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What's taking so long for HTC/Verizon to release 2.3.4 for Thunderbolt?

I don't get it, really so many phones came out with 2.3.4 already why is Thunderbolt is so behind?!

From what I've seen in the developer forums, the Dev's are really having to rework the leaked kernels pretty heavily to get them stable; normally striping out all the garbage HTC is trying to cram into it. So I'm thinking between HTC and verizon trying to cram so much crap in, they can't get it stable enough to release.
just my thought.

im thinking we will get 2.3.5 not 2.3.4. and it should come by the end of the month or in september.

Greywolf66 said:
From what I've seen in the developer forums, the Dev's are really having to rework the leaked kernels pretty heavily to get them stable; normally striping out all the garbage HTC is trying to cram into it. So I'm thinking between HTC and verizon trying to cram so much crap in, they can't get it stable enough to release.
just my thought.
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no offense but you would probably be wrong. most of us knew we wouldn't get it until august or so.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm not aware they are even using a base derived from Tbolt ROMs for kernels.

loonatik78 said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm not aware they are even using a base derived from Tbolt ROMs for kernels.
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2.3.5 i think comes from the nexus s update to fix the signal issues. im sure at the least the tbolt will get OTA 2.3.4.

loonatik78 said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm not aware they are even using a base derived from Tbolt ROMs for kernels.
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Nope your probably right. Thought I read that they were using a leaked kernel from HTC, for some of the ROMs/kernels but probably my misunderstanding

Wouldn't hold my breath for the update tbh. With what we're cranking out, people should be content with what's available. If you guys got an OTA 2.3.4 update you'd want it customized anyway so....

Surprise its August where's that update I have been reading about.
#$%& my kid has the dinc 2,its been out since April,what's the big deal about GB.HTC should hire all the outstanding developer's here and get this [email protected]#$% over with what the hell strip the s*** and push it out after that support with updates, The t-bolt is one big science experiment that escaped it creator's.
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Greywolf66 said:
Nope your probably right. Thought I read that they were using a leaked kernel from HTC, for some of the ROMs/kernels but probably my misunderstanding
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They are using leaked RUUs for the base on Gingerbread Sense ROMs, but any custom GB kernels are frankensteined together from different sources I believe. They have to do that because even with an RUU leak we don't have the kernel source from HTC for Gingerbread.
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scottthreet32 said:
Surprise its August where's that update I have been reading about.
#$%& my kid has the dinc 2,its been out since April,what's the big deal about GB.HTC should hire all the outstanding developer's here and get this [email protected]#$% over with what the hell strip the s*** and push it out after that support with updates, The t-bolt is one big science experiment that escaped it creator's.
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If you are that upset, Verizon now offers the iPhone in white, which may suit your needs better.

The Apple thing not spoken here you kiss whoever with that filthy mouth might as well pop off with the Microsoft thing while your cussing like that.
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so annoying that we have to wait for so long, i bought that phone with a hope that new phone will be well supported it yet as usual no one really know what's going on and we are at least one major release away... i wonder if we ever going to be current at one point of time...

a1exus said:
so annoying that we have to wait for so long, i bought that phone with a hope that new phone will be well supported it yet as usual no one really know what's going on and we are at least one major release away... i wonder if we ever going to be current at one point of time...
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no phone is ever current... the moment it is released another OS/hardware set is going to be announced within a week and that hardware that is not yet on the shelf is already out dated.. it’s just the way things work. And it’s a good thing to. if we had the most current device it would take years for the next generation device to come out and we would slip behind the curve even faster. All that said... it is extremely ridiculous that we are not on the newest OS version given the amount of time this one has been on the shelf.

chucks1967 said:
no phone is ever current... the moment it is released another OS/hardware set is going to be announced within a week and that hardware that is not yet on the shelf is already out dated.. it’s just the way things work. And it’s a good thing to. if we had the most current device it would take years for the next generation device to come out and we would slip behind the curve even faster. All that said... it is extremely ridiculous that we are not on the newest OS version given the amount of time this one has been on the shelf.
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Nexus phones are pretty well updated.
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00negative said:
Nexus phones are pretty well updated.
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If you want to blame anything, blame HTC for putting sense on the phone, since they can't keep it updated quickly enough to follow google's software rollout.
Also, there seems to be one of these threads every week. Please go complain to verizon or HTC, not to XDA where most are already running gingerbread, it's far more useful.

