Good, then having had these 2 phones that are competing in the same category of both prices and features and range I leave you with their strengths.
The note 9 has wireless charge which the mate does not 20x, both mobile if they have displayport output via USB c 3.1 and pc mode
Photos: by day the note 9 brings out the photos that are more similar to reality, in zoom the matte 20x has 3x optical zoom and 5x hybrid, the note has 2x optical zoom, in night photography the matte 20x is the clear winner, It has exactly the same camera as the matte pro 20 and you can see the night mode without a tripod.
Video: Here the note 9 is the clear winner, record at 4k 60 FPS when he dies 20x only does it at 4k at 30 FPS, it shows, the note 9 would put it just below the last iPhone that for me have no rival
Fluency: Samsung with Android 9.0 One Ui has improved a lot, but I do not know if it will be because of the somewhat more powerful and new processor of the 20x mate that goes a little more electric the Huawei, not much but if you notice
Connectivity: calls and data without problem in any of the 2, in wifi if I notice difference in favor of mate 20x, I have in my house the wifi router downstairs in the garage (it is a chalet) and my room is on the second floor, as the Huawei has 3 Wi-Fi rays while the Samsung has 2 and sometimes 1
Audio: by cable headphones I notice something higher at note 9, on speaker both are on par, no doubt great work of Huawei because equalizing note 9 and its double AKG speaker is not easy, but it has achieved, no doubt , the 2 a 10 in this section.
Quality of screen: here is a winner, not by much difference but there is, the note 9 has a screen with slightly richer and brighter colors, the Samsung is a super amoled 2k, the Huawei is a full-amoled amoled that Look impressive too, but note 9 is superior
Battery, as on the screen note 9 is more colorful and more bright, in battery the Huawei mate 20x wins by beating the note 9, the 5000 milliamps and the lower resolution are noticed and much.
Spen vs Mpen, the note 9 supports an optical pen called spen that is included in the mobile, in this section the note has many more functions with the pen than the Mpen of the matte 20x, Samsung here is unrivaled, the Huawei Mpen is sold separately and costs about 60 euros now I think, I must admit that Huawei is almost tuteando to Samsung in writing experience and handling of the pencil, I mean, obviating that note 9 has more options of series and is more functional, the Mpen mate 20x reminds me, saving some distance, with the iPad Apple pencil, in precision, although the Apple would be above both, Huawei has done very well.
How to give a winner, obviously wins the spen of note 9 for having more options and come included
Power and processing: Here is a winner but it is logical, the matte 20x with your kirin 980 has not only hit the table, but is more modern than the exynos 9810 of note 9, you can see antutus, geekbench 4 etc. , but I have noticed it in opening applications and in general fluency, the kirin is above.
Conclusions: well, if before you wanted to take notes on a smartphone you only had Samsung's note range, which was the only one that offered you this, Huawei, this year, (to preser not including the stylus, and only there is a case that by the way is sold on eBay and allows you to have the matte 20x and the pencil together) has hit the table creating a very large phablet that yes, but that tuteando the range of Samsung that for me is the Queen par excellence, the range note, with the matte 20x you lose something on screen, spen options, convenience to save the pen on your own device, video recording, but you win in night photography, power, battery and WiFi connectivity.
For me the 2 best phablets of today without any fear of being wrong, and if, when you use the pencil and you get used to it, a mobile without a pencil seems to you that something is missing.
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Price, both are very similar, about 779 euros in Spain, cheaper Chinese versions imported
Greetings and forgive for the billet
I had note 9 before mate 20x
Note 9 is boring ind not great besides my mate 20x
I only miss screen
rowihel2012 said:
I had note 9 before mate 20x
Note 9 is boring ind not great besides my mate 20x
I only miss screen
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Do you have the Mpen?
kevin_23 said:
Good, then having had these 2 phones that are competing in the same category of both prices and features and range I leave you with their strengths.
The note 9 has wireless charge which the mate does not 20x, both mobile if they have displayport output via USB c 3.1 and pc mode
Photos: by day the note 9 brings out the photos that are more similar to reality, in zoom the matte 20x has 3x optical zoom and 5x hybrid, the note has 2x optical zoom, in night photography the matte 20x is the clear winner, It has exactly the same camera as the matte pro 20 and you can see the night mode without a tripod.
Video: Here the note 9 is the clear winner, record at 4k 60 FPS when he dies 20x only does it at 4k at 30 FPS, it shows, the note 9 would put it just below the last iPhone that for me have no rival
Fluency: Samsung with Android 9.0 One Ui has improved a lot, but I do not know if it will be because of the somewhat more powerful and new processor of the 20x mate that goes a little more electric the Huawei, not much but if you notice
Connectivity: calls and data without problem in any of the 2, in wifi if I notice difference in favor of mate 20x, I have in my house the wifi router downstairs in the garage (it is a chalet) and my room is on the second floor, as the Huawei has 3 Wi-Fi rays while the Samsung has 2 and sometimes 1
Audio: by cable headphones I notice something higher at note 9, on speaker both are on par, no doubt great work of Huawei because equalizing note 9 and its double AKG speaker is not easy, but it has achieved, no doubt , the 2 a 10 in this section.
Quality of screen: here is a winner, not by much difference but there is, the note 9 has a screen with slightly richer and brighter colors, the Samsung is a super amoled 2k, the Huawei is a full-amoled amoled that Look impressive too, but note 9 is superior
Battery, as on the screen note 9 is more colorful and more bright, in battery the Huawei mate 20x wins by beating the note 9, the 5000 milliamps and the lower resolution are noticed and much.
