I made a video on my youtube channel about the NOTE 9 - ZAGG Curve Elite, long story short i either got a defective unit or the quality of this products is not good at all, take a look for yourself.
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This protector absolutely BLOWS. Mine was so full of bubbles and while trying to work them out the glass cracked just using the included squeegee.
I've installed tons of protectors over the years and this one is a complete fail.
Zagg charged me $9.99 for a replacement and I don't think I'm even going to try it.
Yeh I think it's well worth paying the extra and getting something like a whitestone dome
felloffthetruck said:
This protector absolutely BLOWS. Mine was so full of bubbles and while trying to work them out the glass cracked just using the included squeegee.
I've installed tons of protectors over the years and this one is a complete fail.
Zagg charged me $9.99 for a replacement and I don't think I'm even going to try it.
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AH2016 said:
Yeh I think it's well worth paying the extra and getting something like a whitestone dome
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This ZAGG Elite is more than the Whitestone Dome at $49.99
Yea, I'm just not too crazy about spreading glue all over the face of my phone.
Got this one, and i very happy.
cereal86 said:
Got this one, and i very happy.
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Which one? The curve elite or?
cereal86 said:
Got this one, and i very happy.
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If you going to get an "Edge Sticker" mind as well just get the G-Pel.
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If you going to get an "Edge Sticker" mind as well just get the G-Pel.
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In the end I got one of them whitestone copies on ebay with the glue, went on perfect and only cost me like £7
Every time i see someone put one of these on i cry.
Not defecting its from an improper install. You can not squeegee a zagg elite that hard because
-Adhesive is thick and super sticky. Air does not come out of it. Light heat helps but expect 15-20 min of working bubbles out by hand. Seriously. Light and smooth.
-Air bubbles with that thick of adhesive makes a high pressure point on the glass. Do this with any glass protector out there they all crack.
Install on this is horrible. I did one and outside of 20 min worth of getting out some bubbles it went on just fine. Second one if i had a bubble that was not coming out i used some really strong tape. Lifted the protector up with that then slowly let it down. That helped. Last one i used that with some light heat and it went on ok. Still a pain.
Now for the fun parts.
First one i had was defective. Protector had a bubble in the top right corner that would not come out. Measured the adhesive layer and it was 50um thicker in that corner. Defective unit and the store knew about that got a new one and it went on perfect.
Horrible design. One thing about Zagg is they have great products...But after its made they give it to someone there and they are in charger of gimping it. There job is to figure out how to make it slight worse. On the Elite they said well the normal one as the edge adhesive and that sucks so this has full so how can we made it suck just as much..I got it. Lets add some black borders that make the display just a hair smaller...And then we will make it so out of that black we get a little light leakage when its in a dark area. Seriously every Zagg product has one these where someone should of been fired. I mean whitestone did the same thing. They cut every corner they could and did not go out of there way to make the product worse like Zagg. They just used cheap stuff and try to tell people its the most amazing thing ever.
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This ZAGG Elite is more than the Whitestone Dome at $49.99
Yea, I'm just not too crazy about spreading glue all over the face of my phone.
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i was like that spreading glue all over my 1000 pound Note 9 but dam it's worth it, it’s only a small drop of glue inside the bottle. The screen clarity touch sensitivity is amazing it’s well worth the 19 bucks i paid for it..
just make sure you put tons of masking or sell tape on your Note 9 before proceeding and make sure you cure it with uv light, and please take your time.
it just turns into soft rubbery glue, witch can be picked away but don’t mess around with the edges of the glass screen protector. As that will allow for dust to get in! But once on, you will never go back it's like there’s no protector I used a generic brand as it’s the exact same as Whitestone dome but you’re paying for the brand name Whitestone that’s why they are charging you 50+ bucks.
The 19 bucks one is the exact same as Whitestone dome I believe it is the same company that supply to Whitestone dome! See ebay link https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/T-Max-Li...h=item21473e6d52:g:RccAAOSwZ~tbkQZx:rk:1:pf:0
N1NJATH3ORY said:
i was like that spreading glue all over my 1000 pound Note 9 but dam it's worth it, it’s only a small drop of glue inside the bottle. The screen clarity touch sensitivity is amazing it’s well worth the 19 bucks i paid for it..
just make sure you put tons of masking or sell tape on your Note 9 before proceeding and make sure you cure it with uv light, and please take your time.
it just turns into soft rubbery glue, witch can be picked away but don’t mess around with the edges of the glass screen protector. As that will allow for dust to get in! But once on, you will never go back it's like there’s no protector I used a generic brand as it’s the exact same as Whitestone dome but you’re paying for the brand name Whitestone that’s why they are charging you 50+ bucks.
The 19 bucks one is the exact same as Whitestone dome I believe it is the same company that supply to Whitestone dome! See ebay link https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/T-Max-Li...h=item21473e6d52:g:RccAAOSwZ~tbkQZx:rk:1:pf:0
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They use different glass. I know where whitestone sources there adhesive and even got a price for it lol. It's from batches that can be sold under the company's brand name because its defective. So they sell it heavily discounted to places that. I did a lot of testing with that stuff.
But you dont need to tape it. That stuff comes off very easy because it never fully cures. And even fully cured the phones display has an fluoropolymer coating on it "Kinda like Teflon" So that helps a ton for getting the stuff off. Also any on the phone can be easily removed even fully cured with some Methanol. The stuff we use can be removed with Methanol and that stuff is 1000X better then that junk in those kits. Just dont use something like Dynmax 431-T and expect it to come off that easy. It wont, But the stuff in those kits comes off very easy. I'll plug the ports and dip my phone in it and not thing anything of it. However i would not put a drop of 431-T on my display if i ever want it to come off. But using the cheap kits "Whitestone is a cheap kit that's a fact and i proven this" You will get some de lamination at some point if you do not baby your phone. Pressure on the edges can cause it and even rapid temperature changes. And that's because at the end of the day its all defective. The tube that comes with the kit if it was quality and not messed up is around $20 per 0.1oz or 2.95ml. Its expensive i deal with these types of adhesives every day. But they are buying stuff that had issues during the mixing process and being sold off as a lower quality for $0.50 per 4oz or 118.2ml. I found who is the manufacturer of it is and who the suppler who is distributing it out of China is.
Sad note. I had 7 tubes of some high end Optical Adhesive that expired on the 27th. Little over $21,000 in the trash. Still good still works but since it is past that expiration date we can no longer use it for production. That was a lot of Adhesive....But even more money. We also scrap gold epoxy lol. But that stuff goes out to have the gold reclaimed from it.
But that price is what the Whitestone should cost. I mean for the adhesive they use its still a bit much but they gotta make money so its fair. I would pick that kit over the dome any day.
bignazpwns said:
Every time i see someone put one of these on i cry.
Not defecting its from an improper install. You can not squeegee a zagg elite that hard because
-Adhesive is thick and super sticky. Air does not come out of it. Light heat helps but expect 15-20 min of working bubbles out by hand. Seriously. Light and smooth.
-Air bubbles with that thick of adhesive makes a high pressure point on the glass. Do this with any glass protector out there they all crack.
Install on this is horrible. I did one and outside of 20 min worth of getting out some bubbles it went on just fine. Second one if i had a bubble that was not coming out i used some really strong tape. Lifted the protector up with that then slowly let it down. That helped. Last one i used that with some light heat and it went on ok. Still a pain.
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So much of this.
It was a PITA to install but my install came out flawlessly. Though yeah, you have to take your time, be careful not to put too much pressure on the glass itself when installing. I found it best to relift the glass to expose the bubble in question, then smooth it out towards the edges with a felt wrapped squeegee...gently. Lifting the edges was the magic I used, much like installing a skin / car wrap, relieve the tension and squeegee smooth. Cracking glass on installation has always been a thing since the iPhone 4 days. If you put too much pressure in one location, pop. This is not a proper review video imo, user error does not constitute a bad review.
