We should let SONY know that the current Android 9 Pie is the worst lazy treatment since the SONY upgrade system.
Xperia XZ3,Xperia XZ2, XZ2 Premium, XZ2 Compact, Xperia XZ Premium, XZ1 and XZ1 Compact, XA2, XA2 Ultra and XA2 Plus, which can be upgraded to Android 9 Pie, should be displayed to tell SONY about the Android 9 Pie experience.
For details, please go to the Xperia Support Forum.
XPERIA XZ3 Discussion - Article title: SONY Bad Android 9 Pie
xperken1402 said:
We should let SONY know that the current Android 9 Pie is the worst lazy treatment since the SONY upgrade system.
Xperia XZ3,Xperia XZ2, XZ2 Premium, XZ2 Compact, Xperia XZ Premium, XZ1 and XZ1 Compact, XA2, XA2 Ultra and XA2 Plus, which can be upgraded to Android 9 Pie, should be displayed to tell SONY about the Android 9 Pie experience.
For details, please go to the Xperia Support Forum.
XPERIA XZ3 Discussion - Article title: SONY Bad Android 9 Pie
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Whats so bad about the experience? Explain yourself here, you took the time to post here.
Pie has better battery than Oreo, faster boot/smoother running, camera works without drm patch, root works on stock kernel, should I go on? Slight rotation glitch is about all ive found wrong.
Beetle84 said:
Whats so bad about the experience? Explain yourself here, you took the time to post here.
Pie has better battery than Oreo, faster boot/smoother running, camera works without drm patch, root works on stock kernel, should I go on? Slight rotation glitch is about all ive found wrong.
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Let the user wait for a long time, Pie is finally updated.
The update found that it is very different from the Android 9 Pie we know.
SONY's Android 9 Pie seems to be android oreo 8.1 experience
We lack many important features
No New-System-Navigation & Digital Wellbeing & Slice & actions
There is no change in the Setting UI.
Perhaps SONY developers should refer to what is Android 9 Pie
This is just a waste of time for the XPERIA XZ2 participating in the Android 9 Pie test.
Other complaints
1.Always on display Why not do a unified drop to all Android 9 models only XZ2 series
2.No. There is still no port Systemui with new clock (XZ Premium, XZ1, XZ1 Compact)
3.GOOGLE active marketing developers should have a dark theme
The dark theme that our sony music APP and Sony Album APP already have.
But should the apps used by Sony Phone, Sony Contacts, and Sony Mobile SupportXperia keyboards also include the dark theme option?
Beetle84 said:
Whats so bad about the experience? Explain yourself here, you took the time to post here.
Pie has better battery than Oreo, faster boot/smoother running, camera works without drm patch, root works on stock kernel, should I go on? Slight rotation glitch is about all ive found wrong.
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I agree, pie is good, in terms of technical stuff.
In terms of user experience its not smoother than oreo. Rotation isnt smooth, neither is going back and forth in apps especially whatsapp, and lil more smoothness problems.
Do I prefer oreo? Probably not, is pie alot better? Also not.
If this update is as smooth as oreo, id say yes it is a lot better.
But its not, plus we aint got recents panel like other pie running devices, no navigation bar, no change in UI, smoothness got worse, i cant seem to find a difference between HDR photo and non HDR phone in camera app, battery isnt better, there are some more glitches like some notifications get cut in half when sliding the notification bar, thats what i can remember, im sure there is more that I forgot.
Again Pie isnt bad and in some cases like the technical stuff its better than oreo, but in most cases especially the UX, its worse.
Either that or your device is super xz premium and not a normal one or some of us got bad xz premium devices from sony.
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I agree, pie is good, in terms of technical stuff.
In terms of user experience its not smoother than oreo. Rotation isnt smooth, neither is going back and forth in apps especially whatsapp, and lil more smoothness problems.
Do I prefer oreo? Probably not, is pie alot better? Also not.
If this update is as smooth as oreo, id say yes it is a lot better.
But its not, plus we aint got recents panel like other pie running devices, no navigation bar, no change in UI, smoothness got worse, i cant seem to find a difference between HDR photo and non HDR phone in camera app, battery isnt better, there are some more glitches like some notifications get cut in half when sliding the notification bar, thats what i can remember, im sure there is more that I forgot.
Again Pie isnt bad and in some cases like the technical stuff its better than oreo, but in most cases especially the UX, its worse.
Either that or your device is super xz premium and not a normal one or some of us got bad xz premium devices from sony.
