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Hi,
i just wondered about the Touch Pro's performance since it has more memory or isn't it significant enough?
Can you run PS-games smoothly?
What about SNES/GBA-games?
And with a keyboard it should be more fun to play with.
But i have heard about problems about it.
If you slide the keyboard out it automatically switches to parnoma-mode and you can't even start your programmes....
Also one further question, what do you think?
Iphone3G vs. Touch Pro
On which device will the games run more smoothly?
I have watched some youtube-vids of some ps-games on the Iphone, but it was just horribly slow.
Well considering the hardware , CPU:624mhz and a gpu, i just can't imagine that it will run better on the Pro, or?
The iPhone CPU is underclocked by a fair amount to conserve battery power.
What, really?
Even with applications on?
And what about the HTC Touch Pro, ist it also underclocked?
I have read something like about 25-30fps, and what i have watched on Youtube with Iphone, it was never 25fps.
SNES/GBA-games run fairly well on the HTC Touch pro, but still a bit slowish.
Most of the Playstation roms i tried crashed, but the few that did work also are slow.
But 25-30fps? no way - not even close. where have you read that?
I have the feeling that the 640x480 resolution sucks the performance out of a lot of games, compared to a 400mhz 320x240 device.
Also the hardware buttons are - although stylish - complete crap for playing games, so you have to use the on-screen controls or us the slide-out keyboard.
Clearly, the Touch Pro is not a gaming device
I have read it in the Diamond forum.
Can't you lower the resolution?
Hm, Perhaps i should get the Omnia with its low resolution^^
But which one has the better GPU?
I mean, all of the three have dedicated GPUs.
It's a pity because it is "only" a problem of the software (emulator).
I mean with PSP, you can run PS/SNES/GBA-games.
Has anyone tried Enigmo with the T PRO?
It's a 3D accelerated game my friend showed me on his Dell Axiom v50
Meh.
I don't wanna buy an almost 1000$ now.
Just the emulators aren't good enough.
I will buy cheap and good mobile phone and a PSP.
I thought i could get everything in one device....
Hm, Perhaps i should get the Omnia with its low resolution^^.
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With the Omnia you will definetively have better performance (lower resolution, faster cpu).
But which one has the better GPU?
I mean, all of the three have dedicated GPUs.
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That doesn't matter for emulation, they are not using it!
It's a pity because it is "only" a problem of the software (emulator).
I mean with PSP, you can run PS/SNES/GBA-games.
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It's always a great difference, if you program for a specific hardware or for an operating system. e.g. console - pc
So, how hard would it be to rewrite a current emulator to utilize a gpu? Specifically the SNES emulators, it looks like they haven't been touched in ages and they have always been generally slow.
There is a Snes emulator that uses the Diamond GPU...
there is? do you have a link/name of the emulator?
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There is a Snes emulator that uses the Diamond GPU...
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It's just not fair to say that and not tell us what that emulator is, LOL.
I've been a little disappointed in the Touch Pro's performance with emulators - but I kind of expected that. VGA screens are very slow for emulation, though they do make games that aren't even designed for that resolution more stunning. IE - Contra for the NES looks better on my Touch Pro than my 6700 (QVGA).
However, nes on smartgear is nearly fullspeed (disappointing that it's not . . .), Turbographics is also close to fullspeed, but occasionally has jittery play. Genesis on picodrive is smooth, but not 100% speed - occasional slowdowns. CPS1 & 2 games on Finalburn are very smooth, but again - just a little too slow. I haven't gotten neo geo games to work at all for some reason.
I'd originally wanted to connect my phone to a tv and play from my couch, but I think performance would be completely too slow.
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There is a Snes emulator that uses the Diamond GPU...
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Anyone know what this emulator is? Does it exist?
I can´t remember the name but it uses open gles which should be supported because Call of Duty Open Gles version runs hw accelerated.
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It's just not fair to say that and not tell us what that emulator is, LOL.
I've been a little disappointed in the Touch Pro's performance with emulators - but I kind of expected that. VGA screens are very slow for emulation, though they do make games that aren't even designed for that resolution more stunning. IE - Contra for the NES looks better on my Touch Pro than my 6700 (QVGA).
However, nes on smartgear is nearly fullspeed (disappointing that it's not . . .), Turbographics is also close to fullspeed, but occasionally has jittery play. Genesis on picodrive is smooth, but not 100% speed - occasional slowdowns. CPS1 & 2 games on Finalburn are very smooth, but again - just a little too slow. I haven't gotten neo geo games to work at all for some reason.