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They use different glass. I know where whitestone sources there adhesive and even got a price for it lol. It's from batches that can be sold under the company's brand name because its defective. So they sell it heavily discounted to places that. I did a lot of testing with that stuff.
But you dont need to tape it. That stuff comes off very easy because it never fully cures. And even fully cured the phones display has an fluoropolymer coating on it "Kinda like Teflon" So that helps a ton for getting the stuff off. Also any on the phone can be easily removed even fully cured with some Methanol. The stuff we use can be removed with Methanol and that stuff is 1000X better then that junk in those kits. Just dont use something like Dynmax 431-T and expect it to come off that easy. It wont, But the stuff in those kits comes off very easy. I'll plug the ports and dip my phone in it and not thing anything of it. However i would not put a drop of 431-T on my display if i ever want it to come off. But using the cheap kits "Whitestone is a cheap kit that's a fact and i proven this" You will get some de lamination at some point if you do not baby your phone. Pressure on the edges can cause it and even rapid temperature changes. And that's because at the end of the day its all defective. The tube that comes with the kit if it was quality and not messed up is around $20 per 0.1oz or 2.95ml. Its expensive i deal with these types of adhesives every day. But they are buying stuff that had issues during the mixing process and being sold off as a lower quality for $0.50 per 4oz or 118.2ml. I found who is the manufacturer of it is and who the suppler who is distributing it out of China is.
Sad note. I had 7 tubes of some high end Optical Adhesive that expired on the 27th. Little over $21,000 in the trash. Still good still works but since it is past that expiration date we can no longer use it for production. That was a lot of Adhesive....But even more money. We also scrap gold epoxy lol. But that stuff goes out to have the gold reclaimed from it.
But that price is what the Whitestone should cost. I mean for the adhesive they use its still a bit much but they gotta make money so its fair. I would pick that kit over the dome any day.
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Do you have a link where i can purchase the high end Optical Adhesive ? That you would use on your smartphone ? And thanks for the in-depth info respect!
This product is awful. I got this put on at Best Buy 10 days ago and it is already cracked.
I have no idea what caused the break. No drop, no bang, no bump.
Zagg Lifetime warranty = $10 everytime you use it = basura
Tomorrow, I will drive 48 miles to San Jose Zagg and see if they will put on the Zagg film protector instead. Wish me luck.
johninsf said:
This product is awful. I got this put on at Best Buy 10 days ago and it is already cracked.
I have no idea what caused the break. No drop, no bang, no bump.
Zagg Lifetime warranty = $10 everytime you use it = basura
Tomorrow, I will drive 48 miles to San Jose Zagg and see if they will put on the Zagg film protector instead. Wish me luck.
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Was the Best Buy install perfect with no bubbles or any problems? Maybe Zagg can get the Elite on perfect?
Slightly off topic. Would you know if cleaning the screen with alcohol wipes ( isopropyl) destroys the oleophobic coating or not ? I'm assuming it may after a given amount of times.
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They use different glass. I know where whitestone sources there adhesive and even got a price for it lol. It's from batches that can be sold under the company's brand name because its defective. So they sell it heavily discounted to places that. I did a lot of testing with that stuff.
But you dont need to tape it. That stuff comes off very easy because it never fully cures. And even fully cured the phones display has an fluoropolymer coating on it "Kinda like Teflon" So that helps a ton for getting the stuff off. Also any on the phone can be easily removed even fully cured with some Methanol. The stuff we use can be removed with Methanol and that stuff is 1000X better then that junk in those kits. Just dont use something like Dynmax 431-T and expect it to come off that easy. It wont, But the stuff in those kits comes off very easy. I'll plug the ports and dip my phone in it and not thing anything of it. However i would not put a drop of 431-T on my display if i ever want it to come off. But using the cheap kits "Whitestone is a cheap kit that's a fact and i proven this" You will get some de lamination at some point if you do not baby your phone. Pressure on the edges can cause it and even rapid temperature changes. And that's because at the end of the day its all defective. The tube that comes with the kit if it was quality and not messed up is around $20 per 0.1oz or 2.95ml. Its expensive i deal with these types of adhesives every day. But they are buying stuff that had issues during the mixing process and being sold off as a lower quality for $0.50 per 4oz or 118.2ml. I found who is the manufacturer of it is and who the suppler who is distributing it out of China is.
Sad note. I had 7 tubes of some high end Optical Adhesive that expired on the 27th. Little over $21,000 in the trash. Still good still works but since it is past that expiration date we can no longer use it for production. That was a lot of Adhesive....But even more money. We also scrap gold epoxy lol. But that stuff goes out to have the gold reclaimed from it.
But that price is what the Whitestone should cost. I mean for the adhesive they use its still a bit much but they gotta make money so its fair. I would pick that kit over the dome any day.
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I have this one.
https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/bl10NpiD
It can where it down over time but no more then useing your phone. I refresh mine every other month with one of the $12 kits from Walmart. Each vial I get 2 uses out of. I just reseal the plastic vial after. So $12 gives you 4 uses.
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Was the Best Buy install perfect with no bubbles or any problems? Maybe Zagg can get the Elite on perfect?
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Yes. Best buy did a great job. No bubbles at all. The guy had to put it on twice. The first had dust. The next, he spent 15 min. removing dust with the tape.
Get the RhinoShield 9H Tempered Glass Screen Protector. For me its really the perfect protector FINALLY. Just take your time with the install and watch the video.
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So here in Las Vegas there is a Zagg store. Based on everyone's recommendation I decided to get a Zagg InvisiShield for my phone. I picked up 2 or 3 of the demo phones and was like hey this doesn't feel stick or tacky like everyone said it would!
So i look at the prices:
Zagg Full Body Skin $21
Installation $12 includes free Zagg microfiber bag.
So I decided to say OK, Ill let them install it so if they screw something up they can fix it on the spot. The fate of my phone is in their hands. I go to the counter and they tell me come back in 30 minutes.
So i am roaming around the mall, spending money on other crap I don't need. 30 minutes later I go back and pick up my phone. The moment I pick it up i am like WTF! Phone feels like its wrapped in a used condom!
I ask the sales associate why it doesn't feel like the "demo" phone and he goes ohhh that's the wrong one out there. That phone was put out there to show all the scratches on it. I go grab the demo phone and go dude where are the scratches on this thing!! There were none I was FURIOUS!!!!!!!!!!
So needless to say I have this $40+ dollar Zagg POS on my phone and I am really hating it, but I cant bring myself to tear it off and lose my $40. I don't know what to do.
Things I immediately noticed for those of you who want to know what to expect from a Zagg InvisiShield.
1. Tacky Tacky Tacky - Phone feels like it wrapped in a used condom
2. Screen Resolution - This thing KILLS the look of the screen. Looks like a TV wrapped in Saran Wrap
3. Exposed corners - the skin doesn't even cover the corners of the phone. If on an you drop it on a corner edge you will dent the case easily
4. Feel - The edges of each individual piece don't line up properly on the phone, the screen protector is off to one side a little and the other pieces on the skin don't line up. This makes it so the edges of each piece you can really FEEL. It really ruins it.
5. The edges also give the edges of the touch screen a rough edge that you can easily see over the black sections of the digitizer.
I will try and get some photos tonight of everything I am talking about. All in all i am VERY unhappy with the Zagg.
So the question is do I take it off and deal with no protection, or say screw it and leave it on?
