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Question for VW, Skoda and Seat owners: Is there anybody here who is able to get their MTCD unit to show things like radio station frequencies on the build in MFD display? I have a Skoda Yeti (technically similar to Golf VI) and I am not able to make my MTCD unit with Malaysk 4.0 show these things on the MFD. Previously I had a Ownice C500 and that unit was actually able to show a compass on the MFD. I have seen pictures on an russian forum from a guy who could see radio frequncies on his Seat MFD (I think it was from a MTCB unit) . I am looking for a hint as to what settings I need to change in the ECU with my VCDS equipment. Thank you in advance.
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Kurt Lund
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Question for VW, Skoda and Seat owners: Is there anybody here who is able to get their MTCD unit to show things like radio station frequencies on the build in MFD display? I have a Skoda Yeti (technically similar to Golf VI) and I am not able to make my MTCD unit with Malaysk 4.0 show these things on the MFD. Previously I had a Ownice C500 and that unit was actually able to show a compass on the MFD. I have seen pictures on an russian forum from a guy who could see radio frequncies on his Seat MFD (I think it was from a MTCB unit) . I am looking for a hint as to what settings I need to change in the ECU with my VCDS equipment. Thank you in advance.
Regards
Kurt Lund
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do you see anything on the MFD when using the original Bolero/Columbus/Amundsen?
If yes, then you don't need VCDS coding, the canbus adapter and MCU should do the job. I didn't try it on mine, i will do so later today and post results.
...and latest Malaysk is 11.5, not 4.0 btw
zerozoneice said:
do you see anything on the MFD when using the original Bolero/Columbus/Amundsen?
If yes, then you don't need VCDS coding, the canbus adapter and MCU should do the job. I didn't try it on mine, i will do so later today and post results.
...and latest Malaysk is 11.5, not 4.0 btw
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I never had an original radio which was able to send information to the display. I tried various setiings in VCDS to see if I could enable something, but to no avail. Thank you in advance for looking.
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Kurt Lund
BTW: The latest ROM for MTCD HU with PX5 processor from Malaysk is 4.0. 11.5 is for older type of HU.
Kurt Lund said:
Question for VW, Skoda and Seat owners: Is there anybody here who is able to get their MTCD unit to show things like radio station frequencies on the build in MFD display? I have a Skoda Yeti (technically similar to Golf VI) and I am not able to make my MTCD unit with Malaysk 4.0 show these things on the MFD. Previously I had a Ownice C500 and that unit was actually able to show a compass on the MFD. I have seen pictures on an russian forum from a guy who could see radio frequncies on his Seat MFD (I think it was from a MTCB unit) . I am looking for a hint as to what settings I need to change in the ECU with my VCDS equipment. Thank you in advance.
Regards
Kurt Lund
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I have a SEAT Leon and a MTCD PX5. It only shows the radio station, but not the RDS info. If I use the music app or the bluetooth app the MFD only shows the number of the song but not the tags (name, artist, etc.) As I understand, it is something with the canbus.
Kurt Lund said:
I never had an original radio which was able to send information to the display. I tried various setiings in VCDS to see if I could enable something, but to no avail. Thank you in advance for looking.
Regards
Kurt Lund
BTW: The latest ROM for MTCD HU with PX5 processor from Malaysk is 4.0. 11.5 is for older type of HU.
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a, ok i assumed u had a PX3
I have a 2010 GTI. Replaced the original radio with an MTCD.
Previously, my MFD would show compass direction (N, NE, E, SE, ect) next to the clock and I would also have a radio station section. After installing the MTCD, the compass would turn on, set to North, correct to the actual direction, then turn off again. It was a continuous 5 second cycle of this. I asked around on other forums and finally found that it just wouldn't work. One person just pulled out the compass unit. That's what I ended up doing. It doesn't bother me to not have it there if I'm just going to have navigation on my HU anyway.