I'd originally wanted to connect my phone to a tv and play from my couch, but I think performance would be completely too slow.
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I got metal slug to work and it runs very well. Are they not showing up or just not running? Ghost and goblins runs smooth too.
P.S. what emulator are u using for nes?
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VGA screens are very slow for emulation, though they do make games that aren't even designed for that resolution more stunning
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Why do you guys always link VGA to slow? So wrong...
Dell Axim x51v has an VGA screen. Performance? Google it. And it's a PPC from 2005.
Anyway, it would be nice if someone, who played a bit with emulators, will construct a list with TP-compatible emulators.
I haven't been able to get a cache to build. I'm trying again now, so hopefully I can get even ONE neo geo game to load, LOL.
*edit: I was able to get neo geo roms to run. I don't think a cache will build with kfortouchpro running in the background. The cache builds very fast after that. Unfortunately, performance is a little sluggish with sound enabled.
For NES it's Smartgear. I payed for it (I think $10), since it has the distinction of being by far the best TG16 emulator for PPC. It also emulates gb, sms, and genesis without all sound features. Also it had been reported to work best on VGA devices.
If anyone knows the name of the SNES emulator - I know a lot of us would appreciate knowing. SNES has always been sluggish, even on faster QVGA machines.
I was wondering if remapping programs make any difference in being able to map buttons for emulators such as PocketCultMAME and pocketgnuboy. I would really like to be able to play games in portrait mode rather than in landscape. Has anyone got either of these emulators to work on the Fuze in portrait mode?
I have no prob playing gba/neogeo/snes with keyboard using kfortouchpro.
For gba, I get near-30 on some games (super robot wars, for example) while unplayable sub-5fps on others (need for speed).
Neogeo is consistently around or above 20fps (mostly action/platform, and things like marvel vs capcom work too).
Genesis works around that fps, although not the fastest.
Snes is a different story. It's much slower, but I found final fantasy 6 to be playable with some adjustments to frame skip. All that is without sound, btw.
I have gotten a TF101 to test it out as a supplementary mobile client.
We are running Citrix and I have a desktop published throug Citrix Receiver. I have found keyboard and mouse that works with this wonderful machine but I want to have an external display also.
But I find the HDMI support quite bad. The content fills more than the TV Screen and I cannot change the screen resolution. I would like to have a larger screen resolution on the external display but cannot find any way to do this.
I have a LG Optimus 3D phone and on that I can adjust a lot of options on the HDMI port so it should be possible.
One snag: I am testing out this to be used in large scale for hundreds and eventually thousands of users so this needs to be working on completely stock operating system.
Maybe the Asus HDMI to VGA Adaptor is something to think about?
http://www.asus.com/Peripherals_Accessories/Eee_Pad_Accessories/Mini_HDMI_to_VGA_Cable/
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Maybe the Asus HDMI to VGA Adaptor is something to think about?
http://www.asus.com/Peripherals_Accessories/Eee_Pad_Accessories/Mini_HDMI_to_VGA_Cable/
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Ok. I got this one and it almost fills my need. I need to get a higher screen resolution on the external display. 1280x720 is way to small for a permanent workstation. At least with the tools I use.
Maybe I just have to wait for ICS to get this working?
Are you trying HDMI on a TV or a monitor? If a TV does it look washed out and a little zoomed in? TV's have some over scan options that really mess with the signal from PCs. Look around the menu options of the TV and see if you can turn it off, alot of em can't tho. Just google HDMI PC overscan and you'll get a better picutre of what I'm talking about.
For res I don't think it can do better than 720 and I've never seen any options for it. I'd call up Asus if your going to be making a decision that could mean eventually thousands of sales for them.
Also don't forget that they said they're launching the Windows 8 Transformer this year. That should suit your needs beautifully.
How are you accessing your Citrix Desktop? Using the Receiver? Or is there another app specifically for Citrix Desktop access?
EDIT: Never mind, the VDI i was trying to access was taken down recently by the systems team. Do'h. Time to build a server.
Me personally I've been using the citrix beta app, seems to work better.
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Are you trying HDMI on a TV or a monitor? If a TV does it look washed out and a little zoomed in? TV's have some over scan options that really mess with the signal from PCs. Look around the menu options of the TV and see if you can turn it off, alot of em can't tho. Just google HDMI PC overscan and you'll get a better picutre of what I'm talking about.
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I tried with the VGA adapter on my 22" samsung syncmaster and the desktop filled the screen perfectly. Via HDMI to my 42 inch HDTV I got overscan problems.