I saw this asked on another forum, but couldn't the 4g radio cause any issue? Doesn't make sense since the developers here already have it working, but it seems like the only reasonable explaination..if there was one. Maybe the sensation, dinc 2 or evo3D are the new flagships and therefore thunderbolt is put farther down the ladder?

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I saw this asked on another forum, but couldn't the 4g radio cause any issue? Doesn't make sense since the developers here already have it working, but it seems like the only reasonable explaination..if there was one. Maybe the sensation, dinc 2 or evo3D are the new flagships and therefore thunderbolt is put farther down the ladder?
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Most likely the LTE Radio is/was the issue. However, no other LTE phone has GB either so people just complain to complain.

new cm7 is 2.3.5
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I've used froyo and gingerbread both. I could be missing something, but does gingerbread bring something to the table that is just so remarkable that we MUST have it? It doesn't seem any faster. I'm not seeing features that are much more than pretty fluff. Some of the features I STILL miss from my Blackberry aren't there in 2.3. It's nice, but I'm pretty much indifferent to it.

Are you happy with ICS 4.0.1 on the Nexus S?

Are you really happy with ICS on the Nexus S?
I need to say, i have tried any version that someone has created, i hate it.
Why? Because of the new multitasking, you can see 4 apps where you have seen 8 before, there seems to be no GPU acceleration in this view, it's sometimes slow and i just hate it.
The music player is soooo slow, needs around 2-3 seconds just to load if you open him for the first time. Yeah, Android has multitasking...but with only 512MB of the Nexus S this ****ty player will always be closed.
The Gallery app is also damn slow, it is not accurate to touch-points, it has laggy scrolling. The old 3D Gallery was just 1000 times better.
And then the home launcher...it force closes many times in the background, he lags sometimes and isn't working fine at all. Launcher Pro has proofed that fast launchers are REAL.
Other then that, it's OK...slower then GB, but OK...i hope Google will fix some things or i won't buy any further Android device...WP7 all the way (also just 1Ghz and 512MB but soooo fast)...

These are gn ports the official ics rom will be smoking
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bluefisch200 said:
Are you really happy with ICS on the Nexus S?
I need to say, i have tried any version that someone has created, i hate it.
Why? Because of the new multitasking, you can see 4 apps where you have seen 8 before, there seems to be no GPU acceleration in this view, it's sometimes slow and i just hate it.
The music player is soooo slow, needs around 2-3 seconds just to load if you open him for the first time. Yeah, Android has multitasking...but with only 512MB of the Nexus S this ****ty player will always be closed.
The Gallery app is also damn slow, it is not accurate to touch-points, it has laggy scrolling. The old 3D Gallery was just 1000 times better.
And then the home launcher...it force closes many times in the background, he is lags sometimes and isn't working fine at all. Launcher Pro has proofed that fast launchers are REAL.
Other then that, it's OK...slower then GB, but OK...i hope Google will fix some things or i won't buy any further Android device...WP7 all the way (also just 1Ghz and 512MB but soooo fast)...
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Seems like your main gripe is with speed and stability which you have no reason to criticize on the current builds of ICS because of one simple reason:
The ICS port these ROMs are built on were not made for the Nexus S.
If you want to criticize, wouldn't it make sense to do so on the finished product and not on a ROM that some stranger threw together and posted on some forum? The ICS ROMs in the dev section are simply that. I'm actually surprised that CM threw their name on Koush's ROM as there is nothing official about it. One only has to look at the kernel to see that (read: they are using the GB kernel for an ICS ROM). That's all you need to look at.