As for the way the screen looks and the tackiness, that will change over time. The screen should clear up in a couple days. The tackiness goes away the more you handle the phone... the oils from your hands will change the feel over time and make it very smooth in comparison to what it feels like right now. On my G1, I can honestly say it took a few weeks of normal use and the tackiness was gone... you just have to give this time.
As for the edges and corners... well that's why I would personally go for the BSE skin... they did a much better job of covering the corners properly. If the installation on some of the pieces is out of alignment, I'd take it back and tell them to redo it properly.
There would be no way for them to actually DO that. Looking at the piece you can clearly see some are too small for the areas they are trying to cover.
Ill give the skin a few weeks and see how it feels.
For those of you interested here are some photos from the other thread that explain what I mean PERFECTLY
http://adambuckeridge.com/nexus-one/zagg-nexus-one
Well, as far as the screen protector size... EVERY stick-on protector is short. I'm guessing they all used the same template before the phone came out and are too lazy to change it.
I thought it was supposed to be invisible?
On all my previous phone, 4 so far, i used Invisible Shield, all installed on my own, and had always recommended it frens. So naturally i ordered InvisibleShield before i ordered my N1.
Previously InvisibleShield shipping was fast, this time round Nexus One came first and the shield came nearly 2 weeks after that. I never use the phone till the shield came, since i still had my old phone.
The InvisibleShield was PITA to install, the corners was not covered (as usual), the fit sucks!, Alot of big gaps here and there, i tried installing it 4-5 times, no matter how i tried i was not happy with the fit and quality.
So i return them for a refund, I needed a skin badly so i google around and read on several forums to find a better replacement.
I found BestSkinsEver, read alot of gd reviews on it, but was skeptical since the price was way cheaper then other full body skin out there.
When it arrives, i was abit disappointed. It came in a small envelope, whereas Zagg came with cardboard box with application pad and stuff. So i followed the online instruction on how to install BSE, i was amaze at how easy it was to install!
Other then mixing your own application liquid, the fit was great. I installed it once and it fit perfect!!! Very minimal bubbles, all the corners were covered!!! I did not use the screen protector though, since i prefered matt ones, easier to use Swype with.
Its been more then a month since i used BSE, still looks great. Corners not lifting, no signs of dirt trap on the sides, a prob i use always have with Zagg.
I highly recommend BSE, cheaper, fits great, cover corners, easy to install and also very enviromental friendly shipping package.
ur meant to leave it overnight after applying the skin
jcohenlv said:
So here in Las Vegas there is a Zagg store. Based on everyone's recommendation I decided to get a Zagg InvisiShield for my phone. I picked up 2 or 3 of the demo phones and was like hey this doesn't feel stick or tacky like everyone said it would!
So i look at the prices:
Zagg Full Body Skin $21
Installation $12 includes free Zagg microfiber bag.
So I decided to say OK, Ill let them install it so if they screw something up they can fix it on the spot. The fate of my phone is in their hands. I go to the counter and they tell me come back in 30 minutes.
So i am roaming around the mall, spending money on other crap I don't need. 30 minutes later I go back and pick up my phone. The moment I pick it up i am like WTF! Phone feels like its wrapped in a used condom!
I ask the sales associate why it doesn't feel like the "demo" phone and he goes ohhh that's the wrong one out there. That phone was put out there to show all the scratches on it. I go grab the demo phone and go dude where are the scratches on this thing!! There were none I was FURIOUS!!!!!!!!!!
So needless to say I have this $40+ dollar Zagg POS on my phone and I am really hating it, but I cant bring myself to tear it off and lose my $40. I don't know what to do.
Things I immediately noticed for those of you who want to know what to expect from a Zagg InvisiShield.
1. Tacky Tacky Tacky - Phone feels like it wrapped in a used condom
2. Screen Resolution - This thing KILLS the look of the screen. Looks like a TV wrapped in Saran Wrap
3. Exposed corners - the skin doesn't even cover the corners of the phone. If on an you drop it on a corner edge you will dent the case easily
4. Feel - The edges of each individual piece don't line up properly on the phone, the screen protector is off to one side a little and the other pieces on the skin don't line up. This makes it so the edges of each piece you can really FEEL. It really ruins it.
5. The edges also give the edges of the touch screen a rough edge that you can easily see over the black sections of the digitizer.
I will try and get some photos tonight of everything I am talking about. All in all i am VERY unhappy with the Zagg.
So the question is do I take it off and deal with no protection, or say screw it and leave it on?
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100% spot on.
I just bought the screen shield part, and it looked like goat crap, and it wass tacky as hell. The fit was poor because it's too floppy to align, the bubbles that are supposed to go away after 24 hours didn't and there were areas around the edges that didn't stay down.
I hated it, ripped it off the phone after the 25th hour and I'll badmouth those crappy shields for the rest of my life, or until I can't remember what a Nexus One was anymore. A warranty of a lifetime replacement of goat poop is worthless to me. It was a complete waste of my time and money.
I ended up buying a Seidio case for it - it's nice and easy to remove. I will look into another brand of screen protector. I don't care if they don't last forever - if it goes a day without looking like crap it's way ahead of a Zagg. I guess when it looks that bad to begin with, you can't really tell when it's degrading too easily.
Bottom line - and I have seen a lot of them since, is that they are ALL tacky, they ALL look like crap and the ALL introduce tons of artifacts to the screen.
Buyer beware - there is no money back on these.
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I did. It was still an awful pile of crap on my screen after 24 hours - and I let it sit. It was the first time I didn't have to charge a battery in a while.
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I thought it was supposed to be invisible?
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That was a joke, right?
Meh. Zagg makes good products overall... But the FIT on the N1 is absolutely atrocious. I will gladly buy a custom zaggskin if they can get a proper fit... I just emailed them to request information on possible plans to change their design for better corner coverage, or any other options they might be able to offer.
I'm not expecting anything in regards to getting a skin from them... But I'll hope nonetheless. (I would buy BSE, but I'd REALLY love to have a custom design if Zagg can answer my request.)
uansari1 said:
As for the way the screen looks and the tackiness, that will change over time. The screen should clear up in a couple days. The tackiness goes away the more you handle the phone... the oils from your hands will change the feel over time and make it very smooth in comparison to what it feels like right now. On my G1, I can honestly say it took a few weeks of normal use and the tackiness was gone... you just have to give this time.
As for the edges and corners... well that's why I would personally go for the BSE skin... they did a much better job of covering the corners properly. If the installation on some of the pieces is out of alignment, I'd take it back and tell them to redo it properly.
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Should and does are two different things. I've seen lots of them on iphones, and they all look like crap, all of them with some bubbling under gooey, sticky plastic and no small amount of screen distortion. After I bought mine, I inspected installations of Zagg at Best Buy where I bought it - guess what? There were about a half dozen of them on test phone and they were all tacky. According to the resident geek, most of them were on there for well over a couple of weeks. The tackiness may diminish somewhat over time, but it will never be gone. Anyone who says otherwise is full of it.
I think the reason these are so over-hyped is because people feel like they were fools for spending upwards of $15.00 for a cheap chunk of stamped plastic that performs so poorly, so they promote them instead. What a crock.
I bought one for my Zune 120 and installed the back and didn't bother installing the rest of it. Ended up taking it off the back. I will never buy any more of these "cover all" device covers again.
another thing that that might not be evident right away is that crud sticks to the outer edges of these types of screen protectors i had this on two non touch screen phones and didn't mind it except for the gummy crap that i'd be peeling away from the edges all the time.
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Should and does are two different things. I've seen lots of them on iphones, and they all look like crap, all of them with some bubbling under gooey, sticky plastic and no small amount of screen distortion. After I bought mine, I inspected installations of Zagg at Best Buy where I bought it - guess what? There were about a half dozen of them on test phone and they were all tacky. According to the resident geek, most of them were on there for well over a couple of weeks. The tackiness may diminish somewhat over time, but it will never be gone. Anyone who says otherwise is full of it.