For the radio, honestly, I never used the function on the MFD. It was easier to just cycle the presets using the steering wheel controls or pressing the button on the HU instead of changing to the radio function and scrolling through the list.
Troggie81 said:
I have a 2010 GTI. Replaced the original radio with an MTCD.
Previously, my MFD would show compass direction (N, NE, E, SE, ect) next to the clock and I would also have a radio station section. After installing the MTCD, the compass would turn on, set to North, correct to the actual direction, then turn off again. It was a continuous 5 second cycle of this. I asked around on other forums and finally found that it just wouldn't work. One person just pulled out the compass unit. That's what I ended up doing. It doesn't bother me to not have it there if I'm just going to have navigation on my HU anyway.
For the radio, honestly, I never used the function on the MFD. It was easier to just cycle the presets using the steering wheel controls or pressing the button on the HU instead of changing to the radio function and scrolling through the list.
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I agree it is not the worlds most important function, but it irritates me that I cant get it to work anyway. Your GTI from 2010 has exactely the same ECU as my Skoda as far as I know so it ought to work.
What do you mean by "just pulled out the compass unit"? Physically took something out?
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Kurt Lund
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I agree it is not the worlds most important function, but it irritates me that I cant get it to work anyway. Your GTI from 2010 has exactely the same ECU as my Skoda as far as I know so it ought to work.
What do you mean by "just pulled out the compass unit"? Physically took something out?
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Kurt Lund
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Seems like there are always going to be little things you have to ignore when you go with non OEM electronics. I'm pretty picky about stuff, but I can let the radio go.
Yep, the compass module in my car is in the rear headliner. Just Googled it and found this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mw1T7oqiQsw
@Kurt Lund i checked on mine and in the "audio" menu it shows the FM frequency of the station playing (when in radio mode) and track# and mm:ss (when in default built-in music player mode). If i use poweramp it shows just "Video" input on the MFD, no track or counter info. I don't see a compass on the MFD since i didn't have an OEM navigation setup beforehand.
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@Kurt Lund i checked on mine and in the "audio" menu it shows the FM frequency of the station playing (when in radio mode) and track# and mm:ss (when in default built-in music player mode). If i use poweramp it shows just "Video" input on the MFD, no track or counter info. I don't see a compass on the MFD since i didn't have an OEM navigation setup beforehand.
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The compass on mine always showed up as just letters next to the time. So, the very top would have something like "NE 5:34" or "S 6:20". There was also a calibration option in the MFD setup menu. Selecting calibration would require you to drive in a circle. I also didn't have a factory nav unit.
Is there a fix to this yet ? I installed a MTCD unit on my vw touran 2006 and at first (1-2 days) the MFD displayed Audio but no information.. that was not a problem since I could atlist use the buttons on the steering wheel to change the songs anyway.. but afther that the Audio from MFD dissapeared and the onky way I can change the songs are from the HU. (compas also dissapeared).
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Is there a fix to this yet ? I installed a MTCD unit on my vw touran 2006 and at first (1-2 days) the MFD displayed Audio but no information.. that was not a problem since I could atlist use the buttons on the steering wheel to change the songs anyway.. but afther that the Audio from MFD dissapeared and the onky way I can change the songs are from the HU. (compas also dissapeared).
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anyone got a fix for this. i just got some zeroes in 2013 t5 when using dab or bluetooth audio.
If anyone is wondering, we can display on MFD using CanBus.
We can find adresses to write on internet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1eirT8LbSRl4j06BpwgsiE4PM_2BGH9UStdWLXwKvHJw
If someone is able to take info from android and send them through canbus you should display everything as original.
Here is a MFD compatible Head unit: http://m.cardvdstereos.com/android-8-0-car-dvd-player-vw-mqb-universal
If you ask for firmware of these unit you should maybe able to look how it works.
