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less Google in a ROM

hello.
I have a question. which is the custom ROM with less from Google? Thanks

I too have been looking into this for some time. Easiest method is Lineage OS with MicroG. Other more difficult options are:
Calyx OS - Mostly uses OP3/3T and 7/7T/7T Pro
Graphene OS
/E/ Project - although personally I would avoid
CopperheadOS - uses Pixel devices only - for future reference
Some options for email would be Tutanota (free account with limited storage but has calender and contact and email sync), or (more popular but I have my reservations) ProtonMail.
Another option is keep the rom you are using and flash (after full backup and sd card back up just in case) nanodroid.zip - see below links for ideas:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lenovo-p2/help/module-nanodroid-microg-pseudo-debloat-t3923478
or
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5t/how-to/guide-microg-deodex-signature-spoofing-t3862961

thanks again.
I just wanna ask you why will you avoid efoundation??
ozzmanj1 said:
I too have been looking into this for some time. Easiest method is Lineage OS with MicroG. Other more difficult options are:
Calyx OS - Mostly uses OP3/3T and 7/7T/7T Pro
Graphene OS
/E/ Project - although personally I would avoid
CopperheadOS - uses Pixel devices only - for future reference
Some options for email would be Tutanota (free account with limited storage but has calender and contact and email sync), or (more popular but I have my reservations) ProtonMail.
Another option is keep the rom you are using and flash (after full backup and sd card back up just in case) nanodroid.zip - see below links for ideas:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lenovo-p2/help/module-nanodroid-microg-pseudo-debloat-t3923478
or
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5t/how-to/guide-microg-deodex-signature-spoofing-t3862961
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[And I will like to know which ROM are for the ONEPLUS 6
QUOTE=pekas;83557313]thanks again.
I just wanna ask you why will you avoid efoundation??[/QUOTE]

pekas said:
[And I will like to know which ROM are for the ONEPLUS 6
QUOTE=pekas;83557313]thanks again.
I just wanna ask you why will you avoid efoundation??
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I am not saying /e/ foundation is bad, but I have read multiple places that state they are basically copying and pasting code with out giving props to whoever they are pulling sources from. Plus the 6 and 6T roms are very old, only on A9.

In my opinion they are copyng and pasting cause everything is open source and mostly free, so.
i dont understand the only on A9?
I am not saying /e/ foundation is bad, but I have read multiple places that state they are basically copying and pasting code with out giving props to whoever they are pulling sources from. Plus the 6 and 6T roms are very old, only on A9.[/QUOTE]

AAAHHH
you mean that their ROM is in Pie.... OOOkay, but it works I guess
anyway. Another custom ROM with the less possible of Google. Syberian that was my favourite I just find out that has so many things from Google, and the Havoc that I love to, has camera and maybe some other things from Google
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pekas said:
In my opinion they are copyng and pasting cause everything is open source and mostly free, so.
i dont understand the only on A9?
I am not saying /e/ foundation is bad, but I have read multiple places that state they are basically copying and pasting code with out giving props to whoever they are pulling sources from. Plus the 6 and 6T roms are very old, only on A9.
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Just use any rom that has signature spoofing and doesn't include gapps and install NanoDroid Micro G and Fdroid and use Fdroid for your app store instead of Google. If whatever rom you prefer doesn't have sig spoofing there an xda thread that tells how to add it.
AOSiP, Bliss, Corvus, Omni Micro G all have spoofing just to name a few.. And there are more. NanoDroid xda thread link is in second post of this thread. You get a lot better battery life without Google's services and all running 24/7.

Redmi 9a flashed with Treble GSI (stock android ROM) - just saying thanks

Hi everyone,
I've been away from the ROM scene for a few years and was pleasantly surprised to find out that even a MediaTek phone these days can be flashed with a ROM different from its original. With a lot of bumps and information from this thread and others, I was able to test the Lineage, Havoc, and Treble ROMs, flashing through adb commands on fastbootd on unsigned xiaomi drivers. The one with the best compatibility so far is an older ROM, the Treble 10 GSI bundled with go gapps. Treble 11, the latest, doesn't have a working "recent apps" button (multitasker/app switcher). I'm not using this phone as a camera phone, but I did install an older Gcam (Gcam 2.3, I think) by googling the phone's mediatek processor, Helio G25.
On stock android, I do feel like the phone is much improved from the MIUI OS's bloat. I feel that Xiaomi as of late is putting too much adware, a far cry from when I bought my first phone from them (A Redmi 1S).
I would like to thank everyone here for the recovery files, twrp, etc.