Played with it just for playings sake, but as a daily driver, nope.
I'm a news nut and most sites still use flash a lot, BBC, CNN, MSNBC, e.t.c and no flash on ICS means no videos and such, plus just generally it's laggy, battery draining and just not satisfactory to me at all. Sygic GPS app wouldn't run and gave an error message about lack of hardware acceleration (?), amongst other annoyances.
Yes I know these are not official builds but one can still have an opinion like the OP, regardless.
Sent from my Nexus S 4G

Enhanced said:
Seems like your main gripe is with speed and stability which you have no reason to criticize on the current builds of ICS because of one simple reason:
The ICS port these ROMs are built on were not made for the Nexus S.
If you want to criticize, wouldn't it make sense to do so on the finished product and not on a ROM that some stranger threw together and posted on some forum? The ICS ROMs in the dev section are simply that. I'm actually surprised that CM threw their name on Koush's ROM as there is nothing official about it. One only has to look at the kernel to see that (read: they are using the GB kernel for an ICS ROM). That's all you need to look at.
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Well, i hope that they can fix this...but from a developer standpoint (Not Android and Java) i can not see that such HUGE improvements can be done. For example, the gallery app has the same sluggish performance as the one on Honeycomb...

bluefisch200 said:
Are you really happy with ICS on the Nexus S?
I need to say, i have tried any version that someone has created, i hate it.
Why? Because of the new multitasking, you can see 4 apps where you have seen 8 before, there seems to be no GPU acceleration in this view, it's sometimes slow and i just hate it.
The music player is soooo slow, needs around 2-3 seconds just to load if you open him for the first time. Yeah, Android has multitasking...but with only 512MB of the Nexus S this ****ty player will always be closed.
The Gallery app is also damn slow, it is not accurate to touch-points, it has laggy scrolling. The old 3D Gallery was just 1000 times better.
And then the home launcher...it force closes many times in the background, he lags sometimes and isn't working fine at all. Launcher Pro has proofed that fast launchers are REAL.
Other then that, it's OK...slower then GB, but OK...i hope Google will fix some things or i won't buy any further Android device...WP7 all the way (also just 1Ghz and 512MB but soooo fast)...
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How many times do we have to say that the current ICS roms are made of the GALAXY NEXUS source. So they are ''ports''. the offial update wil be wayy faster with the correct drivers for our device

bluefisch200 said:
Are you really happy with ICS on the Nexus S?
I need to say, i have tried any version that someone has created, i hate it.
Why? Because of the new multitasking, you can see 4 apps where you have seen 8 before, there seems to be no GPU acceleration in this view, it's sometimes slow and i just hate it.
The music player is soooo slow, needs around 2-3 seconds just to load if you open him for the first time. Yeah, Android has multitasking...but with only 512MB of the Nexus S this ****ty player will always be closed.
The Gallery app is also damn slow, it is not accurate to touch-points, it has laggy scrolling. The old 3D Gallery was just 1000 times better.
And then the home launcher...it force closes many times in the background, he lags sometimes and isn't working fine at all. Launcher Pro has proofed that fast launchers are REAL.
Other then that, it's OK...slower then GB, but OK...i hope Google will fix some things or i won't buy any further Android device...WP7 all the way (also just 1Ghz and 512MB but soooo fast)...
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1. Have you not scrolled the task switcher? I've counted up to 16 apps here and while it takes longer to open than I'd like, it scrolls smoothly for me 99% of the time.
2. FCs and random sluggishness are to be expected in Alpha builds but I haven't had any since updating to Alpha 13 + Franco's December 12 kernel.
3. Most importantly, this is not only Alpha but we don't even have a real ICS kernel yet. Please be patient.

ICS on Nexus S will gradually be faster, it'll take some time. Not too much longer since Google is working on releasing ICS for Nexus S via official OTA. So at least be thankful for that whereas other phones such as RAZR, Rezound, etc will have to wait longer and rely on the manufacturer.
If this is really a problem. Just get a Galaxy Nexus or go back to Gingerbread and work on CM7 kangs.

The devs here are doing a great job, but there's only so much they're capable of without official release kernels from Google. Once the official release comes out, the vast majority of performance and software bugs will be fixed. To see them even working this well at this point is a very good indicator, imo.

I prefer ICS so much, I havent gone back to GB since the SDK builds...
Long days and pleasant nights............

