I have one of these coming in the mail, I bought it used. I bought it only because it's the smallest modern device with lots of modding support, and I already downloaded the necessary tools to try out a bunch of roms. I am mostly interested in CalyxOS and Lineage, but I was wondering, is there some degoogled stock rom, or something else based on the stock Pixel rom with Google removed? Also what are some other custom roms without Google that I can try out? I'm mostly interested in something that is fast and customizable, I don't like Google but I also don't need something as hardened as GrapheneOS.
AFAIK there is no de-googled stock or even stock-ish ROM. The recent Google devices are extremely hard to de-google. Google integration goes into the software for the radios.
You can look at this thread on the e/os support forums for info on the Google Fi app still being in custom ROMs. (I'm tnadovada)
I tried Calyx and couldn't stand it. I don't need a ROM constantly nagging me about making plain phone calls being "insecure". I'm not going to pester my friends to use Signal.
You can try e/os it's based on Lineage, but uses the bliss launcher, which is very different from stock Android. You could put Trebuchet on top of e/os for a more stock-like experience.
The dev for SuperiorOS had compiled a version without gapps if I remember and was looking for someone to test it. You might get in touch with him.
i was using grapheneos on my pixel 3a, its good but i missed googles services so i went back to lineage with a few google services i use.
Its the camera i need most, you can use this to bypass (https://github.com/lukaspieper/Gcam-Services-Provider/) but i end up needing Lineage
Thank you for the replies. Eventually something happened with the shipping and I'm still waiting on my delicious 4A. I'll look into the roms you recommended and report back if needed. Thanks again.
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hello,
It may have been already posted, but i would like to put on my GT3110 a simple & stable ROM without any additional SAMSUNG layer or any other modification.
i've tested the ROM provided by default, very slow and too much stuff that i don't want in it.
i've then tested the CyanogenMod 10 nighlty build, but the Keyboard wasn't working even after having done the clean as recommended on the web.
i've then tested the ROM RomsWell but it contains the SAMSUNG layer.
i'm now using the Paranoid Android 2.51 but the paranoidSettings seems to modify the resolution of the tablet and icons are not positionned correctly when moving from landscape to portrait.
i don't forget how big the work done by all these people providing this for free mainly, but as this tablet is dedicated for a gift to someone not android addict nor interesting in changing ROMs regularly,
So i would like to implement a Google stock ROM with nothing more/less than what is provided by google. even if i loose some performances or other things.
can you tell me where i can find this for the GT3110?
thank you in advance
If you install a launcher like Nova Launcher Prime, you'll find much of the Samsung layer gone. Some of the Samsung apps are superior. Email, Contacts and Planner come to mind. I would call the system easy for unsophisticated users and reliable as well. There plenty of help and a real user manual.
I've been flashing roms for years now and decided to stay with a rooted SGT27. Custom roms, even AOSP aren't that easy to use and there are always bugs.
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king200 said:
If you install a launcher like Nova Launcher Prime, you'll find much of the Samsung layer gone. Some of the Samsung apps are superior. Email, Contacts and Planner come to mind. I would call the system easy for unsophisticated users and reliable as well. There plenty of help and a real user manual.
I've been flashing roms for years now and decided to stay with a rooted SGT27. Custom roms, even AOSP aren't that easy to use and there are always bugs.
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If you (or the person its for ) isnt into modding Android, stick to stock. I use Apex launcher (Free) and to be honest they are all pretty much the same. Touchwiz isnt that bad and Samsung stock apps are really cool.
I would suggest updating it to JellyBean stock via Odin/Heimdall or just wait for the official update via Samsung.I personally use AOKP M1 but its a little confusing to set things up at first and needs tweaking.NOT noob friendly at all and takes time to work it out. ( but that's why I like it).
I would be careful giving "Root" access to inexperienced users as they may get themselves into trouble with it....Remember it gives them full access and control of the ROM. I would suggest a start up manager either way ,to stop all the junk starting up when you boot. Samsung loves bloat lol.
