http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1081571316/rhino-shield-the-impact-resistant-screen-protector
I have said before that people who think the Nexus 4 is fragile are just irresponsible and don't know how to mind their phones...
... then I dropped the phone in my backyard. On grass. While in a TPU S-case. The screen cracked and the digitizer was unresponsive.
$120, a toolkit, and a YouTube video later; I've got a repaired phone. When I leave my house, my phone always rests in a case, whether S-case, Poetic Palette, or Poetic Slimbook. And these cases always add a noticeable amount of bulk.
I'd love to be able to use the phone caseless, but I don't want to shell out another $120 and spend another evening replacing the screen.
So... I'd be very grateful if someone would please explain to me why I shouldn't buy this. Tell me why it doesn't provide drop protection. Or that the phone would still break from a 5 foot fall into concrete. Tell me that the coverage means nothing and that edge protection is necessary if the event of a drop.
Or... you can tell me that this screen protector provides as much protection as the Poetic Palette/Rearth Ringke
I'm only asking for real advice, because I really want to go caseless, and if the Rhino Shield provides adequate drop protection, I will. 2x0.29 mm isn't too thick (0.58 mm for our slow friends) and is certainly thinner than any case possible.
P.S. If the Kickstarter is cancelled, everyone gets their money back (no scam).
I have a question.
when your phone dropped (with the S TPU) you didn't have any screen protector on?
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I have a question.
when your phone dropped (with the S TPU) you didn't have any screen protector on?
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I did not have a screen protector on.
More and extraneous detail: I had just gotten the phone replaced, as my first N4 had a faulty radio that consistently dropped cellular data. With my replacement, I left the packing film on the back, but removed the front film.
When I dropped the phone, it landed on it's back. Somehow, only the front cracked. The back remains pristine, though I have since removed that packing film.
there's your answer. put the film back on. you're welcome.
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there's your answer. put the film back on. you're welcome.
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I'm not sure if you're being facetious or you truly don't understand the point of my thread...
This Kickstarter is for a very durable screen protector that appears resilient against single point impact. However, I don't know how it fares against an actual drop. I'm particularly interested in how it would do against concrete.
I'd be very interested in using my phone without a case, and this specific screen protector boasts significantly more protection than a standard screen protector. Watch the video. Spoiler: a 255g ball bearing is dropped from 48cm onto a Gorilla Glass 2 panel with Rhino Shield and escapes intact. The same bearing is then dropped from a mere 9cm onto the same glass panel which is now using a "standard" screen protector. This time, the screen cracks all over.
However, someone who has more experience in industrial design or phone durability may be able to dispel the Rhino Shield claims. Maybe their test was not representative of an actual drop. Maybe edge protection is far more important.
One thing is certain about your advice... I'm not going to heed it!
Edit: this video is a more direct comparison, using a real phone this time. It seems very impressive, but I'm still concerned about hire important edge protection is in the case of a real world drop. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jk70XEYk53Y
Edit 2: this video actually had drop results and they seem promising. I'm going to bite the bullet and get one. I'll try to remember to update this thread in the future if my phone breaks. If I don't, assume it hasn't! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=humEMjHElG0
so basically it's a product similar to wrapsol and ~5 $ cheaper
I was joking actually but thanks for the info
AW: Ok, talk me out of buying this: Rhino Shield.
That would be seriously nice if the Kids were playing on my Device!
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so basically it's a product similar to wrapsol and ~5 $ cheaper
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Ahh, now there's a helpful post. I looked up Wrapsol protectors and found this review on Amazon:
the product was delivered very quick almost 5 days faster than expected. I bought this product on amazon since they stopped selling them in my local walmart. Couldn't be happier the full screen protector is the way to go since you get full protection with minimal size increase. I have dropped my phone probably over 150 times over the past year with this wrapsol full screen protector on it and it has yet to crack any of those times (including tile, terrazzo, and concrete).
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I've looked at the other reviews, for all kinds of iPhones, and found that Wrapsol protectors stretch over time. I really hope this doesn't happen to Rhino Shield, but I'll just make them give me a new one if that happens. I mean, it would be pretty messed up if you got a screen protector, and after a year it misaligned to the point of function loss.
I saw a post today (on another forum) about someone dropping a nexus 4 with wrapsol on it- he got out of a car and forgot the phone was on his lap, and he says the screen shattered at 3 different places.
in my opinion, these types of screen protectors may help as long as the phone doesn't fall on one of its corners.
Amazer already has one of these
http://www.amzer.com/Amzer-ShatterProof-Screen-Protector-Front-Coverage-P95221.htm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hsxl1bRTldo
their brick test is incredible...
however, the rhino is about half the price
I'm not sure how similar the rhino shield is compared to invisible shield but I've been using that on all my phones for a long time and can tell you that even on corner drops I have not had a single cracked screen. I got the full body shield installed by the guy at the mall selling it for $35. I think you can buy it without someone installing it for less.
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their brick test is incredible...
however, the rhino is about half the price
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Again, I'm quite skeptical about the rigor of these companies' testing methods. I just don't feel like the hammer and bricks tests represent real life hazards to phones. They should perform a drop test onto a hard surface, and repeat dropping until the glass shatters or they show that the screen protector really is shatterproof. I'd love to see a worst case scenario from a set of 100 trials.
