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G930F Exynos/herolte: LinOS 14.1 microG ROM or another 8/9 based ROM?

I have no experience with this device and have it not here to test. Want to maybe install a Custom ROM for a friend to get away from a "destroyed" Stock. So I need to be sure if I want to do that, since I can not test around with the device.
My main question is if I should go with lineage-14.1-20190302-microG-herolte.zip (camera performance?) or because of better camera performance, stability, speed and long autonomy go with another ROM based on 8/9 (maybe MicroG also possible to install there)?
Bluetooth support/stability is certainly important (car, home stereo) as well as usage of apps like WhatsApp, Facebook, Instagram and Signal. For E-Mail, Calendar, Addresses I think we could switch to Google Alternatives as well as as to FOSS/F-Droid Alternatives for others. Not sure if the friend needs Google Maps - would install OSMAnd.
Any experience and advise welcome. Thanks a lot.

ChriMo said:
I have no experience with this device and have it not here to test. Want to maybe install a Custom ROM for a friend to get away from a "destroyed" Stock. So I need to be sure if I want to do that, since I can not test around with the device.
My main question is if I should go with lineage-14.1-20190302-microG-herolte.zip (camera performance?) or because of better camera performance, stability, speed and long autonomy go with another ROM based on 8/9 (maybe MicroG also possible to install there)?
Bluetooth support/stability is certainly important (car, home stereo) as well as usage of apps like WhatsApp, Facebook, Instagram and Signal. For E-Mail, Calendar, Addresses I think we could switch to Google Alternatives as well as as to FOSS/F-Droid Alternatives for others. Not sure if the friend needs Google Maps - would install OSMAnd.
Any experience and advise welcome. Thanks a lot.
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I can tell you from my own experience it is much faster with lineage rom and you will have much more storage and ram avaible than the stock rom. By the way if you decide to install lineage knox will not work anymore and microg would be possible to install

It may also be worth considering the unofficial ports in these forums, they're built off the LOS nightly releases but given more special attention.

Beanvee7 said:
It may also be worth considering the unofficial ports in these forums, they're built off the LOS nightly releases but given more special attention.
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Ok, but since it is not my device (can not test ROMs) and I seek support-free daily driving I'm not ready to take the risk of unofficial ports as well as they might work, unless experienced users comment here comparing current well supported ports directly to official LinOS 14.1 (microG) builds. As far as I can see the only official Pie 9.0 ROM is Resurrection Remix v7.0 from 20190310; but MicroG is not supported and deodexing services.jar for NanoDroid MicroG install seems too complex for this case. If it would be my device I would try, no problem then.

ChriMo said:
Ok, but since it is not my device (can not test ROMs) and I seek support-free daily driving I'm not ready to take the risk of unofficial ports as well as they might work, unless experienced users comment here comparing current well supported ports directly to official LinOS 14.1 (microG) builds. As far as I can see the only official Pie 9.0 ROM is Resurrection Remix v7.0 from 20190310; but MicroG is not supported and deodexing services.jar for NanoDroid MicroG install seems too complex for this case. If it would be my device I would try, no problem then.
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That's part of why I was recommending unofficial, as far as I'm aware the official LineageOS builds are nightly, which is technically non-stable branch. Unofficial ports aim to be 'stable' quality.
Either way you probably won't get a support free OS out of LineageOS. There's always oddities, although usually small.

Beanvee7 said:
That's part of why I was recommending unofficial, as far as I'm aware the official LineageOS builds are nightly, which is technically non-stable branch. Unofficial ports aim to be 'stable' quality.
Either way you probably won't get a support free OS out of LineageOS. There's always oddities, although usually small.
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Thank you for explaining. Small oddities should be fine, at least I hope since I never used TouchWiz (immediately installed LinOS on a S5m) and do not know how easy it is for a Samsung user to come to the AOSP/LinOS World.
I probably would go with a PIE MicroG supporting ROM like AospExtended 6.3, HavocOS 2.2 or crDroid 5.1 if any of them would be official like Resurrection Remix v7. I know it is not a quality distinction per se, but without some experience it gives a little more confidence to at least currently have something cared for.
LineageOS 16 because necessity of deodexing etc. is not a candidate for me.

