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I stopped back in Best Buy to ask if they knew about compass calibration resetting, and they said they do know, and that they are replacing phones with faulty compasses. If it is still within 14 days of purchase from Best Buy they will trade the phone out on the spot. If you are outside the 14 day return period, then Samsung will still replace the phone, but you have to mail yours in and they will send a new one - leaving you without a phone for the duration of that process. Which is idiotic. But, I'm with Sprint, and they said that Sprint will switch it out, on the spot, if you go into a corporate store. So that is what I will do tomorrow.
They said very few S6's had the compass report, but the ones that reported it are gold. (mine is gold.) Other than that, it's only been S6 Edges are are affected.
Now watch, I'll trade in my phone for a working compass and end up with an ISOCELL sensor.
I would not risk replacing the phone because of resetting compass calibration if everything else works ok. Too many things can go wrong - you can get faulty screen (pink/yellow tints, uneven brightness, uneven color), dim flash issue, faulty accelerometer or fingerprint scanner, random reboots, scratched camera/heart sensor glass/home button, the camera sensor you don't want etc. I still think it is software related as all 4 devices I checked had this issue. Are you sure it is HW related ?
misiek_to_ja said:
I would not risk replacing the phone because of resetting compass calibration if everything else works ok. Too many things can go wrong - you can get faulty screen (pink/yellow tints, uneven brightness, uneven color), dim flash issue, faulty accelerometer or fingerprint scanner, random reboots, scratched camera/heart sensor glass/home button, the camera sensor you don't want etc. I still think it is software related as all 4 devices I checked had this issue. Are you sure it is HW related ?
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I'm not sure of anything, but if Samsung is swapping them out instead of waiting waiting for an update, then it sounds like they are sure.
I hope very much that this is software related issue, because there's no way I can swap phone...
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I'm not sure of anything, but if Samsung is swapping them out instead of waiting waiting for an update, then it sounds like they are sure.
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Yeah, but remember Best Buy is not Samsung. I would not trust too much in their words, their answer is very often: yes, it is known issue, we will swap the device. So if you did not get a confirmation from Samsung itself I really doubt it is HW-related issue. It is just a fix for people who are not patient enough.
misiek_to_ja said:
Yeah, but remember Best Buy is not Samsung. I would not trust too much in their words, their answer is very often: yes, it is known issue, we will swap the device. So if you did not get a confirmation from Samsung itself I really doubt it is HW-related issue. It is just a fix for people who are not patient enough.
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No, these are Samsung reps in the Samsung corporate area of Best Buy. They are solely Samsung. They don't sell anything, and cannot access Best Buy computers - they are only there to demo Samsung products and give info. I'm not referring to the Best Buy Wireless employees. (I don't know if every store has a Samsung corporate display area, but all the ones I've been to in L.A. have them.)
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No, these are Samsung reps in the Samsung corporate area of Best Buy. They are solely Samsung. They don't sell anything, and cannot access Best Buy computers - they are only there to demo Samsung products and give info. I'm not referring to the Best Buy Wireless employees. (I don't know if every store has a Samsung corporate display area, but all the ones I've been to in L.A. have them.)
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Ah ok, I didn't know that. Let us know if you get rid of the compass issues once you get the new unit.
Hi DevonSloan, did you exchange your device ? Did it help to your compass calibration issues ?
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Hi DevonSloan, did you exchange your device ? Did it help to your compass calibration issues ?
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No, I didn't. Aside from being lazy, it hasn't been much of a problem since I rarely reboot my phone. I have a feeling that someday I will be upset I never got it replaced, but it's just not a big enough issue right now to take the time to do it.
What's with the title here? LOL. Did Samsung really acknowledge a problem?
I hate this compass problem. Same **** on my Note 3.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZU9U72OU5s&t=4m25s
I hope this is a flawed device and not an indicator of the way Samsung does business.
The video also explains it, it's not a flaw.
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The video also explains it, it's not a flaw.
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I've watched it a few times and it doesn't. I've got a pretty good grasp of physics so I think it's safe to say there's no liquid in there. I'll draw it out for you. Any vapor in the chamber would have to be 1) heated or not a liquid at room temp, 2) not mitigate the heat in gaseous state. Liquid/Vapor chambers work when the liquid mitigates the heat (heating it up to a gas state) and then runs up the tube to the cooler area of the heatsink (welcome to entropy) and then recondenses. This is how they work. Without any liquid at room temperature it very obviously is not a liquid cooled chamber. If it's not a flaw then Samsung is basically a company willing to blatantly lie to increase their sales.