It is though the monitor I need to use to acheive my goal of using it as a citrix thin client. I hope we can manipulate the HDMI output more in ICS. It would be nice to use the monitor's native resolution (1680x1050).
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Me personally I've been using the citrix beta app, seems to work better.
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Agreed. It has more options and seems more stable. Go figure.
The TF101 does not support greater than 720p output for mirroring. No word from Asus if they will ever bump it up to 1080p capability, since the Tegra 2 already struggles with 1080p video playback. You should wait for the TF700T for full 1080p output.
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The TF101 does not support greater than 720p output for mirroring. No word from Asus if they will ever bump it up to 1080p capability, since the Tegra 2 already struggles with 1080p video playback. You should wait for the TF700T for full 1080p output.
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Actually 1080p is not what I need. 1280 is more than enough horisontal resolution, but 720 vertical is too little. If it could output 1280x1024 on an external monitor I'd be very happy.
What I say is that there should be an alternative to mirroring on the HDMI port. With the dock and usb ports the interal screen could be switched off and a resolution of choice be shown on the HDMI-connected display.
Anyone who's got the phone yet tested if the One S outputs 720p through HDMI?
It's basically the only thing I can't find, I did however find that the One X does, but it has got a 720p screen itself.
Michael
Hello,
I have connected the one S to my sony HD TV.
the result is a bit disappointing for two reasons:
quality is not so good
latency for example when slide photos is high
I'm using a MHL cable from PNY:
PNY Adaptateur MHL (Mobile High-Definition Link) vers HDMI®
supposed to be compatible up to 1080p.
I didn't check yet the format resulting from TV point of view. I will try to find that and tell you.
For photos on TV, the Sony and HTC integrated DLNA is far better but not working all the time(seems that the TV is not visible as DLNA client all the time)
Bonus question: Is there a difference from using an MHL-adapter og the wireless dlna thingy?
Probably more lag with the wireless. Its not the best i've used it on 1080p and 720p, I think its outputting the native resolution of the phone.
Anyone got some new inputs? Thank you
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Anyone got some new inputs? Thank you
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I am looking forward to getting a bluetooth keyboard&mouse combo and an MHL cable.
I am surprised that it doesn't do 1080p, I thought that was native to ICS and that the GPU/CPU is the same as the One X
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I am looking forward to getting a bluetooth keyboard&mouse combo and an MHL cable.
I am surprised that it doesn't do 1080p, I thought that was native to ICS and that the GPU/CPU is the same as the One X
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Yeah I thought it could do that too, and the reports of lag when outputting is kinda strange. It should be fast enough at half of full hd..
I have tested again MHL after upgrading to 2.21. Now scrolling in the gallery is smooth and videos are read in full 1080p(recognized by the tv).
I even have tested games, it's awesome!
sent from my buggy HTC One s. Home button crazy handset.
So I recently bought an S3, along with a samsung MHL HDMI adapter. One of my intended uses for the phone was to watch netflix on my TV, since my laptop broke a few weeks ago.
Anyways, the MHL adapter seems to work great for everything.. EXCEPT netflix. Videos are horizontally letterboxed, looks like a square aspect ratio. And more importantly, subtitles do not show up. I watch a lot of foreign films so this is a deal-breaker. On the phone itself, everything looks perfect, widescreen and with subtitles, but somehow the MHL adapter messes everything up on the way to the TV.
I tried googling and I only found one solution, to disable hardware overlay in developer settings, but that didn't work for me.
Also, the video doesn't look very good at all, both the resolution and compression quality looks pretty ****. Is netflix not streaming in HD on android?
Does anyone know any fixes for these problems?
My LG BP730 3D UltraHD upscaling Bluray player has miracast and private sound features that may be useful for screen mirroring.
It works fine with my samsung galaxy S4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRSVyxyuO_M even for full HD videos
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My LG BP730 3D UltraHD upscaling Bluray player has miracast and private sound features that may be useful for screen mirroring.
It works fine with my samsung galaxy S4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRSVyxyuO_M even for full HD videos
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Are you still happy with this device (LG bp730)? I'm considering buying a 3d BluRay player with miracast support... have you tried any others? I'm especially curious as to how it compares with the much cheaper Toshiba BDX5400. I would also appreciate more details about strengths and weaknesses of the LG unit after having used it for a while.
