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SNS: half-assed digitizer?

Hey guys!
Not sure if anyone (although I hope so) has noticed this - but I kinda feel that the Nexus S digitizer (touch-sensitive layer between lcd and glass, built into SAMOLED screens) is a bit.. unresponsive at times..
I'm comparing to a HTC Desire HD - which, with CM7, is alot more responsive IMHO!
Hoping to hear your opinions on this
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It seems fine for me though. Not sure why you are experiencing unresponsiveness. What kernel are you using?

If anything, it's TOO sensitive. You can actually register a press without touching the phone. Try it, move your finger ever so slowly towards a button, but make sure not to touch it. Eventually, when you're a couple millimeters away, it'll register a touch, even though no contact has been made.

i think he is describing the FREEZE problem some people are experiencing
by default SAMOLED display are SUPER sensitive, you do not even need to touch the screen, it's enough to just fly-by over the screen surface and you can activate something
it's actually too good for some people which wants to make them less sensible

Vandam500 said:
It seems fine for me though. Not sure why you are experiencing unresponsiveness. What kernel are you using?
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I'm running stock GRI54 right now
AllGamer said:
i think he is describing the FREEZE problem some people are experiencing
by default SAMOLED display are SUPER sensitive, you do not even need to touch the screen, it's enough to just fly-by over the screen surface and you can activate something
it's actually too good for some people which wants to make them less sensible
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Well, I might just've phrased my question the wrong way. I have the i9023 (SCLCD) version of the Nexus S - my girlfriend has an Xperia X10i and with that phone you can feel that the digitizer isn't keeping up with your finger.
I've used both an iPhone 4 and HTC Desire HD - both seem to 'track' my finger better on-screen.. Am I the only one? Damn, I was hoping that I wouldn't have to go see my doc

What is the fix for poor touch screen response on the Triumph?

Hello,
I am convinced that something is wrong with the Triumph. I searched for "keyboard" and "response" in the thread titles but got nothing.
Basically, the screen doesn't register my touches consistently. Is this something that is fixable by a software update, or is it faulty hardware? It's almost like I type too fast for the Triumph. But when touching a link, it often doesn't register, either, and it's not localized to any particular area of the screen. Slowing down my typing seems to help, but this is making the phone in my opinion, unusable. I have no reason to believe that I got a faulty unit.
What is the fix for this problem, and sorry if I missed the answers somewhere in the forums.

Have you removed the secondary screen protector?
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Attictron said:
Have you removed the secondary screen protector?
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No, I have not, but I have thought about it. I've heard conflicting reports about whether that helps or not. In the past, I have not noted these screen protectors to be causing the problem. Can anyone speak with authority about whether removing the screen protector solves the response issues? It's a one-way procedure, because there's no way that I'll be able to get that screen protector applied as perfectly as it was at the factory.
Thanks

lamenramen said:
Can anyone speak with authority about whether removing the screen protector solves the response issues?
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I can't speak with authority, but I can speak based on personal experience. It made a HUGE difference for me. And no, I haven't had any scratches on the screen nor have I had any problems since I removed it.

I can't say but I have notices that when my available RAM falls below 50 mb that the touch becomes less responsive, that and cold fingers.

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JWhipple said:
I can't speak with authority, but I can speak based on personal experience. It made a HUGE difference for me. And no, I haven't had any scratches on the screen nor have I had any problems since I removed it.
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The touch screen does lag, regardless of the screen protector. Its most apparent to me when opening the app drawer; it's hard to get the screen to roll. I think it's a combination of literally cold fingers as well as a sort of metaphorical coldness of the device itself; it seems that the lag effect diminishes as the device settles into its groove after prolonged use. I notice the lag when the ROM is 'fresh.'
I am on my 2nd T and they both exhibit the quirk. LPP and the new ADW seem to help her work it out. Perplexing little devices on an intentionally-attenuated redheaded step-network, fer sure, but virtually unbrickable, and oh my black jesus do i ever love me my $25/month, contract-free ultimateness.

I've spent a lot of time trying to resolve this issue in the TG-Reloaded CM7 ROM. Updating & rewriting the bi041p touchscreen driver in the kernel. I'm finally ready to just say it's a hardware problem, maybe a grounding issue. The interrupt sometimes just doesn't trigger reliably.