Spen vs Mpen, the note 9 supports an optical pen called spen that is included in the mobile, in this section the note has many more functions with the pen than the Mpen of the matte 20x, Samsung here is unrivaled, the Huawei Mpen is sold separately and costs about 60 euros now I think, I must admit that Huawei is almost tuteando to Samsung in writing experience and handling of the pencil, I mean, obviating that note 9 has more options of series and is more functional, the Mpen mate 20x reminds me, saving some distance, with the iPad Apple pencil, in precision, although the Apple would be above both, Huawei has done very well.
How to give a winner, obviously wins the spen of note 9 for having more options and come included
Power and processing: Here is a winner but it is logical, the matte 20x with your kirin 980 has not only hit the table, but is more modern than the exynos 9810 of note 9, you can see antutus, geekbench 4 etc. , but I have noticed it in opening applications and in general fluency, the kirin is above.
Conclusions: well, if before you wanted to take notes on a smartphone you only had Samsung's note range, which was the only one that offered you this, Huawei, this year, (to preser not including the stylus, and only there is a case that by the way is sold on eBay and allows you to have the matte 20x and the pencil together) has hit the table creating a very large phablet that yes, but that tuteando the range of Samsung that for me is the Queen par excellence, the range note, with the matte 20x you lose something on screen, spen options, convenience to save the pen on your own device, video recording, but you win in night photography, power, battery and WiFi connectivity.
For me the 2 best phablets of today without any fear of being wrong, and if, when you use the pencil and you get used to it, a mobile without a pencil seems to you that something is missing.
Price, both are very similar, about 779 euros in Spain, cheaper Chinese versions imported
Greetings and forgive for the billet
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The note 9 is cheaper where I live but I have used both phones next to each other in store and the note feels small and slower after using the m20X
If the 20x was waterproof with a higher resolution screen I think it would win all the categories tbh
Not that the note isn't a great phone, but they are both last year's technology at this stage
(I just ordered the m20X 8/256 because I can't wait for the m30x and ~6.4" screens don't really appeal to me anymore because everyone is making them now )
rowihel2012 said:
I had note 9 before mate 20x
Note 9 is boring ind not great besides my mate 20x
I only miss screen
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+1
Here's hoping the rumored Samsung Note 10 Pro closes the size gap, flattens screen, of course includes pen.
My previous device was a note 9 that I was satisfied with. I switched to the Mate 20 X because of the larger screen, wide angle camera and the battery.
Disadvantages I have encountered so far is the low PPI and screen brightness ( You quickly get used to it, just like the size of the phone) compared to the Note 9. Furthermore, very satisfied with the Mate 20 X
papashex said:
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Here's hoping the rumored Samsung Note 10 Pro closes the size gap, flattens screen, of course includes pen.
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I'll let you know in a couple months!
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I've used them both for extended periods of time, and I have to agree with most of your points. I have an M-Pen, but like the Notes I've had, I just find myself not using it, so I really can't disagree. I found the battery life in the Note 9 to be more than acceptable, as is the S10 I have. The 7nm architecture is really something when it comes to speed and battery life. Much better than the Note 8 or S9 variants. But the combination of the biggest screen and battery I can fit in my pocket and the 7nm Kirin chip's speed and efficiency is something to behold. I doubt I'll replace my M20X with anything less than a Fold(if we can get them sorted out...) or a Mate X. Time will tell.
kevin_23 said:
Good, then having had these 2 phones that are competing in the same category of both prices and features and range I leave you with their strengths.
The note 9 has wireless charge which the mate does not 20x, both mobile if they have displayport output via USB c 3.1 and pc mode
Photos: by day the note 9 brings out the photos that are more similar to reality, in zoom the matte 20x has 3x optical zoom and 5x hybrid, the note has 2x optical zoom, in night photography the matte 20x is the clear winner, It has exactly the same camera as the matte pro 20 and you can see the night mode without a tripod.
Video: Here the note 9 is the clear winner, record at 4k 60 FPS when he dies 20x only does it at 4k at 30 FPS, it shows, the note 9 would put it just below the last iPhone that for me have no rival
Fluency: Samsung with Android 9.0 One Ui has improved a lot, but I do not know if it will be because of the somewhat more powerful and new processor of the 20x mate that goes a little more electric the Huawei, not much but if you notice
Connectivity: calls and data without problem in any of the 2, in wifi if I notice difference in favor of mate 20x, I have in my house the wifi router downstairs in the garage (it is a chalet) and my room is on the second floor, as the Huawei has 3 Wi-Fi rays while the Samsung has 2 and sometimes 1
Audio: by cable headphones I notice something higher at note 9, on speaker both are on par, no doubt great work of Huawei because equalizing note 9 and its double AKG speaker is not easy, but it has achieved, no doubt , the 2 a 10 in this section.
Quality of screen: here is a winner, not by much difference but there is, the note 9 has a screen with slightly richer and brighter colors, the Samsung is a super amoled 2k, the Huawei is a full-amoled amoled that Look impressive too, but note 9 is superior
Battery, as on the screen note 9 is more colorful and more bright, in battery the Huawei mate 20x wins by beating the note 9, the 5000 milliamps and the lower resolution are noticed and much.
Spen vs Mpen, the note 9 supports an optical pen called spen that is included in the mobile, in this section the note has many more functions with the pen than the Mpen of the matte 20x, Samsung here is unrivaled, the Huawei Mpen is sold separately and costs about 60 euros now I think, I must admit that Huawei is almost tuteando to Samsung in writing experience and handling of the pencil, I mean, obviating that note 9 has more options of series and is more functional, the Mpen mate 20x reminds me, saving some distance, with the iPad Apple pencil, in precision, although the Apple would be above both, Huawei has done very well.
How to give a winner, obviously wins the spen of note 9 for having more options and come included
Power and processing: Here is a winner but it is logical, the matte 20x with your kirin 980 has not only hit the table, but is more modern than the exynos 9810 of note 9, you can see antutus, geekbench 4 etc. , but I have noticed it in opening applications and in general fluency, the kirin is above.