I think the reason these are so over-hyped is because people feel like they were fools for spending upwards of $15.00 for a cheap chunk of stamped plastic that performs so poorly, so they promote them instead. What a crock.
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Ok, then allow me to clarify. It DOES clear up if you install it properly. I've been using Zagg or Zagg-like products since I had my T-mobile Dash. It's just like installing window tint... if you're completely haphazard with it, it will look like crap. But in all the ones I've applied, they've all LOOKED great, aside from the orange peel effect that's evident on just about all the skin-type products. The best that I have used thus far is Clear Protector. I've had their screen protector on my G1 for almost 9 months and it looks perfect still.
Also, it (and the others) was tacky coming from just the glass screen at first. Over time the CP on the G1 has gotten MUCH smoother and less sticky. I suspect a small amount of this change is really just me getting used to the film and forgetting how smooth the glass is on its own (I remember when I took the last Zagg off my G1 prior to the CP and being surprised at how much more slick it felt), but I have compared it to one of my fresher installs and there's a noticeable difference.
Anyway, my main point is that you're right about the tackiness never completely going away, but wrong about the screen looking like crap after the install has settled. If it still looks like crap after a few days, then the installer screwed up.
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Anyway, my main point is that you're right about the tackiness never completely going away, but wrong about the screen looking like crap after the install has settled. If it still looks like crap after a few days, then the installer screwed up.
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Well, it's evident that it's pretty damn easy to screw up, because every installation I have seen looks screwed up. Even if there were no bubbles, the screen look mottled and distorted. And if you look closely enough, there are always bubbles.
As far as my own experience goes, I didn't just "haphazardly" apply it - I followed the directions supplied with it to a T.
That "orange peel effect" you refer to is NOT on all screen protectors - this isn't my first go 'round with screen protectors.
The Zagg product is just a lousy, crappy, overpriced, poorly engineered product, and I don't know how anyone being objective could think otherwise. The fact that a company provides no avenue for refund is very telling about their product. Effectively, there is no satisfaction guarantee - a guaranteed lifetime supply of goat dung isn't satisfaction.
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you're ... wrong about the screen looking like crap after the install has settled. If it still looks like crap after a few days, then the installer screwed up.
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Uh, can I point out here that "looks like crap" is completely subjective? You may have been happy with it but I was never very happy with mine. The fact is the thing is not completely "invisible" - the orange peel effect is very noticeable and it's going to be up to each individual user to determine how acceptable that is. I thought it looked like ass, myself.
Frankly, I was just thoroughly unhappy with the Zagg Invisible Shield. The whole-body protector was utter sh*t, with the corners peeling up left and right, and gunk getting under all the corners making them impossible to stick back down (not to mention the large gaps at the corners), and even the screen protector got lint and dust under the edges, bubbling it up. It wouldn't be so bad if it weren't so outrageously expensive and unable to be removed and re-applied.
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Well, it's evident that it's pretty damn easy to screw up, because every installation I have seen looks screwed up. Even if there were no bubbles, the screen look mottled and distorted. And if you look closely enough, there are always bubbles.
As far as my own experience goes, I didn't just "haphazardly" apply it - I followed the directions supplied with it to a T.
That "orange peel effect" you refer to is NOT on all screen protectors - this isn't my first go 'round with screen protectors.
The Zagg product is just a lousy, crappy, overpriced, poorly engineered product, and I don't know how anyone being objective could think otherwise. The fact that a company provides no avenue for refund is very telling about their product. Effectively, there is no satisfaction guarantee - a guaranteed lifetime supply of goat dung isn't satisfaction.
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While I agree, Zagg isn't the best out there, I can guarantee there are at least a couple that are worse! Anyway, there is enough competition and alternatives to never have to buy either of those brands, including Zagg.
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Uh, can I point out here that "looks like crap" is completely subjective? You may have been happy with it but I was never very happy with mine. The fact is the thing is not completely "invisible" - the orange peel effect is very noticeable and it's going to be up to each individual user to determine how acceptable that is. I thought it looked like ass, myself.
Frankly, I was just thoroughly unhappy with the Zagg Invisible Shield. The whole-body protector was utter sh*t, with the corners peeling up left and right, and gunk getting under all the corners making them impossible to stick back down (not to mention the large gaps at the corners), and even the screen protector got lint and dust under the edges, bubbling it up. It wouldn't be so bad if it weren't so outrageously expensive and unable to be removed and re-applied.
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I agree with your initial comment... and on a continuum of various subjective outcomes, I'd hardly say Zagg looks like crap. Ghost Armor is the worst I've found....yellowing after only a couple months. I'm sure others are also pretty crappy in comparison since the number of knockoffs is staggering. That being said, there are many products superior to the Zagg as well. Clear Protector, PhantomSkinz, BSE, etc.
I should clarify, contrary to what it seems you guys think, that I was never totally happy with the InvisibleSHIELD. I much preferred the Clear Protector on my G1...and on my N1, I am thoroughly happy with the dcmugen88 static screen protectors. So if I came off as a gung-ho Zagg fan... I'm not. I do think they're overpriced (seriously, $15 for just a screen protector is retarded), and there are better alternatives for less.
The point I was trying to get across, which everyone seems hellbent on disputing is that how good you are at installing makes a difference, sometimes all the difference. I can install at least the screen protector portions of these skin-type products with my eyes closed and the next day you won't even see them on there...I'm sure others can too cuz it's not rocketscience. On the other hand, I'm sure some of you don't have the patience or skill to get it looking that good either... just the way things are. That's all I'm saying. Anyway, if you guys want a great screen protector, I've been saying for over a month to go with dcmugen88... exactly the same as the Seidio product at a fraction of the price...or if you want a skin, get the BSE (Best Skins Ever) product. Paul22000's installation pics are proof positive that it's the best skin for our phones.
Well, I stand corrected. Evidently, there is an avenue for a partial refund. I say partial because the buyer is on the hook for shipping the entire package back to Zagg, and that's not free. You also need to get it done within 45 days and have your original sales receipt.
In the end, you can get SOME money back in exchange for a boatload more effort than it's worth. Still, I'd rather give the post office some money and Zagg zip, zilch, nada - so I'll be enduring the aggravation of the pursuit of a refund on general principle.
Update: After two days, I got an email back from Zagg effectively saying they don't refund items they didn't sell directly. This is not a returnable item from the retailer I bought it from - so I am back to getting even more camel dung for my money - or nothing. I choose nothing and a lesson learned.
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That was a joke, right?
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Of course, but but someone was bound to say it.
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Of course, but but someone was bound to say it.
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Well, you forgot to say "bazinga!"
Ok so its been 4 days ......
Case is still Tacky, not as bad as day 1 but still tacky!
Orange peel effect on the screen has not cleared up!
Dust and gunk are starting to build up on the edges and its been in the micro fiber bag since I bought it..... what a POS.
If you say the orange peel affect is from "poor installation" I will laugh my butt off. This was installed BY A ZAGG REP IN A ZAGG STORE! So don't give me crap about "poor installation"
I have decided to make a compromise on this. I am going to keep the full body and just replace the screen protector portion of it. I cant stand the way it affects the way it makes the screen more difficult to type on. So now I am looking for a good CLEAR screen protector.
Any recommendations?
Just saw this offer and wanted to share it, free protectors at**LInk removed - advertising a commercial site*** I don't know if they are any good, but they only charge transport costs for now
Thanks for the info!!
Nice one! just placed the order and will receive it in a few days
thanks for the heads up!