I'd love to know how you accomplished this, as an otherwise decent phone is, I feel, crippled by MIUI's ridiculous bloat.

Bludwurst said:
I'd love to know how you accomplished this, as an otherwise decent phone is, I feel, crippled by MIUI's ridiculous bloat.
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Hi @Bludwurst ... I'll see if I can write something semi-coherent about it. Please give me a few days. But the general method was pretty similar to flashing other treble-based ROMs, the important thing is that the phone boots into FASTBOOTD ("elevated" fastboot) and the rom you're flashing is the correct architecture with some Google Go apps (if you want it to be easier to set up). They update every few weeks, so depending on the progress, it may even be feasible to try out the other more popular ROMs. Lineage was 2nd best in my experience, and Android 11 to boot with its own recovery, but it doesn't come bundled with Google Go apps, you'll have to flash the Google apps yourself.
Major caveat about the treble GSI i'm using though -- the Gcam with HDR on has a chance of shutting down (exiting). It's less of an issue when the setting is off. I do have a separate primary camera phone so that wasn't an issue to me.
I've had the phone for about 3 weeks now. I think the biggest difference between this ROM and the MIUI OS is that the MIUI OS is very aggressive about killing my VPN (Ad blocker) and other background apps. With this Treble GSI (Android 10, not 11), I won't claim that my mediatek phone suddenly became a snapdragon, but there's no unexpected app-killing, which is very important for Blokada to stay alive.
**Has any other app crapped out (crashed/exited) since I changed ROMs?**
I don't run games on this phone, so I can't say if there's a difference between MIUI and Treble, but most of the productivity stuff is running okay (time tracker, markdown editor, pdf viewer, etc.) there IS some slowdown when running mobile youtube on my browser (yes, i don't run the youtube app... there may be an improvement if you're using a dedicated app.
I bought this phone as my work tracker phone. Before, with the MIUI stuff, it would stutter after a few apps were loaded. This is improved, but under heavy loads (10+ tabs, video playing), the phone is likely to complain.
**How's the battery life**
I bought this phone for the battery life, so I'd say I'm pretty satisfied on that front. The difference between the MIUI and the Treble GSI.... there's some small improvement with the Treble GSI. But it is (after a few weeks of use) not as much of a "battery boost" as I initially thought. Maybe this is because MIUI keeps killing background apps that now stay on? Can't tell.
**Any other issues**
I had to fix brightness and I think the headphone bug. I still have the commands somewhere, I'll dig it up.
Next, I am not sure if this phone will get security issues moving forward, or if i'll have to keep reflashing to a later GSI. I haven't checked if there's a way to sideload kernel security patches.
**Worth it to switch?**
Yeah, absolutely. Not having to reload apps is a huge deal, and not losing working data while typing helps. Tradeoff is camera hdr and security.

This all sounds very interesting.
I've admittedly not kept up with the Android scene (to call it something), so I'm a bit lost regarding Treble ROMs and such; I'll try to catch up a bit.
Take your time, I can wait.
(It goes without saying that, should I not like the results, I can always bail and reinstall an official Xiaomi ROM for this device, no?)
Yes, MIUI is extremely aggressive killing apps, and getting it to stop is rather confusing (it's not enough to turn off battery optimizations... You need to dig into Settings).
I managed to stop it from killing Netguard, at least...
I also don't play games or otherwise make extremely heavy use of the phone; I also don't care much for camera apps, so such disadvantages aren't dealbreakers for me.
Thank you for your reply

can you tell what gsi did you install? tkss

Luelu said:
can you tell what gsi did you install? tkss
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You should use arm32_binder64-ab variants for this device, and you should flash an image that is THE SAME ANDROID VERSION you currently have or 1 version above. Example if you have Android 11, Flash Android 11R version, if you have Android 10 only flash ANDROID 10Q versions, etc.
To find out what GSI image should you use, this app makes it easier, it recommends you which one to download. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=tk.hack5.treblecheck&hl=&gl=US --
#Another mirror:
https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/hacki...lease/treble-info-5-0-6-android-apk-download/
2 Years later, i made a guide on how to flash it , maybe it can be useful to you.
Xiaomi Redmi 9A 9i 9AT 10A
Notes about tinkering with Android Project Treble. Contribute to phhusson/treble_experimentations development by creating an account on GitHub.
github.com