Conclusions: well, if before you wanted to take notes on a smartphone you only had Samsung's note range, which was the only one that offered you this, Huawei, this year, (to preser not including the stylus, and only there is a case that by the way is sold on eBay and allows you to have the matte 20x and the pencil together) has hit the table creating a very large phablet that yes, but that tuteando the range of Samsung that for me is the Queen par excellence, the range note, with the matte 20x you lose something on screen, spen options, convenience to save the pen on your own device, video recording, but you win in night photography, power, battery and WiFi connectivity.
For me the 2 best phablets of today without any fear of being wrong, and if, when you use the pencil and you get used to it, a mobile without a pencil seems to you that something is missing.
Price, both are very similar, about 779 euros in Spain, cheaper Chinese versions imported
Greetings and forgive for the billet
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Definitely going to use this recommendation of yours to try it out for myself. Since we have an event in Camella Manors, I definitely need a new phone or device to document the event. thank you for sharing this one!
I had a note 9 and it was a brick. I sold it shortly after getting it. The Mate 20 X has a much wider screen which makes the weight worth it, and it still does not feel heavy. Interestingly, the Note 9 is not as heavy as the Mate 20 X, but it was a few years since I hate the Note 9. I tried rooting the Note 9 and the software was buggy thanks to Samsung being crappy. But the Mate 20 X, it may not even be rootable anymore, I'm still trying to figure it out. I like the size of the Mate 20 X - it's the perfect phone size. I can only go on what I remember, but I liked the Mate 20 X out of the box better than I liked the Note 9 out of the box.
Edit: Mate 20 X is still rootable, I had to buy a separate cable to downgrade to Android 9 first, then I should be able to unlock the bootloader and root.
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Hi all,
I've had my note 3 (n9005) for almost 3 years now and it is has been perfect since then - no issues whatsoever.
I am mainly changing for a bigger screen as I grow tired of watching videos and clips on a 5.7" screen.
That's why I am here to ask for your opinion regarding this matter.
The Mate 8 seems like a natural upgrade as it is quite good - yet not as expensive as the note 5.
Also I'd be happy to get rid of TouchWizz and still have an SDcard slot - pity about the irreplaceable battery though.
I might also miss the stylus and the 4K recording as well, but what can you do.
BUUUT..I feel like the 6 inch mate 8 won't be of any help regarding my request for a bigger screen. These 0.3" might not distinguishable in my opinion.
So I am currently thinking about the 7" X2 and the 8" M2 tablet as they can make calls, have a bigger screen and fingerprint sensors - all the things I want in my new phone.
Unable to make a decision but atleast I know the following:
Mate 8 - flagship and would be the best all-around upgrade for the Note 3
X2 compromise between bigger screen and specs - but realistically the specs aren't way higher than my 3 year old Note 3
M2 going all the way to the biggest phone I could carry in my pockets(very important!) but the specs are still similar to the X2 and the note 3 - also more a tablet than a phablet - not a great camera etc..
What do you guys think?
Should I go with the logical upgrade or go for the main thing that bothers me and on which I put a great weight in all of this - the display size.
I went from note 3 to mate 8. My note 3 had the zerolemon 10k mAh battery, and I can tell you the mate 8 battery doesn't disappoint. Always lasts me the whole day and still got plenty left. This includes playing coc. I think the fast processor in here actually make that game not so battery hungry. Some issues initially with google contacts etc, but everything is fixed without having root. So far I'm very happy. For me I just need to get use to such a slim phone as compared to the note3 with the huge battery.
I have the X2 and the Mate 8. It really depends on what you prefer. I prefer the larger screen on the X2 but it's a little tough to pocket sometimes. The X2 fits in my pocket but you really can't sit down with it in your pocket or else it will bend a little. If you're at a wedding or club or anything like that it's a pain to carry around. It's great at home for anything web browsing or media consumption. My fiance has an M2 it's pretty much a tablet so it's definitely too big to use as a phone unless you're sitting at a desk. The Mate 8 has all the bells and whistles and the fingerprint scanner and having LTE here in the US is beneficial. I'd go with the Mate 8 first at this point. You can always pick up an X2 at a later date as they are inexpensive.
I went from note 5 to mate 8 with no regrets. You can't beat the performance and battery.
So has anyone ordered a Note 8 yet? I have Mate 9 (since Jan '17) and its awesome, but and it is a big BUT, that AMOLED display!! No doubt, that Samsung has some of the best displays in the business.
Everything in Mate 9 works as expected, the finger print reader is super fast, the battery life is amazing generally speaking. It charges fast, the UI is responsive. The camera is half decent. It just works.
I wanted to started a conversation around the idea, if it is worthwhile moving from Mate 9 to Note 8 ? Or perhaps wait for Mate 10?? Yeah lets throw that in too!
bym007 said:
So has anyone ordered a Note 8 yet? I have Mate 9 (since Jan '17) and its awesome, but and it is a big BUT, that AMOLED display!! No doubt, that Samsung has some of the best displays in the business.
Everything in Mate 9 works as expected, the finger print reader is super fast, the battery life is amazing generally speaking. It charges fast, the UI is responsive. The camera is half decent. It just works.
I wanted to started a conversation around the idea, if it is worthwhile moving from Mate 9 to Note 8 ? Or perhaps wait for Mate 10?? Yeah lets throw that in too!
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I wait for V30. Huawei Mate 10 with IP68 is my favorite too but I need Knock on and Mate 9 not have this function. Amoled not important for me. Photo quality, IPxy and knock on are more important for me.
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I'm waiting for Mate 10 and Mate 10 Pro, those are the only two phones that are worth waiting, the S8 and Note 8 have nothing to offer.