A few people at slickdeals.net that bought these last time said these were pretty crap!
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A few people at slickdeals.net that bought these last time said these were pretty crap!
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Well they are free. (Sort-of)
There is another thread running about these.
Long story short, not very good and have now removed the shield after less than a week.
the shield works well for me and the cutting is pretty accurate.
just gotta spray lots of water during application and everything will come out quite nicely. Im intending to get another spare one as Ive heard that such shield will become yellowish after some time.
overall, im impressed with wat ive received given the amount of money ive spent
I've ordered one of these sunday just past hope it comes soon
Mine arrived. I got 2 sets as figured I'd mess some up first time.
First impressions:
Never used invisible shield type products before. The pieces are very accurately shaped, but not completely cut, which made separating them from the surround quite hard. I found best method was to separate each individual section by roughly cutting around it leaving excess on all 4 sides, then apply to phone, and use the excess to move it around to avoid fingerprints on the sections.
A strong pull stripped off the excess of the vinyl, and also made them fit very snuggly. This works particularly well on the curved back - which I suggest you fit first.
I put them on dry and found they went on fine. Some tiny bubbles which went away after a day.
The screen protector I found impossible to get on without larger bubbles - I tried wet and dry. The texture's not very nice either so suggest you use some of the excellent ebay cheapo screen protectors. Buy lots if you're fussy about bubbles like I am.
All the cut pieces are a very neat fit. Once on, your phone becomes very shiny, and very grippy. The raised edges of the pieces, particularly on the sides, can be felt. It doesn't look as nice as a bare phone, but it's functional.
Mine arrived last week.
I had a lot of problems installing them. I was left with a very wet table, a lot of used paper towels and a few dusty stealth guards. Maybe I can find enough courage to try it again later. But at the moment I'm too frustrated with them
I also was quite surprised by the size of the bubbles. As you said, the cheap eBay protectors don't have that kind of bubbles. I must admit I didn't wait the recommended 24h
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i can confirm...got one for Desire and one to Hd2...to dificult to apply, and they look too bad, seems you are grabbing a piece of plastic.
in my desire just kept the display protection, in my Hd2 im waiting for a friend to see an then remove that crap... i bought one from another brand for my Iphone, and it was easy to apply, it came with a thing to apply the protection and it was great.
Belive me , sometimes in my job i have to decorate cars and i got some experience in applying that...
Rubbish. Screen protector didn't go on easily at all and as I removed any bubbles on it, it just damaged the protector, leaving a mark! Hated the feeling when touching it as it has far too much resistance compared to the bare screen.
The actual body covers for it are utter tat! Makes the phone look like a cheap children's toy and fits badly!
£2.80 wasted on this, but at least it means I won't waste money on full price protectors!
Glad i bought a brando ultra clear
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Rubbish. Screen protector didn't go on easily at all and as I removed any bubbles on it, it just damaged the protector, leaving a mark! Hated the feeling when touching it as it has far too much resistance compared to the bare screen.
The actual body covers for it are utter tat! Makes the phone look like a cheap children's toy and fits badly!
£2.80 wasted on this, but at least it means I won't waste money on full price protectors!
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Hmm, not good to hear.
dont get it. it's rubbish. Thick as hell. it's like putting a condom over your phone. looks and feel funny after you manage to get it on. Getting it on is a project by itself. also its super shinny and looks very plastic. save yourself the shipping cost.
Hmm, I <3 my Zagg InvisibleSHIELD, this would be a nice back up just incase my zagg lifetime warranty fails to renew. Have the people bashing this promo tried the official Zagg invisibleSHIELD? I wonder if it's the quality of the Stealth Guard, or the idea of having a plastic coating all around that's turning you off.
If the quality of the Stealth Guard is as good as the Zagg InvisibleSHIELD then I wouldn't mind paying the $3.00 shipping. But I'm getting the idea that the Stealth Guards are cheaper, and of poor quality when compared to the Zagg InvisibleSHIELD.
The bestskinsever ones look tempting. Apparently they're quiet decent and they only cost a bit more than StealthGuards.
So where is the solution that they show in the video? Is the solution just water? I checked out the FAQS on the Site but didn't find anything. My package just came in an envelope with the protectors and my invoice. Just curious if anyone knows how to apply them without the "solution" they say to use on their "Installation Instructions".
Thanks
Got mine in the mail yesterday. I need help applying it because I'm a spaz. Heh.
I found this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/6-Clear-Scr...oth-for-LG-Nexus-4-E960-Google-/350672535192?
it's only $1.95 for 6 dry screen protectors with free expedited shipping in the US. I know it's not the best out there but I personally hate the draggy feeling of wet applicators.
I thought I should share this
Let us know how the quality is, hopefully it isn't a Crazy finger print magnet
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Let us know how the quality is, hopefully it isn't a Crazy finger print magnet
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I just placed the order 1/2hr ago It said estimated delivery is between 12/28 and 1/3. I will definitely keep you guys updated as soon as I have it.
Be careful, before I went with Spigen I purchased cheap protectors and they had the grainy effect and felt odd.
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Be careful, before I went with Spigen I purchased cheap protectors and they had the grainy effect and felt odd.
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I had always used dry ones before on my previous phones. They were all fine and each lasted about a month before scratches started to show and I just replace it with another one
I currently have Skinomi. I liked it but it's already showing signs of stretches and unhealed marks/dents.
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I had always used dry ones before on my previous phones. They were all fine and each lasted about a month before scratches started to show and I just replace it with another one
I currently have Skinomi. I liked it but it's already showing signs of stretches and unhealed marks/dents.
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I haven't tried a wet install due to fear of getting water in the earpiece and other ports. And lol are marks suppose to heal?
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I found this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/6-Clear-Scr...oth-for-LG-Nexus-4-E960-Google-/350672535192?
it's only $1.95 for 6 dry screen protectors with free expedited shipping in the US. I know it's not the best out there but I personally hate the draggy feeling of wet applicators.
I thought I should share this
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No cutout for proximity sensor could be a problem. Maybe that's why they're so cheap. Then again at $2 for 6, I have a feeling even the cheapest wet protector will feel better than those
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I've always used wet apply protectors (6 different phones, and 3 tablets). No problems so far. I think you'd end up with more water in your device while talking on the phone in the rain than with applying wet protectors. Then again I also use distilled water which has lower conductivity than tap.
Here's my experience using a high quality (SGP) screen protector vs cheap ebay ones :
Im currently using SGP dual (front & back) ultraclear for about a month and although its a bit of a fingerprint magnet, so far there are no visible scratches on the protectors. Seems like it holds up pretty well against all the rubbings in my jacket pocket this past month. SGP claims of its material hardness was proven since there are no scratches at all so far :good:. And I thought all screen protectors are made equal...until I was proven wrong a couple of weeks ago..
I helped a housemate bought and install cheap dry application screen protectors on ebay for his samsung exhibit II phone. They are cheap (6 for $1.95), but it took 3 trials for me to finally be satisfied with the result as the first 2 trials resulted in scratches on the protectors when I was squeegee-ing the bubbles. I did not use a squeegee on the 3rd trial and just pushed the bubbles out using my fingers. as a result some of the bubbles are trapped (but went away after a couple of days). However, upon closer look, some of the protector edges are not flat, resulting on lifting on the edges. The thing just looks plain ugly.
So, my advise is stay away form the cheap protectors...you may get lucky with a hi quality protectors but odds are youre going end up with a lo quality ones (hence the low price). They are also prone to scratches. Yeah with the cheap ones, you can change it monthly but since the process of applying a protector takes about 1-2 hour for me, I prefer to install it once and be happy about it for the rest of the cellphone's life...
PS : BTW, the one you posted doesnt have a proximity sensor cutout...