s_code said:
Hi everyone,
I've been away from the ROM scene for a few years and was pleasantly surprised to find out that even a MediaTek phone these days can be flashed with a ROM different from its original. With a lot of bumps and information from this thread and others, I was able to test the Lineage, Havoc, and Treble ROMs, flashing through adb commands on fastbootd on unsigned xiaomi drivers. The one with the best compatibility so far is an older ROM, the Treble 10 GSI bundled with go gapps. Treble 11, the latest, doesn't have a working "recent apps" button (multitasker/app switcher). I'm not using this phone as a camera phone, but I did install an older Gcam (Gcam 2.3, I think) by googling the phone's mediatek processor, Helio G25.
On stock android, I do feel like the phone is much improved from the MIUI OS's bloat. I feel that Xiaomi as of late is putting too much adware, a far cry from when I bought my first phone from them (A Redmi 1S).
I would like to thank everyone here for the recovery files, twrp, etc.
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by the way can you share the links you used to download those roms? I wanna try em out too

Development [ROM][UNOFFICIAL] LineageOS 18.1 with microG, Android Auto (plus instructions to build your own image)

Disclaimer
Your warranty is now void. We are not responsible for bricked devices, lost data, broken sd cards, or failure for your device to preform some important function. You are choosing to make modifications to your own device, and accept all of the risks involved.
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LineageOS is a long standing android custom rom, derrived from AOSP with contributions from the community. By default, no google apps or frameworks are built into the rom.
microG is an open source, lightweight replacement for the proprietary google apps and frameworks. Maybe most importantly, it includes UnifiedNlp which provides wifi and cellular based geolocation which are necessary for location services apps to function properly.
This rom includes:
- fdroid & fdroid priviledge extension
- microG and sig spoofing patches to support it
Whats working:
everything, it seems
Whats not working:
nothing? Note that many camera apps don't support the camera cluster properly and instead just use one sensor. Instructions in the github repo are available to setup GCam which can use all of the sensors.
Please comment if you find something is not working properly.
Install Instructions:
https://github.com/SolidHal/lineageos-microg-oneplus-lemonade#install
Sources and Instructions to build your own images and custom recovery:
https://github.com/SolidHal/lineageos-microg-oneplus-lemonade#build
you can modify "build_lemonade.sh" to remove microG, AndroidAuto, etc if you like.
Download:
https://github.com/SolidHal/lineageos-microg-oneplus-lemonade/releases
Sources:
https://github.com/SolidHal/android-auto-stub
https://github.com/SolidHal/android_device_oneplus_lemonade
FAQ:
Q: Whats different from https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/rom-unofficial-lemonade-11-lineageos-18-1.4298845/ ?
A:
- fixed the camera cutout alignment (some fun math involved in drawing curves)
- aligned the status bar items with the camera cutout
- microG built in
- Android Auto support
Huge Thanks:
To andr01dfr3ak for the initial lemonade device tree.
To the folks in this thread about getting Android Auto working with microG: https://github.com/microg/GmsCore/issues/897 especially @dylangerdaly who figured out the Android Auto stub

Does stuttering still exist?​

amonstercattt said:
Does stuttering still exist?​
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I have yet to observe any stuttering, but I can't promise it doesn't exist. In what situations do you see it happen, and using what rom?

SolidHal said:
I have yet to observe any stuttering, but I can't promise it doesn't exist. In what situations do you see it happen, and using what rom?
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Even if I turn on 120Hz, there will still be the phenomenon of sliding out frames (lineage os).

amonstercattt said:
Even if I turn on 120Hz, there will still be the phenomenon of sliding out frames (lineage os).
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I'm sorry, what do you mean by "the phenomenon of sliding out frames"?
and are you saying that you observe phenomenon on this lineageos build, or other ones?

Awesome work, I'm interested in the development process and was wondering what keeps an unofficial ROM like this from becoming an official LineageOS build?