Easy fellas! You're both right. As the video explains, the s7 has a "heat pipe" rather than liquid cooling. From my perspective, as long as it does its job, I couldn't care less, but it is interesting that sammy represented it as liquid whereas it is not....
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Easy fellas! You're both right. As the video explains, the s7 has a "heat pipe" rather than liquid cooling. From my perspective, as long as it does its job, I couldn't care less, but it is interesting that sammy represented it as liquid whereas it is not....
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It seems to be working perfectly fine for most who have the device in hand except for the few reporting overheating during VR. My concern would be the inconsistency in both Samsung's message and the product. For all practical purposes it might not matter.
cepheid46e2 said:
(welcome to entropy)
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Hi! I love you too, buddy!
cepheid46e2 said:
It seems to be working perfectly fine for most who have the device in hand except for the few reporting overheating during VR. My concern would be the inconsistency in both Samsung's message and the product. For all practical purposes it might not matter.
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I'm not experiencing any overheating issues with the S7 edge using Gear VR, and I tried it for hours at a time.
Compared to the S6 edge, MAJOR IMPROVEMENT!!!!
LIVEFRMNYC said:
I'm not experiencing any overheating issues with the S7 edge using Gear VR, and I tried it for hours at a time. Compared to the S6 edge, MAJOR IMPROVEMENT!!!!
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:highfive: Excellent. If all the phones function that way it's a moot point.
Is it possible all of the liquid is actually contained within the copper fibers and thus not visible? I would assume there's not very much as it would expand when It became a gas. Just throwing out ideas. By contained I mean, essentially stuck to.
The samsung engineer in China already explained it, there is 0.02 g water or cooling liquid inside and when you cut the pipe, they already vaporized.
As long as the phone doesn't overheat, who cares?
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As long as the phone doesn't overheat, who cares?
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Curious if this turns out to be overheating throttling or just poor software and RAM management:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=MQ8pTGCcW7A
Guessing the latter. 820 is suppose to run cooler, heat pipe, more RAM than the other android phones.
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The samsung engineer in China already explained it, there is 0.02 g water or cooling liquid inside and when you cut the pipe, they already vaporized.
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Where did you find this info?
So I'm guessing that people would rather have notable amounts of water/liquid sealed inside of a $800+. In the even an excessive shock causing the tubing to fail and in turn fry internal component's. To each their own, but I'm comfortable with what the component is capable of doing for what it is......... My .2 cents.
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Where did you find this info?
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http://m.weibo.cn/1651911632/394890...WEIBO_SECOND_PROFILE_WEIBO_-_3948908579071957
who cares of it's not liquid? Some guys who already have the phone say it doesn't heat the way the S6 does... Personally, I don't care how they do it, I only care that it doesn't get too hot
jeffonion said:
The samsung engineer in China already explained it, there is 0.02 g water or cooling liquid inside and when you cut the pipe, they already vaporized.
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any source link please!
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any source link please!
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Dude...it's literally two posts above you....
I'm not too sure what people are expecting. There is very very little water inside. I get the impression that some people are expecting water to gush out like a tap.
Does anyone know how accurate the altimeter is?
Every time a do a manual calibration, the new value is way off from the old value. Several dozen feet sometimes.
Has anyone tested it for accuracy?
I got the same problem too
And I'm in the same situation as you, I'm searching if anyone tested the accuracy of the altimeter :/
I havent found anything yet man. If you do, please post. Thanks!
When I refresh the altitude at home, I get 130ft. Checking my elevation against a geological survey source, I get 136ft.
When I'm at my vacation home on the coast (of Maine), I get 10ft.
Good enough for me
Reality test
I was skydiving yesterday and tested my Gear S3 Classic along with 2 specialised altimeters: Barigo and Neoxs.
Tried 2 apps: native baro-altimeter and Skydive altimeter metric by Jean-David Hsu.
Manual calibration and altitude set to 0 beforehand.
Below is the link to the video
https://youtu.be/Sofblyrn2FQ
So it is off at times? It is hard to see the reading in the watch in the video
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So it is off at times?
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No, the app keeps the screen alive all the time. The hand on the watch face is visible all through the jump. I put some magnifying screen shots in for better perception. Try watch the vid on PC. Must be OK.
