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I've spent literally days and days reading through threads about various ROMs, I'm hoping someone who has more experience with OPO ROMs than me can point me in the right direction - looking for a solid ROM with these features baked in:
Good ad blocker
Privacy guard
Best or close to best battery life
Can set system font
Solid : doesn't crash or have nasty wakelocks / memory leaks - want a phone that spends most of it's time nicely SLEEPING when it's in my pocket
Most of the ROMs I've looked at seem to be missing one or more of those basic features? I was thinking CM 12S will be good, but then was reading about layers and they were saying the CM theme engine is not so good in terms of security or efficiency compared to the layers theming system?
I like CM 11S pretty well at this point, but I realy want to get behind (support/use) a great ROM that comes with something like AdAway pre-installed because I want to see good ad blockers included (built into) more ROMs and I want to support that. It's deeply discouraging to me when I can't find a great ROM with ad blocking baked in. Same with Privacy Guard - I don't think any ROM should come without Privacy Guard or equivalent baked in!!!
Thank you so much for your help/advice - believe me, I HAVE searched and read many threads, but I expect there are thousands of other people who have had their OPOs for weeks or months longer than me and can give me some solid advices!
Please resist the urge to simply tell me "Just try ROMs for yourself bro!" - I have done that before (on my Galaxy S3) I probably tried about 30 - 40 diff ROMs on that phone. At the moment, I look and read when I can, but before I flash I'd like to know if there are least a couple that at least have those basic features, and if not, I wonder why?
My best guess at this point is, I will need to stay with CM 11S and ad Xposed? I used Xposed a couple different times, but most recently it broke - the device still works, just Xposed was no longer compatible once it got an OTA update... I haven't put Xposed on my OPO yet as I didn't have much time for making backups/restoring re-flashing the phone in case it gets messed up because I have my kids over spring break for the next week and a half.
The only issues/missing features I'm currently experiencing with 11S are: haven't figured out how to set my system font (or perhaps my old type of font file is no longer compatible?), don't have adds blocked in apps yet, and I want to change the color of my clock in the status bar. I will go ahead and read through threads about putting Xposed on OPO - hopefully it can be added on 11S without causing any glitches?
Oh, and my [stock/unlocked/rooted CM11s] phone is not yet working for LTE - I have Walmart Family Mobile and I recently read that they have begun supported LTE. Sometimes it's just 3G and sometimes it's H+. I will call their support sometime over the next couple days because so far all I did was move the SIM card from my S3 to the OPO and perhaps it's not properly "provisioned(?)" for LTE yet? I say that because I watched one video on Youtube where a guy had to take his OPO to the AT&T store and put his SIM card in another LTE phone, then when he put the SIM back in the OPO, LTE started working on it.
Try Vanir-Exodus, there's a link to it in my signature. It has all those features except setting the system font (which I think you'll have a hard time finding as a stock feature in a ROM anyway), and the battery life is fantastic. Plus, it's mostly original development unlike a lot of the other ROMs out there which just cherry pick commits.
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Thank you for responding timmaaa,
timmaaa said:
Try Vanir-Exodus, there's a link to it in my signature. It has all those features except setting the system font (which I think you'll have a hard time finding as a stock feature in a ROM anyway), and the battery life is fantastic. Plus, it's mostly original development unlike a lot of the other ROMs out there which just cherry pick commits.
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I was all set to try Exodus - but then I read some users mentioning some problems, and I think there was some important feature(s?) I wanted missing, so then I thought - oh, well I'm actually mostly happy with 11s.
The only things missing from 11s for me ATM are 1)haven't found how to change the system font yet,Adaway doesn't seem to block all the in app ads, and it doesn't come with Xposed "baked in".
If Exodus comes with Xposed pre-installed, then wouldn't that let me change the system font?
Basically I want to: set different system font, make the status bar clock green, and not give up Privacy Guard or Profiles - and of course not have to use a ROM with poor stability or poor battery life. My purpose is for the phone to be most enjoyable and useful to use, not to try a different ROM each week and find lots of bugs/glitches/wakelocks/missing features. I went through that with the S3...
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Thank you for responding timmaaa,
I was all set to try Exodus - but then I read some users mentioning some problems, and I think there was some important feature(s?) I wanted missing, so then I thought - oh, well I'm actually mostly happy with 11s.