I just switched from a Note 4 to the Mate 9 and love it. Yes there are some drawbacks but its nothing a little big of tweaking cant fix for me anyway. I looked at the price of the Note 8 and was like NOPE...Was on my 2nd Note 4 with the eMMC issue and didn't want to spend $1200 plus tax for the Note 8. Picked up the Mat e9 for $749 taxes in (Half price!)
Derpling said:
I'm waiting for Mate 10 and Mate 10 Pro, those are the only two phones that are worth waiting, the S8 and Note 8 have nothing to offer.
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I crave the AMOLED screens on the Samsungs. That would actually make my Mate 9 complete...
Came from the Note 4 to the Mate 9. Still have my Note running S8 ROM port. I have considered the Note 8 but, the battery life for one would be less than the Mate 9 which is absolutely stellar. The price is another issue. The wrap around screen is not for me on the Note 8. I like a firm solid phone, too. The note feels good but very delicate if dropped. I'm staying with my Mate 9. I went through a period of thinking maybe getting rid but nope, it's my right hand man. Probably the best phone I have ever owned. 128gb, 6gb Mate 9.
bym007 said:
I crave the AMOLED screens on the Samsungs. That would actually make my Mate 9 complete...
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I though i was the same, but the Mate 9 screen is great as an IPS LCD, however if u still want AMOLED, Mate 10 pro is the version you want, shame it will be 1100$ if rumors are right.
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btblue said:
Came from the Note 4 to the Mate 9. Still have my Note running S8 ROM port. I have considered the Note 8 but, the battery life for one would be less than the Mate 9 which is absolutely stellar. The price is another issue. The wrap around screen is not for me on the Note 8. I like a firm solid phone, too. The note feels good but very delicate if dropped. I'm staying with my Mate 9. I went through a period of thinking maybe getting rid but nope, it's my right hand man. Probably the best phone I have ever owned. 128gb, 6gb Mate 9.
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There is no phone that serves as a true upgrade over Mate 9, in fact the Mate 9 is better than all flagship in terms of battery life and performance.
Someone tested the Note 8 on ppsspp emulator, playing Tekken DR and it worked poor as on my S7E, on mine Mate 9, it runs 60fps solid and Tekken 6 as well, that shows that Samsung is throttling the device on purpose via DVFS, another reason to stay away for me.
Derpling said:
I though i was the same, but the Mate 9 screen is great as an IPS LCD, however if u still want AMOLED, Mate 10 pro is the version you want, shame it will be 1100$ if rumors are right.
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Not looking to go into $1000 category currently, however, I do wish for a AMOLED display.
Derpling said:
There is no phone that serves as a true upgrade over Mate 9, in fact the Mate 9 is better than all flagship in terms of battery life and performance.
Someone tested the Note 8 on ppsspp emulator, playing Tekken DR and it worked poor as on my S7E, on mine Mate 9, it runs 60fps solid and Tekken 6 as well, that shows that Samsung is throttling the device on purpose via DVFS, another reason to stay away for me.
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Totally agree the battery aspect, since no flagship of 2017 came anywhere near 4000mAH battery.
The accu is me to small, this is the main reason for me to buy huawei and no edge displays.
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I'll wait for the Note 9.
The Mate 9 is too excellent to give up just yet.
Even the Matte 10 can wait for the 11
I went from Note Edge (the first one) to Huawei Mate 9. It took a little while to adjust plus I still miss the pen but I find that as time goes on I have really grown to like the Mate 9. Battery and speed and memory are top notch. There have been several good updates with camera improvements. I'm sure the Note 8 is a great phone but I really hate the idea of a 18.5 to 9 screen. It appears that the Mate 10 will now go to a 18:9 screen. I'd rather Huawei keep the same aspect ratio of Mate 9 and maybe slightly increase diagonal. Regardless, I'd rather wait to bump up to a Mate 10 than purchase a Note 8, especially if Huawei continues to improve camera.
bym007 said:
Not looking to go into $1000 category currently, however, I do wish for a AMOLED display.
Totally agree the battery aspect, since no flagship of 2017 came anywhere near 4000mAH battery.
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I'll get the Mate 10 Pro probably, or Mate 10 if price will be really 1100$, nonetheless i know many people that stormed on the S8, and quickly got back to the Mate 9 never to look back.
Just today i played Angry Birds 2 and Tekken 6, so smooth, no performance issues, while both lagged, with Tekken 6 being unplayable on the Note8 and S8+.
If you have another last years flagship I'd say get the note 8 because it has the latest hardware. If you have the mate 9 now I wouldn't switch, this phone is just so great, amazing camera which really invites you to play with the settings in pro mode.
It has great battery life, I play alot of elder scrolls legends on this phone and it's allows me to play for hours and hours. My screen on times swing between 9 and 10 hours. Pretty impressive I would say.
I came from a nexus 6 so the Amoled vs lcd debate I can understand. I do prefer lcd tho.
OK, it doesn't have the true blacks and color saturation that Amoled has but it has great color reproduction and best if all, no navbar/statusbar burnins, hooray! This thing also gets very bright in daylight so it's very usable in direct sunlight.
I would say, swap this device only for the to be revealed mate 10.
Huawei is known for improving its phones year by year. The mate 9 was a good step up from the mate 8 as the mate 8 was from the mate 7. I'll be guessing it will be very speedy, have a great battery life and a great screen, Amoled or even lcd. The camera will be improved the most I think, this Leica coop has been working out great for Huawei and the camera's improve with every new phone. The p10 plus has a decent low light camera, guessing the mate 10 will be better in every aspect.
Time will tell, my next mate device will be a mate 11 tho, can't wait to be 1 year ahead of this one.