If you want pure Android, flash an AOSP no frills ROM.
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hello,
It may have been already posted, but i would like to put on my GT3110 a simple & stable ROM without any additional SAMSUNG layer or any other modification.
i've tested the ROM provided by default, very slow and too much stuff that i don't want in it.
i've then tested the CyanogenMod 10 nighlty build, but the Keyboard wasn't working even after having done the clean as recommended on the web.
i've then tested the ROM RomsWell but it contains the SAMSUNG layer.
ican you tell me where i can find this for the GT3110?
thank you in advance
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This does not exist, in fact it does not exist for any device. Stop dreaming of the mythical "clean" ROM that is 10x faster. There is a lot more to a functioning ROM than Google open source Android. There is no such thing as a pure AOSP ROM for any device because its takes Android + kernel + drivers + libs + apps + bootloader + etc. to have a functioning ROM. and everything except the base Android API is device and version specific.
The Samsung touchwiz launcher doesn't slow anything down and if you don't like the way it looks, as suggested above, install one of the good third party launchers and its not even used.
I find this tablet running the Samsung stock ICS to be very fast and clean, So one would wonder what are you doing to it to make it "slow" There's only a few Samsung apps included and unless you run them, they just sit there doing nothing. You can hide them if you don't want to see the icons.
thank you guys,
i'll try the JellyBean standard ROM as recommended and try another free launcher
I have no experience with this device and have it not here to test. Want to maybe install a Custom ROM for a friend to get away from a "destroyed" Stock. So I need to be sure if I want to do that, since I can not test around with the device.
My main question is if I should go with lineage-14.1-20190302-microG-herolte.zip (camera performance?) or because of better camera performance, stability, speed and long autonomy go with another ROM based on 8/9 (maybe MicroG also possible to install there)?
Bluetooth support/stability is certainly important (car, home stereo) as well as usage of apps like WhatsApp, Facebook, Instagram and Signal. For E-Mail, Calendar, Addresses I think we could switch to Google Alternatives as well as as to FOSS/F-Droid Alternatives for others. Not sure if the friend needs Google Maps - would install OSMAnd.
Any experience and advise welcome. Thanks a lot.
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I have no experience with this device and have it not here to test. Want to maybe install a Custom ROM for a friend to get away from a "destroyed" Stock. So I need to be sure if I want to do that, since I can not test around with the device.
My main question is if I should go with lineage-14.1-20190302-microG-herolte.zip (camera performance?) or because of better camera performance, stability, speed and long autonomy go with another ROM based on 8/9 (maybe MicroG also possible to install there)?
Bluetooth support/stability is certainly important (car, home stereo) as well as usage of apps like WhatsApp, Facebook, Instagram and Signal. For E-Mail, Calendar, Addresses I think we could switch to Google Alternatives as well as as to FOSS/F-Droid Alternatives for others. Not sure if the friend needs Google Maps - would install OSMAnd.
Any experience and advise welcome. Thanks a lot.
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I can tell you from my own experience it is much faster with lineage rom and you will have much more storage and ram avaible than the stock rom. By the way if you decide to install lineage knox will not work anymore and microg would be possible to install
It may also be worth considering the unofficial ports in these forums, they're built off the LOS nightly releases but given more special attention.
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It may also be worth considering the unofficial ports in these forums, they're built off the LOS nightly releases but given more special attention.
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Ok, but since it is not my device (can not test ROMs) and I seek support-free daily driving I'm not ready to take the risk of unofficial ports as well as they might work, unless experienced users comment here comparing current well supported ports directly to official LinOS 14.1 (microG) builds. As far as I can see the only official Pie 9.0 ROM is Resurrection Remix v7.0 from 20190310; but MicroG is not supported and deodexing services.jar for NanoDroid MicroG install seems too complex for this case. If it would be my device I would try, no problem then.