SolidHal said:
LineageOS is a long standing android custom rom, derrived from AOSP with contributions from the community. By default, no google apps or frameworks are built into the rom.
microG is an open source, lightweight replacement for the proprietary google apps and frameworks. Maybe most importantly, it includes UnifiedNlp which provides wifi and cellular based geolocation which are necessary for location services apps to function properly.
This rom includes:
- fdroid & fdroid priviledge extension
- microG and sig spoofing patches to support it
Whats working:
everything, it seems
Whats not working:
nothing? Note that many camera apps don't support the camera cluster properly and instead just use one sensor. Instructions in the github repo are available to setup GCam which can use all of the sensors.
Please comment if you find something is not working properly.
Install Instructions:
https://github.com/SolidHal/lineageos-microg-oneplus-lemonade#install
Sources and Instructions to build your own images and custom recovery:
https://github.com/SolidHal/lineageos-microg-oneplus-lemonade#build
you can modify "build_lemonade.sh" to remove microG, AndroidAuto, etc if you like.
Download:
https://github.com/SolidHal/lineageos-microg-oneplus-lemonade/releases
Sources:
https://github.com/SolidHal/android-auto-stub
https://github.com/SolidHal/android_device_oneplus_lemonade
FAQ:
Q: Whats different from https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/rom-unofficial-lemonade-11-lineageos-18-1.4298845/ ?
A:
- fixed the camera cutout alignment (some fun math involved in drawing curves)
- aligned the status bar items with the camera cutout
- microG built in
- Android Auto support
Huge Thanks:
To andr01dfr3ak for the initial lemonade device tree.
To the folks in this thread about getting Android Auto working with microG: https://github.com/microg/GmsCore/issues/897 especially @dylangerdaly who figured out the Android Auto stub
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I must say this is an awesome build. I have been away from this for awhile and this made it an easy return. I am going to switch phones. Any advice on how to get back to stock from this build?
Thank you

rulerofmydomain said:
I must say this is an awesome build. I have been away from this for awhile and this made it an easy return. I am going to switch phones. Any advice on how to get back to stock from this build?
Thank you
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Always best way is MSM. Don't doubt this build is excellent but I would recommend EvoX. Head to the thread and go into the TG for the latest build. Have fun

pocho dobo said:
Always best way is MSM. Don't doubt this build is excellent but I would recommend EvoX. Head to the thread and go into the TG for the latest build. Have fun
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Know of any good how to for MSM (don't know it )
Thank yo u

rulerofmydomain said:
Know of any good how to for MSM (don't know it )
Thank yo u
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Device specifics would be a good start to guide you in the right direction!

pocho dobo said:
Device specifics would be a good start to guide you in the right direction!
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Thank you
It is an Unlocked US OnePlus 9 8/128 Model LE2115

Stupid question about degoogling and custom roms.

I have one of these coming in the mail, I bought it used. I bought it only because it's the smallest modern device with lots of modding support, and I already downloaded the necessary tools to try out a bunch of roms. I am mostly interested in CalyxOS and Lineage, but I was wondering, is there some degoogled stock rom, or something else based on the stock Pixel rom with Google removed? Also what are some other custom roms without Google that I can try out? I'm mostly interested in something that is fast and customizable, I don't like Google but I also don't need something as hardened as GrapheneOS.

AFAIK there is no de-googled stock or even stock-ish ROM. The recent Google devices are extremely hard to de-google. Google integration goes into the software for the radios.
You can look at this thread on the e/os support forums for info on the Google Fi app still being in custom ROMs. (I'm tnadovada)
I tried Calyx and couldn't stand it. I don't need a ROM constantly nagging me about making plain phone calls being "insecure". I'm not going to pester my friends to use Signal.
You can try e/os it's based on Lineage, but uses the bliss launcher, which is very different from stock Android. You could put Trebuchet on top of e/os for a more stock-like experience.

The dev for SuperiorOS had compiled a version without gapps if I remember and was looking for someone to test it. You might get in touch with him.

i was using grapheneos on my pixel 3a, its good but i missed googles services so i went back to lineage with a few google services i use.
Its the camera i need most, you can use this to bypass (https://github.com/lukaspieper/Gcam-Services-Provider/) but i end up needing Lineage

Thank you for the replies. Eventually something happened with the shipping and I'm still waiting on my delicious 4A. I'll look into the roms you recommended and report back if needed. Thanks again.

Best Android 12 Rom So Far

Hi guys,
after almost 2 years with MIUI, Android 10 and Android 11 with MIUI 12.5, I would like to try a custom Android 12 rom before selling the device after the summer and buy something new.
As usual, there's a lot of custom roms. Even with A12. Onestly I would prefer to focus on a specific rom avoiding to try all the possibilities, this phone is my daily driver at the moment.
So I can see CrDroid, Evolution, Aosp, Voltage, Arrow... etc etc. Maybe seems a newbie question but which could be not a best rom but the first one to be tried ? Mainly I'm using the X3 to make call ( of course ), surf the web ( of course ), take photos to my children ( so the quality is very important for me ) and use it for GPS ( Mapy CZ and Here Maps ). With an eye on the battery duration...
Which A12 rom could be a good initial attempt ? Not so hard to be installed, I don't want to spend hours in bootloops or issues eheheh.

