Can anyone else also hear the rattling noise from camera when keeping the phone down or shaking the phone ?
When dialling someone who is on a carrier with high in call volume/high dial tone volume, I can hear the rattling of camera modules. It is much more when holding the phone to the right ear (camera side down), on the left ear (camera side up), the sound doesnt appear. The carriers which have low dial tone volume such as Jio doesnt have such issues.
Seems that the sound from receiver causes the camera modules to vibrate and make the rattling sound due to high dial tone volume. And because this is the phone with three vertically situated cameras, the sound is much more.
Yes, I confirm about this noise.Because I use a TPU case cover for my phone, this noise can not be made by the button movement. This noise comes from the upper side of the phone
Do you have that noise also when there is loud sound comimg from earpiece ? Everytime when I hold my phone to right ear (camera side is down), I hear that sound and yeah this jiggly ball bearing sound thingy comes from the top of the phone. I checked my earpiece and it plays sound in very good quality. Also the buttons are not faulty because I held them tight and tried shaking the phone, the sound was still there.
@Pr0Ankit - no, sound doesn`t trigger any rattle, only when switching between cameras and if I knock on the phone near the cameras.
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Yes, there is a noise, rattle or whatever word you can use to describe it. It is probably the lens gyro system.
I missed the time to edit my previous post so I`ll write it in this one.
There is a noise/rattle/chattering if you knock the phone and it can be heard from within the cameras zone and I think I know why.
As I`m subscribed to jerryrigeverything on youtube I have seen many teardowns of phones which have gyro optical stabilization on their cameras. He usually give them a poke or two with his pincers to show how they move.
Now, what would happen if the gyro components are not tight enough. It will clatter/rattle, probably.
There comes the bit from my previous post: "Bear in mind that although the cameras are using electronic auto-focus for photographs we have gyro optical stabilization when video is recorded."
The sound can be heard if you switch from one to another camera too.
So in conclusion I think that the noise is coming from the gyro mechanism.
I`m very curious for the opinions of the people who bought A9 2018, I`m almost sure that they can hear that too because Samsung probably have used the same basic mechanism inside.
May be I should write to samsung support for this. But I`m not really sure that they will give me any details.
Thanks for the reply. I found out a topic very similar to mine.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/forums...e-speaker-rattle-during-calls-normal.html?amp
Nope, this noise only can be heard when I shake my phone or when I put it on a hard surface.
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Nope, this noise only can be heard when I shake my phone or when I put it on a hard surface.
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It might be carrier dependent. For example when I call a person who is on a carrier with low in-call volume, the rattling noise is like negiligible, but when I call some people who are on a carrier with high in-call volume, the rattling sound can be heard. Also, the sound doesnt come up when I dial using whatsapp, skype or messenger because of low in-call volume in those apps.
Maybe the housing of this phone is not perfect enough to hold all components tight, maybe. If there is a suddenly move of the phone or a high vibration of the speaker, some components will shaking inside and make this noise.
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Maybe the housing of this phone is not perfect enough to hold all components tight, maybe. If there is a suddenly move of the phone or a high vibration of the speaker, some components will shaking inside and make this noise.
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Just noticed that the strange rattling soumd during phone calls was due to the volume up button. It is slightly loose. I dont know if it was like this since beginning or it happened due to usage of phone and idk if its worth to take it to service provider because they might tighten up the buttons but it might become loose again with constant pressing.
Can you remove the cover from your phone and check if your buttons are normal or if they make a noise too when there are vibrations (sound) coming from earpiece ? Please try to dial anyone, with highest in-call volume , do not test the receiver using samsung tool or any other tool because they play soft sound and hence doesnt cause enough vibrations for the volume up button to rattle.
It might be possible that due to cold temperature the frame would have contracted because the enclosure is actually Polycarbonate and not metal (Polycarbonate expand and contract much more than metal frames), (thermal expansion and contraction), which have left very tiny gap in the enclosure of button hence making a gap to allow the buttons to vibrate or make rattling noise? Ordered a slim armour case from amazon.. hopefully that should suppress the issue atleast until temperature rises back to normal in my region.