Hopefully in the next days I can try the migration. I will try in this order: HavocOS 2.2 (no experience) > AospExtended 6.3 > LineageOS 15.1 microG

Privacy on Pixel 3 - getting rid of Google

So, I have a Pixel 3 which I bought hoping that sooner rather than later I would be able to install a custom ROM and have a Google-free device.
As I'm new to flashing ROMs etc, some questions are in order:
1. I've been searching the XDA forums and it seems there aren't yet that many ROMs for my device. Any recommendations? Everybody says Lineage is a stable ROM, but as of now there's only an unofficial build. What are the issues of going for the unofficial? Should I just wait for the official or try another ROM?
2. I'd like to, if possible, not install GApps. Would microG enable me to: (a) use my bank's app? (b) be able to remotely lock and/or wipe my device in case it gets lost or stolen?
I think that's all for now. I had not used Android since 2012 and though I'm enjoying the control I have over my device and availability of FOSS apps, the privacy implications of this close relationship with Google is really bugging me.
Thank you for any help and clarifications you can offer.

Redmi 9a flashed with Treble GSI (stock android ROM) - just saying thanks

Hi everyone,
I've been away from the ROM scene for a few years and was pleasantly surprised to find out that even a MediaTek phone these days can be flashed with a ROM different from its original. With a lot of bumps and information from this thread and others, I was able to test the Lineage, Havoc, and Treble ROMs, flashing through adb commands on fastbootd on unsigned xiaomi drivers. The one with the best compatibility so far is an older ROM, the Treble 10 GSI bundled with go gapps. Treble 11, the latest, doesn't have a working "recent apps" button (multitasker/app switcher). I'm not using this phone as a camera phone, but I did install an older Gcam (Gcam 2.3, I think) by googling the phone's mediatek processor, Helio G25.
On stock android, I do feel like the phone is much improved from the MIUI OS's bloat. I feel that Xiaomi as of late is putting too much adware, a far cry from when I bought my first phone from them (A Redmi 1S).
I would like to thank everyone here for the recovery files, twrp, etc.

I'd love to know how you accomplished this, as an otherwise decent phone is, I feel, crippled by MIUI's ridiculous bloat.

Bludwurst said:
I'd love to know how you accomplished this, as an otherwise decent phone is, I feel, crippled by MIUI's ridiculous bloat.
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Hi @Bludwurst ... I'll see if I can write something semi-coherent about it. Please give me a few days. But the general method was pretty similar to flashing other treble-based ROMs, the important thing is that the phone boots into FASTBOOTD ("elevated" fastboot) and the rom you're flashing is the correct architecture with some Google Go apps (if you want it to be easier to set up). They update every few weeks, so depending on the progress, it may even be feasible to try out the other more popular ROMs. Lineage was 2nd best in my experience, and Android 11 to boot with its own recovery, but it doesn't come bundled with Google Go apps, you'll have to flash the Google apps yourself.
Major caveat about the treble GSI i'm using though -- the Gcam with HDR on has a chance of shutting down (exiting). It's less of an issue when the setting is off. I do have a separate primary camera phone so that wasn't an issue to me.
I've had the phone for about 3 weeks now. I think the biggest difference between this ROM and the MIUI OS is that the MIUI OS is very aggressive about killing my VPN (Ad blocker) and other background apps. With this Treble GSI (Android 10, not 11), I won't claim that my mediatek phone suddenly became a snapdragon, but there's no unexpected app-killing, which is very important for Blokada to stay alive.
**Has any other app crapped out (crashed/exited) since I changed ROMs?**
I don't run games on this phone, so I can't say if there's a difference between MIUI and Treble, but most of the productivity stuff is running okay (time tracker, markdown editor, pdf viewer, etc.) there IS some slowdown when running mobile youtube on my browser (yes, i don't run the youtube app... there may be an improvement if you're using a dedicated app.
I bought this phone as my work tracker phone. Before, with the MIUI stuff, it would stutter after a few apps were loaded. This is improved, but under heavy loads (10+ tabs, video playing), the phone is likely to complain.
**How's the battery life**
I bought this phone for the battery life, so I'd say I'm pretty satisfied on that front. The difference between the MIUI and the Treble GSI.... there's some small improvement with the Treble GSI. But it is (after a few weeks of use) not as much of a "battery boost" as I initially thought. Maybe this is because MIUI keeps killing background apps that now stay on? Can't tell.
**Any other issues**
I had to fix brightness and I think the headphone bug. I still have the commands somewhere, I'll dig it up.
Next, I am not sure if this phone will get security issues moving forward, or if i'll have to keep reflashing to a later GSI. I haven't checked if there's a way to sideload kernel security patches.
**Worth it to switch?**
Yeah, absolutely. Not having to reload apps is a huge deal, and not losing working data while typing helps. Tradeoff is camera hdr and security.