VALUE, that's what I'm after
Is it "better" I guess depends on what you want out of your device.
"Better" can be described as faster, more power, or simply a faux feeling
of "better".
Personally, I think most smartphones are OVER priced, for MY value.
That's why I don't buy a new phone when they are released. I "wait it out".
Typically, phones have a bug or two, be it software or hardware, when released.
I WAIT until a "new" version is announced and ready for release, then, start watching
for the price of last years new model. The Mate 9 was (USA) around 900 dollars when
released. I bought one this week, for $449.00
I find that if you buy the LAST of the so called new one, when another new one comes
out, I get a better value for my money. Granted, 99.9% of cell phone manufacturers
are late/never update their phone firmware. But, at least for the last 3 Huawei phones
I've owned (Mate 2,8,9) have been very stable with the firmware they ship with, so, for
my use, it doesn't matter. I don't play games, 3d anything, but, I do a TON of talking
(around 2,000 minutes per month), text, web (work), video, mp3's, streaming. I don't
turn it off at night, runs MONTHS between reboots, great life, so the version of firmware
doesn't bother me. But, I don't think the "higher end" phones, so to speak are a good
value, because when you look at build costs, of even the super high end devices of
around $300, but command over $1,000? That's nuts! Personally, I think it is because
the fashion designers/hipsters have taken over the industry. Now, what's the first thing
you hear when someone announces/displays a phone?
Oh! Look how slim, colorful & stylish it is! We hired bla bla bla fashion designer to design
the phone. (Um...how much "style" can you make out of a rectangular slab of plastic, glass &
metal??). Phones are overpowered, have way to many megapixels on the super tiny camera
sensor and on and on, to justify the price increase. As long as consumers continue to buy
into it, can't blame the manufacturers that are catering to it.
Me, I'm kind of like the old story of the two bulls on top of the hill, overlooking a heard of
cows below. The young bull asks the old bull, hey...how about we run down there and screw
some cows. The OLD bull says, son, why down we creep down there SLOWLY and screw em
all.
Sometimes slow is better, for me, especially when it comes to spending my hard earned money.
I had a mate 9 earlier in the year, got a note 8.
Note 8 has a great camera but i just do not like using it, it is absolutely not worth the price they are asking. Rather use my 7 plus or Xz Premium over it. XZp would be my DD if the camera didnt suck.
My p10 plus can barely hit 3 hours SOT so it sits on the desk, huge disappointment. Should have kept the mate 9.
Guys, I am planning to purchase a flagship recently, Samsung S9 was my favour before known Honor 10 from Honor hub of XDA ‘【The New Species in Color】Honor 10 makes Galaxy S9 looks boring！！！’. Honestly, the colour Aurora violet impressed me a lot. S9 looks a little bit boring (S9 still looks much better than iPhone 8) compared with Honor 10. Exclude the ID design, the specification of Honor 10 still not worse than S9.
It is no doubt the absolute performance of Kirin 970 is slightly weaker than Snapdragon 845 or Exynos 9810, but the high performance of 845 can do nothing exclude game! (Well, I’m not a gaming addict) In contrast, the NPU innovated in 970 is awesome, especially utilised for scene recognition and semantic image segmentation mode in camera. To illustrate this two AI technology, I quote the official explanation from Honor below:
The Honor 10’s AI camera was developed and supported by the NPU processor in the Kirin 970 chipset, which means it recognises 500+ scenarios in 22 categories real-time. It can pinpoint the outlines of various surrounding objects, like the sky, plants, people and waterfall, and identify their locations. This feature is supported by the industry-first Semantic Image Segmentation technology, which allows the Honor 10 to identify multiple objects in one single image. It is here where the Honor 10 stands out from the crowd at the first place. Furthermore, the industry-first Honor 10 features apply scene-specific parameters to each photo real-time when taking a picture, making every photo you take professional at just one click.
IT’S REALLY COOL!!!!
I’m sure there will be more AI utilizations in the future based on NPU. Currentlutilizationisation of new technology on the phone is much more rational than pursuing absolute performance blindly.
In the unlock aspects, S9 has iris recognition, facial recognition and fingerprint on the back. But I prefer the ultrasonic fingerprint on Honor 10 since it not only located on the front but also work with a wet finger. By the way, the facial recognition also present on Honor 10 lol…
And the battery of Honor 10 is 3400mAh which is more than 3000mAh in S9. I think Samsung is too conservative on both battery capacity and fast charge after the issue of Note 7, the small battery and outdated 18V fast-charging technology make S9 less attractive. Moreover, the SuperCharge of Honor provides 5V 4.5A = 22.5W keeps phone cool when charging compared with the high voltage 18W QC2.0 (9V 2A). The cool SuperCharge makes me feel more reliable than hot QC2.0, cause I always worry that my Galaxy S7 ‘Boom’ when I charging, it’s really hot!!!
Honor 10 has launched in China last week, ¥2599 (€340) for 64GB; ¥2999 (€391) for 128GB which is much cheaper than Galaxy S9 (nearly €1,000).
As the global launch event will be held on May 15th in the UK, I am so curious about the price. Here I listed some of the core specs of the two phones.
What price do you guys think this psychedelic new phone from Honor is going to be?
€400 or €500?
I have prepared €1,000 for S9 before, but now I think I can purchase two Honor 10 for me and my wife lol…
I would choose Honor 10.I just like huawei more.Price quality and specs ratio hands down for honor 10.
I would buy nokia 7 plus for superior build quality and stock android and faster updates and good battery
With Honor 10 in my hands for 4 days, I would say go buy it if you don't mind the over saturated camera, especially the overly airbrushed human faces in photos. So much for "AI camera"... I regretted my ¥2999.
Fair to say though the phone looks gorgeous and the notch can be turned off...