Lol this is funny. They are using gingerbread kernels, it isn't supposed to be speedy and perfect. Even though ''cm9'' works pretty fast with francisco kernel. And who uses stock player? Use poweramp its amazing.
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pitmaster said:
I prefer ICS so much, I havent gone back to GB since the SDK builds...
Long days and pleasant nights............
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Same here. I'm loving the ics ports and have been running aosp's oICS since it was released.
Seems that many people are just not adept enough to be able to use android. Stick with iOS or W7 if you can't handle an ice cream sandwich.

v26 of oics is very nice....cant wait for the final ICS from google
cant wait for the roms from that!!!

I'm perfectly happy with
ICS in it's current form. No issues here that I didn't cause
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LordLugard said:
Played with it just for playings sake, but as a daily driver, nope.
I'm a news nut and most sites still use flash a lot, BBC, CNN, MSNBC, e.t.c and no flash on ICS means no videos and such, plus just generally it's laggy, battery draining and just not satisfactory to me at all. Sygic GPS app wouldn't run and gave an error message about lack of hardware acceleration (?), amongst other annoyances.
Yes I know these are not official builds but one can still have an opinion like the OP, regardless.
Sent from my Nexus S 4G
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Flash is available for ICS...
I really like the changes that Google made with ICS and I can't wait til we get an official build with the 3.0 kernel. For now I went back to CM7.1 just for the sake of speed and fluidity but as soon as official ICS is available I will likely say good-bye to GB for good.

mlin said:
Flash is available for ICS...
I really like the changes that Google made with ICS and I can't wait til we get an official build with the 3.0 kernel. For now I went back to CM7.1 just for the sake of speed and fluidity but as soon as official ICS is available I will likely say good-bye to GB for good.
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Saw the announcement on various sites but have YET to actually see it in the market or able to install it. If you have a link, could you share it?

LordLugard said:
Saw the announcement on various sites but have YET to actually see it in the market or able to install it. If you have a link, could you share it?
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Its just the newest Adobe that's in the market.
What's New
What's in this version:
This update to Adobe Flash Player 11 includes compatibility with Android 4 supported devices, performance improvements and bug fixes related to security and stability. The complete set of release notes can be found at: http://adobe.ly/s16mAX.
See if this works:
https://market.android.com/details?...1bGwsMSwyLDEsImNvbS5hZG9iZS5mbGFzaHBsYXllciJd

It says I already have it (how, i don't know) and when I click open, it pulls up a blank settings page. Version numbers match and all. Using oAOSP 4.0.1 ICS v27.
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Very happy, actually.
Except for the stock ICS icons. Ugly. =(

then just use what make u happy

NS4G: Who has reverted from an ICS ROM back to GB?

Just curious: who here has tried several different ICS ROM/Kernel combos and gone back to GB?
I've tried just about every ICS ROM out there, with a substantial amount of the Kernels, but it's the little things that are starting to bug me, such as my phone freezing up overnight and making me miss my alarm in the morning.

I will never revert to gb. I've been using ics roms since the sdk builds came out and I think the OS has come a long way since then.
Lately, my phone has been running flawlessly with AOKP Milestone 2 4.0.3 with Steve Garon's kernel. Performance has actually exceeded that of any gb aosp rom I've used. Super-smooth, quick, and efficient, zero lag and my OEM battery lasts more than 30hrs.

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SENT FROM MY SPRINT (not a metro) PURE GOOGLE NEXUS S NOT UNPURE LIKE YOUR ORANGE JUICE
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I too have been on ICS since the SDK dropped, and I really love it. However, I do understand your frustration. I run into bugs and stutters here and there on pretty much every ROM I've tried.
I did revert back to GB (Oxygen 2.3) for a couple days when I was getting annoyed with a few persistent bugs, but swiftly changed back in favor of ICS beauty.
GB seems far more responsive in a lot of places, which i envy. But these ROMs are all still in their early stages and are only going to get better. The official NS4G update hasn't even been released yet.

madeincanon said:
I too have been on ICS since the SDK dropped, and I really love it. However, I do understand your frustration. I run into bugs and stutters here and there on pretty much every ROM I've tried.
I did revert back to GB (Oxygen 2.3) for a couple days when I was getting annoyed with a few persistent bugs, but swiftly changed back in favor of ICS beauty.
GB seems far more responsive in a lot of places, which i envy. But these ROMs are all still in their early stages and are only going to get better. The official NS4G update hasn't even been released yet.
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This. I too revert back to cm7 when I run into a bug or I get fed up with the mini stutters here and there. But once I'm back on cm7, I find myself downloading and flashing new builds of ics. Its beautiful and for the first time it feels like I'm using a new, awesome and complete OS. Gingerbread looks so plain and tacky to me now. Even with themes lol.
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I'm never going back to gingerbread, ICS is just so stunning, it contains all these high quality animations and graphics. I think you just haven't tried the right rom. Try AOSP+ by android user and flash Eugenes ICUP kernel and tell me what you think. it will sure drop you jaw cuz its so fast.