From what I see if specs, Rhino is at least 50% thicker than similar shatterproof film. I just wish Rhino would release chemical info of the polymer that used
I already gave Rhino Shield my USD$24, though.
I think I am in for one
I am waiting at home for the Fed Ex truck to arrive with my repaired Nexus 4. Dropped it from 1.5 feet onto the tile in my bathroom and the front screen shattered and the digitizer stopped working. I would love to see this in a drop test but those videos look impressive. My fault for not having a case on it yet but it is ridiculous how fragile this phone is. I don't understand how Google and LG Engineering would allow this out the door like this. I could easily see some sort of class action lawsuit coming over the build robustness and I will be sure to sign up if/when it happens to get some of that $140 repair bill back. I am going to contribute to this kickstarter. Looks like they are getting close to their goal.
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I am waiting at home for the Fed Ex truck to arrive with my repaired Nexus 4. Dropped it from 1.5 feet onto the tile in my bathroom and the front screen shattered and the digitizer stopped working. I would love to see this in a drop test but those videos look impressive. My fault for not having a case on it yet but it is ridiculous how fragile this phone is. I don't understand how Google and LG Engineering would allow this out the door like this. I could easily see some sort of class action lawsuit coming over the build robustness and I will be sure to sign up if/when it happens to get some of that $140 repair bill back. I am going to contribute to this kickstarter. Looks like they are getting close to their goal.
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Everyone knows they bought a glass frint/back phone, I doubt there's going to be a class action lawsuit... Lol
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Where/how do you order one?
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Where/how do you order one?
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You can either back them on Kickstarter and choose the Nexus 4 front and back protector as a 'reward' (costs £16 to get that reward).
Alternatively you can wait for it to come into production and buy it just like any other product.
It sounds good. I might back it.
How do you all think this compares to the Fantom 4 tempered glass screen protectors? I was thinking of getting one of those.
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I'm not sure if you're being facetious or you truly don't understand the point of my thread...
This Kickstarter is for a very durable screen protector that appears resilient against single point impact. However, I don't know how it fares against an actual drop. I'm particularly interested in how it would do against concrete.
I'd be very interested in using my phone without a case, and this specific screen protector boasts significantly more protection than a standard screen protector. Watch the video. Spoiler: a 255g ball bearing is dropped from 48cm onto a Gorilla Glass 2 panel with Rhino Shield and escapes intact. The same bearing is then dropped from a mere 9cm onto the same glass panel which is now using a "standard" screen protector. This time, the screen cracks all over.
However, someone who has more experience in industrial design or phone durability may be able to dispel the Rhino Shield claims. Maybe their test was not representative of an actual drop. Maybe edge protection is far more important.
One thing is certain about your advice... I'm not going to heed it!
Edit: this video is a more direct comparison, using a real phone this time. It seems very impressive, but I'm still concerned about hire important edge protection is in the case of a real world drop. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jk70XEYk53Y
Edit 2: this video actually had drop results and they seem promising. I'm going to bite the bullet and get one. I'll try to remember to update this thread in the future if my phone breaks. If I don't, assume it hasn't! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=humEMjHElG0
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i posted in the rhino thread about the edge not being protected so there's not a lot of real drop protection. Im not and expert on phone design but if you take a look at your phones or videos of drop test, esp. the ones in slow mo, you can see that on a flat surface the phone will impact the edges most of the time. There's lots of pics of phones with shattered screens and the ones from drops usually are cracked from an edge or corner. the Nexus 4 is going to be worst than other phones because the screen curves around the bezel exposing more glass in a vulnerable area that is not covered by the screen protector. If you want drop protection get a case with lip around the screen. Get a screen protector if you dont want scratches.
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You can either back them on Kickstarter and choose the Nexus 4 front and back protector as a 'reward' (costs £16 to get that reward).
Alternatively you can wait for it to come into production and buy it just like any other product.
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backing a kickstarter will not guarantee you get anything, most fail even the ones with enough backing and there's no refunds with kickstarter. You are also getting an untested product until someone can get it and verify the manufacture's claims.
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I got my Desire HD just yesterday and before I make the big switch from my trusty G1 and wanted to install this protection that I have had for a good few weeks now.
The full body protector set I got consisted of one for the screen, a main back part, sim card slot and battery slot. It came with a spare set too.
To be honest, I'll cut to the chase. The installation was like any other full body installation in that you've got to keep your hands wet with the sopy solution (I had a spray bottle left over from a Bodyguardz set I had for my HD2 I once had). You must ensure you peel the parts off carefully making sure you don't stretch them. Bearing this in mind and being experienced in fitting this type of protection, I found the 'cut' of it to be poor.
The protection isn't "full" in my opinion. It doesn't stretch round the edges and corners therefore the most vulnerable areas to scratches and knocks is not protected. But worst of all, the deal breaker for me, was the battery cover area. I first realised that the main back part wasn't going to fit correctly when trying to put it on. The design of the protection have wrongly measured the battery cover slot and they believe it to be smaller than it is. This means that I had to cut a little bit away from the main back part. Consequently, the little piece of protector that goes on to the battery cover was too short and again means it does not provide "full" protection. The screen protection, I would of hoped, could of covered the whole thing right up to the earpiece grill but it just covers the screen.