I'm planning on using it with a Note 2 and an LG 65LM6200 3D TV... if you have a similar setup, can one magic remote work for both devices? I find that the menu & apps (amazon prime, youTube) on my LG TV are often sluggish, any improvement on the bluray player?
Thanks for the input..
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Are you still happy with this device (LG bp730)? I'm considering buying a 3d BluRay player with miracast support... have you tried any others? I'm especially curious as to how it compares with the much cheaper Toshiba BDX5400. I would also appreciate more details about strengths and weaknesses of the LG unit after having used it for a while.
I'm planning on using it with a Note 2 and an LG 65LM6200 3D TV... if you have a similar setup, can one magic remote work for both devices? I find that the menu & apps (amazon prime, youTube) on my LG TV are often sluggish, any improvement on the bluray player?
Thanks for the input..
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I have a lg690v and when I try to use all share cast to the tv the picture is there but the sound is all fuzzy but if I conect my all share dongle to the tv it works fine ? Do u know what the porblems is im using a galaxy note 10.1
Anyone know
It also works with Google TV my Sony 3d Blu-ray player doesn't have that feature at least I think... Never tried it Google TV works right out the box
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Are you still happy with this device (LG bp730)? I'm considering buying a 3d BluRay player with miracast support... have you tried any others? I'm especially curious as to how it compares with the much cheaper Toshiba BDX5400. I would also appreciate more details about strengths and weaknesses of the LG unit after having used it for a while.
I'm planning on using it with a Note 2 and an LG 65LM6200 3D TV... if you have a similar setup, can one magic remote work for both devices? I find that the menu & apps (amazon prime, youTube) on my LG TV are often sluggish, any improvement on the bluray player?
Thanks for the input..
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sorry for the late reply, just saw your post. Was on a few weeks holiday in aug so didnt see your post. Came back to a gazillion emails in my account so might have missed the alerts from here.
I have update my amazon Uk review for this player. It works fine for bluray and 3d bluray on my LG smart TV. The private sound mode just works for bluray and not other stuff which was a disappointment. There are some firmware bugs, once as i was repeatedly trying to get the private sound mode to work for other stuff the device froze and i couldnt even eject the bluray. Even rebooting a couple of times didnt get the bluray to eject, but after a couple more times it did work fine.
Smart apps on any smart TV or smart bluray player are a joke. I have a smart sony TV, another smart LG tv and a smart sony bluray player and another smart LG bluray player. All their smart features are barely OK but really ****ty in comparison to any cheap android stick or android minipc. Android mini pc is much more versatile when plugged into a regular TV. In my youtube uploads I deliberately showed an android mini PC being used with an old cathode ray TV and now that old smart cathode ray TV with android minipc is smarter than any new smart TV. on the youtube upload the picture looks crap, but on the TV its not crap. Reason it looks crap on the upload is because the cathode ray TV is 420p and i shot it in a 1080p camera and uploaded to youtube in 1080p and hence the 480p TV shown on 1080p camera upload looks crap. Just mentioning this to show that android mini pc is a better buy if you just want smart features.
If you want miracast the netgear ptv3000 dongle is good (also shown on my uploads) and this miracast on this bluray is also good. I havent used the toshiba so cant comment about its quality. I have used miracast on sony TVs in shops and they work fine.
craigels said:
I have a lg690v and when I try to use all share cast to the tv the picture is there but the sound is all fuzzy but if I conect my all share dongle to the tv it works fine ? Do u know what the porblems is im using a galaxy note 10.1
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try to see is the problem is some interference. You can check yourself by sitting in various areas around the tv with clear line of sight between tv and the note with nothing in between, if the case on your note has metal then remove the case have you updated the tv firmware. try to link TV to internet via ethernet or powerline adapters instead of wifi. the tv connecting to wifi and miracast at same time might cause some interference. hope this helps.
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sorry for the late reply, just saw your post. Was on a few weeks holiday in Aug so didn't see your post...
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Thanks for the info.. I was mostly interested in 3d bluray and miracast from a single device... a better / faster UI & apps would be nice, but I probably won't buy the lg since it sounds like it probably isn't that much better than my LG TV, but costs more than the toshiba.
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try to see is the problem is some interference. You can check yourself by sitting in various areas around the tv with clear line of sight between tv and the note with nothing in between, if the case on your note has metal then remove the case have you updated the tv firmware. try to link TV to internet via ethernet or powerline adapters instead of wifi. the tv connecting to wifi and miracast at same time might cause some interference. hope this helps.
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I sorted it by playing content through dlna and using the smart share app on the tv it workd brilliantly now