This all sounds very interesting.
I've admittedly not kept up with the Android scene (to call it something), so I'm a bit lost regarding Treble ROMs and such; I'll try to catch up a bit.
Take your time, I can wait.
(It goes without saying that, should I not like the results, I can always bail and reinstall an official Xiaomi ROM for this device, no?)
Yes, MIUI is extremely aggressive killing apps, and getting it to stop is rather confusing (it's not enough to turn off battery optimizations... You need to dig into Settings).
I managed to stop it from killing Netguard, at least...
I also don't play games or otherwise make extremely heavy use of the phone; I also don't care much for camera apps, so such disadvantages aren't dealbreakers for me.
Thank you for your reply

can you tell what gsi did you install? tkss

Luelu said:
can you tell what gsi did you install? tkss
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You should use arm32_binder64-ab variants for this device, and you should flash an image that is THE SAME ANDROID VERSION you currently have or 1 version above. Example if you have Android 11, Flash Android 11R version, if you have Android 10 only flash ANDROID 10Q versions, etc.
To find out what GSI image should you use, this app makes it easier, it recommends you which one to download. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=tk.hack5.treblecheck&hl=&gl=US --
#Another mirror:
https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/hacki...lease/treble-info-5-0-6-android-apk-download/
2 Years later, i made a guide on how to flash it , maybe it can be useful to you.
Xiaomi Redmi 9A 9i 9AT 10A
Notes about tinkering with Android Project Treble. Contribute to phhusson/treble_experimentations development by creating an account on GitHub.
github.com

s_code said:
Hi everyone,
I've been away from the ROM scene for a few years and was pleasantly surprised to find out that even a MediaTek phone these days can be flashed with a ROM different from its original. With a lot of bumps and information from this thread and others, I was able to test the Lineage, Havoc, and Treble ROMs, flashing through adb commands on fastbootd on unsigned xiaomi drivers. The one with the best compatibility so far is an older ROM, the Treble 10 GSI bundled with go gapps. Treble 11, the latest, doesn't have a working "recent apps" button (multitasker/app switcher). I'm not using this phone as a camera phone, but I did install an older Gcam (Gcam 2.3, I think) by googling the phone's mediatek processor, Helio G25.
On stock android, I do feel like the phone is much improved from the MIUI OS's bloat. I feel that Xiaomi as of late is putting too much adware, a far cry from when I bought my first phone from them (A Redmi 1S).
I would like to thank everyone here for the recovery files, twrp, etc.
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by the way can you share the links you used to download those roms? I wanna try em out too

Development [ROM][UNOFFICIAL] LineageOS 18.1 with microG, Android Auto (plus instructions to build your own image)

Disclaimer
Your warranty is now void. We are not responsible for bricked devices, lost data, broken sd cards, or failure for your device to preform some important function. You are choosing to make modifications to your own device, and accept all of the risks involved.
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LineageOS is a long standing android custom rom, derrived from AOSP with contributions from the community. By default, no google apps or frameworks are built into the rom.
microG is an open source, lightweight replacement for the proprietary google apps and frameworks. Maybe most importantly, it includes UnifiedNlp which provides wifi and cellular based geolocation which are necessary for location services apps to function properly.
This rom includes:
- fdroid & fdroid priviledge extension
- microG and sig spoofing patches to support it
Whats working:
everything, it seems
Whats not working:
nothing? Note that many camera apps don't support the camera cluster properly and instead just use one sensor. Instructions in the github repo are available to setup GCam which can use all of the sensors.
Please comment if you find something is not working properly.
Install Instructions:
https://github.com/SolidHal/lineageos-microg-oneplus-lemonade#install
Sources and Instructions to build your own images and custom recovery:
https://github.com/SolidHal/lineageos-microg-oneplus-lemonade#build
you can modify "build_lemonade.sh" to remove microG, AndroidAuto, etc if you like.
Download:
https://github.com/SolidHal/lineageos-microg-oneplus-lemonade/releases
Sources:
https://github.com/SolidHal/android-auto-stub
https://github.com/SolidHal/android_device_oneplus_lemonade
FAQ:
Q: Whats different from https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/rom-unofficial-lemonade-11-lineageos-18-1.4298845/ ?
A:
- fixed the camera cutout alignment (some fun math involved in drawing curves)
- aligned the status bar items with the camera cutout
- microG built in
- Android Auto support
Huge Thanks:
To andr01dfr3ak for the initial lemonade device tree.
To the folks in this thread about getting Android Auto working with microG: https://github.com/microg/GmsCore/issues/897 especially @dylangerdaly who figured out the Android Auto stub

Does stuttering still exist?​

amonstercattt said:
Does stuttering still exist?​
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I have yet to observe any stuttering, but I can't promise it doesn't exist. In what situations do you see it happen, and using what rom?

SolidHal said:
I have yet to observe any stuttering, but I can't promise it doesn't exist. In what situations do you see it happen, and using what rom?
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Even if I turn on 120Hz, there will still be the phenomenon of sliding out frames (lineage os).

amonstercattt said:
Even if I turn on 120Hz, there will still be the phenomenon of sliding out frames (lineage os).
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I'm sorry, what do you mean by "the phenomenon of sliding out frames"?
and are you saying that you observe phenomenon on this lineageos build, or other ones?