Whether or not the screen will be less responsive, it tints yellow after time or shows any other aspect of poor build quality, time shall tell and I will edit this review accordingly.
So it is in my opinion to wait for another brand to release, InvisbleShield is in my sights as soon as its available.
Any questions, Ill be more than happy to answer
Thanks for the review but it'd me much better If you could share the front screen as well.
BTW you can purchase bestskinsever (BSE) DIY size and cut out any shaped as you need. Especially for that battery cover, you can solve yhe problem with BSE
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Thanks for the review but it'd me much better If you could share the front screen as well.
BTW you can purchase bestskinsever (BSE) DIY size and cut out any shaped as you need. Especially for that battery cover, you can solve yhe problem with BSE
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Hi there, sorry yeah I'll upload a pic of the screen tonight. Kinda rushed the review earlier today just before work!
Thanks for the tip about Bestskinever though I think Im going to wait for Invisibleshield or hope that Bodyguardz produce one soon. I really like that for my old HD2
I bought mine, arrived today, it was awful, do not buy, it's stupid. I scrunched it up, do you want a picture of that? £10 down the drain.........oh well, it happens. =D
Zagg Invisible shield
I believe the Zagg invisible shield is already available. when you go to the Zagg web site, just search for HTC desire HD, and it should bring you to the site. I just ordered Maximum protection for AUS $18 (including shipping), but that's after 50% voucher. You can look for it here, and maybe post a request (im sure someone will be nice enough to share.) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=664386
I do believe the Zagg quality is better (including the cut).
Ive contacted ZAGG about suppliers in Europe and this is what they answered me
Thank you for contacting ZAGG, where we are zealous about great gadgets! My name is Dez G and I appreciate the opportunity to assist you.
We ship to most places all over the world, I see no reason why we would have a problem shipping to your area. You can find a list of local re-sellers in your area via the following link. My best suggestion is to contact these re-sellers for prices. Please note that we can not offer refunds on ZAGG purchases made outside of our website but if you need any of your items replaced under the lifetime, or 1 year replacement warranty we would be happy to assist you.
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I got my Desire HD just yesterday and before I make the big switch from my trusty G1 and wanted to install this protection that I have had for a good few weeks now.
The full body protector set I got consisted of one for the screen, a main back part, sim card slot and battery slot. It came with a spare set too.
To be honest, I'll cut to the chase. The installation was like any other full body installation in that you've got to keep your hands wet with the sopy solution (I had a spray bottle left over from a Bodyguardz set I had for my HD2 I once had). You must ensure you peel the parts off carefully making sure you don't stretch them. Bearing this in mind and being experienced in fitting this type of protection, I found the 'cut' of it to be poor.
The protection isn't "full" in my opinion. It doesn't stretch round the edges and corners therefore the most vulnerable areas to scratches and knocks is not protected. But worst of all, the deal breaker for me, was the battery cover area. I first realised that the main back part wasn't going to fit correctly when trying to put it on. The design of the protection have wrongly measured the battery cover slot and they believe it to be smaller than it is. This means that I had to cut a little bit away from the main back part. Consequently, the little piece of protector that goes on to the battery cover was too short and again means it does not provide "full" protection. The screen protection, I would of hoped, could of covered the whole thing right up to the earpiece grill but it just covers the screen.
Whether or not the screen will be less responsive, it tints yellow after time or shows any other aspect of poor build quality, time shall tell and I will edit this review accordingly.
So it is in my opinion to wait for another brand to release, InvisbleShield is in my sights as soon as its available.
Any questions, Ill be more than happy to answer
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It really looks bad.
Ethania said:
It really looks bad.
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It is
I only installed it to have some form of protection without covering the phone. Hoping Invisibleshields attempt will be better, probs will buy one soon!
Edit: Ive just emailed them asking how much protection their best product offers. Heres hoping thatit covers the phone entirely, edges included!
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Ive contacted ZAGG about suppliers in Europe and this is what they answered me
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If they make it like their iPhone 4 full body protection - don't bother . The size is wrong by 1-2mm, the cuts for the speaker, button, etc, also don't match the actual size (see the attached picture). I installed just the front and back protectors on my wife's iPhone, because seeing how wrong they are on the plain flat surface, I don't want to know what they did with the curvy edges... I ordered some original HTC protectors for my DHD because IMO they are the perfect cut and with some luck I'll manage to install one of them without any bubles (it's not impossible - I did it on the Touch HD).
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Why cant you just ordered directly from their official sites? dont need to go through their resellers. Dont think it's much cheaper to get from their local resellers. Considering you can also get discount vouchers from nice people in this forum. Shipping is not expensive (only cost me $5).
Stupid me! I bought 2 pairs before you! I got my phone about two weeks now, so I decided to have some temporary protection until something better comes out.
And after installing the first one I really felt like I was fooled its so ugly and it doesnt fit well so I decided to sent the 2nd one back the morning after... but too late my mom had already throwed the 2nd one in the recycling bin...