The only things missing from 11s for me ATM are 1)haven't found how to change the system font yet,Adaway doesn't seem to block all the in app ads, and it doesn't come with Xposed "baked in".
If Exodus comes with Xposed pre-installed, then wouldn't that let me change the system font?
Basically I want to: set different system font, make the status bar clock green, and not give up Privacy Guard or Profiles - and of course not have to use a ROM with poor stability or poor battery life. My purpose is for the phone to be most enjoyable and useful to use, not to try a different ROM each week and find lots of bugs/glitches/wakelocks/missing features. I went through that with the S3...
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Honestly, I haven't had a single issue on Exodus. It doesn't come with Xposed pre-installed, but I'm not sure any ROM actually does. It has Privacy Guard, and it has Profiles. Battery life is excellent and it's as stable as they get.
Blisspop, or basically any ROM with CM themes do let you change the system font (it's part of themes).
like Team Nocturnal's latest ROM. Smooth, no bugs other for me. Never tried to set the font as of yet.
Every 5.1 or higher ROM I've tried had been buggier than EVERY 5.0.2 or 4.4.4 ROM I've tried.
I'm really hoping that some 5.1.x ROM comes out soon without apps crashing, graphics glitches, or wakelock problems.
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Every 5.1 or higher ROM I've tried had been buggier than EVERY 5.0.2 or 4.4.4 ROM I've tried.
I'm really hoping that some 5.1.x ROM comes out soon without apps crashing, graphics glitches, or wakelock problems.
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I've tried several 5.1 ROMs that are completely bug free, you might need to look at your setup.
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I've tried several 5.1 ROMs that are completely bug free, you might need to look at your setup.
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Which ROMs?
"Setup"? You're not suggesting that I should try without choosing a more reasonable DPI or give up on using the system font that I always use, or put up with ads or wakelocks, are you? Those are what I see as "basic and essential features".
I do "clean" installs and the only app I restore using Titanium Backup is "A Better Camera Unlocked". I use features such as Profiles, Users, and (hopefully) the ROM's built-in AdBlock (otherwise I use AdAway).
If a ROM requires that a third party patch be used to fix wakelock problems, then I'd consider it an "Alpha" at best?
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Which ROMs?
"Setup"? You're not suggesting that I should try without choosing a more reasonable DPI or give up on using the system font that I always use, or put up with ads or wakelocks, are you? Those are what I see as "basic and essential features".
I do "clean" installs and the only app I restore using Titanium Backup is "A Better Camera Unlocked". I use features such as Profiles, Users, and (hopefully) the ROM's built-in AdBlock (otherwise I use AdAway).
If a ROM requires that a third party patch be used to fix wakelock problems, then I'd consider it an "Alpha" at best?
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No I'm not suggesting that at all. I use a custom DPI (370). I use Adaway. I don't use a custom font though. Keep in mind that certain DPI's can and do cause major issues, so you might need to tweak that a little. As far as wakelocks go, no, I wouldn't consider them an Alpha at all. Wakelocks can be found in stock ROMs from the major OEM's, and isn't always caused by the system, quite often they can be caused by third party apps, and apps from within the gapps package.
Hello,
first, I have to admit, I have not much idea of custom roma and kernels.
I bought a new oneplus 6 a6003 8GB 128GB and Im thinking of installing a CustomROM, but Im not quite sure that its the right thing to do to match my user expectations. Ive read on reddit that many people are happy with the OEM Oxygen and that the dont see no need to install a CustomROM. Or does it makes sense to only change the kernel?
What I want to achieve by installing a CustomROM:
- stabme and reliable operation
- no pre-installed Bloatware
- no pre-installed indespensable google-apps and services
- nor other pre-installed undeletable Apps/Services
- eventually longer battery running time, but not if it would damage the battery over time and shorten its lifespan
- possibility to adjust fine settings like change the vibrationpattern for incoming calls/sms/notifications individually
- smooth parallel running of multiple apps
- automatic OTA updates
What I do NOT want to achieve by installing a CustomROM:
- putting my device at the risk of a write-off (or is ir always given when flashing other OS)?
- deterioration of stock performanceralating to the battery life time/ life span, reaction rate etc
- missing support of some (banking?) apps, cause they dont classify the new os as trustworthy
Thank you very much for your help
PS: While searching the web I found a lot threads on diferent forums where people compare they smartphones to the Google Pixel 3 (as the better device?) and install the google pixel 3 OS on their smartphones. whats so special about this phone/OS?