Well they're are two things you can do it increase the touch screen sensitivity,the first way would be to flash ROM or a kernel that has reworked drivers that are supposed to help touchscreen sensitivity a little.The next thing you could do that I think would greatly improve touchscreen sensitivity would be to take of the factory installed screen protector as it is very thick and low quality.

To the owners: is my s-pen malfunctioning?

Hi all,
I think my SGN 10.1 is a fine tablet, but I have an issue with the pen: it isn’t recognized when it makes very light contact with the screen. In particular, light fast clicks don’t register consistently. The nib is a little loose and clicks a little bit. When I press down on the screen just until the tip makes contact with the back-end, no response. I have to press just a little more for the touch to register.
Do you experience the same thing, do you think it’s normal behavior, or should I return it?

Did you try reseating the nib?

toenail_flicker said:
Did you try reseating the nib?
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Yes, and I tried a different nib as well. So I guess you think I have a real issue? In your opinion, should the tablet react to the lightest touch or not?

I think the actual convenience of this pen is more sensitive than finger on SGN 10.1,even the original SGN.

donglepierre said:
Yes, and I tried a different nib as well. So I guess you think I have a real issue? In your opinion, should the tablet react to the lightest touch or not?
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After reading your post, I can confirm that my one reacts in the same way after testing.
For me this is not an issue as I have no real need to touch and move the screen so lightly. Everything I have practically used it for has worked without any hiccups and I have been able to achieve the desired results such as flawless note taking, browsing with the pen, doodling now and again.
Which task will you perform that requires such sensitivity?
My only complaint is that when I write using the S-pen, I occasionally press the side button which I wish I could disable.

HasC said:
After reading your post, I can confirm that my one reacts in the same way after testing.
For me this is not an issue as I have no real need to touch and move the screen so lightly. Everything I have practically used it for has worked without any hiccups and I have been able to achieve the desired results such as flawless note taking, browsing with the pen, doodling now and again.
Which task will you perform that requires such sensitivity?
My only complaint is that when I write using the S-pen, I occasionally press the side button which I wish I could disable.
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Thanks a lot for the info! The "issue" nags me in normal use, like clicking buttons and hyperlinks. I am a light-handed user, I like to click lightly and quickly. I also like the idea of not putting too much stress on the screen, fearing premature damage/scratching. But if everybody is on the same boat, I guess I will have to adjust, for everything else works fine, in particular the handwriting recognition which I find quite impressive IMO.

tonyleeloveyou said:
I think the actual convenience of this pen is more sensitive than finger on SGN 10.1,even the original SGN.
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But how sensitive is your pen? Can you succesfully click on buttons and menus fast and with a very light touch consistently, or does it skip clicks like every five tries?

donglepierre said:
Thanks a lot for the info! The "issue" nags me in normal use, like clicking buttons and hyperlinks. I am a light-handed user, I like to click lightly and quickly. I also like the idea of not putting too much stress on the screen, fearing premature damage/scratching. But if everybody is on the same boat, I guess I will have to adjust, for everything else works fine, in particular the handwriting recognition which I find quite impressive IMO.
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I wonder if there is a way to adjust screen sensitivity like in CM....

ngocdao said:
I wonder if there is a way to adjust screen sensitivity like in CM....
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I think in my case, the problem is more “responsiveness” than “sensitivity”. The touch screen is responsive to the finger, not so much with the pen. And the sensitivity to pen pressure is very good. It’s just that the pressure threshold for the pen to be recognized is bit too high for my taste. I’d like the feedback of other users before considering replacing my unit.

donglepierre said:
But how sensitive is your pen? Can you succesfully click on buttons and menus fast and with a very light touch consistently, or does it skip clicks like every five tries?
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Mine skips sometimes and is inconsistent as well. My Note phone behaves the same way.

donglepierre said:
Thanks a lot for the info! The "issue" nags me in normal use, like clicking buttons and hyperlinks. I am a light-handed user, I like to click lightly and quickly. I also like the idea of not putting too much stress on the screen, fearing premature damage/scratching. But if everybody is on the same boat, I guess I will have to adjust, for everything else works fine, in particular the handwriting recognition which I find quite impressive IMO.
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I don't think there is any need to worry as Samsung would have carried out stress tests to an acceptable level to prevent scratches and breakage, it sounds like even when you adjust, you will probably use less pressure than me anyway, I am quite heavy handed.
I have been using the phone version of the Note for a while and have never had issues with scratches or breakage. I intend to use the Note as I would use pen on paper and if it cannot handle that then it is not worth the money that Samsung are charging for it and I will be the first to take it back if there were problems under the sales of good act we have here in the uk I.e. being fit for purpose, durable quality etc.
You may want to get a screen protector if you are still concerned.