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I don't understand why people are complaining, oreo had problems and after updates they we're fixed so just wait
LukeyWolf said:
I don't understand why people are complaining, oreo had problems and after updates they we're fixed so just wait
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You asked for why people think its not good i gave an answer, im pretty sure sony will do its best to deliver the best for us through future updates.
Still disappointed with the fact that we dont have android pie nav bar or recents panel...
Pie 9 - best
After I received android 9 PIE, my Sony Xz1 dual sim G8342 works more quickly, smoothly and battery saving energy.
What I like very much about PIE it is transition on diplay from one screen to another in apps or settings, power off menu, volume menu, clock on top left side.
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Whats so bad about the experience? Explain yourself here, you took the time to post here.
Pie has better battery than Oreo, faster boot/smoother running
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You are wrong, don't agree with you,because battery on pie MORE faster loses a charge, and may be in some place pie interface looks some faster then oreo, for example widget of business calendar on desktop on oreo already appeared on a desktop and in pie he load 30 sec or more....
upd: may be pie firmware only for xzp is worst, and on other new sony models pie firmware better...
On my side the battery can be used around 3 days with Pie
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Today was a day of bad news. I just read this article and apparently the Lollipop update does not bring the new camera API to the Xperia Z1/2/3 series. I could cry!
Now I was wondering, since Custom ROMs can alter so much for a device, whether they can enable the camera API even though Sony doesn't. It would be awesome if there's a developer who could manage to do this - if at all possible of course. I was planning on making a video of these potential new camera controls, but I was surprised to see that Sony just didn't allow the API to be used (I don't know the technical details so correct me if I'm wrong about the actual phrasing there).
Do you have any thoughts on this? Are you a developer, and do you have any experience with this or similar APIs? I for one have no idea if it can be made to work with the Xperia Z1/2/3's camera at all. I'd love to know! :highfive:
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Today was a day of bad news. I just read this article and apparently the Lollipop update does not bring the new camera API to the Xperia Z1/2/3 series. I could cry!
Now I was wondering, since Custom ROMs can alter so much for a device, whether they can enable the camera API even though Sony doesn't. It would be awesome if there's a developer who could manage to do this - if at all possible of course. I was planning on making a video of these potential new camera controls, but I was surprised to see that Sony just didn't allow the API to be used (I don't know the technical details so correct me if I'm wrong about the actual phrasing there).
Do you have any thoughts on this? Are you a developer, and do you have any experience with this or similar APIs? I for one have no idea if it can be made to work with the Xperia Z1/2/3's camera at all. I'd love to know! :highfive:
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I'm not entirely impressed with the camera either, and can't believe we have waited this long for Sony to release the lollipop update, which not only doesn't improve the camera, but its also just 5.0.. i thought the whole delay in the lollipop update was due to the initial quirks in the 5.0 build meaning they would roll out 5.1?
At this point in the game with the competition you cannot be releasing flagships marketed as the worlds best camera which is actually very mediocre. I'm truly disappointed in Sony and will likely not be holding on to my Z3 for much longer.
As it stands, have you tried the 20mp SuperiorAuto xposed module? I have seen quite a significant improvement, if you can live with the occasional crashes...
hi guys,
i just purchased a dual sim sony Z5, model #E6683, its a chinese variant. everything is fine except for the camera interface, its not like how its suppoosed to be, there is no manual mode options or anything that sort which the Z5 should carry, if any of you can share the proper camera APK and guide me how to install it without rooting, that would be great help.
thanx a million
Screenshot what you have so. We can see
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This is known. All Z5s and Z5 Duals are shipping currently with Camera 1.0 App. They have yet to update to their newest app (which they demo'd at the release). They expect it to roll out sometime in Nov 2015, if not with the android 6.0 marshmallow update.
Unfortunately Sony has disappointed us as usual and shared its official list with the devices that will be updated to Android 8.0 and our device is not included.. The update starts from Xperia X and higher [emoji115]
• Xperia X
• Xperia X Performance
• Xperia XZ
• Xperia XZ Premium
• Xperia XZs
• Xperia XA1
• Xperia XA1 Ultra
• Xperia XA1 Ultra Plus
• Xperia Touch
Source : XB
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We wait for third party ROM.
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That's bad. It should be updated... :'(
Nevermind, LineageOS & crDroid will (and Carbonrom, AOSP, etc..). Honestly, since we can install most of the Sony apps on these roms, there are not much advantages to use stock roms, but there are many advantages to use the former...!!