In my opinion all the custom ROM's have just as good battery life or slightly better then the stock Oxygen OS. Good thing about OnePlus phones is if you "brick" the device you can easily restore it with the MSM Download tool, so no need to worry about writing it off. If you want to remove all bloatware and control what google apps are installed maybe you would like OmniRom with a custom kernel (I feel like most of the kernels on here are all great, can't go wrong with any of the popular ones). If you want your phone to feel like the Pixel 3 (comes with a lot of google apps but using the OS feels pretty nice) I'd recommend the OmniTreskmod ROM.
If all you want to do is remove the bloatware xXxNoLimits ROM might be a good option. If you edit the script there are plenty of debloat options.
Hard to go wrong with this phone, it's pretty amazing. Good luck!
I recommend you:
treskmod
or stock + magisk + custom kernel
Do open beta 12 with smurfkernel
Settings for if you prefer battery life or performance.
I got an antutu score of 309,000 with smurfutil_flex
samsonix said:
Hello,
first, I have to admit, I have not much idea of custom roma and kernels.
I bought a new oneplus 6 a6003 8GB 128GB and Im thinking of installing a CustomROM, but Im not quite sure that its the right thing to do to match my user expectations. Ive read on reddit that many people are happy with the OEM Oxygen and that the dont see no need to install a CustomROM. Or does it makes sense to only change the kernel?
What I want to achieve by installing a CustomROM:
- stabme and reliable operation
- no pre-installed Bloatware
- no pre-installed indespensable google-apps and services
- nor other pre-installed undeletable Apps/Services
- eventually longer battery running time, but not if it would damage the battery over time and shorten its lifespan
- possibility to adjust fine settings like change the vibrationpattern for incoming calls/sms/notifications individually
- smooth parallel running of multiple apps
- automatic OTA updates
What I do NOT want to achieve by installing a CustomROM:
- putting my device at the risk of a write-off (or is ir always given when flashing other OS)?
- deterioration of stock performanceralating to the battery life time/ life span, reaction rate etc
- missing support of some (banking?) apps, cause they dont classify the new os as trustworthy
Thank you very much for your help
PS: While searching the web I found a lot threads on diferent forums where people compare they smartphones to the Google Pixel 3 (as the better device?) and install the google pixel 3 OS on their smartphones. whats so special about this phone/OS?
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If you want an incredibly customizable experience, you have to try havoc os. It doesn't come with gapps preinstalled and is compatible with microg and battery life is pretty good too. This rom is very stable as well and it is more customizable than any other oneplus 6 custom rom.
Liquid Remix seems to be more stable (than HavocOS) for me.
It has a great Battery life (without any GApps installed) and about the same amount of features as Havoc does.
GApps always impact the battery life quite negative, but I don't know how much the difference exactly is in comparison, because I never installed any GApps package
Anyway, I can recommend that you look inro this thread:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-6/how-to/custom-rom-t3867290/
(The mentioned bugs for Liquid Remix are fixed in the recent releases)
For a clean, fast, reliable and polished ROM, you could try Pixel Experience. I've been using it on 3 phones, it's really amazing.
Or wait for Paranoid Android to get a bit more advanced. It's le Rolls Royce of Android ROMS.
About kernels, Smurf is my favourite. Awesome performance, AND awesome battery life. The phone last two days with a single charge and around 5h of screen-on time.
If you flash a custom ROM, wiping your phone data is mandatory though.
Edit : I'm a bit off topic, as you asked for something without preinstalled Google Apps and lots of customization, which is the opposite of Pixel Experience. I'm personally waiting for Paranoid Android, loved it since Nexus 4. This guys created head-up notifications, Oreo-style recents and floating window multitasking on Jelly Bean, for f*** sake, they are unbelievable.
I have no experience with this device and have it not here to test. Want to maybe install a Custom ROM for a friend to get away from a "destroyed" Stock. So I need to be sure if I want to do that, since I can not test around with the device.
My main question is if I should go with lineage-14.1-20190302-microG-herolte.zip (camera performance?) or because of better camera performance, stability, speed and long autonomy go with another ROM based on 8/9 (maybe MicroG also possible to install there)?