Just visited a Samsung Service Center. Their words were "Sorry Sir but that is not an issue. I know that the button which is directly infront of the movable camera causes this noise. You might be wondering how I know this, there were 5 or 6 more people who came up to us with same issue on same model. We had opened their phones and noticed that the button which is directly infront of the movable camera (volume up button) causes this noise when phone is shaken or if it vibrates due to sound from receiver. (Without a cover). There is nothing to worry about. Please use a case if it bothers you too much but we cant do much about the design of this model and we cannot open the device because its not faulty."
The rattling noise that you were hearing is the ois of the main camera.
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Hey all, I love the phone but I've noticed a quirk and I would like to see if anyone else has been experiencing it. When the phone vibrates sometimes there is an extra rattle, almost as if something is loose. It only rattles when its at a certain angle though, not all the time. Has anyone else experienced this with their phone? I'm trying to see if I should go exchange it or not.
For what it's worth, I haven't noticed it.
In case, out of case?
Sometimes the lip of my Body Glove case will rattle a tiny bit. Simply touching the case stops this of course, since it's not my phone but a surface adjacent to it.
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Sometimes the lip of my Body Glove case will rattle a tiny bit. Simply touching the case stops this of course, since it's not my phone but a surface adjacent to it.
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Nope, out of a case. Just the bare phone.
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Nope, out of a case. Just the bare phone.
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I think I know what you're talking about. If you tap the phone does it do the same thing? If so, I did notice it in mine as well. Also, when I put it down sometimes I would hear a little vibration. I think it's just the design of the phone.
I get the rattle and it's annoying. Not going to do anything about it but it's nice to hear I'm not alone.
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I think I know what you're talking about. If you tap the phone does it do the same thing? If so, I did notice it in mine as well. Also, when I put it down sometimes I would hear a little vibration. I think it's just the design of the phone.
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Is it near the camera? I can hear it as well, it sounds like when you tap near the cam it either rattles the metal backplate or it is directly hitting the camera assembly, I'd avoid doing it if I was use.
The body glove case helps, but if you tap it'll still make a noise
You're not alone. I actually noticed this shortly after I bought it. Posted about in the at&t forums. I even went to the store to play with the displays. The displays also made the same noise.
I can't post a link but if you search for "Captivate has a rattle" in the at&t Samsung forums you'll find my thread.
you are not alone... it feel like the vibrator motor is loose... it fells just like my iphone 3g... which has a motor loose ..
I hear the rattle as well. I believe its coming from the sd card tray in the back. Hopefully when putting an sd card in itll go away.
I have an SD card in and don't hear any rattles. However, I also lowered my vibration intensity a couple notches.
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I have an SD card in and don't hear any rattles. However, I also lowered my vibration intensity a couple notches.
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Tap the back next to the speaker and see if you can hear it. Hopefully having the sd in there helped.
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I've never heard anything even remotely like a rattle from mine, and I have vibration intensity maxed and swype set to vibrate on keypress, so I get lots of vibration. I've had the SD card in and out of it a lot, but no difference. No vibration. Guess I got a good one.
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Tap the back next to the speaker and see if you can hear it. Hopefully having the sd in there helped.
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Don't hear anything except my finger tapping the back.
Ummm Guys, sorry to rain on the parade....but if you can replicate the rattle by tapping on the speaker (which on a Galaxy S phone, Nexus One, Desire is right next to the camera), the rattle is the little Auto Focus assist system being gently lodged-dislodged (motor + spring setup).
The AF requires slight freeplay to allow it to focus in and out when using the camera.....sorry but the rattle wont go away....its also normal. Try any camera phone with AF Assist and tap near or vertically on top of the lens.... .
Personally My Nokia N82 from eons ago was the loudest of all. I havent got a Captivate (you lucky Yanks) so I could be way off the mark but my desire rattles too (as did my nexus one) when tapped or on vibrate.
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+1 auto-focus mountings.. makes sense.