Why would anyone revert back to an older version of a software is beyond me. ICS is young compared to GB so of course bugs exist, bit there aren't any bugs that make the phone or any feature unusable
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DirtyShroomz said:
Why would anyone revert back to an older version of a software is beyond me. ICS is young compared to GB so of course bugs exist, bit there aren't any bugs that make the phone or any feature unusable
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I can completely understand if someone needs rock solid functionality or compatibility with older apps. Luckily, my phone is not critical to my life or job, so I can afford to experiment and run bleeding edge software.
Someone who relies on their phone for work or safety is justified for running a proven, stable os. ICS is improving rapidly, but it is good enough for me and many others as-is.

Me. ICS is just too slow.

Braneless said:
I can completely understand if someone needs rock solid functionality or compatibility with older apps. Luckily, my phone is not critical to my life or job, so I can afford to experiment and run bleeding edge software.
Someone who relies on their phone for work or safety is justified for running a proven, stable os. ICS is improving rapidly, but it is good enough for me and many others as-is.
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Couldn't have said it better myself.
I can deal with it in any circumstance except for when I miss my alarm.

jonnythan said:
Me. ICS is just too slow.
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Have you tried AOKP or vhgomez's 2.5.1 with a Eugene icup or Steve Garon kernel? My phone is smooth and quick with either combination. In fact, scrolling, browsing, and switching apps using the Recent Apps feature feels much better than with aosp or NSCollab 2.3.7

I haven't tried those two in particular, no. But unless they're a massive leap forward from AOSP there's no chance at all. ICS seems to occupy more RAM as well.

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I haven't tried those two in particular, no. But unless they're a massive leap forward from AOSP there's no chance at all. ICS seems to occupy more RAM as well.
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That's a good point. I have yet to find out how these people post such ridiculous battery times with ICS. I don't recall "Android OS" ever eating up so much of my battery on GB.

I went back to GB but came back to ICS, I love ICS but went back because of random reboots and mainly battery life. Now I am on AOSP+ 2.3 with speedy 5 kernal and i found out that after i turned Skype off,that battery life is great, so i think some of the problems are related to software compatibility issues that shouldn't take that much of time to be solved. In general, i think ICS is smoother specially when it comes to the built in browser, plus the native support for my native language ( I liked this sentence ) . Hope Google will solve all the issues with the next update.
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Where can I find Steve Garon's kernel? Is it available for the NS4G? I don't which one it is.

SComp23 said:
That's a good point. I have yet to find out how these people post such ridiculous battery times with ICS. I don't recall "Android OS" ever eating up so much of my battery on GB.
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Android OS battery consumption is just a bug and does not accurately reflect actual power usage, per Google engineer Dianne Hackborn. Ram usage is just fine as well as ics manages memory very well. I typically have only 50mb of free ram, but experience zero lag or slowdowns.
As far as battery life, I NEVER reached 30hrs with a gb rom, but I exceed that with 4+ hrs of screen on time with Steve Garon's kernel:
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MrDrumngun said:
Where can I find Steve Garon's kernel? Is it available for the NS4G? I don't which one it is.
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It's in the NS4G development forum, listed as 'SG buncha numbers etc'.