If you draw a lot the spen imprints a lot of sgnote s/p. I have a really heavy hand and draw with immense pressure on both notes and they have yet to show any wear...
we don't see things as they are; we see things as we are.

donglepierre said:
Hi all,
I think my SGN 10.1 is a fine tablet, but I have an issue with the pen: it isn’t recognized when it makes very light contact with the screen. In particular, light fast clicks don’t register consistently. The nib is a little loose and clicks a little bit. When I press down on the screen just until the tip makes contact with the back-end, no response. I have to press just a little more for the touch to register.
Do you experience the same thing, do you think it’s normal behavior, or should I return it?
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Yes, imho your pen /tab is malfunctioning. I've received my 2nd tab, which unlike the 1st one creaked on both sides *and* exhibited the same light touch pen behaviour problem. It was very frustrating to use. Other than some stutter the 1st tab works just fine. So, I decided to send the 2nd tab back due to 2 issues I mentioned earlier. Interestingly enough and going by the serial # the 2nd tab was from the earlier build.
I say get it exchanged if you can. Hth.

SM05 said:
I say get it exchanged if you can. Hth.
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You just made things more difficult for me. Hmmm whom should I believe?... I don’t know lol

Life is short. If you're not happy, return it.

toenail_flicker said:
Life is short. If you're not happy, return it.
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I’m happy. But I would be happier if I knew for sure that I could do better by replacing my Note. All things considered, I think I’ll keep it. I don’t think I’ll get an S-Pen without a little leeway in the nib (I had an Intuos 3, and I have vague memories of this).

Bamboo pen/tip design looks nothing like the spen
we don't see things as they are; we see things as we are.

For those interested, a related thread about the Wacom Intuos 4: http://forum.wacom.eu/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=993 (see the post by ivanzorkic)
That’s exactly what I needed to have confirmation on. So I’ll keep my Note as is, quality is good enough. Thanks everyone!

I'm having the same problem with my second Note 10.1. My first Note 10.1 (that was stolen) was bought in September. This one was bought a few days ago. It's different from my first one. The screen sticker has more logos such as DivX and ChatOn and is in colour as opposed to white only. The S Pen fits tightly in the slot and is hard to remove compared to the old one which was perfect and easier to remove. Light touches with the pen don't register making skips in the lines where I reduce pressure.
Could this be a manufacturing issue affecting the newer models? Should I exchange it or is there calibration I can do?

[Q] "Natural Scrolling" using mouse on T700 dock?

Does anybody know if it is possible to enable opposite scrolling on the T700 Dock mousepad similar to that on macbook trackpads? The current scrolling is too awkward with me, especially with multitouch gestures.

Opposite scrolling? Meaning you scroll up and the screen goes down? That sounds illogical and unnatural... Rather like pushing up on the lift when you want to go to the basement...
I have no idea if it can be done.

ShadowLea said:
Opposite scrolling? Meaning you scroll up and the screen goes down? That sounds illogical and unnatural... Rather like pushing up on the lift when you want to go to the basement...
I have no idea if it can be done.
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Yep pretty much. If you have tried it on a macbook, it isn't as odd as it sounds and once you start using it, it seems much more natural.

NirmK96 said:
Yep pretty much. If you have tried it on a macbook, it isn't as odd as it sounds and once you start using it, it seems much more natural.
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I've tried a macbook. Nothing about that thing felt natural. (As a designer I am often illfated to using a Mac... I hate being forced to do things one specific pre-chosen-by-someone-else way and be left with no free will of my own. Creativity is doing things outside the box, a Mac is a 50meter-solid-walled concrete cell.)
I have tried it, I'm a gamer, the one thing I hate almost as much as online DRM is an inversed Y-axis.