Bluetooth support/stability is certainly important (car, home stereo) as well as usage of apps like WhatsApp, Facebook, Instagram and Signal. For E-Mail, Calendar, Addresses I think we could switch to Google Alternatives as well as as to FOSS/F-Droid Alternatives for others. Not sure if the friend needs Google Maps - would install OSMAnd.
Any experience and advise welcome. Thanks a lot.
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I have no experience with this device and have it not here to test. Want to maybe install a Custom ROM for a friend to get away from a "destroyed" Stock. So I need to be sure if I want to do that, since I can not test around with the device.
My main question is if I should go with lineage-14.1-20190302-microG-herolte.zip (camera performance?) or because of better camera performance, stability, speed and long autonomy go with another ROM based on 8/9 (maybe MicroG also possible to install there)?
Bluetooth support/stability is certainly important (car, home stereo) as well as usage of apps like WhatsApp, Facebook, Instagram and Signal. For E-Mail, Calendar, Addresses I think we could switch to Google Alternatives as well as as to FOSS/F-Droid Alternatives for others. Not sure if the friend needs Google Maps - would install OSMAnd.
Any experience and advise welcome. Thanks a lot.
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I can tell you from my own experience it is much faster with lineage rom and you will have much more storage and ram avaible than the stock rom. By the way if you decide to install lineage knox will not work anymore and microg would be possible to install
It may also be worth considering the unofficial ports in these forums, they're built off the LOS nightly releases but given more special attention.
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It may also be worth considering the unofficial ports in these forums, they're built off the LOS nightly releases but given more special attention.
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Ok, but since it is not my device (can not test ROMs) and I seek support-free daily driving I'm not ready to take the risk of unofficial ports as well as they might work, unless experienced users comment here comparing current well supported ports directly to official LinOS 14.1 (microG) builds. As far as I can see the only official Pie 9.0 ROM is Resurrection Remix v7.0 from 20190310; but MicroG is not supported and deodexing services.jar for NanoDroid MicroG install seems too complex for this case. If it would be my device I would try, no problem then.
ChriMo said:
Ok, but since it is not my device (can not test ROMs) and I seek support-free daily driving I'm not ready to take the risk of unofficial ports as well as they might work, unless experienced users comment here comparing current well supported ports directly to official LinOS 14.1 (microG) builds. As far as I can see the only official Pie 9.0 ROM is Resurrection Remix v7.0 from 20190310; but MicroG is not supported and deodexing services.jar for NanoDroid MicroG install seems too complex for this case. If it would be my device I would try, no problem then.
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That's part of why I was recommending unofficial, as far as I'm aware the official LineageOS builds are nightly, which is technically non-stable branch. Unofficial ports aim to be 'stable' quality.
Either way you probably won't get a support free OS out of LineageOS. There's always oddities, although usually small.
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That's part of why I was recommending unofficial, as far as I'm aware the official LineageOS builds are nightly, which is technically non-stable branch. Unofficial ports aim to be 'stable' quality.
Either way you probably won't get a support free OS out of LineageOS. There's always oddities, although usually small.
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Thank you for explaining. Small oddities should be fine, at least I hope since I never used TouchWiz (immediately installed LinOS on a S5m) and do not know how easy it is for a Samsung user to come to the AOSP/LinOS World.
I probably would go with a PIE MicroG supporting ROM like AospExtended 6.3, HavocOS 2.2 or crDroid 5.1 if any of them would be official like Resurrection Remix v7. I know it is not a quality distinction per se, but without some experience it gives a little more confidence to at least currently have something cared for.
LineageOS 16 because necessity of deodexing etc. is not a candidate for me.
Hopefully in the next days I can try the migration. I will try in this order: HavocOS 2.2 (no experience) > AospExtended 6.3 > LineageOS 15.1 microG
Guys, what rom to use, which is the best, do you install any magisk add-ons and how much battery life can you use?
Currently using Syberia OS. Aside from testing some other ROMs for a few hours, it has been my daily driver. In my opinion, it's simply the best Pie ROM currently avaliable for the P2. Very stable, great performance, and I usually can go between a day and a half and two full days before charging my P2, when needed.
In Magisk, I usually need and use only six modules: Detach, FDE.AI (or LKT), Universal GMS Doze, ViPER4Android v2.7.1.0 and YouTube Vanced. Also used Rboard Themes (because I loved that entirely black Gboard theme), but I keep forgetting to reinstall it.
Syberia is the best pie rom I have used.