ChriMo said:
Ok, but since it is not my device (can not test ROMs) and I seek support-free daily driving I'm not ready to take the risk of unofficial ports as well as they might work, unless experienced users comment here comparing current well supported ports directly to official LinOS 14.1 (microG) builds. As far as I can see the only official Pie 9.0 ROM is Resurrection Remix v7.0 from 20190310; but MicroG is not supported and deodexing services.jar for NanoDroid MicroG install seems too complex for this case. If it would be my device I would try, no problem then.
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That's part of why I was recommending unofficial, as far as I'm aware the official LineageOS builds are nightly, which is technically non-stable branch. Unofficial ports aim to be 'stable' quality.
Either way you probably won't get a support free OS out of LineageOS. There's always oddities, although usually small.
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That's part of why I was recommending unofficial, as far as I'm aware the official LineageOS builds are nightly, which is technically non-stable branch. Unofficial ports aim to be 'stable' quality.
Either way you probably won't get a support free OS out of LineageOS. There's always oddities, although usually small.
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Thank you for explaining. Small oddities should be fine, at least I hope since I never used TouchWiz (immediately installed LinOS on a S5m) and do not know how easy it is for a Samsung user to come to the AOSP/LinOS World.
I probably would go with a PIE MicroG supporting ROM like AospExtended 6.3, HavocOS 2.2 or crDroid 5.1 if any of them would be official like Resurrection Remix v7. I know it is not a quality distinction per se, but without some experience it gives a little more confidence to at least currently have something cared for.
LineageOS 16 because necessity of deodexing etc. is not a candidate for me.
Hopefully in the next days I can try the migration. I will try in this order: HavocOS 2.2 (no experience) > AospExtended 6.3 > LineageOS 15.1 microG
So, I have a Pixel 3 which I bought hoping that sooner rather than later I would be able to install a custom ROM and have a Google-free device.
As I'm new to flashing ROMs etc, some questions are in order:
1. I've been searching the XDA forums and it seems there aren't yet that many ROMs for my device. Any recommendations? Everybody says Lineage is a stable ROM, but as of now there's only an unofficial build. What are the issues of going for the unofficial? Should I just wait for the official or try another ROM?
2. I'd like to, if possible, not install GApps. Would microG enable me to: (a) use my bank's app? (b) be able to remotely lock and/or wipe my device in case it gets lost or stolen?
I think that's all for now. I had not used Android since 2012 and though I'm enjoying the control I have over my device and availability of FOSS apps, the privacy implications of this close relationship with Google is really bugging me.
Thank you for any help and clarifications you can offer.
hello.
I have a question. which is the custom ROM with less from Google? Thanks
I too have been looking into this for some time. Easiest method is Lineage OS with MicroG. Other more difficult options are:
Calyx OS - Mostly uses OP3/3T and 7/7T/7T Pro
Graphene OS
/E/ Project - although personally I would avoid
CopperheadOS - uses Pixel devices only - for future reference
Some options for email would be Tutanota (free account with limited storage but has calender and contact and email sync), or (more popular but I have my reservations) ProtonMail.
Another option is keep the rom you are using and flash (after full backup and sd card back up just in case) nanodroid.zip - see below links for ideas:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lenovo-p2/help/module-nanodroid-microg-pseudo-debloat-t3923478
or
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5t/how-to/guide-microg-deodex-signature-spoofing-t3862961
thanks again.
I just wanna ask you why will you avoid efoundation??
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I too have been looking into this for some time. Easiest method is Lineage OS with MicroG. Other more difficult options are:
Calyx OS - Mostly uses OP3/3T and 7/7T/7T Pro
Graphene OS
/E/ Project - although personally I would avoid
CopperheadOS - uses Pixel devices only - for future reference
Some options for email would be Tutanota (free account with limited storage but has calender and contact and email sync), or (more popular but I have my reservations) ProtonMail.
Another option is keep the rom you are using and flash (after full backup and sd card back up just in case) nanodroid.zip - see below links for ideas:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lenovo-p2/help/module-nanodroid-microg-pseudo-debloat-t3923478
or
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5t/how-to/guide-microg-deodex-signature-spoofing-t3862961
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[And I will like to know which ROM are for the ONEPLUS 6
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I just wanna ask you why will you avoid efoundation??[/QUOTE]
pekas said:
[And I will like to know which ROM are for the ONEPLUS 6
QUOTE=pekas;83557313]thanks again.