Ljusalfheim said:
No, the app keeps the screen alive all the time. The hand on the watch face is visible all through the jump. I put some magnifying screen shots in for better perception. Try watch the vid on PC. Must be OK.
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Sorry, what I meant by "it is off at times" is that it is not always accurate? I could see that the watch was on, but it was hard to tell if was the same reading as the "real" altimeter.
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Sorry, what I meant by "it is off at times" is that it is not always accurate? I could see that the watch was on, but it was hard to tell if was the same reading as the "real" altimeter.
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I should say it IS accurate! In most cases Gear S3 performed better than Neoxs (professional skydiving altimeter). Screen shots show that the difference between Barigo and Gear is minuscule and Neoxs is approximately 100 meters wrong at times.
So, I was pleasantly surprised. The watch rocks and no mistake!
I live 200M from the coast. Setting up the Gear was easy at sea level from then on mine has been as accurate as can be expected for this type of device.
I have owned nearly every smart watch available being a watch nut and can say to date the S3 is my favorite of this type of watch. Very well made and in general a quality advanced piece of micro engineering. One to be proud of.
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The altimeter on the S3 is a fake, same as barometer. To prove it, just disconnect the watch from your phone and prevent internet access. Data will then be totally inaccurate with huge variation during the day even if staying at exact same spot.
Samsung is just using the GPS data location to get more accurate values, but wht is inside the S3 is dumb
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The altimeter on the S3 is a fake,
Samsung is just using the GPS data location to get more accurate values, but wht is inside the S3 is dumb
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Sorry but you are totally and entirely wrong. See my video (link is above). There was no phone and Internet in the sky with me.
I recommend app Altimeter & Barometer. I use it in mountain from year. Accuracy is better than stock devices.
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Sorry but you are totally and entirely wrong. See my video (link is above). There was no phone and Internet in the sky with me.
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No link I am assuming you where jumping it could I use this insted of a digital. I am jumping a analog and if this will work I would rather buy this .
kidhines said:
No link I am assuming you where jumping .
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The link is below:
https://youtu.be/Sofblyrn2FQ
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The link is below:
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Would you trust your life with this only ?
kidhines said:
Would you trust your life with this only ?
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Of course not. Never trust in one single device (even professional). I use at least 3 simultaneously.
I am very disappointed with the Samsung Barometer/Altimeter app, The barometer only registers in whole inches of mercury. All watches I had in the past, register in hundredths of inches of mercury. I wonder who else feels the same and would like Samsung to fix this error or maybe a developer could create a replacement app.
Edit: They finally updated the app and it shows the barometric pressure in 100th of a inch of mercury. Big thumbs up
dhonzik said:
I am very disappointed with the Samsung Barometer/Altimeter app, The barometer only registers in whole inches of mercury. All watches I had in the past, register in hundredths of inches of mercury. I wonder who else feels the same and would like Samsung to fix this error or maybe a developer could create a replacement app.
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I agree. Hopefully Samsung does address it. Meanwhile I found a free app called "FBarometer." Just search/install via Gear app. Seems pretty accurate, doesn't register in hundredths but does do tenths so a step up from wholes inches at least.
I have a feeling Samsung rushed to get this watch out (obviously, everythings backordered now it seems).
I have a feeling there will be many updates in the near future. At least I hope so.
If you touch the barometer to display the trend look at the outside ring, the barometric pressure is displayed gauge style with a red dash marking the pressure and the units are to the hundreds place. It's still not great but you can at least tell the difference between 28.5 and 29.
I live 77m above sea level and my watch shows -97m, a bit out me thinks.
Barometer and altimeter are useless. I live between - 90 and plus 154 meters, in Amsterdam which is - 3. Consequently also the floor counter is facked up.
dhonzik said:
I am very disappointed with the Samsung Barometer/Altimeter app, The barometer only registers in whole inches of mercury. All watches I had in the past, register in hundredths of inches of mercury. I wonder who else feels the same and would like Samsung to fix this error or maybe a developer could create a replacement app.
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You can use another very good app called Barometer & Altimeter. I use it when go mountain. I talked to author this app before download it. It was tested by a few climbers and created with help mathematicians and physicists. The measurement error is < 1%. It is better than my stock altimeter GPS-based. Very good app, absolutely worth buying.
dhonzik said:
I am very disappointed with the Samsung Barometer/Altimeter app, The barometer only registers in whole inches of mercury. All watches I had in the past, register in hundredths of inches of mercury. I wonder who else feels the same and would like Samsung to fix this error or maybe a developer could create a replacement app.