Thanks in the evening I will be installing Siberia. And tell me what Busy box and Ram management fixes by crok are for
Hello there, i recently unlocked my bootloader and i'm ready leave MIUI for good. Therefore i was wondering which custom rom is the most useful for my personal use.
I rarely play games and the ones i play are light-weight and not demanding games. I usually browse social media and watch movies.
I don't need many extra features, stability is the most important thing for me.
So i'm looking for a ROM that's close to stock android with a few nice features, that's stable and hopefully battery-efficient.
Thanks in advance.
If You dont play games and want a stabile room go for Arrow OS ,If you want customization go for dot Os ,Cr droid.
I have the same user profile as you: looking for a stable ROM, with OTA updates.
So far as I've read the internet out there, most people go for Xiaomi.eu (for MIUI like experience) or ArrowOS (for a more pure Android experience).
But, of course, there's plenty of other options.
I'm more willing to go for Xiaomi.eu, but I would like to hear other users' experiences too.
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我和你有相同的用户资料：寻找一个稳定的 ROM，有 OTA 更新。
就我在互联网上的阅读而言，大多数人会选择小米.eu（为了类似 MIUI 的体验）或 ArrowOS（为了更纯粹的 Android 体验）。
但是，当然，还有很多其他选择。
我更愿意去小米.eu，但我也想听听其他用户的体验。
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Crdroid is the best choice.
yajdintaydemir said:
Hello there, i recently unlocked my bootloader and i'm ready leave MIUI for good. Therefore i was wondering which custom rom is the most useful for my personal use.
I rarely play games and the ones i play are light-weight and not demanding games. I usually browse social media and watch movies.
I don't need many extra features, stability is the most important thing for me.
So i'm looking for a ROM that's close to stock android with a few nice features, that's stable and hopefully battery-efficient.
Thanks in advance.
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ArrowOS version 07-09-2021 in the best one regarding smoothness and stabilty, however latest builds (from 07-23-2021 included) aren't good, scaling governor was changed for the worst, and since they switch from stock to their own vendor it have some relevant bugs.
tl:dr: ArrowOS 07-09-2021 build, both official or vanilla. Also LineageOS once it will become official can be a good choice.
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Crdroid is the best choice.
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Could you elaborate a bit and share your experience?
Cr Droid has some bugs when I tested , arrow is good but not the best , I recomand Dot OS 5.1.1 it's more stabile , now I'm on Pixel Extended and is working grateful .
marcelorodrigo said:
I have the same user profile as you: looking for a stable ROM, with OTA updates.
So far as I've read the internet out there, most people go for Xiaomi.eu (for MIUI like experience) or ArrowOS (for a more pure Android experience).
But, of course, there's plenty of other options.
I'm more willing to go for Xiaomi.eu, but I would like to hear other users' experiences too.
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My phone comes with Xiaomi EU , and is not grate ,you can go if you want but is the same ****t experience from MIUI ,go for Dot or arrow because MIUI EU is not good .
Edit: is very heavy 5.2GB and not good for games ,and has a very resorce consuming UI .
ArrowOS get worse with every OTAs so no, I won't recommend ArrowOS for now.
LineageOS as listed in its thread has its bug and with only one OTA so far, I can't judge if is good long run yet but with my past experience using it on other phones, it has been great. Still, those are by different maintainers so only time can tell.
From my experience, the best one in terms of stability is CrDroid, i can't find significant bugs on it.
I have 0 issues with ArrowOS no idea what are you people talking about. If about the CPU governor scaling it's intended and i dont see any issue with it, battery life is about the same and it's more fluid. Furthermore it's only matter of time and every custom ROM will be based on OSS vendor so better get used to it.
Can you explain how exactly it gets worse with every OTA?
As long as ROMs keeps get updates, there's always chance getting bugs or issues when update, so there's no "Best custom rom for stability".
Don't update if the ROM is working well makes the ROM stable.
The most stable ROM is the ROM that don't get updates. Everything is always the same. Bug is the same, issue is the same, security vulnerabilities are still there. So stable .
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I have 0 issues with ArrowOS no idea what are you people talking about. If about the CPU governor scaling it's intended and i dont see any issue with it, battery life is about the same and it's more fluid. Furthermore it's only matter of time and every custom ROM will be based on OSS vendor so better get used to it.
Can you explain how exactly it gets worse with every OTA?