Now Im searching for a cheap but good quality silicone case and a cheap look a like the default HTC leather case, cause I think Ive spent enough on screen protectors!
btw my phone has still the devdef protection on it and I have to admit, it has 2 pros
* No sign of condense
* Stretchy protector
but its 100% NOT scratch proof
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Stupid me! I bought 2 pairs before you! I got my phone about two weeks now, so I decided to have some temporary protection until something better comes out.
And after installing the first one I really felt like I was fooled its so ugly and it doesnt fit well so I decided to sent the 2nd one back the morning after... but too late my mom had already throwed the 2nd one in the recycling bin...
Now Im searching for a cheap but good quality silicone case and a cheap look a like the default HTC leather case, cause I think Ive spent enough on screen protectors!
btw my phone has still the devdef protection on it and I have to admit, it has 2 pros
* No sign of condense
* Stretchy protector
but its 100% NOT scratch proof
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I hate silicone cover more than anything, but try this mate, only £2.95, but I promise that this is the best protection out for the Desire HD so far, await the case-mate barely there if you want a metal, as I am doing, I got conned by this stupid DevDef protection!
COMPLETE FAIL. Is this phone too fragile?
Less than 48 hours ownership... Bent down to tie my shoe, phone falls 24 inches from breast pocket, screen totally obliterated and unresponsive. Phone is bricked. Can't unlock. Can't retrieve data. Can't answer calls or read texts or SILENCE ALARMS!!!
This fragility is totally unacceptable. I carried a DROID MAXX HD for 2-1/2 years with only a 3M film screen protector. The MAXX HD suffered numerous cringing falls and rebounds off my foot skittering across asphalt and concrete. Never a scratch on that screen.
I don't see any 3M film screen protectors for the MXPE, only tempered glass. It seems to me that film is superior. Hard tempered glass protectors would seem to transfer shock while plastic film deforms and absorbs shock.
MOTO CARE SUCKS (so far). I immediately purchased Moto Care online (which advertises retroactive coverage if purchased within thirty days). But the Moto web site did not immediately recognize my purchase. Spoke to three uninformative customer (non-) service representatives (with heavy language barriers).
The third rep told me my Moto Care would take up to ten days for "delivery". WHAT? There is nothing to ship! Further, the Moto Care purchase FAQ says nothing about "delivery" delays. The rep says "sorry", there's nothing he can do.
Next day, my Moto Care package magically "appears" on the Moto web site under "My Stuff" and so I click the "Repair" button. I enter all my details and make payment. Now, it's almost been a week and there's no sign of life. I click "Track Repair" and enter my RMA number. Nothing. So, then I attempt to track using my IMEI number. Nothing. Finally, I try it again using my phone number and zip code. Surprise---that one works and I can see I have a repair order, but it's all blanks under "Replacement device, date shipped, etc."
How many days to get a replacement? Who knows.
Any other aftermarket sources to replace a cracked screen?
I have a film based screen protector. Several options at Amazon. Your experience seems very odd. Is your post a repost? Seems like I've seen it before.
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I have a film based screen protector. Several options at Amazon. Your experience seems very odd. Is your post a repost? Seems like I've seen it before.
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I've occasionally dropped every phone I've ever owned without damage. This phone literally obliterated from a short drop. Do I have to wrap it in a pillow? I'll check Amazon for film protectors, thanks. Not a re-post here.
Go on you guys, wish for even smaller bezels, less protruding chassis and more "edge" effect on the rounded, exposed glassy front surface, larger screens and thinner devices.
Can't cheat physiscs. Where there is no crash zone there is no crash zone.
Nexus 5x prime example: cheap (but soft, dampening) plastic and screen is sunken in. Or Sony, with the rubbery corners on their devices.
The more of the above comes true, the less shock absorbent the devices become. I dont care about a 1mm or 2mm bezel or a crappy unhandy edged glass surface if this means more spiderman-app and less funtime with the device. And I want to make all sh**heads shut up which cry for all of the above, producing crystal cellphones as a consequence. Go get and shatter your iPhones if you want useless, easily breakable, expensive jewellery. I try to actually use and not only show off my devices.
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...I dont care about a 1mm or 2mm bezel or a crappy unhandy edged glass surface if this means more spiderman-app and less funtime with the device. And I want to make all sh**heads shut up which cry for all of the above, producing crystal cellphones as a consequence. ...
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HEAR, HEAR!!! I'd pay $100 more for a THICKER, HEAVIER device with diamond plate bezel, thick long-lasting battery, and non-ridiculous connectors (i.e, cheap, flimsy USB jacks)---Do you hear me, you USB Implementers Forum designers??? When are you going to design a hardy connector???? USB-C is another disaster design with no thought toward ruggedness. But, oh boy, it plugs in both ways... yippeee!!! NOT.
I actually think there'd be a huge market for a ruggedized military-looking device ("tactical" is the buzz word among the gun/hunter crowd). Slim jewelry phones are for the 21-year old ladies who walk between bars in winter with 4-inch skirts and no sleeves on, and maybe for dentists and lawyers and West Hollywood types. I need a man phone.
Ugh... One tiny drop in the wrong spot will damage any device. Don't drop it, or put a case on it, that simple.