For those wishing to replicate: with or without case, tap directly below the camera, and horizontally beside the speaker, with the phone near your ear. You'll hear a little tiny rattle. I didn't notice it until I went tapping away to find it.
Thanks for the replies. After tapping the back of my phone I believe I can detect a faint clicking sound. It's odd how loud that becomes when the phone vibrates, it's magnitudes louder than the normal vibration sound.
Maybe I'll go to my local electronics store and play with some models since I used to work there and I still have the connections for it.
yeah... no rattle here..
Significant rattle during vibration makes sense....its to do with the frequency of vibration of AF and phone chassis being in sync....i.e. close to resonance. Betcha its louder face up OR face down, and on a hard surface.
The other possibility is the metal battery cover vibrating as well
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Hello Everyone,
I recently bought a Captivate. I noticed the same issue when using the vibrate setting on the phone - phone rings, and the vibrate is extremely loud (other people really shouldn't be able to hear it).
I thought it was that particular handset - so I went back to AT&T and exchanged it. Sure enough, this one has the same issue.
The one weird thing I've noticed is that changing the Haptic Feedback setting (the vibrate intensity for it) seems to affect the button that you use if you pull the notifications bar down. (Drop the vibrate intensity to 0, and you'll notice that the Vibrate button in the notifications bar does not vibrate when you turn it on). However, this doesn't seem to influence the way the phone vibrates when you get a call, text message, etc.
Any idea what the disconnect could be between the vibrate setting in the Notifications bar, and the actual vibrate intensity?
I'm inclined to think this is software, rather than the phone itself having a physical flaw that causes it to vibrate louder. If the setting in the notification bar didn't vary - I would be quicker to assume that it's hardware...
Hi, i recently purchased a z3 from tmobile and whenever i tap on the back of the phone i hear a rattling noise coming from the top left corner around where the camera is. It gets louder when i shake the phone (i've only been shaking the phone cause of the rattling noise) and so far i've read that it could be the camera lens. I was just wondering if anyone had a similar experience and if so how loud the rattling is/was
No rattling on mines but it does look a little bit unaligned.
Mine has one too. Camera has a focus problem while taking macro shots...although I dont know if its related to the rattling sound. Better go and check if other Z3s has the same problem then get it replaced.
Hi,
Was wondering if any of you could shed some light on your personal experience with the click sounds that the OIS and auto focus feature that the camera makes on the S7.
I am aware that the OIS can rattle when the camera is off. This goes away when turning on the camera but my concern was mainly that I hear a very audible 'click' sound whenever opening the default camera app.
Visually I can see the autofocus lens slot back into place i believe it becomes magnetically charged when active and when inactive swings around loosely. I did check with a few friends who own the same phone and they also have the rattle when moving the phone but I could not hear any sound when opening the camera app.
Is this normal behaviour to make a click sound when the camera app is opened. It is definitely the lens locking into its position but compared to other S7's something just doesn't seem right. It sounds too 'loud'. Is it possible to have loosened.
The camera and all its features operate completely normally.
My phone is still within the 1 year warranty so I'm debating to go into Samsung or just ignore it if it is normal behaviour..
Hope I could get some insight
Cheers
Just tried it. When I shake my S7 Edge (camera turned off) I can hear the OIS elements. When I simply start the camera I am not hearing anything at all.
Looking at it further whenever placing the phone down onto a table or flat surface, the 'lens' thing falls with gravity to the bottom of the camera encased area, if I pick it up and turn on the camera it will click like its locking into focus (i can physically see it spring backward). If however I hold the phone pointing vertical (to the ceiling) the 'lens' thing will fall backward with gravity and whenever activating the camera it makes no sound. So maybe it has come more 'loose' then it should? I don't even know if that's possible. I have dropped the phone a few times here and there but who doesn't? The phone is in a tech21 impact protection case and not a single scratch on the phone itself. Never have dropped it or even used it without the case... I know its normal for movement but this seems excessive.
Are the OIS elements known to become weak and loose after a while? Everything still operates perfectly.
Same thing as on S6, nothing to worry about if everything works fine.
So I noticed this morning that my tones only play from the bottom speaker.