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Here's my experience using a high quality (SGP) screen protector vs cheap ebay ones :
Im currently using SGP dual (front & back) ultraclear for about a month and although its a bit of a fingerprint magnet, so far there are no visible scratches on the protectors. Seems like it holds up pretty well against all the rubbings in my jacket pocket this past month. SGP claims of its material hardness was proven since there are no scratches at all so far :good:. And I thought all screen protectors are made equal...until I was proven wrong a couple of weeks ago..
I helped a housemate bought and install cheap dry application screen protectors on ebay for his samsung exhibit II phone. They are cheap (6 for $1.95), but it took 3 trials for me to finally be satisfied with the result as the first 2 trials resulted in scratches on the protectors when I was squeegee-ing the bubbles. I did not use a squeegee on the 3rd trial and just pushed the bubbles out using my fingers. as a result some of the bubbles are trapped (but went away after a couple of days). However, upon closer look, some of the protector edges are not flat, resulting on lifting on the edges. The thing just looks plain ugly.
So, my advise is try to stay away form the cheap protectors on ebay...you may get lucky with a high quality protectors but odds are youre going end up with a low quality ones (hence the low price). Also, they are prone to scratches...since the process of applying a protector takes about 1-2 hour for me, I prefer to install it once and be happy about it for the rest of the life of my cellphone.
PS : BTW, the one you posted doesnt have a proximity sensor cutout...
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thanks for the heads up. I guess I'll just try and see. Hopefully I get a good quality one. I don't expect much. Beside its only $1.95.
I give the homeless guy nearby my house $1 every other days anyways
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thanks for the heads up. I guess I'll just try and see. Hopefully I get a good quality one. I don't expect much. Beside its only $1.95.
I give the homeless guy nearby my house $1 every other days anyways
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This made me happy. Good for you man.
++1
I have gone through quite a bit of smartsphone.. each of them I been applying different type of screen protector to try them out.
It really depends on how *cheap* they are...
I purchase 4 for $1.50 on ebay.. they feel as premium as those $14 for 2 high quality one (sgp)
but they do get scratches much more easily than high quality one.
And even if you manage to not get scratches on them, they tend to get worn out in the middle due the swiping ..
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I have gone through quite a bit of smartsphone.. each of them I been applying different type of screen protector to try them out.
It really depends on how *cheap* they are...
I purchase 4 for $1.50 on ebay.. they feel as premium as those $14 for 2 high quality one (sgp)
but they do get scratches much more easily than high quality one.
And even if you manage to not get scratches on them, they tend to get worn out in the middle due the swiping ..
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This is very true.
i boughtbthis exact screen protector and impossible to out on without scartching it all up, absolutely useless, ive put on many before with no problems
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So I received the screen protectors today. I did not apply it as I still have my Skinomi on.
Attached is how it looks like laying on top of my phone.
There IS a cutout for the sensor as you can see. However the camera is covered.
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So I received the screen protectors today. I did not apply it as I still have my Skinomi on.
Attached is how it looks like laying on top of my phone.
There IS a cutout for the sensor as you can see. However the camera is covered.
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Are you sure you didn't put it on backwards? Weirdly enough that's what I was about to comment on, it does seem to mess with the proximity sensor, as the screen will remain black during calls.
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Are you sure you didn't put it on backwards? Weirdly enough that's what I was about to comment on, it does seem to mess with the proximity sensor, as the screen will remain black during calls.
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Just cut out the corner with scissors before applying
Already done, just thought people should know though.
Omg you're right. I put it on backward. So embarrassing. Lol that cut out is for the camera.
Oh well, I'll just cut a hole for the sensors when I need to.
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Omg you're right. I put it on backward. So embarrassing. Lol that cut out is for the camera.
Oh well, I'll just cut a hole for the sensors when I need to.
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lol, I was actually wondering how you got it to stick that way, if I could have I would've kept it that way. It wouldn't bother the camera, at least not as much as it bothers the sensors.
yeah i was looking at it and my first thought was "but... the pull tab says "back" on it..."
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1081571316/rhino-shield-the-impact-resistant-screen-protector
I have said before that people who think the Nexus 4 is fragile are just irresponsible and don't know how to mind their phones...
... then I dropped the phone in my backyard. On grass. While in a TPU S-case. The screen cracked and the digitizer was unresponsive.
$120, a toolkit, and a YouTube video later; I've got a repaired phone. When I leave my house, my phone always rests in a case, whether S-case, Poetic Palette, or Poetic Slimbook. And these cases always add a noticeable amount of bulk.
I'd love to be able to use the phone caseless, but I don't want to shell out another $120 and spend another evening replacing the screen.
So... I'd be very grateful if someone would please explain to me why I shouldn't buy this. Tell me why it doesn't provide drop protection. Or that the phone would still break from a 5 foot fall into concrete. Tell me that the coverage means nothing and that edge protection is necessary if the event of a drop.
Or... you can tell me that this screen protector provides as much protection as the Poetic Palette/Rearth Ringke
I'm only asking for real advice, because I really want to go caseless, and if the Rhino Shield provides adequate drop protection, I will. 2x0.29 mm isn't too thick (0.58 mm for our slow friends) and is certainly thinner than any case possible.
P.S. If the Kickstarter is cancelled, everyone gets their money back (no scam).
I have a question.
when your phone dropped (with the S TPU) you didn't have any screen protector on?
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I have a question.
when your phone dropped (with the S TPU) you didn't have any screen protector on?
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I did not have a screen protector on.
More and extraneous detail: I had just gotten the phone replaced, as my first N4 had a faulty radio that consistently dropped cellular data. With my replacement, I left the packing film on the back, but removed the front film.
When I dropped the phone, it landed on it's back. Somehow, only the front cracked. The back remains pristine, though I have since removed that packing film.
there's your answer. put the film back on. you're welcome.
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there's your answer. put the film back on. you're welcome.
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I'm not sure if you're being facetious or you truly don't understand the point of my thread...
This Kickstarter is for a very durable screen protector that appears resilient against single point impact. However, I don't know how it fares against an actual drop. I'm particularly interested in how it would do against concrete.
I'd be very interested in using my phone without a case, and this specific screen protector boasts significantly more protection than a standard screen protector. Watch the video. Spoiler: a 255g ball bearing is dropped from 48cm onto a Gorilla Glass 2 panel with Rhino Shield and escapes intact. The same bearing is then dropped from a mere 9cm onto the same glass panel which is now using a "standard" screen protector. This time, the screen cracks all over.
However, someone who has more experience in industrial design or phone durability may be able to dispel the Rhino Shield claims. Maybe their test was not representative of an actual drop. Maybe edge protection is far more important.
One thing is certain about your advice... I'm not going to heed it!
Edit: this video is a more direct comparison, using a real phone this time. It seems very impressive, but I'm still concerned about hire important edge protection is in the case of a real world drop. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jk70XEYk53Y
Edit 2: this video actually had drop results and they seem promising. I'm going to bite the bullet and get one. I'll try to remember to update this thread in the future if my phone breaks. If I don't, assume it hasn't! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=humEMjHElG0
so basically it's a product similar to wrapsol and ~5 $ cheaper
I was joking actually but thanks for the info
AW: Ok, talk me out of buying this: Rhino Shield.
That would be seriously nice if the Kids were playing on my Device!
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Ahh, now there's a helpful post. I looked up Wrapsol protectors and found this review on Amazon:
the product was delivered very quick almost 5 days faster than expected. I bought this product on amazon since they stopped selling them in my local walmart. Couldn't be happier the full screen protector is the way to go since you get full protection with minimal size increase. I have dropped my phone probably over 150 times over the past year with this wrapsol full screen protector on it and it has yet to crack any of those times (including tile, terrazzo, and concrete).