Yesterday I asked on the Sony Chat if there is an update next Nougat 7.1.1 for the Xperia Z5 and they said me yes.
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Yesterday I asked on the Sony Chat if there is an update next Nougat 7.1.1 for the Xperia Z5 and they said me yes.
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They lie
Byt XA and XA ultra has worse specs Than the Z5 they even have only 2gb of ram and 720p screens
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Byt XA and XA ultra has worse specs Than the Z5 they even have only 2gb of ram and 720p screens
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XA and XA ultra will not get Oreo, check the list.
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Unfortunately Sony has disappointed us as usual and shared its official list with the devices that will be updated to Android 8.0 and our device is not included.. The update starts from Xperia X and higher [emoji115]
• Xperia X
• Xperia X Performance
• Xperia XZ
• Xperia XZ Premium
• Xperia XZs
• Xperia XA1
• Xperia XA1 Ultra
• Xperia XA1 Ultra Plus
• Xperia Touch
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It's not official yet.
It doesnt matter if our z5 is capable of getting Oreo update or not.
Sony has 24 months or how much to support their devices.
I strongly believed that we were going to get Oreo update, as you all know Z5 has no problems whatsoever, and believed sony will make exception and support to our device, but i was wrong.
Oreo update with the XZ1 ui would be really really refreshing for our device.
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I guess it's not uet final. The announcement was for devices that will be updated first.
But no official announcement that Z5 update will stop. Let's wait and see..
Sony is very generous...hehehe
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It doesnt matter if our z5 is capable of getting Oreo update or not.
Sony has 24 months or how much to support their devices.
I strongly believed that we were going to get Oreo update, as you all know Z5 has no problems whatsoever, and believed sony will make exception and support to our device, but i was wrong.
Oreo update with the XZ1 ui would be really really refreshing for our device.
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correct :/
Are there any update?
Is it sure in your opinion that Z5 will not receive oreo?
farrokh19 said:
Are there any update?
Is it sure in your opinion that Z5 will not receive oreo?
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Z5 might receive Oreo, just not from Sony.
It might well still be a good thing tho.
The Z5 has been out for 2 years, received 3 major OS updates (5.1.1 to 7.1.1) and timely security patches.
Honestly, I prefer well-built and stable updates to poorly-built and full of bugs ones.
Just look at how we received Nougat, the 32.3.A.2.33 update was a joke (they tried to push it out as soon as possible).
Even now the 32.4.A.0.160 (most stable of Nougat) is nowhere near as stable as 5.11 Marshmallow.
So yeah, it might be a good thing not to have half-heartedly developed builts (the XZ line is way more popular to non-Sony fans btw)
Also, we have some really devoted and dedicated developers for our device (kudos!), who revise their codes every single day and fill their ROMs with lastest Google security patches.
Oreo will come to the Z5 for sure, not just from Sony.
http://www.phonandroid.com/android-o-oreo-smartphones-compatibles.html
look this link ...
Time to buy new phone. circle of Z5's life has come to an end
parydia said:
http://www.phonandroid.com/android-o-oreo-smartphones-compatibles.html
look this link ...
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Xperia L1, XA and E5, too? Yeah, sure. Hell would rather freeze over. It's most likely a clickbait article, that's all it is.
humm, probabely.. you're right
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Xperia L1, XA and E5, too? Yeah, sure. Hell would rather freeze over. It's most likely a clickbait article, that's all it is.
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Nothing surprising: after 2 years vendors usually stop updating firmwares. Most of Z5 line owners already knew that Nougat would have been the last major release.
Now there's space for AOSP.
Hey guys,
I'm running the XZ Premium and I'm absolutely loving this device.
Since it's 2 years anniversary is just around the corner I have some question and maybe long time Sony fans and modders can answer me.
WIll we get Android 10? I'm interested in photography and getting RAW/30 sec exposure from Xperia 1 with/without the Android 10.
Has anyone tried the AOSP ROM on his XZP? Benefits? Downsides? What is working and what not? Does it have the full camera2 api compatibility? Is it expected to get AOSP 10 if we don't get the official update?
Is the DRM backup expected in the foreseeable future?
Yo guys! It's been a few months since the Xperia 5 II came out and still nothing on the horizon ..
Are there any developers working on a custom rom & kernel? The xda xperia forum is very quiet when it comes to this phone, it's a shame
I would love that one day we could have Lineage OS, or Resurrection Remix, Dirty Unicorn, Omnirom or even EvolutionX. Maybe it's just a dream?