Question Are these jagged punch-hole edges normal on all Pixel 6a units ?

The punch-hole's circumference is noticeably jagged. Please zoom in on the image attached. You'll see that the boundary of the punch-hole circle is not smooth. Apologies if the image does not convey my point. You may check you own device's punch-hole on full brightness, on a white background to get the idea.
I'd like to know if this is the case with every unit of Pixel 6a or if this is normal.
There's also some very tiny amount of green-tint/rainbow-ish effect around some part of the circumference of the punch-hole, although it is barely visible and is probably just my eyes' fault.
Thanks in advance.

Are you talking about the pixels themselves on the display?
Pixels are square. The punch hole is a circle, so it's going to look like that if you zoom in enough.

We don't need no stinking laser...
Lol it does look a bit crude but then again I never scrutinize my Samsung's stupid hole that closely.

Mine looks fine and so does yours. Yeah if blow up your macro shot to 3x can see maybe not laser perfect but the circle is also cutting over pixels, so that's to be expected. I don't notice any rainbowing on mine

nate1975 said:
Are you talking about the pixels themselves on the display?
Pixels are square. The punch hole is a circle, so it's going to look like that if you zoom in enough.
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Thanks for the reply. I was referring to the boundary/border/circumference of the black punch-hole. I suppose I was being too critical. From a normal distance it all seems fine.

blackhawk said:
We don't need no stinking laser...
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Lol it does look a bit crude but then again I never scrutinize my Samsung's stupid hole that closely.
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Yeap, I was probably being a little too OCD with the whole thing. Thanks for the reply though.

damian5000 said:
Mine looks fine and so does yours. Yeah if blow up your macro shot to 3x can see maybe not laser perfect but the circle is also cutting over pixels, so that's to be expected. I don't notice any rainbowing on minht
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True, true. It does look okay from a normal distance.

Rishabh.KS said:
Yeap, I was probably being a little too OCD with the whole thing. Thanks for the reply though.
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Run Screen Test to determine the color integrity of the pixels around the hole. Colors should be uniform. I always test the display on a new phone and as it ages.

Thanks for the response. I might run a screen test, although the screen seems perfectly fine as it is from average working distances. I was probably being way too ocd about the whole issue.

blackhawk said:
Run Screen Test to determine the color integrity of the pixels around the hole. Colors should be uniform. I always test the display on a new phone and as it ages.
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Thanks for the response. I might run a screen test, although the screen seems perfectly fine as it is from average working distances. I was probably being way too ocd about the whole issue.

Rishabh.KS said:
Thanks for the response. I might run a screen test, although the screen seems perfectly fine as it is from average working distances. I was probably being way too ocd about the whole issue.
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An interesting thread. The flashing proximity sensor threads were common a while back. One or two flashing pixels on phone calls drove some Samsung users mad. Never even notice it before
Always a good idea to run Screen Test to help spot display issues especially on a new device or one that's under warranty.
I test my 3yo N10+ every month or two. It's bright so don't linger too long when doing it.
Any display pixel anomalies are easy to spot.
Any wrong color pixels at the hole would confirm you suspicions. With 20/10 vision and no magnification though the hole should seem smooth, at least on a N10+.

blackhawk said:
An interesting thread. The flashing proximity sensor threads were common a while back. One or two flashing pixels on phone calls drove some Samsung users mad. Never even notice it before
Always a good idea to run Screen Test to help spot display issues especially on a new device or one that's under warranty.
I test my 3yo N10+ every month or two. It's bright so don't linger too long when doing it.
Any display pixel anomalies are easy to spot.
Any wrong color pixels at the hole would confirm you suspicions. With 20/10 vision and no magnification though the hole should seem smooth, at least on a N10+.
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I'm kinda new to all this. It'd be great if you could provide any suggestions regarding how to go about doing a screen test, where to start, any apps in particular, etc. Thanks.

Rishabh.KS said:
I'm kinda new to all this. It'd be great if you could provide any suggestions regarding how to go about doing a screen test, where to start, any apps in particular, etc. Thanks.
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Not sure if this will run on 12 but it's on Playstore. It's what I use.