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Don't drop it.
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Simply unacceptable for those who physically work for a living. And, like I said, my MAXX HD survived dozens of drops. I don't feel I should have to expect a 24-inch drop will destroy a phone.
Sorry to hear about your experience. But when the screen glass makes up an edge of the phone then it isnt going to survive drop into hard surfaces. This is why they included a bumper in the box. Keep in mind these things are made of glass and delicate electronics. It would be wise to temper your expectations. I agree about Motorola's customer service. It leaves EVERYTHING to be desired.
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It would be wise to temper your expectations.
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Probably so. My expectations were shaped by my previous device. Can I get a 5.7" MAXX HD 2015 please?
SLORider said:
Probably so. My expectations were shaped by my previous device. Can I get a 5.7" MAXX HD 2015 please?
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If you are on Verizon look at the Droid turbo 2. Has a5.43-inch QHD display that is said to be shatterproof, Snapdragon 810 with either 32/64GB of storage, along with a 3,760mAh battery.
All of that great stuff negated by being tied to Verizon.
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All of that great stuff negated by being tied to Verizon.
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OP had a Droid MAXX so at one point was on Verizon. Say what you will VZW is still unmatched in coverage area I've had them for 16 years will not change unless I can get my UDP through someone else with no throttling. I use 400Gb/month thanks to root and tether my phone is my ISP no cable bill is awesome.
If you want a phone to last, get a case for it.
I've had 5 smartphones, dropped them all, never had any damage to any of them... Because I've always had them in a £3 case!
Better value than insurance lol.
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I've dropped my MXPE from a couple a feet up and it has lived to tell the tale. I only use the provided bumper, lucky I guess. Sorry to hear about your clusterf*** of a time trying to get a replacement. Good luck.
Breaking a phone screen its pure luck, i had a X 2014 which i dropped SO MANY TIMES and never ever had a problem
Then 1 night, a 10inch drop and BAM screen broken.
And why are you assuming your experience its the general situation with the phone ? I dropped this phone the other day from about the same height, not even a scratch or something thanks to the bumper that came in.
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Oh I feel ya @Sasquatch8600 (the app's not letting me quote). I've been with Verizon for 13 years...I just don't think I'll ever get another phone tied to them, or any carrier for that matter. Verizon keeps those phones super locked up and their update history isn't very stellar.
My wife dropped mine about 3 feet while on a cruise last week and my i-blaison case protected it. It hit a metal strip on the edge of a step.
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Mine dropped from about 8 feet, with the included bumper, hitting stuff on the way down. Not a scratch on it. I was very surprised. And lucky, I know. Like someone stated earlier, it's really how it falls/lands.
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My eldest knocked mine out of my hand this afternoon, 3ft drop onto a wooden floor, landed corner first.
Case did its job, not a mark on it.
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MOTO SUCKS BECAUSE I DROPPED MY PHONE WITHOUT A CASE ON IT AND IT BROKE! :crying::crying::crying:
MOTO CARE SUCKS BECAUSE THEY ARENT BENDING OVER BACKWARDS TO SELL INSURANCE TO A BROKEN DEVICE! :crying::crying::crying:
I have dropped my MXPE everyday for a month from varying heights including a second story balcony to a cement floor.. Want to know my secret??
A FRICKING CASE YOU IDIOT.
Cry me a frickin river for your first world problems.
Just dropped my S7 Edge getting out the car flat on the face and heard the loud sound of gorilla glass you are familiar with in drop test videos. The screen is fine with just a few sand grain sized scratches where the ridged rock pavement hit.
First time I've scratched a new device the first week. My soul died a little inside. Lucky this screen still feels smooth and only when looking for the scratches can I see them and I can't feel them with my finger nail without effort.
sorry to hear that, I have been using those wet install screen protectors just incase
I heard they made the glass stronger but its more likely to get scratches
Wear it with pride. Your phone just has some character now.
Some ugly character, but mine slipped out my pocket when I sat down on some steps. Hit left corner, I know the next day I went and got an otterbox symmetry for it!
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Just dropped my S7 Edge getting out the car flat on the face and heard the loud sound of gorilla glass you are familiar with in drop test videos. The screen is fine with just a few sand grain sized scratches where the ridged rock pavement hit.
First time I've scratched a new device the first week. My soul died a little inside. Lucky this screen still feels smooth and only when looking for the scratches can I see them and I can't feel them with my finger nail without effort.
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That hurts my heart. The last time I did that was with the HTC MYTOUCH 4G back in the day. Same way to driving, talking and put phone on lap. Forgot about it and jumped out the car at gas station phone goes screen down but my story did not end like yours. My screen was shattered it every possible area lol. Nice these are much tougher.
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Well 2014 i had preordered my galaxy note 4 and got it a week early. The next day i dropped it and cracked the screen lol. At the time no cases were available so i was out of luck
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Whenever I drop a device I just pick it up without looking at it and just put it in my pocket and check it out later when I cooled down
Dropped mine yesterday for the first time. Literally from about 2 feet just sitting in a chair. I'm so pissed.
Oh my I hope you have some kind of insurance for that. Sorry that looks very bad with that amount of damage I don't think the water resistance will work.