If I have another chance, I would rather wait for 1+6
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With Honor 10 in my hands for 4 days, I would say go buy it if you don't mind the over saturated camera, especially the overly airbrushed human faces in photos. So much for "AI camera"... I regretted my ¥2999.
Fair to say though the phone looks gorgeous and the notch can be turned off...
If I have another chance, I would rather wait for 1+6
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Can't you send it back ? Wtf
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With Honor 10 in my hands for 4 days, I would say go buy it if you don't mind the over saturated camera, especially the overly airbrushed human faces in photos. So much for "AI camera"... I regretted my ¥2999.
Fair to say though the phone looks gorgeous and the notch can be turned off...
If I have another chance, I would rather wait for 1+6
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Ok, that sounds terrible! Can you post some inages, with and without AI. some faces, plants, landscapes/city images? that would be greatly appreciated!
"especially the overly airbrushed human faces in photos."
Ah, but that makes the images 'professional' apparently. I think I'll stick to a proper, straight set of images that I can post process, should I so choose, with photoshop...
If honor 10 will launch in India with base variant at 35k then there is no competition with oneplus 6. Everyone go for the oneplus 6 at 37k. Also honor has unspecified version of gorilla glass protection. But oneplus 6 has gorilla glass 5. Last time honor launched it's honor v10 that has some of the better specs with it's bigger battery and price at just 30k of 128gb variant and also the display quality.
"Can you post some inages, with and without AI. some faces, plants, landscapes/city images? ..."
Unfortunately I don't have much spare time during the day - but I will try but not very soon.
"but that makes the images 'professional' apparently"
I guess those PS effect automation is the so-called "intelligence" of current camera-hype. I just don't like the overexposed and airburshed fake faces - some might like it though.
Colleage of mine who has s8+ said to me the same thing. He owned Piexl 1 before and would go back to Pixel 3 (when out) solely for the camera department.
Apart from camera the fingerprint recognition of Honor 10 is hardly usable with dry hands - face unlock is fatastic though.
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With Honor 10 in my hands for 4 days, I would say go buy it if you don't mind the over saturated camera, especially the overly airbrushed human faces in photos. So much for "AI camera"... I regretted my ¥2999.
Fair to say though the phone looks gorgeous and the notch can be turned off...
If I have another chance, I would rather wait for 1+6
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Can I turn off the AI camera if I don't want the "intelligent" effect?
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Can I turn off the AI camera if I don't want the "intelligent" effect?
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You can, only partially. It has apeture, portrait and photo mode. In portrait mode you can set beauty level and photo mode has AI switch. I have set beauty level 0 and AI off - improving to some extent - but to me the photos are still overexposed and unnatual.
Selfie camera is more obvious even with beauty level 0.
BTW the phone was bought from China in a trip and I live in NZ so returning is a real challenge. I decided to keep it despite of the annoyances. I like the size and the looks of the body, dual sim functionality, and able to customise the UI to my liking...
Put all specs bs aside, buttom line:
Less screen .
Les battery.
Optic zoom *2 only....
No headphone jack.
No dedicated second stereo speaker (earpiece).
Price-LOL...
Your opinion?
Having just purchased the Mate 20 X 5G I can honestly say it's a stunning device, and that I really do love the 7.2" Display.
As you will be aware the 5G variant doesn't have a headphone jack (this doesn't concern me as all my headphones are Bluetooth).
I have also Pre-ordered the Note 10+ 5G I don't think it's inferior, intact it's the only device that incorporates the pen and it's actually a fully functional tool (yes we have the M-Pen) but it's not quite the same.
I never dismiss a product but I do agree that for the Note line it ought to have been better and for me personally that would have just taken two things (on top of what was announced) those are a 90hz Display & 5000mah battery. This didn't happen and was a disappointment to which I think Samsung will regret.
However as I don't own a Samsung currently to have both the Mate 20 X 5G & The note 10+ 5G I'm in a very happy position. Two powerhouses that perform very differently but each has their own strengths and weaknesses.
I own a EVR-L29 (Mate 20 regular version)
I was an avid user of the Note line (as shown in my signature), and i always had issues with battery life not lasting long enough. I use it a lot during my daily commute & work (Spotify, 3D Gaming, Google Maps, BT headphones & Smartwatch, Note-Taking, Youtube & a lot of photo/video taking). I always had to charge intermittently whenever i could.
After switching to the Mate 20 X, I never had to charge at any point throughout the day/carry a power bank. It just lasted me until night despite my power use. The big screen was a joy to look at and game with.
The only thing i missed from the Note was the S-Pen. Sure the Mate 20 X has the Mpen but it feels hard & slippery and counterintuitive to use. I also wish the Note 10+ had a bigger battery but understand the space constraints when factoring the space needed for the SPen.
Having said that, like @Duncan1982 I have pre-ordered the Note 10+ (non-5G) and will use both devices. Lets see how the new Note fares.
Wouldn't trade mine M20X(4G) for any sammy device.
5000mah 7.2 inch amazing cameras and performance and awesome speakers
Wait for mate30.
Do any of you have issues with the mate 20x fitting in your pockets?
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Do any of you have issues with the mate 20x fitting in your pockets?
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no problem in the front pockets
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Wait for mate30.
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There's a rumor that the Mate 30 X variant may not come out. Have to wait and see.
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I noticed the slight bulge in my regular front pocket initially, but after awhile it felt normal
I'm interested in what the screen size difference is side by side. 6.8 vs 7.2, but the note plus has a larger screen to body ratio. Has anyone held both yet? One in each hand. Interested in how big of a difference the screen size actually is.