I just wanna ask you why will you avoid efoundation??
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I am not saying /e/ foundation is bad, but I have read multiple places that state they are basically copying and pasting code with out giving props to whoever they are pulling sources from. Plus the 6 and 6T roms are very old, only on A9.
In my opinion they are copyng and pasting cause everything is open source and mostly free, so.
i dont understand the only on A9?
I am not saying /e/ foundation is bad, but I have read multiple places that state they are basically copying and pasting code with out giving props to whoever they are pulling sources from. Plus the 6 and 6T roms are very old, only on A9.[/QUOTE]
AAAHHH
you mean that their ROM is in Pie.... OOOkay, but it works I guess
anyway. Another custom ROM with the less possible of Google. Syberian that was my favourite I just find out that has so many things from Google, and the Havoc that I love to, has camera and maybe some other things from Google
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In my opinion they are copyng and pasting cause everything is open source and mostly free, so.
i dont understand the only on A9?
I am not saying /e/ foundation is bad, but I have read multiple places that state they are basically copying and pasting code with out giving props to whoever they are pulling sources from. Plus the 6 and 6T roms are very old, only on A9.
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Just use any rom that has signature spoofing and doesn't include gapps and install NanoDroid Micro G and Fdroid and use Fdroid for your app store instead of Google. If whatever rom you prefer doesn't have sig spoofing there an xda thread that tells how to add it.
AOSiP, Bliss, Corvus, Omni Micro G all have spoofing just to name a few.. And there are more. NanoDroid xda thread link is in second post of this thread. You get a lot better battery life without Google's services and all running 24/7.
Hi everyone,
I've been away from the ROM scene for a few years and was pleasantly surprised to find out that even a MediaTek phone these days can be flashed with a ROM different from its original. With a lot of bumps and information from this thread and others, I was able to test the Lineage, Havoc, and Treble ROMs, flashing through adb commands on fastbootd on unsigned xiaomi drivers. The one with the best compatibility so far is an older ROM, the Treble 10 GSI bundled with go gapps. Treble 11, the latest, doesn't have a working "recent apps" button (multitasker/app switcher). I'm not using this phone as a camera phone, but I did install an older Gcam (Gcam 2.3, I think) by googling the phone's mediatek processor, Helio G25.
On stock android, I do feel like the phone is much improved from the MIUI OS's bloat. I feel that Xiaomi as of late is putting too much adware, a far cry from when I bought my first phone from them (A Redmi 1S).
I would like to thank everyone here for the recovery files, twrp, etc.
I'd love to know how you accomplished this, as an otherwise decent phone is, I feel, crippled by MIUI's ridiculous bloat.
Bludwurst said:
I'd love to know how you accomplished this, as an otherwise decent phone is, I feel, crippled by MIUI's ridiculous bloat.
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Hi @Bludwurst ... I'll see if I can write something semi-coherent about it. Please give me a few days. But the general method was pretty similar to flashing other treble-based ROMs, the important thing is that the phone boots into FASTBOOTD ("elevated" fastboot) and the rom you're flashing is the correct architecture with some Google Go apps (if you want it to be easier to set up). They update every few weeks, so depending on the progress, it may even be feasible to try out the other more popular ROMs. Lineage was 2nd best in my experience, and Android 11 to boot with its own recovery, but it doesn't come bundled with Google Go apps, you'll have to flash the Google apps yourself.
Major caveat about the treble GSI i'm using though -- the Gcam with HDR on has a chance of shutting down (exiting). It's less of an issue when the setting is off. I do have a separate primary camera phone so that wasn't an issue to me.
I've had the phone for about 3 weeks now. I think the biggest difference between this ROM and the MIUI OS is that the MIUI OS is very aggressive about killing my VPN (Ad blocker) and other background apps. With this Treble GSI (Android 10, not 11), I won't claim that my mediatek phone suddenly became a snapdragon, but there's no unexpected app-killing, which is very important for Blokada to stay alive.