Use a case, these are fragile phones and before you get into the it takes away from the beautiful design...blah blah look at the picture two posts above.
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Dropped mine yesterday for the first time. Literally from about 2 feet just sitting in a chair. I'm so pissed.
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Ouch!
Yeah I totaled my phone about two weeks ago, already got a replacement tho. I'm now sporting a zagg screen protector and otterbox case. One interesting thing I noticed was that despite my screen having many cracks in it there wasn't a single scratch on the glass. So the glass is much more scratch proof than before
IQ Shield is a clone of Zagg at half the price. I can't tell the difference between the two products. I'm happy with the Spigen premium bumper case I got for my S7e also.
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IQ Shield is a clone of Zagg at half the price. I can't tell the difference between the two products. I'm happy with the Spigen premium bumper case I got for my S7e also.
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My Zagg shield keeps popping out from the top because of my case. Not the best fit in my opinion I would of muched rather have seen the whole screen covered. But I'm learning not to give a Sht. Just ordered the "super chrome" slickwrap for my silver S7 edge. Man it gone blind some motorists. At least now it will protect the back glass while looking even glossier. I'm a shiny guy
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My Zagg shield keeps popping out from the top because of my case. Not the best fit in my opinion I would of muched rather have seen the whole screen covered. But I'm learning not to give a Sht. Just ordered the "super chrome" slickwrap for my silver S7 edge. Man it gone blind some motorists. At least now it will protect the back glass while looking even glossier. I'm a shiny guy
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The case I have doesn't interfere with the screen protector. The important thing about applying those Zagg like screen protectors is the surface must be 100% free of oil and grease from handling.
I have always used skinomi, and i always will. That is all.
My Zagg shield is yellowish...ew
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Guys i learned before even buying a new phone especially the s7 Edge? Have a case and a good screen protector head of time. So u can have it all ready when u get the phone in hand!!
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Guys i learned before even buying a new phone especially the s7 Edge? Have a case and a good screen protector head of time. So u can have it all ready when u get the phone in hand!!
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I had a Spigen case for the S7E (and a shield I had not installed yet) and managed to drop it off front porch. From5 feet it fell another 1-2 feet and bounced off wood step then bounce off of down-sloping cement walkway into the grass. It did not make contact with the glass, and did not even scratch the case. Took the phone out, and no damage to the body at all.
The phone out of the case is very slippery, so was surprised when this happened. Dropped it the same way I broke a screen on a Note 2 a few years back - taking a picture. In that instance, I was reimbursed full price by AMEX, even though it could be (and was) repaired. I had paid full price at that time for the phone.
This time I am doing the 24 month payment plan (for two phones) - and after almost smoking it, I did some thinking. I had paid a down-payment on one, and was getting ready to make the first payment through BOA e-billing and realized I needed to also pay the first three months with the same AMEX card in case I had a claim during the 90 reimbursement period. In this case, they would reimburse the amount I had paid and pay the rest directly to Tmo.(or maybe to a repair shop if they insist on going that way).
So for any other butter fingered owners who bought it with the payment plan and with a credit card with a replacement period guarantee - make sure you pay at least the monthly amount due for the device during that period covered with the same card. Just to be safe, I just paid TMo 3 months on both devices separate from my regular payment.
Still can't believe I dropped it - thank you Spigen! And better bet the scree protector on soon.
I am still thinking of selling it and getting a 935FD on eBay (damn you Samsung for locking the bootloader). Getting it paid by insurance would be easier, but I will not deliberately do that. But still have 2 more months of coverage....
Honestly I don't care if you have a dome and it's the best ever. This is my experience with the dome. Sum it up. Low quality trash. Brand New sealed ordered from Whitestone out of the box it had a pretty deep scrach in it. And for how much junk Zagg is at least there product does not come out of the box scrached. Attached is an image under magnification.
Check out the glass before you install and before you remove your current protector. You are not buying quality here. I had high expectations for this but after this I'll just go back to brands that preform simple steps in quality control.
Lots of people are pleased. I for one say a scratch out of the box of a new product at this price point is 100% un acceptable. And this is the only brand that I seen this in. In my experience this is the lowest quality glass out for the note 9. Yeah Zagg has some poor design choices like edge adhesive and on the elite the black borders. But the glass is flawless and clear. Unlike this Whitestone.
If you can't spot a scratch that deep I now question the quality of the optical adhesive they use. I work in the optoelectronics industry. I use optical adhesive pretty often so I'm going to check out the other tube and see how it stacks up against the stuff I use.
Full review will cover the unboxing, install as well as that moment that I discover that scrach with my reaction lol. Also high res images of the scratch along with precise mesurements of it. And why I have it at work I'll be going more into the glass using some of the equipment we have here.
If the dome you got is flawless that's great. I'm happy for you. However that's not my experience with this product. my review is a sample size of 1. There are way they could of protected the glass like other manufacturer's do but they cut that corner and lowered product quality to keep cost down. After all the reviews I bought with confidence and received a damaged product. I have contacted Whitestone about this but I will say that Zagg offered to send out a elite free to replace the one I took off and said that I should not be punished for buying into the hype and the note 9 deserves a quality product to protect the best display on a smartphone. That says alot about Zagg by eliminating the shipping. We will see how Whitestone handles this. If they send out a replacement that is a representation of what others have prazed I would be more then happy. But I think they are going to try and play the pay to ship that back, then pay for shipping on another product so we can ring even more money out of you. But sorry guys. You burned me one time. You won't burn me again.