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Personally, I am a power user and the first problem I encountered is how difficult to install Viper4AndriodFX on ArrowOS and only to learn that the "sound feature" is in conflict with it. Most roms don't have such "feature" and when I report such feature is in conflict with other sounds apps, they simply reply "not my problem". Imagine microsoft telling you drivers not working on windows because of a "feature" isn't their problem.
Now, moving on to my first OTA, not the scaling update but the one before that. The first problem I notice is it broke one of my google app, I had to reinstall and reboot 3 times to get it working again. I also do root my phone, if is not obvious enough from the previous paragraph. While the ota did reinstall the magisk but that's that. My bank apps and whatever apps stop working (detecting root) even though it was fine before OTA. Fortunately, google app start updating plenty of apps (not the banks ones), I don't know which apps are the main culprit but it start working again. Now that's a problem, do I have to reinstall all the apps every time I do OTA?
Now, moving on to the previous OTA, the scaling update one. You say is intended but with my experience so far, I call that bs, more like when they syncing with kernel source, they replace the value from that kernel source. Furthermore, "governor" exist for a reason and if you gonna interfere with the job of "governor", why have "governor" in the first place?
Now, looking at the bug reports in ArrowOS page, other device is experiencing "NFC" issues. Now that a big one, I don't know about your country but my country has been utilizing contactless payment for years. While it isn't this device that is bugged but it does worry me.
If you do not have any issues, doesn't mean others don't. It could be just that you don't use your phone extensively like others or you not a power user. Last but not least, you are not the only user and I do appreciate if you don't ridicule others' users feedbacks just because you don't have issue yourself. This statement also apply to @pl1992aw.
All your "issues" (except CPU governor which is not issue or a bug) you have mentioned are related to third party mods (Viper4Android and Magisk specifically).
Also FYI - NFC and Gpay works without Magisk, i use it daily with 5 different banking apps (Nest, Santander, Paypal, Revolut and Gpay). So maybe next time before you blame the ROM try using it without mods?
Also you just discovered why majority of devs ignore bug reports coming from users which are using mods, including ArrowOS. https://blog.arrowos.net/how-to-report-a-bug/
WHAT NOT to report!
Bugs which are present in unofficial builds or anything that is nit downloaded from our official download server.
Asking about device support, unlocking bootloader, getting TWRP installed and similar queries are not encouraged.
Bugs on a device which has root priveleges from SuperSU, Magisk, Magisk modules or any other rooting methods that exists etc.
Issues which suggest feature requests.
Issues which suggest supporting a new device which we do not own.
Bugs which arise after replacing default apps.
Bugs in devices which occur in third party apps.
Bugs in devices we do not support anymore.
Bugs in ArrowOS experimental builds.
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Last but not least, you are not the only user and I do appreciate if you don't ridicule others' users feedbacks just because you don't have issue yourself. This statement also apply to @pl1992aw.
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Ha ha ha I'm tagged.
I'm not sure which part you thought ridicules other users' feedbacks.
Maybe this part?
The most stable ROM is the ROM that don't get updates. Everything is always the same. Bug is the same, issue is the same, security vulnerabilities are still there. So stable .
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This part is mainly talking about updates of anything in general.
Example: Windows 7.
Windows 7 don't get updates anymore. Everything is always the same. Bug is the same, issue is the same, security vulnerabilities are still there. So stable.
When one updates from Windows 7 to Windows 10, there's many compatibility issues and many complaint from users.
So is Windows 7 not stable? It's still stable as it is and nothing changed.
So is Windows 10 not stable? It's still stable as Microsoft keeps fixing it and update it, but never Best stable, never exist.
Is it forced to update Windows 10 from Windows 7? Yeah maybe when it just came out, but not now. You can choose not to update. Some banking ATM is even still using Windows XP because of compatibility issues, but they also take the risk of vulnerabilities and bugs.
Is Windows the Best OS on the market? Well, maybe, at least from the coverage; maybe not, there's still whole bunch of complaint every time there's update.
What's the whole point? The whole point is that this kind of topic is dynamic.
When there's update with issues, "This ROM is bad".
When there's update that fix all the pre-existing issues, "This ROM is good".
When the new update brings other issues alongside with patch of pre-existing issues, "This ROM is bad".
Question - This ROM is good or bad?
Answer - Subjective and dynamic.