I looked at this. I had a windows CE head unit and that could display the MFD compass heading, so I know it should be possible with a non-VAG head unit. Looking at VCDS information it seems that compass information can be put onto canbus by either the head unit or a compass module. Cars without a VAG satnav such as the Columbus, would have a compass module instead, usually fitted in the top of the tailgate/boot/trunk.
So theoretically if you want the MFD compass and your MTCE head unit isn't putting the data on the canbus you could install a VAG compass module to do this. It would require VCDS coding to setup though; to register the compass module.
From what I've read it doesn't seem as if any MTCE head units put this compass data on the canbus; though there seems no reason why they shouldn't be able to do this. I would guess that it wouldn't even need a firmware mod, but could be managed in software.
UnReal' said:
If anyone is wondering, we can display on MFD using CanBus.
We can find adresses to write on internet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1eirT8LbSRl4j06BpwgsiE4PM_2BGH9UStdWLXwKvHJw
If someone is able to take info from android and send them through canbus you should display everything as original.
Here is a MFD compatible Head unit: http://m.cardvdstereos.com/android-8-0-car-dvd-player-vw-mqb-universal
If you ask for firmware of these unit you should maybe able to look how it works.
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Interesting links! I'm really looking for something like this as well, but not with Android 8.1
I'm wondering how they've implemented this in the software. Is it like a driver for a system app or just a normal app?
I'm a developer myself and I feel like I can add this myself. I'm not sure though if I can just send whatever data I want over canbus via Android? Would be great to write some software for all of the VAG users here that have an Android unit so their MFD are fully working again.
I'm thinking of: Fully working navigation with the compass and the instructions, full working media display (FM, DAB, BT).
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I'm thinking of: Fully working navigation with the compass and the instructions, full working media display (FM, DAB, BT).
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That would be GREAT! I'm not a developer and an app like this would be awesome for me!
When I switched to Andorid unit instead of original unit, I completely lost any info from my unit to MFD: radio, compass, navigation, etc.
I unfortunately no longer have an Android unit in my car, so I would first have to find something for that and start programming on it. Is there any other interest in starting a project like this?
I can`t find a working SDVC app for my PX5 GS unit. It is my second unit because the first has had a fault and was exchanged. On the first unit I used Graser´s Dasaita tool for volume control. On the new unit that isn´t working anymore and also MyMTCService does not recognise the unit as MTCD and so the sound control is not working.
The only thing that is different to the old unit are the connectors. The GPS connector uses now a Fakra plug, but I don´t think that this is a problem since all other GPS apps are working normally.
Neither Malaysk, the original GS ROM nor a HA ROM is working. I've tried also different MCU's.
Here you can see the problem with Grasers Dasaita tool. I am not driving and not changing the volume level: https://youtu.be/aT0asijim5g @Graser maybe you can help me?
Hi All,
I need to find some info for the Can adapter so i can fix my issue and help other people with similar problems too .Owner of an MTCD PX5 unit, specific for Mercedes ML (W164) that came with the Can adapter.
From day one the steer wheel buttons worked (vol up/down, phone) and reverse camera out of the box BUT i had no vehicle info at all (door opened, fuel level, temperature, parking sensors etc) as many of the users especially on VW units have. The car is a 2010 model therefore the canbus info should be plenty. Tried all the combinations of CanBus under the extra settings with no luck.
One think i noticed is that i had NO Vehicle.apk or microntek apk and MTCCanbus.apk installed on the unit. I tried to install but installation was failing for both. Even copying to system/app/** didn't worked.
Any idea ?
BTW Anyone knows what is the Knob Mode under extra settings ? Mine is set to : 2 10k/20K ADC Ports
Details:
Unit: MTCD PX5
MCU: MTCE_GS_V3.00_3
ROM: Halk9 Mod 3.1 (Android 8)
Can Adapter : GS 10280514 / HW:V2 SW:V3
Can adapter Setting: 23 Benz_B200(simple)
Hi, i have the same car the same headunit and the same problem.