Again. I haven't seen anyone else with this issue. As far as I know this is a single case. There may be more who knows but I'll be 100% honest in this. The picture was taken under magnification to show it's not just a scratch in the oleophobic coating. From a picture you can't feel the scratch catch your finger nail when you rub it. If Whitestone decides to take care of this issue I will update this post with how they handled it and there response. Until then for all those who are ocd about there displays. This is what a scratch looks like.
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Whitestone is in communication on how to make this right. I have discovered another issue. This is with the oleophobic coating. One spot has some heat damage. I sent them this picture to see how this could happen in there process.
Working in the optoelectronics industry for years. I look forward to offering them some input on how to keep things like these from hurting there brand to new potential customers. First product from them and as of right now the last. I pay for the premium product I demand a premium product. I will keep this update with there solution on this matter and what they think can cause the issues.
The scratch I believe was cased when after inspection when placed in the bag. The bag is not optics quality and being so is may contain debris. Example out air cans we use are not normal dust cans. They are filtered to sub micron purity. There's quality and then optical quality. When placed in the bag the scratch was formed. Protective film would ensure that never happens or optical quality bags. Corner was cut and the product suffered. That's a fact. As for the oleophobic coating. I would need more info on there production line. I have a theory of what could cause that. I have seen similar issues with microscope optical coatings on production equipment.
So far they have replied quickly and seem eager to make things right and assure me that the product meets there quality standards.
I think when finished I will have the most in depth review of this. Since I had to take it to work for pictures I was able to test the included adhesive, cure light optical power and make exact cure times required for a full proper cure. Mesure the thickness of the adhesive layer under the glass and other stuff. It's probably going to be about a 30-45min video I will post on YouTube. If interested I am willing to do the same for other protectors if there is interest. Since most reviews are just stick it on and it fits so it must be the best. We can dive into things a bit more and actually look at the product.
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Told to use the warranty form online. Pictures were sent to there hq in Korea. They made a coupon code that will wave the shipping. Excellent support.
User error.
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Honestly I don't care if you have a dome and it's the best ever. This is my experience with the dome. Sum it up. Low quality trash. Brand New sealed ordered from Whitestone out of the box it had a pretty deep scrach in it. And for how much junk Zagg is at least there product does not come out of the box scrached.
Check out the glass before you install and before you remove your current protector. You are not buying quality here. I had high expectations for this but after this I'll just go back to brands that preform simple steps in quality control.
Lots of people are pleased. I for one say a scratch out of the box of a new product at this price point is 100% un acceptable. And this is the only brand that I seen this in. In my experience this is the lowest quality glass out for the note 9. Yeah Zagg has some poor design choices like edge adhesive and on the elite the black borders. But the glass is flawless and clear. Unlike this Whitestone.
If you can't spot a scratch that deep I now question the quality of the optical adhesive they use. I work in the optoelectronics industry. I use optical adhesive pretty often so I'm going to check out the other tube and see how it stacks up against the stuff I use.
Full review will cover the unboxing, install as well as that moment that I discover that scrach with my reaction lol. Also high res images of the scratch along with precise mesurements of it. And why I have it at work I'll be going more into the glass using some of the equipment we have here.
If the dome you got is flawless that's great. I'm happy for you. However that's not my experience with this product. my review is a sample size of 1. There are way they could of protected the glass like other manufacturer's do but they cut that corner and lowered product quality to keep cost down. After all the reviews I bought with confidence and received a damaged product. I have contacted Whitestone about this but I will say that Zagg offered to send out a elite free to replace the one I took off and said that I should not be punished for buying into the hype and the note 9 deserves a quality product to protect the best display on a smartphone. That says alot about Zagg by eliminating the shipping. We will see how Whitestone handles this. If they send out a replacement that is a representation of what others have prazed I would be more then happy. But I think they are going to try and play the pay to ship that back, then pay for shipping on another product so we can ring even more money out of you. But sorry guys. You burned me one time. You won't burn me again.
Again. I haven't seen anyone else with this issue. As far as I know this is a single case. There may be more who knows but I'll be 100% honest in this. The picture was taken under magnification to show it's not just a scratch in the oleophobic coating. From a picture you can't feel the scratch catch your finger nail when you rub it. If Whitestone decides to take care of this issue I will update this post with how they handled it and there response. Until then for all those who are ocd about there displays. This is what a scratch looks like.
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Mine was scratched pretty deeply as well out of the box. I just don't feel like going through the installation process again, so I guess I'll just keep it as long as I can without it driving me crazy.
I advise everyone to inspect the glass of the protector before installing.
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User error.
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User error because there was a scratch?? You sound like a troll.
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User error.
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I'm sorry to hear that. It's not hard to put on. Maybe next time you would take your time and you won't have user error.
