on our devices in order to standing out among others.
So, at this point i have made a thinking about the situation: probably we´re not going to get a taste sweet of lollipop. Enjoy CM12! with our powerful E3 22XX
See the new rotten kid on the block
More from the new kid on the block
Hi guys, here´s a video from our russian friends showing us the Xperia E4 (isnt a unboxing) and looks very reliable and real. I think the guys are a little bit disappointed because is mediatek (i heard that when they talk)
As you can see even the Xperia E4 has android 4.4 kitkat inside, there´s no lollipop or material design around.
And here we have both devices, head to head, the fight between E3 and E4 in the official sony publicitary spots
lexiyuri said:
Hi guys, here´s a video from our russian friends showing us the Xperia E4 (isnt a unboxing) and looks very reliable and real. I think the guys are a little bit disappointed because is mediatek (i heard that when they talk)
As you can see even the Xperia E4 has android 4.4 kitkat inside, there´s no lollipop or material design around.
And here we have both devices, head to head, the fight between E3 and E4 in the official sony publicitary spots
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It has just two things better in software side:
Grey statusbar and navbar in Sony apps (E3 is the only Xperia that has black navbar and statusbar in sony apps)
Z3 camera, it has improved speed and quality image
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Also Android Lollipop preinstalled
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However, the phone will have preinstalled Android Kitkat 4.4.4. I find that it does not pay to change trains at him because of the stronger batteries or Ultra mode Stamina
Well, today we received another slap in the face: Xperia E4g LTE with dual Sim and single Sim support is going to be released in April 2015. E4g is just a little bit tiny lower compared with E4 gsm. theres Nothing of improvements because E4g remains with mediatek and Mali instead of Qualcomm and adreno.
In fact E4 and E4g are new low end devices from Sony. its obvious for everyone that economic crisis made Sony reduce quality in new low end devices. that risk chess movement may not keep the Faith in Sony old customers but can invite new users to enjoy the brand.
by the way, I think E3 is better than E4g and E4 because we have everything we need in a solid device(I mean NFC, LTE and good chip set). we dont need dual sim, we only need a better front facing camera and 4 GB more of internal memory, lollipop and that's it!!!.
an enhanced E3 would be a better idea
Root E4 Dual Sim (E2115)
Hello, i had unllock bootloader of this phone (model E2115), but i can not root it.
Does anyone know how ?
Thanks
I bought one yesterday on the local vendor and I can say right away, it's horrible. I can't believe Sony launched this crap as a mid level smartphone. I had a Mlais Mx28+ that was more "machine" than this E4.
At first impression the THICK design was what made me hate it right away.
137 x 74.6 x 10.5 mm (5.39 x 2.94 x 0.41 in).
When I've opened the back cover, surprise surprise, No removable Battery...
For a brand that stands out as a green loving enviromental group, this option makes us wonder... Who are you? Apple?
On the rest part it's all the same as the phone I had. But mine costed only €79...
Here's a thought. Ask what users want in a phone, compromise it the best you can and try not to think just about profit.
I'm going to turn this back.
bravesoul said:
I bought one yesterday on the local vendor and I can say right away, it's horrible. I can't believe Sony launched this crap as a mid level smartphone. I had a Mlais Mx28+ that was more "machine" than this E4.
At first impression the THICK design was what made me hate it right away.
137 x 74.6 x 10.5 mm (5.39 x 2.94 x 0.41 in).
When I've opened the back cover, surprise surprise, No removable Battery...
For a brand that stands out as a green loving enviromental group, this option makes us wonder... Who are you? Apple?
On the rest part it's all the same as the phone I had. But mine costed only €79...
Here's a thought. Ask what users want in a phone, compromise it the best you can and try not to think just about profit.
I'm going to turn this back.
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E4 is really crap that has sony logo on it everyone should buy E3 instead of E4.
Sent From My Sony Xperia E3 dual using XDA app.
km211121 said:
Hello, i had unllock bootloader of this phone (model E2115), but i can not root it.
Does anyone know how ?
Thanks
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Hi! Can you tell how you unblocked bootloader? Thanks!
dredwork said:
Hi! Can you tell how you unblocked bootloader? Thanks!
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Hello,
go to that site :
http://developer.sonymobile.com/unlockbootloader/
and select from the List "Sony Xperia E3" because E4 is not in the list, but is working. Follow the procedure step by step.
My advice is, DON'T Unlock your bootloader yet, because you will cannot update the firmware after that. Wait o few months to get some updates and then Unlock.
Although, there is a tool and a procedure to get back to a stock ROM and Relock the bootloader, but is not working for E4, because E4 is not fully supported yet.
Root xperia e4.
For root xperia e4 use kingo Root, it works with me.
so you guys are saying xperia E3 is a better phone than xperia e4?
twrp for xperia e4g
Hello sir,
Can any one guide how to install twrp in xperia e4g dual
Thanks in advance
Sudhakarmamilla
Is it really that bad ?
I might get it soon.
Or maybe E3, but i like E4 much more.

Android Go for Xperia L

How about Android Go based ROM for Xperia L ?
I saw this : https://www.xda-developers.com/android-go-old-android-8-1-oreo/
https://review.lineageos.org/#/q/"Android+Go"
Adrian DC is working on Xperia Devices.
Can we get for taoshan as well ? What say developers?
I think Go will e perfect for our low end device and actually a better solution for Xperia L than normal android distribution. Though the downside is less number of app. But that will increase.
yeah i am having the same idea
it would be awesome if taoshan develope and android go version for xperia l
It would be really nice.
We'll get more speed and storage space.
But I don't think that it will come soon for our Xperia
Let's wait and hope for the best
It can happen only corpish is interested
anupam_on said:
It can happen only corpish is interested
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Please developers our Xperia L needs this room.
Even after stable roms my phone is heating like iron Box
Low performance. Battery drains fast. And low storage problems.
Please make a go edition Rom.
Meanwhile lineageOS started with Oreo : https://www.xda-developers.com/lineageos-15-android-oreo-officially-announced/
And the Oreo as arrived.
Thanks @corphish

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