All is fine but i want to have more can-informations/functions.
zollaki said:
Hi, i have the same car the same headunit and the same problem.
All is fine but i want to have more can-informations/functions.
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Good to know that this is a generic issue and not specific to my unit and car. It seems a lot of people with Mercedes cars have similar problems. I wonder if this is related with the cheap implementation of the Chinese Can adapters or related with the car.
Will keep searching
Another thread is open with more technical details for similar issue, more HW oriented though here > https://forum.xda-developers.com/android-auto/mtcd-discussion-questions-development
I have the same car w164 and px5 android 8
The same problem.
No I have more problems the canbas stop working no reverse camera no Wheel key vol working and no led light on unit key, I think my canbus dead ?
Hi there:
Car is 2016 Nissan Qashqai J11 TS. I have installed a Wanqi HU Android 8 and after installing my steering wheels buttons stopped working. I changed the Canbus protocol to Xtrail/Qashqai but still unable to make the buttons working. Can anyone recommends me a way to solve this problem?
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You should talk to the seller and have him confirm if the canbus is the one that corresponds to your Nissan model...
upload a photo with the code of the can bus, maybe some Nissan user can confirm whether it is correct or not, and in turn that protocol has worked well.
Try this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jM-VKUhaGUs
If it doesn't work, then probably you have something with can bus reading.
Hi
I have purchased an Android HeadUnit for my Renault Megane 2 (2007) from AliExpress. Every function works except the steering wheel controls. The unit has the UIS7862 CPU @1.8Ghz, 6gb Ram and 128gb storage. I have installed the CanBox correctly and tried many CanBox settings in factory menu, but I cannot get the control app to enter learning mode. Does anyone have any idea? Maybe the built in key map application is at fault (com.syu.steer).
Did you find a solution to your problem yet?
I'm stuck at the exact same scenario, same unit. The support over at AliExpress mention to me to select "XP" for canbox settings. However, my canbus module is by Raise, hence I should be using the "RZC"
Also, my reverse cam doesnt work too.
Pls share your findings. Thank you!
I got the steering wheel keys to work with a custom controller made by an engineer in my country specifically for my car and my HeadUnit. The controller is connected directly to the wheel controls and the "key" wire on my HeadUnit. I had to disassembly the steering wheel base and route the cable around the original one. Now I can map every key to an action in the Key Learning app. For the backup camera, because I used a wireless kit, I couldn't use the "back" camera wire to trigger the HeadUnit to switch to it. The kit came with a receiver which only had power wires and a yellow RCA cable. I wired the receiver's power cables to the ACC power so that the receiver only powers on when the engine is running and I managed to map a button on the steering wheel to switch to the RCA input. Now when I want to use back up camera, I just need to press a button to see the image. The camera's transmitter is wired to the license plate bulb and I managed to fit it in the rear bumper.
This wasn't a "plug and play" experience that the Chinese seller promised, but overall I can say I am pretty happy with the end result. The audio quality is wayyy better than the stock HeadUnit. I didn't know that my stock speakers could get that loud and have so much bass. The DSP chip does it's job wonderfully. Also the radio reception is better than with the stock unit. The Android HeadUnit is fast and snappy. Apps open almost instantly and those 6gb of ram really help. I could compare the overall user experience with my OnePlus 7 phone. The unit also cold boots very quickly. The wifi reception is pretty poor. The unit shows 75% signal when my phone is in the car. It doesn't bother me because I put a Sim card in the unit and the mobile reception is as good as on my phone.
andrei-2200 said:
I got the steering wheel keys to work with a custom controller made by an engineer in my country specifically for my car and my HeadUnit. The controller is connected directly to the wheel controls and the "key" wire on my HeadUnit. I had to disassembly the steering wheel base and route the cable around the original one. Now I can map every key to an action in the Key Learning app. For the backup camera, because I used a wireless kit, I couldn't use the "back" camera wire to trigger the HeadUnit to switch to it. The kit came with a receiver which only had power wires and a yellow RCA cable. I wired the receiver's power cables to the ACC power so that the receiver only powers on when the engine is running and I managed to map a button on the steering wheel to switch to the RCA input. Now when I want to use back up camera, I just need to press a button to see the image. The camera's transmitter is wired to the license plate bulb and I managed to fit it in the rear bumper.