Braneless said:
I will never revert to gb. I've been using ics roms since the sdk builds came out and I think the OS has come a long way since then.
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Agreed with the above. ICS is Android in its best flavour so far. The UI elements are so much more polished and I just love the little touches. Its also faster than gingerbread and honeycomb ever were. And they weren't exactly slow to begin with.
I've had no stability issues so far after just over a month I'm happy to report.
Running stock rom rooted with stock voodoo kernel.
Sent from my Nexus S using XDA App

I had problems too, I went with CM9 patch 1 or whatever and didn't uses a kernel and this is working great for me. When things get stable I'll use adifferent kernel
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voyager_s said:
Agreed with the above. ICS is Android in its best flavour so far. The UI elements are so much more polished and I just love the little touches. Its also faster than gingerbread and honeycomb ever were. And they weren't exactly slow to begin with.
I've had no stability issues so far after just over a month I'm happy to report.
Running stock rom rooted with stock voodoo kernel.
Sent from my Nexus S using XDA App
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I don't have the option to run the stock ROM, because there is not yet one for the NS4G. However, this is what I am most eager to try, so I hope it comes available soon.

[Q] Why so little interest?

There's almost no roms/themes/mods for the Ultra or Maxx. Why is this? Is there no real interest in this phone, or am I looking in the wrong threads?

johnny5126 said:
There's almost no roms/themes/mods for the Ultra or Maxx. Why is this? Is there no real interest in this phone, or am I looking in the wrong threads?
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Locked Bootloader...too many unlocked phones that are technically as good or better for developers to play with. I have the maxx...best phone I've ever had, so I hope someone will start working in it soon as well. There is bound to be someone up for the challenge.

I'm going to take a stab here. There might not be as much development because the demand is not as high as some other devices. I know there is not a huge user base, but also I've heard a lot of folks are happy with just having root access. The stock software is simply good enough. This is how I feel. One of my main reasons for custom Roms in the past was always to get better battery life. That just isn't a concern for me with this phone.
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Piaband said:
I'm going to take a stab here. There might not be as much development because the demand is not as high as some other devices. I know there is not a huge user base, but also I've heard a lot of folks are happy with just having root access. The stock software is simply good enough. This is how I feel. One of my main reasons for custom Roms in the past was always to get better battery life. That just isn't a concern for me with this phone.
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very true, this phone is just great with root.. but then again it would be nice to have a few custom roms to customize it the way we wanted. hopefully it picks up by next year XD

Don't forget new file system, to! A droid Maxx with root is a fairly decent device in and of itself. There are plenty of ways to modify/ customize it, even without root.
fat-fingered and Maxx-ed out.

Thinking about picking up the Maxx from the LG G2 (and the note 3 before it)
Hows battery life? Honestly.
LG G2 has 3000 mah, and it's not BAD, but I've had every maxx since the OG, whats screen on time, how often do yall charge?

@YoungSkeezy I could get at least 8 hours screen on time in a days worth of use
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Medium-light use with several data-using Widgets and Bluetooth/wifi always on.
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With root and xposed framework I really don't feel the need for ROMs on my Maxx and Moto X. The stock firmware is just that good.

This phone has a huge user base. It seems us enthusiasts are few and far between. That said, ever since getting my first android phone, the AOSP ROM was my most coveted. The development for my choice in phones was never complete. This phone has taken over in that respect.
I love this thing and don't see a need to switch for a long time.
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Great thing about this phone is that the internals are the exact same as the Moto X which pretty much makes any ROM automatically compatible (other than the touch screen buttons).
But as others have said, the stock ROM is so good that it doesn't need to be changed. Don't think I could live without active notifications either.

I noticed that this phone is not even listed on the top phones section and taken off newest phones list. I bought this phone for my daughter as a birthday gift. She loves it . Shes a texting fanatic. Shes gone almost 2 days on a single charge. Checking facebook and tumblr . 7 hours of screen time. My question is why is this not a top phone. Can a Note 3 do this? or the nexus 5? galaxy 4? HTC one?
On side note even if there where roms out there I wouldn't even think of putting one on this phone. I had a chance to fool around with it. It is what a phone should do . Clear calls. Long battery life. Easy UI. I think this phone should be in the top list.

A ROM on this phone is a negative not a positive. Kexec ROMs are glitchy and you would lose the features that make this phone a one of a kind. Like posted earlier xposed turns stock into a custom ROM with no glitchs.