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I've looked at the other reviews, for all kinds of iPhones, and found that Wrapsol protectors stretch over time. I really hope this doesn't happen to Rhino Shield, but I'll just make them give me a new one if that happens. I mean, it would be pretty messed up if you got a screen protector, and after a year it misaligned to the point of function loss.
I saw a post today (on another forum) about someone dropping a nexus 4 with wrapsol on it- he got out of a car and forgot the phone was on his lap, and he says the screen shattered at 3 different places.
in my opinion, these types of screen protectors may help as long as the phone doesn't fall on one of its corners.
Amazer already has one of these
http://www.amzer.com/Amzer-ShatterProof-Screen-Protector-Front-Coverage-P95221.htm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hsxl1bRTldo
their brick test is incredible...
however, the rhino is about half the price
I'm not sure how similar the rhino shield is compared to invisible shield but I've been using that on all my phones for a long time and can tell you that even on corner drops I have not had a single cracked screen. I got the full body shield installed by the guy at the mall selling it for $35. I think you can buy it without someone installing it for less.
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their brick test is incredible...
however, the rhino is about half the price
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Again, I'm quite skeptical about the rigor of these companies' testing methods. I just don't feel like the hammer and bricks tests represent real life hazards to phones. They should perform a drop test onto a hard surface, and repeat dropping until the glass shatters or they show that the screen protector really is shatterproof. I'd love to see a worst case scenario from a set of 100 trials.
From what I see if specs, Rhino is at least 50% thicker than similar shatterproof film. I just wish Rhino would release chemical info of the polymer that used
I already gave Rhino Shield my USD$24, though.
I think I am in for one
I am waiting at home for the Fed Ex truck to arrive with my repaired Nexus 4. Dropped it from 1.5 feet onto the tile in my bathroom and the front screen shattered and the digitizer stopped working. I would love to see this in a drop test but those videos look impressive. My fault for not having a case on it yet but it is ridiculous how fragile this phone is. I don't understand how Google and LG Engineering would allow this out the door like this. I could easily see some sort of class action lawsuit coming over the build robustness and I will be sure to sign up if/when it happens to get some of that $140 repair bill back. I am going to contribute to this kickstarter. Looks like they are getting close to their goal.
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I am waiting at home for the Fed Ex truck to arrive with my repaired Nexus 4. Dropped it from 1.5 feet onto the tile in my bathroom and the front screen shattered and the digitizer stopped working. I would love to see this in a drop test but those videos look impressive. My fault for not having a case on it yet but it is ridiculous how fragile this phone is. I don't understand how Google and LG Engineering would allow this out the door like this. I could easily see some sort of class action lawsuit coming over the build robustness and I will be sure to sign up if/when it happens to get some of that $140 repair bill back. I am going to contribute to this kickstarter. Looks like they are getting close to their goal.
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Everyone knows they bought a glass frint/back phone, I doubt there's going to be a class action lawsuit... Lol
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Where/how do you order one?
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Where/how do you order one?
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You can either back them on Kickstarter and choose the Nexus 4 front and back protector as a 'reward' (costs £16 to get that reward).
Alternatively you can wait for it to come into production and buy it just like any other product.
It sounds good. I might back it.
How do you all think this compares to the Fantom 4 tempered glass screen protectors? I was thinking of getting one of those.
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I'm not sure if you're being facetious or you truly don't understand the point of my thread...
This Kickstarter is for a very durable screen protector that appears resilient against single point impact. However, I don't know how it fares against an actual drop. I'm particularly interested in how it would do against concrete.
I'd be very interested in using my phone without a case, and this specific screen protector boasts significantly more protection than a standard screen protector. Watch the video. Spoiler: a 255g ball bearing is dropped from 48cm onto a Gorilla Glass 2 panel with Rhino Shield and escapes intact. The same bearing is then dropped from a mere 9cm onto the same glass panel which is now using a "standard" screen protector. This time, the screen cracks all over.
However, someone who has more experience in industrial design or phone durability may be able to dispel the Rhino Shield claims. Maybe their test was not representative of an actual drop. Maybe edge protection is far more important.
One thing is certain about your advice... I'm not going to heed it!
Edit: this video is a more direct comparison, using a real phone this time. It seems very impressive, but I'm still concerned about hire important edge protection is in the case of a real world drop. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jk70XEYk53Y
Edit 2: this video actually had drop results and they seem promising. I'm going to bite the bullet and get one. I'll try to remember to update this thread in the future if my phone breaks. If I don't, assume it hasn't! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=humEMjHElG0
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i posted in the rhino thread about the edge not being protected so there's not a lot of real drop protection. Im not and expert on phone design but if you take a look at your phones or videos of drop test, esp. the ones in slow mo, you can see that on a flat surface the phone will impact the edges most of the time. There's lots of pics of phones with shattered screens and the ones from drops usually are cracked from an edge or corner. the Nexus 4 is going to be worst than other phones because the screen curves around the bezel exposing more glass in a vulnerable area that is not covered by the screen protector. If you want drop protection get a case with lip around the screen. Get a screen protector if you dont want scratches.
Android001 said:
You can either back them on Kickstarter and choose the Nexus 4 front and back protector as a 'reward' (costs £16 to get that reward).
Alternatively you can wait for it to come into production and buy it just like any other product.
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backing a kickstarter will not guarantee you get anything, most fail even the ones with enough backing and there's no refunds with kickstarter. You are also getting an untested product until someone can get it and verify the manufacture's claims.
Honestly I don't care if you have a dome and it's the best ever. This is my experience with the dome. Sum it up. Low quality trash. Brand New sealed ordered from Whitestone out of the box it had a pretty deep scrach in it. And for how much junk Zagg is at least there product does not come out of the box scrached. Attached is an image under magnification.
Check out the glass before you install and before you remove your current protector. You are not buying quality here. I had high expectations for this but after this I'll just go back to brands that preform simple steps in quality control.
Lots of people are pleased. I for one say a scratch out of the box of a new product at this price point is 100% un acceptable. And this is the only brand that I seen this in. In my experience this is the lowest quality glass out for the note 9. Yeah Zagg has some poor design choices like edge adhesive and on the elite the black borders. But the glass is flawless and clear. Unlike this Whitestone.
If you can't spot a scratch that deep I now question the quality of the optical adhesive they use. I work in the optoelectronics industry. I use optical adhesive pretty often so I'm going to check out the other tube and see how it stacks up against the stuff I use.
Full review will cover the unboxing, install as well as that moment that I discover that scrach with my reaction lol. Also high res images of the scratch along with precise mesurements of it. And why I have it at work I'll be going more into the glass using some of the equipment we have here.
If the dome you got is flawless that's great. I'm happy for you. However that's not my experience with this product. my review is a sample size of 1. There are way they could of protected the glass like other manufacturer's do but they cut that corner and lowered product quality to keep cost down. After all the reviews I bought with confidence and received a damaged product. I have contacted Whitestone about this but I will say that Zagg offered to send out a elite free to replace the one I took off and said that I should not be punished for buying into the hype and the note 9 deserves a quality product to protect the best display on a smartphone. That says alot about Zagg by eliminating the shipping. We will see how Whitestone handles this. If they send out a replacement that is a representation of what others have prazed I would be more then happy. But I think they are going to try and play the pay to ship that back, then pay for shipping on another product so we can ring even more money out of you. But sorry guys. You burned me one time. You won't burn me again.
Again. I haven't seen anyone else with this issue. As far as I know this is a single case. There may be more who knows but I'll be 100% honest in this. The picture was taken under magnification to show it's not just a scratch in the oleophobic coating. From a picture you can't feel the scratch catch your finger nail when you rub it. If Whitestone decides to take care of this issue I will update this post with how they handled it and there response. Until then for all those who are ocd about there displays. This is what a scratch looks like.