**Has any other app crapped out (crashed/exited) since I changed ROMs?**
I don't run games on this phone, so I can't say if there's a difference between MIUI and Treble, but most of the productivity stuff is running okay (time tracker, markdown editor, pdf viewer, etc.) there IS some slowdown when running mobile youtube on my browser (yes, i don't run the youtube app... there may be an improvement if you're using a dedicated app.
I bought this phone as my work tracker phone. Before, with the MIUI stuff, it would stutter after a few apps were loaded. This is improved, but under heavy loads (10+ tabs, video playing), the phone is likely to complain.
**How's the battery life**
I bought this phone for the battery life, so I'd say I'm pretty satisfied on that front. The difference between the MIUI and the Treble GSI.... there's some small improvement with the Treble GSI. But it is (after a few weeks of use) not as much of a "battery boost" as I initially thought. Maybe this is because MIUI keeps killing background apps that now stay on? Can't tell.
**Any other issues**
I had to fix brightness and I think the headphone bug. I still have the commands somewhere, I'll dig it up.
Next, I am not sure if this phone will get security issues moving forward, or if i'll have to keep reflashing to a later GSI. I haven't checked if there's a way to sideload kernel security patches.
**Worth it to switch?**
Yeah, absolutely. Not having to reload apps is a huge deal, and not losing working data while typing helps. Tradeoff is camera hdr and security.
This all sounds very interesting.
I've admittedly not kept up with the Android scene (to call it something), so I'm a bit lost regarding Treble ROMs and such; I'll try to catch up a bit.
Take your time, I can wait.
(It goes without saying that, should I not like the results, I can always bail and reinstall an official Xiaomi ROM for this device, no?)
Yes, MIUI is extremely aggressive killing apps, and getting it to stop is rather confusing (it's not enough to turn off battery optimizations... You need to dig into Settings).
I managed to stop it from killing Netguard, at least...
I also don't play games or otherwise make extremely heavy use of the phone; I also don't care much for camera apps, so such disadvantages aren't dealbreakers for me.
Thank you for your reply
can you tell what gsi did you install? tkss
Luelu said:
can you tell what gsi did you install? tkss
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You should use arm32_binder64-ab variants for this device, and you should flash an image that is THE SAME ANDROID VERSION you currently have or 1 version above. Example if you have Android 11, Flash Android 11R version, if you have Android 10 only flash ANDROID 10Q versions, etc.
To find out what GSI image should you use, this app makes it easier, it recommends you which one to download. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=tk.hack5.treblecheck&hl=&gl=US --
#Another mirror:
https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/hacki...lease/treble-info-5-0-6-android-apk-download/
2 Years later, i made a guide on how to flash it , maybe it can be useful to you.
Xiaomi Redmi 9A 9i 9AT 10A
Notes about tinkering with Android Project Treble. Contribute to phhusson/treble_experimentations development by creating an account on GitHub.
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s_code said:
Hi everyone,
I've been away from the ROM scene for a few years and was pleasantly surprised to find out that even a MediaTek phone these days can be flashed with a ROM different from its original. With a lot of bumps and information from this thread and others, I was able to test the Lineage, Havoc, and Treble ROMs, flashing through adb commands on fastbootd on unsigned xiaomi drivers. The one with the best compatibility so far is an older ROM, the Treble 10 GSI bundled with go gapps. Treble 11, the latest, doesn't have a working "recent apps" button (multitasker/app switcher). I'm not using this phone as a camera phone, but I did install an older Gcam (Gcam 2.3, I think) by googling the phone's mediatek processor, Helio G25.
On stock android, I do feel like the phone is much improved from the MIUI OS's bloat. I feel that Xiaomi as of late is putting too much adware, a far cry from when I bought my first phone from them (A Redmi 1S).
I would like to thank everyone here for the recovery files, twrp, etc.
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by the way can you share the links you used to download those roms? I wanna try em out too