Let's face it, the note 10 For day to day usage it will never be as good as mate 20 x in the area that matters the most, BATTERY LIFE. Galaxy Note series always had it's own magic that called the Spen but to be honest, better camera and longer battery life is all that matters these days since even the 300$ phones have the speed and good displays nowadays
The longer I have this phone, the more valuable it is to me. You see the new phones coming out, with mediocre upgrades and a hefty price tag.
Note 10 Plus is a great phone, no denying that but in the UK it will cost £1000 for the 4g version. In the UK you can buy the Mate 20X and get a Huawei Watch GT for £499.
Stellat battery life, fantastic screen, the Dolby Atmos stereo audio is amazing, HDR display... And fantastic camera for me just keeps me with the Mate 20 X. If course you have the Pen with the Note 10 Plus which is no gimmick.
Also I prefer a flat screen, the curved screen doesn't do it for me... Horses for courses
I answered my own question today, I held the 10 plus and my mate 20x. I was surprised how small the note plus felt at 6.8 compared to 7.2. I had pre-ordered one just in case, but I think I'm going to cancel it. The screen is lovely no question. But I don't want to go backwards in size. I hope a Mate 30x is in the future and the rumors aren't true that they're going to kill the line.
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I'm interested in what the screen size difference is side by side. 6.8 vs 7.2, but the note plus has a larger screen to body ratio. Has anyone held both yet? One in each hand. Interested in how big of a difference the screen size actually is.
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https://www.phonearena.com/phones/size/Samsung-Galaxy-Note-10+,Huawei-Mate-20-X/phones/11190,11027
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https://www.phonearena.com/phones/size/Samsung-Galaxy-Note-10+,Huawei-Mate-20-X/phones/11190,11027
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Yup that's what I saw in person when I compared them. Really no comparison screen wise, now to see if we get lucky and a Mate30x is in our future, I'd love to have wireless charging.
Tested the N10 today in the store, the plus version.
It's SMALL compared to the 20 X, awesome screen, ok speakers but the rest is same as s10.
M20 X FTW
I'm very tempted by the 20 X since it's day one (finally a phablet close to my old Xperia Z Ultra), however I'm not sure whether EMUI would be to my liking. It seems that the MPen isn't really as useful as an S-PEN... Additionally Samsung DeX and Linux on Dex are really good. I guess Easy projection is close to DeX, albeit less polished. But there's nothing like Linux on Dex on Huawei's side.
Still can't decide (of course there is the 500 euro price difference).
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I'm very tempted by the 20 X since it's day one (finally a phablet close to my old Xperia Z Ultra), however I'm not sure whether EMUI would be to my liking. It seems that the MPen isn't really as useful as an S-PEN... Additionally Samsung DeX and Linux on Dex are really good. I guess Easy projection is close to DeX, albeit less polished. But there's nothing like Linux on Dex on Huawei's side.
Still can't decide (of course there is the 500 euro price difference).
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EMUI 10 inspire by OneUI, I think. It optimized for one hand operation plus M20X battery life is the beast so likely I want to keep M20X over jump Note10+. For me Note10+ advantages are smaller footprint ( still big screen ) and SPen. Cons: M20X much better in term off P/P.
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There is no Mate 30x coming due to Mate x (folding phone) and Mate 20x 5g.
Note 10+ is easier to see in sunlight compared to Mate 20x.
Note 10+ has better camera quality (not by much however)
Mate 20x is louder and clearer sound.
Note 10+ pen is simply far superior & incredible.
I still own a Mate 20 x. No intentions of leaving. It is my daily.
My problem with Samsung is that they use punch holes and curved screens. I really don't like/want that.
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My problem with Samsung is that they use punch holes and curved screens. I really don't like/want that.
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i feel your pain lol, am an architect and i hate those very useless curved displays , i have no idea why they do it. the size of that mate 20x is just what the note line should be , i dont know of the screen quality currently on the mate 20x but 2k would be much better for sure and add an spen to it and thats the most perfect phone, and tbh even without the spen i think its the most perfect phone size wise, speakers wise etc
Hi to all ?
First of all I have P30 Pro, and last my 2 phones was Mate 20cand P20 Pro. Because thay all are great phones and great camera. So I search new phone with much better camera, don't get me wrong P30 Pro is best in the market for photography but not for video. So I'm searching something good for both. The only thing what can it be is Mate 30 Pro (that what was I aspect).
But in the beginning wierd thing is, they put just Ultra wide angle camera for videography. (this phone spouses to have best video camera, Huawei said that. Every day in every news you can read this). So they put in Mate 30 Pro special sensor for videography. That's sounds good, but results is not good at all. And they put the smallest "ultra wide angle camera in market for now"!!! Sorry DXO Mark, I can't agree with you this time.
I will post some videos down and I will like to hear your comments.
P. S. I know this is not final software on M30P, and I hope someone will make again new video comparison after final software.
1. Mate 30 Pro vs IPhone 11
2. Mate 30 Pro vs P30 Pro
After these videos I really don't know what to say... ? M30P is very good phone, but camera is even not better then P30 Pro.
I would wait until the phone has been released to the public to make allegations. It's hard when only peeps on YouTube have review devices.
I agree with you completely. I've been waiting for this phone to trade my P30 pro for 2 major reasons....the video quality and the damn color balance.
Unfortunately BOTH will not be addressed. Video quality looks on par with flagships now (especially considering with shooting at a much wider field of view) but at the sacrifice of ultra wide angle!! 18mm? seriously? People need ultra wide angle to capture MORE and they they reducing it from 16mm to 18 mm here!
Also the same sensor without color corrections means I'm stuck with the same color inconsistencies like on my P30 pro. White balance is a joke and 3/4 pics are different, skin tones all unnatural and heavy.
I was seriously planning on sourcing this but as you said, it is by no means king of Camera and far from DXO high horse ratings.