This wasn't a "plug and play" experience that the Chinese seller promised, but overall I can say I am pretty happy with the end result. The audio quality is wayyy better than the stock HeadUnit. I didn't know that my stock speakers could get that loud and have so much bass. The DSP chip does it's job wonderfully. Also the radio reception is better than with the stock unit. The Android HeadUnit is fast and snappy. Apps open almost instantly and those 6gb of ram really help. I could compare the overall user experience with my OnePlus 7 phone. The unit also cold boots very quickly. The wifi reception is pretty poor. The unit shows 75% signal when my phone is in the car. It doesn't bother me because I put a Sim card in the unit and the mobile reception is as good as on my phone.
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Thank you for explaining your solution. Seems like quite a bit of work.
I managed to get my steering controls working finally. Got the correct canbus setting and corrected a connection.
Now, I'm stull stuck with the reverse cam issue. The +12V does energize when I am in reverse gear - I tested this when I connected my cam to DV-in and cam turns on only when in reverse.
But I just don't understand why the Android won't switch to Cam in during reverse gear.
Will continue to seek help from the manufacturer. Otherwise, it's a great HU as you said. Awesome speed!
MasK said:
Thank you for explaining your solution. Seems like quite a bit of work.
I managed to get my steering controls working finally. Got the correct canbus setting and corrected a connection.
Now, I'm stull stuck with the reverse cam issue. The +12V does energize when I am in reverse gear - I tested this when I connected my cam to DV-in and cam turns on only when in reverse.
But I just don't understand why the Android won't switch to Cam in during reverse gear.
Will continue to seek help from the manufacturer. Otherwise, it's a great HU as you said. Awesome speed!
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You connected the reverse wire?
Maybe this triggers the camera view of it doesn't work via the canbus.
Well, it does work via canbus, just doesnt switch to cam input automatically. Perhaps its some software settings.
MasK said:
Well, it does work via canbus, just doesnt switch to cam input automatically. Perhaps its some software settings.
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Not all canbus provide the reverse signal. So maybe you have to provide the reverse signal on the separate input.
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Not all canbus provide the reverse signal. So maybe you have to provide the reverse signal on the separate input.
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I feel that the HU knows when I am referring (CANBUS might be working here), because the 12V turns on when Im in reverse. The only issue is the HU doesnt switch to the cam automatically. Looks to me like a SW issue. Still awaiting reply from manufacturer.
Also, I realised my backward/forward buttons are swapped. Why is it I can't re-learn them?
It may not be the same for the Navifly, but on my unit, G5 must get the proper voltage to "detect" the car has been put in reverse. I'm re-using my factory rear view camera and it's a 6.5V camera. However, I had to up the voltage to 8.6V so that G5 go that voltage...then the rear image showed up. I reused the car wiring and that's why I had to do this.
Check the voltage that G5 is getting. With a canbus module, I believe there is a wire from the canbus going to G5. If no voltage, make sure the pins are in properly.
FYI, if you are using a canbus and the steering wheel controls go through the canbus, then I believe that you cannot remap the keys.
The 12 V from the reverse wire are coming from your car (or in some cases from the canbox if the information gets transmitted from car to the box via canbus).
My suggestion is:
There is a separate reverse connection (usually a brown wire) on the head unit which triggers the radio to open the app which shows the image of the reverse cam.
You could even connect ACC or B+ to the reverse connection for testing purposes.
mastrv said:
It may not be the same for the Navifly, but on my unit, G5 must get the proper voltage to "detect" the car has been put in reverse. I'm re-using my factory rear view camera and it's a 6.5V camera. However, I had to up the voltage to 8.6V so that G5 go that voltage...then the rear image showed up. I reused the car wiring and that's why I had to do this.