I was searching for a ringtone and found one that played nice and loud when I previewed it (from both speakers)... copied it to the ringtone folder, selected it in the sound preferences and when it played it was WAY quieter because it was only playing out of the bottom speaker!!
What gives?
i remember my old sony z3 and z5 did the same, both with front stereo speakers and inly the bottom one played ringtones
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so annoying.
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So I noticed this morning that my tones only play from the bottom speaker.
I was searching for a ringtone and found one that played nice and loud when I previewed it (from both speakers)... copied it to the ringtone folder, selected it in the sound preferences and when it played it was WAY quieter because it was only playing out of the bottom speaker!!
What gives?
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This is totally normal. All dual speaker phones do this for both ringtones and speakerphone calls. Once we gain root access, someone needs to find the right line of code in the mixer paths XML file to activate the second speaker.
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This is totally normal. All dual speaker phones do this for both ringtones and speakerphone calls. Once we gain root access, someone needs to find the right line of code in the mixer paths XML file to activate the second speaker.
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My HTC One M7 played ringtones, notifications, and speakerphone calls from both speakers and my ZTE Axon 7 plays from both speakers as well. So no, it is not a thing all dual speaker phones do.
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My HTC One M7 played ringtones, notifications, and speakerphone calls from both speakers and my ZTE Axon 7 plays from both speakers as well. So no, it is not a thing all dual speaker phones do.
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My HTC 10 doesnt. Ringtones only from the one speaker
I'm pretty sure it's to idiot proof the phone to prevent people from putting the phone to their ears before actually answering the phone thereby potentially causing damage and a lawsuit due to the significantly louder signal the speakers play when ringing. My iPhone X and Galaxy Note both kinda do the same thing except on the Note 9 some sound does come out of the top speaker unless the proximity sensor detects any nearby objects (like a face) which is the clever way to do it really.
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My HTC One M7 played ringtones, notifications, and speakerphone calls from both speakers and my ZTE Axon 7 plays from both speakers as well. So no, it is not a thing all dual speaker phones do.
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So out of hundreds of phones, the two non standard and ancient phones you can find to back up your opinion is all you've got?
All RELEVANT phones do this. They aren't relevant.
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I'm pretty sure it's to idiot proof the phone to prevent people from putting the phone to their ears before actually answering the phone thereby potentially causing damage and a lawsuit due to the significantly louder signal the speakers play when ringing. My iPhone X and Galaxy Note both kinda do the same thing except on the Note 9 some sound does come out of the top speaker unless the proximity sensor detects any nearby objects (like a face) which is the clever way to do it really.
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This is the only thing I've found online as well that makes any decent sense. The whole proximity sensor thing sounds great, I wonder why more companies don't do that for all the non-media sounds.
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I'm pretty sure it's to idiot proof the phone to prevent people from putting the phone to their ears before actually answering the phone thereby potentially causing damage and a lawsuit due to the significantly louder signal the speakers play when ringing. My iPhone X and Galaxy Note both kinda do the same thing except on the Note 9 some sound does come out of the top speaker unless the proximity sensor detects any nearby objects (like a face) which is the clever way to do it really.
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iPhone does use both speakers for ringtones/notifications/alarm. I have iPhone XS, I also had an iPhone X, great sound from both speakers. I don't understand why Google limits the phone like this, not only it only uses the bottom speaker but the sound quality is decreased a lot when comparing the sound coming when it's ringing to playing exactly the same sound with a media player on the phone.
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iPhone does use both speakers for ringtones/notifications/alarm. I have iPhone XS, I also had an iPhone X, great sound from both speakers. I don't understand why Google limits the phone like this, not only it only uses the bottom speaker but the sound quality is decreased a lot when comparing the sound coming when it's ringing to playing exactly the same sound with a media player on the phone.
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If that's the case then they probably updated it. I sold my iPhone X for a Note 9 and much prefer the sound of the Note 9. The XS is a bit louder but the Note 9 has a much more balanced sound with a pleasant tuning, which is reflected in sound measurements on Notebookcheck from both phones. It also confirms the lower peak volume of the Note 9.