I would say 70+% of ROM development is geared at putting AOSP on devices with terrible overlays. The other 30% is geared at removing garbage features from the aforementioned terrible overlays.
Once the bloat is removed, this phone is as close to AOSP as I've ever seen straight out of the box, and the added features are actually worth having.
I've actually added a few things from Paradigm (our AOSP ROM) to my personal device, but it's not easy to package for the stock ROM slot and runs like crap on Safestrap.
Frankly, i bought this device because it was already exactly what i wanted. I would never buy a locked down phone that wasn't exactly what i wanted to begin with. If it's not for you, you should probably look at trading it out for one with an "active" development community.
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My device is stock, no root and it will stay like that !!

I will love to know who else is keeping there galaxy s7 edge as stock with no root.
I have owned the galaxy s2, s3, s4, s5 and s6 edge all of them i rooted and put custom roms on them obsessively lol but with my new device the galaxy s7 edge I have kept it stock with no root. The reason being is because the thing is an absolute beast in regards to battery life, performance, cosmetics and quality screen. This is the first time ever i have kept my phone stock and with no root and i don't plan to root it in the future.

S7 edge is best phone I've been used. I love this. Never flash rom but maybe root after guarentee. I have 9-10 hours screen time <3

Niceee! Keep it that way, man!

souljasteve84 said:
I will love to know who else is keeping there galaxy s7 edge as stock with no root.
I have owned the galaxy s2, s3, s4, s5 and s6 edge all of them i rooted and put custom roms on them obsessively lol but with my new device the galaxy s7 edge I have kept it stock with no root. The reason being is because the thing is an absolute beast in regards to battery life, performance, cosmetics and quality screen. This is the first time ever i have kept my phone stock and with no root and i don't plan to root it in the future.
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Crickey! Root that guy. Xposed and everything is working amazing.
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Brava27 said:
Crickey! Root that guy. Xposed and everything is working amazing.
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Does aggressive doze on xposed really do the job though or minor difference
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souljasteve84 said:
Does aggressive doze on xposed really do the job though or minor difference
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Never used it. Phone dozes overnight really good though.
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Stock here also. I just flash the latest firmware release for updates. I can do most of my root functions non-root now. :good:

D4nielc said:
Stock here also. I just flash the latest firmware release for updates. I can do most of my root functions non-root now. :good:
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Haha you're just jealous you can't root.
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Haha you're just jealous you can't root.
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Haha! Tempting me with Xposed!

Lol so much temptation but I must stay strong and remain stock. I did update my firmware through Sammobile to the latest though. Since I live in Australia and the phone was branded I didn't want to wait forever for an update. Now the phone has better battery life and much smoother and responsive
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I was also thinking about doing as much as I use to do on a phone but without root but I will definitely miss the decent working ad blocking, youtube ad blocking and all those little improvements xposed gives us.

The only reason I could consider not doing root is the fact of receiving OTA updates without any hassle.. however I guess having root is more important for me due to the xposed modules and tasker

Of all the phones i have owned over the years, this is the longest time (1 week) i kept in stock. I like how the phone looks and performs on stock. Although i am wishing i could have viper without root..
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always funny to read that people root there for for different reasons.

With package disabler pro and block this (search them on the play store) I can nearly resist without root atm. But I am VERY tempted, every day. Does anyone know for sure if the knox counter voids warranty in europe or not?

I was planning to keep it stock but I gave in after 4 days. I have to admit it's the longest time I've kept a device stock...
Really happy I rooted. Improved battery life, custom dpi (beyond the built in condensed mode), custom status bar icons.
Xposed working flawlessly for the few modules I have, blazing fast device tailored to my likings. Love it even more with root.

lvnatic said:
With package disabler pro and block this (search them on the play store) I can nearly resist without root atm. But I am VERY tempted, every day. Does anyone know for sure if the knox counter voids warranty in europe or not?
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I've heard not, but I'm not a European.

Same, i had the OPO rooted with custom rom only to fi d out i hated it, theres always something broken aside from the fact having updates weekly to fix something which breaks something else. Now im happy, im on the latest PD1 update, pretty fast that it was pushed out by samsung. So yeah in staying stock

Still not rooted. Found no real reason to

Liquid Li0n said:
I was also thinking about doing as much as I use to do on a phone but without root but I will definitely miss the decent working ad blocking, youtube ad blocking and all those little improvements xposed gives us.
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There are multiple solutions to ad blocking (though not YouTube) without root, Free ones, even.