Awesome work, I'm interested in the development process and was wondering what keeps an unofficial ROM like this from becoming an official LineageOS build?

SolidHal said:
LineageOS is a long standing android custom rom, derrived from AOSP with contributions from the community. By default, no google apps or frameworks are built into the rom.
microG is an open source, lightweight replacement for the proprietary google apps and frameworks. Maybe most importantly, it includes UnifiedNlp which provides wifi and cellular based geolocation which are necessary for location services apps to function properly.
This rom includes:
- fdroid & fdroid priviledge extension
- microG and sig spoofing patches to support it
Whats working:
everything, it seems
Whats not working:
nothing? Note that many camera apps don't support the camera cluster properly and instead just use one sensor. Instructions in the github repo are available to setup GCam which can use all of the sensors.
Please comment if you find something is not working properly.
Install Instructions:
https://github.com/SolidHal/lineageos-microg-oneplus-lemonade#install
Sources and Instructions to build your own images and custom recovery:
https://github.com/SolidHal/lineageos-microg-oneplus-lemonade#build
you can modify "build_lemonade.sh" to remove microG, AndroidAuto, etc if you like.
Download:
https://github.com/SolidHal/lineageos-microg-oneplus-lemonade/releases
Sources:
https://github.com/SolidHal/android-auto-stub
https://github.com/SolidHal/android_device_oneplus_lemonade
FAQ:
Q: Whats different from https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/rom-unofficial-lemonade-11-lineageos-18-1.4298845/ ?
A:
- fixed the camera cutout alignment (some fun math involved in drawing curves)
- aligned the status bar items with the camera cutout
- microG built in
- Android Auto support
Huge Thanks:
To andr01dfr3ak for the initial lemonade device tree.
To the folks in this thread about getting Android Auto working with microG: https://github.com/microg/GmsCore/issues/897 especially @dylangerdaly who figured out the Android Auto stub
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I must say this is an awesome build. I have been away from this for awhile and this made it an easy return. I am going to switch phones. Any advice on how to get back to stock from this build?
Thank you

rulerofmydomain said:
I must say this is an awesome build. I have been away from this for awhile and this made it an easy return. I am going to switch phones. Any advice on how to get back to stock from this build?
Thank you
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Always best way is MSM. Don't doubt this build is excellent but I would recommend EvoX. Head to the thread and go into the TG for the latest build. Have fun

pocho dobo said:
Always best way is MSM. Don't doubt this build is excellent but I would recommend EvoX. Head to the thread and go into the TG for the latest build. Have fun
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Know of any good how to for MSM (don't know it )
Thank yo u

rulerofmydomain said:
Know of any good how to for MSM (don't know it )
Thank yo u
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Device specifics would be a good start to guide you in the right direction!

pocho dobo said:
Device specifics would be a good start to guide you in the right direction!
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Thank you
It is an Unlocked US OnePlus 9 8/128 Model LE2115

Stupid question about degoogling and custom roms.

I have one of these coming in the mail, I bought it used. I bought it only because it's the smallest modern device with lots of modding support, and I already downloaded the necessary tools to try out a bunch of roms. I am mostly interested in CalyxOS and Lineage, but I was wondering, is there some degoogled stock rom, or something else based on the stock Pixel rom with Google removed? Also what are some other custom roms without Google that I can try out? I'm mostly interested in something that is fast and customizable, I don't like Google but I also don't need something as hardened as GrapheneOS.

AFAIK there is no de-googled stock or even stock-ish ROM. The recent Google devices are extremely hard to de-google. Google integration goes into the software for the radios.
You can look at this thread on the e/os support forums for info on the Google Fi app still being in custom ROMs. (I'm tnadovada)
I tried Calyx and couldn't stand it. I don't need a ROM constantly nagging me about making plain phone calls being "insecure". I'm not going to pester my friends to use Signal.
You can try e/os it's based on Lineage, but uses the bliss launcher, which is very different from stock Android. You could put Trebuchet on top of e/os for a more stock-like experience.

The dev for SuperiorOS had compiled a version without gapps if I remember and was looking for someone to test it. You might get in touch with him.

i was using grapheneos on my pixel 3a, its good but i missed googles services so i went back to lineage with a few google services i use.
Its the camera i need most, you can use this to bypass (https://github.com/lukaspieper/Gcam-Services-Provider/) but i end up needing Lineage

Thank you for the replies. Eventually something happened with the shipping and I'm still waiting on my delicious 4A. I'll look into the roms you recommended and report back if needed. Thanks again.