Check the voltage that G5 is getting. With a canbus module, I believe there is a wire from the canbus going to G5. If no voltage, make sure the pins are in properly.
FYI, if you are using a canbus and the steering wheel controls go through the canbus, then I believe that you cannot remap the keys.
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Absolutely correct.
Thanks guys, but there is no other brown wire for this.
I have a discussion abt this on this thread too:
Medeke/Navifly 7862
Hi, Recently received above unit for my 2006 RS4. everything is great (much better then the M400 I had before) apart from the radio. It seemed to work for the first 2 days, then worked intermittently and now not at all. I have tried...
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My "cam12V" wire is from the HU and it turns on when I am in reverse. Does this mean that this signal might be coming from my canbus? If so, is there another input back to the HU to trigger the screen to display the video feed? Only other wires I see are AMP related
Give 12V to pin 2 and check if the app to display the image of the cam will start:
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Give 12V to pin 2 and check if the app to display the image of the cam will start:
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Yes! It took me a while to figure this out.. mainly because I'll have to cut the wire (wasn't very confident in that)
and also.. the wires at Pin2 didn't make sense! They were more like Battery12V. I did cut and tested that.
So.. it turns out its a pink wire at pin3!
I realized this as I looked at my old Dasaita wires from the canbus connector. Since canbus is a standard, they should be comparable. That reverse wire went into Pin3.
I'm really surprised that Mekede and Navifly has this pin layout printed in all their listings.. but it's just wrong.
Thanks alot for the help!
That means it works now? I think you had to cut the ACC wire according to the manual because the "ignition on" information is provided by the can box.
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That means it works now? I think you had to cut the ACC wire according to the manual because the "ignition on" information is provided by the can box.
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Yes it works now. Check out the images. The Pin2 (red) is probably ACC or batt 12V as there was no power when cut. I then cut the wire opposite it (pin10) in case I was looking at the connector wrongly. That turned out to be the headlight sensor.
After tracing the wire and comparing to my old Daisata, it turns out Pin3 (pink) is the reverse IN.
Excellent. Thanks for the clarification.
That means it makes sense to get the wiring diagram from the old radio of the car and compare it with the description of the new head unit.
In my case I had to completely rewire the harness (just if someone is interested):
Junsun V1 MTK8259 - the adapter battle (Kia Ceed Jd) / OEM camera usage / reference thread
I bought the Junsun V1 head unit but my Kia Ceed JD had a OEM nav unit which isn't directly compatible to Junsun V1. So I re-wired the wiring harness based on the pins description of my original OEM navigation unit. I'm only modifying the wiring...
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The only thing that I could compare to (between old and new HUs) is the canbus connectors. Rest cannot be compared as they're all different.
Oh well..
Anyways, the current Mekede I have has Radio chip NX6686. My old Dasaita PX5 also has a NX6686. However, the radio reception is absolutely trash in the new one. I dont listen to radio that often (I can resort to streaming radio) but my dad takes the car occasionally and he's already complained about it
Your experience on the harness rewiring is pretty intense!
Update: Turns out my Antenna connector was a tad loose and I had to do a re-connect. The radio reception is all good now
MasK said:
Thank you for explaining your solution. Seems like quite a bit of work.
I managed to get my steering controls working finally. Got the correct canbus setting and corrected a connection.
Now, I'm stull stuck with the reverse cam issue. The +12V does energize when I am in reverse gear - I tested this when I connected my cam to DV-in and cam turns on only when in reverse.
But I just don't understand why the Android won't switch to Cam in during reverse gear.
Will continue to seek help from the manufacturer. Otherwise, it's a great HU as you said. Awesome speed!
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So you found correct canbus settings and connections .. i cant find anything about you sharing them