Regarding the Pixel 3 well, I haven't had enough hands on with it to comment but from what I heard the speakers were very powerful albeit with slightly less definition which I guess is the point at the end of the day when you want your phone to be heard... Then again from what you guys are saying it doesn't ring very loud...
Since you have an XS can you confirm whether covering the sensors on the front turns off the top speaker when the phone is ringing?
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If that's the case then they probably updated it. I sold my iPhone X for a Note 9 and much prefer the sound of the Note 9. The XS is a bit louder but the Note 9 has a much more balanced sound with a pleasant tuning, which is reflected in sound measurements on Notebookcheck from both phones. It also confirms the lower peak volume of the Note 9.
Regarding the Pixel 3 well, I haven't had enough hands on with it to comment but from what I heard the speakers were very powerful albeit with slightly less definition which I guess is the point at the end of the day when you want your phone to be heard... Then again from what you guys are saying it doesn't ring very loud...
Since you have an XS can you confirm whether covering the sensors on the front turns off the top speaker when the phone is ringing?
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I have had every iPhone since they implemented dual speakers and the sound for incoming call/notification have always come from both speakers, nothing new at all. That is something that's bothering me a bit when switching to android, you have two speakers why not use em both for ringtones, alarms and so on.
It just seems to lower the volume for both speakers when covering the sensors.
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I have had every iPhone since they implemented dual speakers and the sound for incoming call/notification have always come from both speakers, nothing new at all. That is something that's bothering me a bit when switching to android, you have two speakers why not use em both for ringtones, alarms and so on.
It just seems to lower the volume for both speakers when covering the sensors.
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In my opinion I think it is very dangerous to the ears for the top speaker to not turn off with the proximity sensor, as I have been in a situation where I was showing my friend a song I was working on, the phone volume was down low and he was holding the top of the phone near his ear and I got an incoming call. That would have hurt his ear if it was the iPhone. I think it is very clever that Samsung use the proximity sensor to protect our ears from these mistakes. Especially if you're on a call on Facebook then you receive a cellular call through the phone in which case it cancels the Facebook call and rings through the loudspeakers. Again that would be damaging to the ear. Then again I don't Apple has ever really followed hearing protection regulations as they have no volume limit or warning by default on the iPhones with earphones as opposed to Android where you get a message turning it up to high volumes. Again, my Note 9 is plenty loud when it rings in normal situations. I'm not sure about the Pixel 3.
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In my opinion I think it is very dangerous to the ears for the top speaker to not turn off with the proximity sensor, as I have been in a situation where I was showing my friend a song I was working on, the phone volume was down low and he was holding the top of the phone near his ear and I got an incoming call. That would have hurt his ear if it was the iPhone. I think it is very clever that Samsung use the proximity sensor to protect our ears from these mistakes. Especially if you're on a call on Facebook then you receive a cellular call through the phone in which case it cancels the Facebook call and rings through the loudspeakers. Again that would be damaging to the ear. Then again I don't Apple has ever really followed hearing protection regulations as they have no volume limit or warning by default on the iPhones with earphones as opposed to Android where you get a message turning it up to high volumes. Again, my Note 9 is plenty loud when it rings in normal situations. I'm not sure about the Pixel 3.
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Like I said, it's very low when you're either looking at the screen or covering the sensors. So it's a non issue, can't damage your ear. And to be honest it's not a very common scenario to hold your ear against the earpiece if you're not talking on the phone.
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Like I said, it's very low when you're either looking at the screen or covering the sensors. So it's a non issue, can't damage your ear. And to be honest it's not a very common scenario to hold your ear against the earpiece if you're not talking on the phone.
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As I mentioned,
I can't speak for the Pixel 3 but the Note 9 rings plenty loud with alarms and calls etc unless the proximity sensor is triggered. It only dims the top speaker tho. I would agree with you about the the ear against the speaker if it wasn't for the all too common scenario of being on a Facebook messenger call with the earpiece then a cellular call comes through, interrupting the messenger call and ringing through the speakers... I do agree with you that the Pixel shouldn't just permantly turn off the top speaker for calls and alarms, that just seems silly. They should utilize the full potential of the speaker system...