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I totally agree! Looks like the sensors that Samsung has choosen are totally pieces of crap.
Altimeter: from my sofa 5m... couple of hours later 35m!!!
Barometer and heart rates are also giving vera random figures compare to 'real' hardware.
Samsung just wanted to show more features and be in line with competition but it does not work.
They better should have left very useful features that were present on previous model likre IR Remote that I had on my Gear 2 Neo!
I will never understand Samsung when they decide to replace features in place of add new features. Mainly when they remove very useful and working gears and replace those with unreliable sensors....
You do realise that the altimeter is air pressure based right?
If the air pressure has changed during the two hours you were on the sofa then the altimeter will show a different reading.
That's the whole point of calibrating it before you set of on a climb or whatever you're up to.
@Lakota
Where is the setting screen, been through settings tried hold the screen nothing.
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@Lakota
Where is the setting screen, been through settings tried hold the screen nothing.
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Tap on the widget and scroll right.
Thanks Stormglider sorted.
Lakota said:
You do realise that the altimeter is air pressure based right?
If the air pressure has changed during the two hours you were on the sofa then the altimeter will show a different reading.
That's the whole point of calibrating it before you set of on a climb or whatever you're up to.
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Yes it's barometric. And altitude jumps all over the place even when the pressure is constant. Eg walking up the stairs, 2 stories, results in a climb of -12 to +30 meters, should be - 3 to +4. And my daily run which is totally flat at - 3 shows 116 meter hills. It's true and authentic crap and I'm gonna replace for the Fenix 5 as soon as possible!
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Yes it's barometric. And altitude jumps all over the place even when the pressure is constant. Eg walking up the stairs, 2 stories, results in a climb of -12 to +30 meters, should be - 3 to +4. And my daily run which is totally flat at - 3 shows 116 meter hills. It's true and authentic crap and I'm gonna replace for the Fenix 5 as soon as possible!
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Thats why shealth thinks i climbed 10 flights of stairs while just walking about for nine hours.
To those who think that their Gear S3 sensors are any accurate, just try to disconnect your phone Position/GPS or to use the gear S3 alone. You will then see the truth about those very inaccurate sensors that Samsung has put in the Gear!
They are only 'providing' you with accurate figures when position/gps on your phone is on, in other words, the 'accurate' info you are seeing are provided by internet data, and not by the sensors themselves... Shame on Samsung for that!
i have the same issue. at 155 ft above sea level, but watch states between -150 and +435
it also only counts 1/10th of floors climbed
I don't get accurate floor counts but I know for a fact the gps works well without my phone. At least the golf app I use gives me accurate readings in standalone mode.
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Same here. I stood outside under a clear sky around 30m above sea level. Tried calibrating thrice but each time it says -7M.
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I have used the S3 Frontier when I skydive along with my Viso II Digital Altimeter and they are within 25-50ft of each other. This is without the phone. It is actually pretty accurate. I do not use the built in app. I use one from the store called Skydiver Altimeter. It works great.
Well no clue about others.. but just got mine and comparing with two others one ming Suunto and its like some others pretty darn accurate. Just going up a few feet.. was spot on. I wonder if like the phone you need to reset it at now and again.
I got the new Samsung Gear Sport and apparently it doesn't realize I'm wearing it due to the bone in my wrist or the tattoo I have. Is there any app that I can side-load or find in the gear store that will trick it into thinking its being worn?
That's... Odd. There's a chance that your watch is defective, it might be good to see if you can exchange it or have it sent out for warranty if you try it on your other wrist and it still doesn't work. What if you move it a little higher up? Is there any situation you've been able to get it to think it's being worn?
Lastly, what symptoms is your watch experiencing that makes you think it doesn't realize it's worn? I can use my watch when holding it in my hand.
It works on the other wrist just fine, it works just fine further up the arm....it's the tattoo. The only thing that is bothering me is no always on display because it thinks I'm not wearing it. It won't read my blood pressure which I could care less about.
My Zen watch 2 would still show always on display when it wasn't on my wrist... Why don't companies actually quality control test stuff properly anymore? =(
So, I found an article about someone getting theirs to work with a reflective material. Bent washer + $5 chrome skull sticker, and electrical tape = win.
Watch always thinks it is being worn. Doesn't read heart rate but don't need that.