Be prepared with updates. This also applies to MIUI. How's the opinion when people update from MIUI 12.0 to MIUI 12.5? Why do you quit using MIUI?
I do appreciate if you respect one another users' positive feedbacks just because you don't have positive feedbacks.
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All your "issues" (except CPU governor which is not issue or a bug) you have mentioned are related to third party mods (Viper4Android and Magisk specifically).
Also FYI - NFC and Gpay works without Magisk, i use it daily with 5 different banking apps (Nest, Santander, Paypal, Revolut and Gpay). So maybe next time before you blame the ROM try using it without mods?
Also you just discovered why majority of devs ignore bug reports coming from users which are using mods, including ArrowOS. https://blog.arrowos.net/how-to-report-a-bug/
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Like I have said, you are not a power user or use it extensively like others, your experience is different to others. So, is the power users experience less than that of your experience?
Can you not ridicule other users' experience? Or is your experience more important than others?
Lastly, you seem to selectively read some of things as well.
pl1992aw said:
Ha ha ha I'm tagged.
I'm not sure which part you thought ridicules other users' feedbacks.
Maybe this part?
This part is mainly talking about updates of anything in general.
Example: Windows 7.
Windows 7 don't get updates anymore. Everything is always the same. Bug is the same, issue is the same, security vulnerabilities are still there. So stable.
When one updates from Windows 7 to Windows 10, there's many compatibility issues and many complaint from users.
So is Windows 7 not stable? It's still stable as it is and nothing changed.
So is Windows 10 not stable? It's still stable as Microsoft keeps fixing it and update it, but never Best stable, never exist.
Is it forced to update Windows 10 from Windows 7? Yeah maybe when it just came out, but not now. You can choose not to update. Some banking ATM is even still using Windows XP because of compatibility issues, but they also take the risk of vulnerabilities and bugs.
Is Windows the Best OS on the market? Well, maybe, at least from the coverage; maybe not, there's still whole bunch of complaint every time there's update.
What's the whole point? The whole point is that this kind of topic is dynamic.
When there's update with issues, "This ROM is bad".
When there's update that fix all the pre-existing issues, "This ROM is good".
When the new update brings other issues alongside with patch of pre-existing issues, "This ROM is bad".
Question - This ROM is good or bad?
Answer - Subjective and dynamic.
Be prepared with updates. This also applies to MIUI. How's the opinion when people update from MIUI 12.0 to MIUI 12.5? Why do you quit using MIUI?
I do appreciate if you take up one another users' positive feedbacks just because you don't have positive feedbacks.
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You are mocking others, if that isn't clear enough for you.
Lu5ck said:
You are mocking others, if that isn't clear enough for you.
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Yeah not clear for me. I'm not that smart as you are.
How?
pl1992aw said:
Yeah not clear for me. I'm not that smart as you are.
How?
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Well, it may or may not be your intention. For example
You could write
Yeah not clear for me. How?
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But you chose to include another line
I'm not that smart as you are
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You are already passively doing so.
I've been using Havos OS on previous xiaomi redmi 5 plus... and I think its the best out there... (big fan).... buuuut....I always end up finding some minor bug in ASOP/vanilla based custom roms.... and Havoc isn't official yet for the x3 pro.. so I've install Xiaomi.eu rom last week and I guess that the best rom you can get for POCO x3 pro right now...it's basically same as stock miui rom except you dont get all the anoying ads..and will get all the goodies from china based xiaomi rom
marcelorodrigo said:
I'm more willing to go for Xiaomi.eu, but I would like to hear other users' experiences too.
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can't go wrong with it.... I've been using it for 5 days now.. you wouldn't even notice its custom rom until you check "My device" in settings...
-it comes with MIUI dialer which enables call recording... (which was kinda important for me)
-no ads.... all bloatware removed...
-some stock 'MI apps" (files/email/music/video app) can be disabled (I strongly suggest not to root uninstall them if you don't want issues with future updates)
-minimal preloaded google apps (can be installed from store if needed)
-can be updated easily with a dirty flash from what I read from the website
-also chances of having bugs are minimal since it's basically the same rom as stock miui rom
NOTE: first boot takes a while after flash...be patient....if its more than 15minutes...then its a bootloop. Mine took like 7minutes for initial boot; it will be laggy during the first hour of use as its processing stuff in background....but after that performance should be back to normal
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