2022 Did someone already found a way for dual stereo speaker ringtone for our pixel 3? Google really always loves to mess up.
My camera is really rattly and doesnt secure in the closed position!
Its ****ing disgusting of a sound when I put in down on a table, is this normal?
Really kills ALL fun I can have with this device
Mine seems pretty OK. No rattling when I control the camera.
There might be some quality control issues. I've seen a few mention rattling but most say theirs is fine. So with that in mind it sounds like you risk having to RMA the device when you get it.
My camera was rattling too if I did not use the Quick Control Button to retreat the camera regularily because the camera is hitting the case even when shaking it.
I fixed it by placing a strip of duct tape under the camera and now it is silent.
The same problem with my flipcam.
Mine works fine.
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My camera was rattling too if I did not use the Quick Control Button to retreat the camera regularily because the camera is hitting the case even when shaking it.
I fixed it by placing a strip of duct tape under the camera and now it is silent.
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I was thinking into a similar direction... Good to hear this works.
facepalm lol
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My camera was rattling too if I did not use the Quick Control Button to retreat the camera regularily because the camera is hitting the case even when shaking it.
I fixed it by placing a strip of duct tape under the camera and now it is silent.
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Duct tape on a phone? 2019.?
No thanks
My camera is firm and doesnt rattle, it does make some noise when the camera moves but thats to be expected I think.
Well, it seems as if it's going to be a crap shoot whether you get one that rattles or not? Too risky unless we get way more reviews saying that it doesn't rattle.
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Well, it seems as if it's going to be a crap shoot whether you get one that rattles or not? Too risky unless we get way more reviews saying that it doesn't rattle.
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Difficult to say with such a small sample size.
Could be 1%, 5%, 20%, 50% or 90% with issues. The quality control might get better or the mechanism might just have that bad yields. So right now we have to assume it's either a small number of devices or first batch problems. I find it hard to believe they'd bring a device to market with glaring issues. You never know though.
T I find it hard to believe they'd bring a device to market with glaring issues. You never know though.[/QUOTE said:
Ummm, ever hear of the Galaxy fold???
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Ummm, ever hear of the Galaxy fold???
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Yes and it isn't comparable.
This is a quality control issue from the factory. I haven't heard anyone say it started rattling later (nor does it seem there would be time to start breaking the device through regular use unless it's sensitive and starts rattling from dust and debris).
The Fold worked fine at the factory and testing in a controlled environment did not reveal the fragility of the design. Otherwise we may as well bring up Note 7 too. That's also a design flaw.
Since not all models rattle it isn't necessarily a design flaw but one of quality and yields. Of course Asus is welcome to make a statement on what causes the issue.
Mine also rattle when put down on table and same with just tapping the screen. Otherwise it is good. Weird that no review mentioned this, not even tech tablets. If the phone didn't cost 570 euro, but 250 euro I would not mind, but I'm going to return it, it is unacceptable for the price.
Mine doesn't rattle when closed, but also doesn't open fully. It sits at a slight angle when open, so I have to press "volume up" for a second to straighten it. As far as I can see there's no calibration tool for camera angle. This might help solve both problems.
Mine rattle to
the camera opens a little whenever I was fast walking with the phone in my pocket or when I wear lose pants but I fixed it by adding 2 strips of tape behind the camera :/
I found out that the rattle is coming from the hinge at the side where the volume buttons are
picked it up from table https://youtu.be/QcbjNwhLVIE ...
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To clarify - this is how it always is, but it happens - lets say once a day - camera just get _more_ loose by itself. I will create another video how it is all the time (it is still pretty bad in quiet environment) - but it will be harder to catch with one hand holding camera phone.
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Can other users of this phone confirm if it is a faulty unit or it is "normal" behaviour? Camera module seems to be wonky and loose, not firmly closed/locked. No reviewers mention this problem.
Mine moves a little bit too.
And 2 strips of tape help. I'm fine with it.