...and I still don't know why they never added auto HDR
The mate 30 pro released early than Huawei expected, most of those early reviews on YouTube are not final version, Dxomark had the latest close to final build installed, according to Huawei CEO thats not the final version, let see the future update... I'll say wait for P40 if you looking for camera big improvement that's what P series focused.
Actually, P series is always the master of camera. Then Mate series. if you want better camera, wait for p40 pro, want better quality and performance, buy mate 30 pro
i just watched the dxomark youtube mate 30 pro video. video quality was very high compare to youtubers . there was a compare in 5lux with note 10 plus. it was clear the winner was mate 30 pro. maybe it needs some patch to software. lets see the final product software then talk. Huawei claimed mate 30 pro it is best in video.
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i just watched the dxomark youtube mate 30 pro video. video quality was very high compare to youtubers . there was a compare in 5lux with note 10 plus. it was clear the winner was mate 30 pro. maybe it needs some patch to software. lets see the final product software then talk. Huawei claimed mate 30 pro it is best in video.
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Yes in low light, but video is not so good like Samsung. It have problem with dinamic range, like phones with 300 eur price.
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Yes in low light, but video is not so good like Samsung. It have problem with dinamic range, like phones with 300 eur price.
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Agreed. They just can't do video well
Video better after updates. Can't see choppines while panning left and right anymore
Agreed, video recording seems miles better than what I got from before. I've already had 4 system updates since unboxing the phone last week.
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Hi to all ?
First of all I have P30 Pro, and last my 2 phones was Mate 20cand P20 Pro. Because thay all are great phones and great camera. So I search new phone with much better camera, don't get me wrong P30 Pro is best in the market for photography but not for video. So I'm searching something good for both. The only thing what can it be is Mate 30 Pro (that what was I aspect).
But in the beginning wierd thing is, they put just Ultra wide angle camera for videography. (this phone spouses to have best video camera, Huawei said that. Every day in every news you can read this). So they put in Mate 30 Pro special sensor for videography. That's sounds good, but results is not good at all. And they put the smallest "ultra wide angle camera in market for now"!!! Sorry DXO Mark, I can't agree with you this time.
I will post some videos down and I will like to hear your comments.
P. S. I know this is not final software on M30P, and I hope someone will make again new video comparison after final software.
1. Mate 30 Pro vs IPhone 11
2. Mate 30 Pro vs P30 Pro
After these videos I really don't know what to say... ? M30P is very good phone, but camera is even not better then P30 Pro.
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I ditched my P30 Pro for the Note 10 the moment they announced the Mate 30 Pro and confirmed that it will have an RYYB sensor.
The color science is god awful on this sensor, it's way inconsistent, and makes the skin of my kids look pale and dull. My Mate 20 Pro took much better pictures, with vibrant pleasing colors. The night mode on the P30 Pro was also useless, due to the RYYB sensor, the phone would try to correct the colors and 10/10 times, I'll have a green cast all over my pictures.
Even with Google play services, and a much cheaper price, I wouldn't have got this phone, no more RYYB sensors for me.
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I ditched my P30 Pro for the Note 10 the moment they announced the Mate 30 Pro and confirmed that it will have an RYYB sensor.
The color science is god awful on this sensor, it's way inconsistent, and makes the skin of my kids look pale and dull. My Mate 20 Pro took much better pictures, with vibrant pleasing colors. The night mode on the P30 Pro was also useless, due to the RYYB sensor, the phone would try to correct the colors and 10/10 times, I'll have a green cast all over my pictures.
Even with Google play services, and a much cheaper price, I wouldn't have got this phone, no more RYYB sensors for me.
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Same to me. I sell my P30 Pro. Really I can't believe my self. But it was very good price. And I buy Note 10 Plus. I didn't regret. Camera us much better in daylight and indoors. But in no low light but no problem for that, Gcam can fix it
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Same to me. I sell my P30 Pro. Really I can't believe my self. But it was very good price. And I buy Note 10 Plus. I didn't regret. Camera us much better in daylight and indoors. But in no low light but no problem for that, Gcam can fix it
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Nothing can beat the P30 Pro and Mate 30 Pro in complete darkness, but honestly, how many times do you take pictures in extremely dim areas? It was a fun trick to try the 1st few days after buying the P30 Pro, but then it was something that I barely used.
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Nothing can beat the P30 Pro and Mate 30 Pro in complete darkness, but honestly, how many times do you take pictures in extremely dim areas? It was a fun trick to try the 1st few days after buying the P30 Pro, but then it was something that I barely used.
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Yap, thats is it.
Is red tint problem(in low light) + light bulb artifact has been fixed?
Tint+Color shift+Artifact are problem since P30pro using RYYB.
I'm very confused why they still use RYYB If they can't fix it
https://www.gsmarena.com/mate_30_pro_vs_iphone_11_pro_vs_galaxy_note10_camera_compare-news-39381.php
You just posted 2 videos as evidence while ignoring alot of other videos out there. BiG bRaIn move right here.
-Green cast only ocurred if you used nightmode, the thing is you get the same result minus green cast with full automode.
-Color Science its way better than the Mate 20 pro.
Having owned both and since updates have arrived it's 100% better than all those phones.
Now I have both Mate 30 pro & Note 10+.. So far I noticed that the mate 30 pro doesn't have auto focus on front cam, my face gets blurry when I take a selfie at a distance of below 50cm from the phone. It sucks for me, or maybe bec I already get used with my Note 10+ which gives me more detail on selfie either close up or not. Why Huawei never fixed it since P30 Pro I think or even earlier.
I'm impressed with the 7680 frames per second in Slow motion video.
Very impressed with the overall photography and video capture of my M30P.
Weekly updates almost once every week on my CN M30P just make it better and better. I have a strong feeling it blows the stock firmware out of the water too.