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Whitestone is in communication on how to make this right. I have discovered another issue. This is with the oleophobic coating. One spot has some heat damage. I sent them this picture to see how this could happen in there process.
Working in the optoelectronics industry for years. I look forward to offering them some input on how to keep things like these from hurting there brand to new potential customers. First product from them and as of right now the last. I pay for the premium product I demand a premium product. I will keep this update with there solution on this matter and what they think can cause the issues.
The scratch I believe was cased when after inspection when placed in the bag. The bag is not optics quality and being so is may contain debris. Example out air cans we use are not normal dust cans. They are filtered to sub micron purity. There's quality and then optical quality. When placed in the bag the scratch was formed. Protective film would ensure that never happens or optical quality bags. Corner was cut and the product suffered. That's a fact. As for the oleophobic coating. I would need more info on there production line. I have a theory of what could cause that. I have seen similar issues with microscope optical coatings on production equipment.
So far they have replied quickly and seem eager to make things right and assure me that the product meets there quality standards.
I think when finished I will have the most in depth review of this. Since I had to take it to work for pictures I was able to test the included adhesive, cure light optical power and make exact cure times required for a full proper cure. Mesure the thickness of the adhesive layer under the glass and other stuff. It's probably going to be about a 30-45min video I will post on YouTube. If interested I am willing to do the same for other protectors if there is interest. Since most reviews are just stick it on and it fits so it must be the best. We can dive into things a bit more and actually look at the product.
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Told to use the warranty form online. Pictures were sent to there hq in Korea. They made a coupon code that will wave the shipping. Excellent support.
User error.
bignazpwns said:
Honestly I don't care if you have a dome and it's the best ever. This is my experience with the dome. Sum it up. Low quality trash. Brand New sealed ordered from Whitestone out of the box it had a pretty deep scrach in it. And for how much junk Zagg is at least there product does not come out of the box scrached.
Check out the glass before you install and before you remove your current protector. You are not buying quality here. I had high expectations for this but after this I'll just go back to brands that preform simple steps in quality control.
Lots of people are pleased. I for one say a scratch out of the box of a new product at this price point is 100% un acceptable. And this is the only brand that I seen this in. In my experience this is the lowest quality glass out for the note 9. Yeah Zagg has some poor design choices like edge adhesive and on the elite the black borders. But the glass is flawless and clear. Unlike this Whitestone.
If you can't spot a scratch that deep I now question the quality of the optical adhesive they use. I work in the optoelectronics industry. I use optical adhesive pretty often so I'm going to check out the other tube and see how it stacks up against the stuff I use.
Full review will cover the unboxing, install as well as that moment that I discover that scrach with my reaction lol. Also high res images of the scratch along with precise mesurements of it. And why I have it at work I'll be going more into the glass using some of the equipment we have here.
If the dome you got is flawless that's great. I'm happy for you. However that's not my experience with this product. my review is a sample size of 1. There are way they could of protected the glass like other manufacturer's do but they cut that corner and lowered product quality to keep cost down. After all the reviews I bought with confidence and received a damaged product. I have contacted Whitestone about this but I will say that Zagg offered to send out a elite free to replace the one I took off and said that I should not be punished for buying into the hype and the note 9 deserves a quality product to protect the best display on a smartphone. That says alot about Zagg by eliminating the shipping. We will see how Whitestone handles this. If they send out a replacement that is a representation of what others have prazed I would be more then happy. But I think they are going to try and play the pay to ship that back, then pay for shipping on another product so we can ring even more money out of you. But sorry guys. You burned me one time. You won't burn me again.
Again. I haven't seen anyone else with this issue. As far as I know this is a single case. There may be more who knows but I'll be 100% honest in this. The picture was taken under magnification to show it's not just a scratch in the oleophobic coating. From a picture you can't feel the scratch catch your finger nail when you rub it. If Whitestone decides to take care of this issue I will update this post with how they handled it and there response. Until then for all those who are ocd about there displays. This is what a scratch looks like.
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Mine was scratched pretty deeply as well out of the box. I just don't feel like going through the installation process again, so I guess I'll just keep it as long as I can without it driving me crazy.
I advise everyone to inspect the glass of the protector before installing.
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User error because there was a scratch?? You sound like a troll.
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User error.
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I'm sorry to hear that. It's not hard to put on. Maybe next time you would take your time and you won't have user error.
Update they messaged me me back seeing how we can fix this. I told them what I think caused this on there end but I have another issue and asked them about there quality control. Needed info as if I tell my subs to buy something it's of quality. No excuses for this.
I'm not mad about the scratch. Gave me content and for the first time ever the dome is getting looked at. And if we cannot get crazy I can fire up the Scanning electron microscope and we can dive into it lol.
Just for reference. Was your scratch 1/4 inch under the bixby button and to the right 1/4 inch going vertically?
bignazpwns said:
I'm sorry to hear that. It's not hard to put on. Maybe next time you would take your time and you won't have user error.
Update they messaged me me back seeing how we can fix this. I told them what I think caused this on there end but I have another issue and asked them about there quality control. Needed info as if I tell my subs to buy something it's of quality. No excuses for this.
I'm not mad about the scratch. Gave me content and for the first time ever the dome is getting looked at. And if we cannot get crazy I can fire up the Scanning electron microscope and we can dive into it lol.
Just for reference. Was your scratch 1/4 inch under the bixby button and to the right 1/4 inch going vertically?
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Scan the note 9 screen with the electron microscope. Would like to see pics .
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Scan the note 9 screen with the electron microscope. Would like to see pics .
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People are using our Scanning electron right now but here are some high magnification images from out just microscope.
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People are using our Scanning electron right now but here are some high magnification images from out just microscope.
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That's amazing. Any chance in showing some glass defects?
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People are using our Scanning electron right now but here are some high magnification images from out just microscope.
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One more
Limeybastard said:
That's amazing. Any chance in showing some glass defects?
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What kind of defects do you wanna see?
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What kind of defects do you wanna see?
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Factory ones. Ones that the eye cannot see. Perhaps in the glass areas and also th frame . Especially the area where the glass meets the frame , the so called gap.
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Limeybastard said:
Factory ones. Ones that the eye cannot see. Perhaps in the glass areas and also th frame . Especially the area where the glass meets the frame , the so called gap.
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Yeah I'll get see I day or two and I'll start a thread for it.
My experience from the Dome Glass... I ordered the 2 Pack from Amazon, I got the package a little bit wet from the LOCA glue. I successfully installed the glass on my N9, but it had a small scratch on it that I noticed after I turned on the UV light to dry the glue. After about one week little cracks appeared in the glue I contact Amazon and they replaced it (had to sent it back). Now I have the new one on my screen for 3 weeks and everything is good. I hope it will stay that way.
When it works it's the best screen protector I have ever had (and I had them all).
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My experience from the Dome Glass... I ordered the 2 Pack from Amazon, I got the package a little bit wet from the LOCA glue. I successfully installed the glass on my N9, but it had a small scratch on it that I noticed after I turned on the UV light to dry the glue. After about one week little cracks appeared in the glue I contact Amazon and they replaced it (had to sent it back). Now I have the new one on my screen for 3 weeks and everything is good. I hope it will stay that way.
When it works it's the best screen protector I have ever had (and I had them all).
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There support was fast. From what I seen I rate this a 3 on a scale to 5. The oleophobic coating is absolutely trash. But we'll see how it is on the replacement since I know there is a defect in this units coating. I'll give my final opinion on it when the replacement comes in and will compare the quality of the glass and coating to some other brands.