The stock rom is fine but I do would like to have options
I would love to see Lineage on my Xperia 5 ii, I kind of want my XA2 back, which would now be running 18.1. But I guess we have to live with stock rom on this one At least the camera is lovely...
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I would love to see Lineage on my Xperia 5 ii, I kind of want my XA2 back, which would now be running 18.1. But I guess we have to live with stock rom on this one At least the camera is lovely...
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Pixel Experience will be released soon for our Xperia 5 II, there will be at least one custom rom ^^
Home - Pixel Experience
Home - Pixel Experience
download.pixelexperience.org
flyl0 said:
Pixel Experience will be released soon for our Xperia 5 II, there will be at least one custom rom ^^
Home - Pixel Experience
Home - Pixel Experience
download.pixelexperience.org
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Well, sounds like a starter, but as Lineage enthusiast I'm only looking for a rom without Google, this sounds like the exact opposite. But I guess this one will make at least some people happy ;-)
Working on LOS here. Coming soon!
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Working on LOS here. Coming soon!
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That's awesome !!
I hope we do see custom roms soon. I'm still using my OP6 and I can't decide between Pizel 5/4a 5G or Xperia 5 II. Would like to go for the Xperia due to longevity but the lack development support is putting me off. If I get one, I will certainly root and remove any bloatware.
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I hope we do see custom roms soon. I'm still using my OP6 and I can't decide between Pizel 5/4a 5G or Xperia 5 II. Would like to go for the Xperia due to longevity but the lack development support is putting me off. If I get one, I will certainly root and remove any bloatware.
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Let's hope for it! The device and especially display format of the 5 ii is really nice, and I love that it is compact and fits in my pocket without problems. Lineage on this device would really give a positive vibe about a longevity.
(BTW: yesterday I installed Lineage 17.1 on my fathers ancient Z5 Compact from 2015, everything works just fine and amazingly fast, thanks to getting rid of the google stuff. Now he can use it for some additional time --> that's sustainability. Let's hope for the 5 ii to be as longevity)
Had some issues last Night, but i'm syncing a fresh 18.1 repo with xperia device trees right now. Will take some Hours but i think i can share a first Build the next Days...
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Had some issues last Night, but i'm syncing a fresh 18.1 repo with xperia device trees right now. Will take some Hours but i think i can share a first Build the next Days...
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Can't wait to try it ! But take your time to make a bug free LOS for our xperia 5II
Nizzay! said:
I hope we do see custom roms soon. I'm still using my OP6 and I can't decide between Pizel 5/4a 5G or Xperia 5 II. Would like to go for the Xperia due to longevity but the lack development support is putting me off. If I get one, I will certainly root and remove any bloatware.
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Buy a pixel 4a 5G if you want to have the choice for custom roms
Yo guys, if you're interested, an unofficial LOS build has just been released for our Xperia 5 II !
• https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/rom-unofficial-lineageos-17-1-for-xperia-5-ii.4219919/
flyl0 said:
Yo guys, if you're interested, an unofficial LOS build has just been released for our Xperia 5 II !
• https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/rom-unofficial-lineageos-17-1-for-xperia-5-ii.4219919/
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Any chance you can test it and tell me, if the camera is still working and has the same functionalities? I'm not talking about the fancy Sony Camera app, but the simple one delivered on stock ROM. On XA2 and Z5 Compact the Lineage 17.1 Photo App is quite ok, but of cause these ones have no triple camera. And as the 5 ii is not cheap I would like to be sure, that this key feature is working properly... Or that I have the possibility to get the stock camera app working.
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Any chance you can test it and tell me, if the camera is still working and has the same functionalities? I'm not talking about the fancy Sony Camera app, but the simple one delivered on stock ROM. On XA2 and Z5 Compact the Lineage 17.1 Photo App is quite ok, but of cause these ones have no triple camera. And as the 5 ii is not cheap I would like to be sure, that this key feature is working properly... Or that I have the possibility to get the stock camera app working.
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You can ask directly to the dev, I think he must have tested the image before he released it.
I'm waiting for someone to try it too lmao cause I don't want to lose any stock features.
Anyway I'm pretty sure it will work, otherwise he would have mentioned it in the post I guess
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Had some issues last Night, but i'm syncing a fresh 18.1 repo with xperia device trees right now. Will take some Hours but i think i can share a first Build the next Days...
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Is there any update on your Lineage-Release? Unfortunately the published version from ken442266 has been discontinued and I don't want to return to stock