PYCON said:
Hi guys,
after almost 2 years with MIUI, Android 10 and Android 11 with MIUI 12.5, I would like to try a custom Android 12 rom before selling the device after the summer and buy something new.
As usual, there's a lot of custom roms. Even with A12. Onestly I would prefer to focus on a specific rom avoiding to try all the possibilities, this phone is my daily driver at the moment.
So I can see CrDroid, Evolution, Aosp, Voltage, Arrow... etc etc. Maybe seems a newbie question but which could be not a best rom but the first one to be tried ? Mainly I'm using the X3 to make call ( of course ), surf the web ( of course ), take photos to my children ( so the quality is very important for me ) and use it for GPS ( Mapy CZ and Here Maps ). With an eye on the battery duration...
Which A12 rom could be a good initial attempt ? Not so hard to be installed, I don't want to spend hours in bootloops or issues eheheh.
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If you want something stable with good long-time support, there's only Lineage, ArrowOS and maybe AospExtended
If you take lot of photos, ArrowOS offers you unlimited storage in Google Photos. In Lineage you can add that feature using a Magisk module.
I went with ArrowOS for the unlimited photo storage and a few pixel features.
I have found a phone app that automatically records all calls and a Gcam that makes great photos.
Everything is better than MIUI really

On other phones, I was happy using AOSP Ext and CrDroid. What about this last one? I can start trying Arrow maybe...

PYCON said:
On other phones, I was happy using AOSP Ext and CrDroid. What about this last one? I can start trying Arrow maybe...
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CrDroid should be good as well.
The developer made a break of 2 - 3 because he gave the phone to his wife but now it continues to receive regular updates.

Noter2017 said:
If you want something stable with good long-time support, there's only Lineage, ArrowOS and maybe AospExtended
If you take lot of photos, ArrowOS offers you unlimited storage in Google Photos. In Lineage you can add that feature using a Magisk module.
I went with ArrowOS for the unlimited photo storage and a few pixel features.
I have found a phone app that automatically records all calls and a Gcam that makes great photos.
Everything is better than MIUI really
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Could you provide the name of that phone app that records calls and gcam which makes great photos?
I am looking for exactly the same thing as the op. Right now on stock but it is so sloow

no1geek said:
Could you provide the name of that phone app that records calls and gcam which makes great photos?
I am looking for exactly the same thing as the op. Right now on stock but it is so sloow
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Here you go
Mod Edit: Link Removed
AOSP dialer has to be installed in Magisk.
GPay SQLiteFix is a fix to make Google pay work, has to be flashed in Magisk as well.
After installing Aspen (GCam mod) create a folder called ConfigsSettings8 on your phone's storage and paste the aspen2.xml there.
Start Aspen, double click on the black area of the screen and select aspen2.xml

@Noter2017: I'm curious here about your setup, so a few questions?
Is Bluetooth working alright with external audio devices?
Does GPS work reliably?
Is general wireless connectivity stable?
Can advanced reboot be enabled easily?
Is button navigation possible and can buttons be reversed?
I see you have Magisk, so no questions about rooting...

pnin said:
@Noter2017: I'm curious here about your setup, so a few questions?
Is Bluetooth working alright with external audio devices?
Does GPS work reliably?
Is general wireless connectivity stable?
Can advanced reboot be enabled easily?
Is button navigation possible and can buttons be reversed?
I see you have Magisk, so no questions about rooting...
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1) Bluetooth works fine for me. I use it with my Mi Band and a portable speaker. Personally I never had problems with Bluetooth, no matter which ROM I used.
2) I use GPS on a daily basis and it also works.
3) Works. With a speedtest get 400 Mbps on my 5 GHz WiFi at home (1 Gbps cable).
4) Can be enabled in Settings - Gestures
5) I use button navigation and didn't face any problems. You can revert the layout in Settings - Gestures - System navigation
Only problem I face after moving to ArrowOS 12.1 was that some backups made with Migrate didn't work. A few apps would crash immediately (Tailscale, for example) after starting (had to clear storage), my taxi app asked to verify my credit card again which didn't work. Had to remove and add the same card again.
Also customization is pretty much absent which might be a problem for some people.
I had a long free weekend, so I decided to spend a few hours upgrading. If the ArrowOS wouldn't have worked reliably, I would have changed ROMs to something else. ArrowOS 12 is EOL and I will stick with ArrowOS 12.1 till the end of the year. Really getting too old to do clean flashes all the time

I think CrDroid 12 (8.4) is superior. I use it with ANXcamera and Magisk