Update they messaged me me back seeing how we can fix this. I told them what I think caused this on there end but I have another issue and asked them about there quality control. Needed info as if I tell my subs to buy something it's of quality. No excuses for this.
I'm not mad about the scratch. Gave me content and for the first time ever the dome is getting looked at. And if we cannot get crazy I can fire up the Scanning electron microscope and we can dive into it lol.
Just for reference. Was your scratch 1/4 inch under the bixby button and to the right 1/4 inch going vertically?
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I'm sorry to hear that. It's not hard to put on. Maybe next time you would take your time and you won't have user error.
Update they messaged me me back seeing how we can fix this. I told them what I think caused this on there end but I have another issue and asked them about there quality control. Needed info as if I tell my subs to buy something it's of quality. No excuses for this.
I'm not mad about the scratch. Gave me content and for the first time ever the dome is getting looked at. And if we cannot get crazy I can fire up the Scanning electron microscope and we can dive into it lol.
Just for reference. Was your scratch 1/4 inch under the bixby button and to the right 1/4 inch going vertically?
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Scan the note 9 screen with the electron microscope. Would like to see pics .
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Scan the note 9 screen with the electron microscope. Would like to see pics .
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People are using our Scanning electron right now but here are some high magnification images from out just microscope.
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People are using our Scanning electron right now but here are some high magnification images from out just microscope.
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That's amazing. Any chance in showing some glass defects?
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People are using our Scanning electron right now but here are some high magnification images from out just microscope.
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One more
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That's amazing. Any chance in showing some glass defects?
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What kind of defects do you wanna see?
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What kind of defects do you wanna see?
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Factory ones. Ones that the eye cannot see. Perhaps in the glass areas and also th frame . Especially the area where the glass meets the frame , the so called gap.
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Factory ones. Ones that the eye cannot see. Perhaps in the glass areas and also th frame . Especially the area where the glass meets the frame , the so called gap.
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Yeah I'll get see I day or two and I'll start a thread for it.
My experience from the Dome Glass... I ordered the 2 Pack from Amazon, I got the package a little bit wet from the LOCA glue. I successfully installed the glass on my N9, but it had a small scratch on it that I noticed after I turned on the UV light to dry the glue. After about one week little cracks appeared in the glue I contact Amazon and they replaced it (had to sent it back). Now I have the new one on my screen for 3 weeks and everything is good. I hope it will stay that way.
When it works it's the best screen protector I have ever had (and I had them all).
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My experience from the Dome Glass... I ordered the 2 Pack from Amazon, I got the package a little bit wet from the LOCA glue. I successfully installed the glass on my N9, but it had a small scratch on it that I noticed after I turned on the UV light to dry the glue. After about one week little cracks appeared in the glue I contact Amazon and they replaced it (had to sent it back). Now I have the new one on my screen for 3 weeks and everything is good. I hope it will stay that way.
When it works it's the best screen protector I have ever had (and I had them all).
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There support was fast. From what I seen I rate this a 3 on a scale to 5. The oleophobic coating is absolutely trash. But we'll see how it is on the replacement since I know there is a defect in this units coating. I'll give my final opinion on it when the replacement comes in and will compare the quality of the glass and coating to some other brands.
I made a video on my youtube channel about the NOTE 9 - ZAGG Curve Elite, long story short i either got a defective unit or the quality of this products is not good at all, take a look for yourself.
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This protector absolutely BLOWS. Mine was so full of bubbles and while trying to work them out the glass cracked just using the included squeegee.
I've installed tons of protectors over the years and this one is a complete fail.
Zagg charged me $9.99 for a replacement and I don't think I'm even going to try it.
Yeh I think it's well worth paying the extra and getting something like a whitestone dome
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This protector absolutely BLOWS. Mine was so full of bubbles and while trying to work them out the glass cracked just using the included squeegee.
I've installed tons of protectors over the years and this one is a complete fail.
Zagg charged me $9.99 for a replacement and I don't think I'm even going to try it.
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Yeh I think it's well worth paying the extra and getting something like a whitestone dome
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This ZAGG Elite is more than the Whitestone Dome at $49.99
Yea, I'm just not too crazy about spreading glue all over the face of my phone.
Got this one, and i very happy.
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Got this one, and i very happy.
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Which one? The curve elite or?
cereal86 said:
Got this one, and i very happy.
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If you going to get an "Edge Sticker" mind as well just get the G-Pel.
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If you going to get an "Edge Sticker" mind as well just get the G-Pel.
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In the end I got one of them whitestone copies on ebay with the glue, went on perfect and only cost me like £7
Every time i see someone put one of these on i cry.
Not defecting its from an improper install. You can not squeegee a zagg elite that hard because
-Adhesive is thick and super sticky. Air does not come out of it. Light heat helps but expect 15-20 min of working bubbles out by hand. Seriously. Light and smooth.
-Air bubbles with that thick of adhesive makes a high pressure point on the glass. Do this with any glass protector out there they all crack.
Install on this is horrible. I did one and outside of 20 min worth of getting out some bubbles it went on just fine. Second one if i had a bubble that was not coming out i used some really strong tape. Lifted the protector up with that then slowly let it down. That helped. Last one i used that with some light heat and it went on ok. Still a pain.
Now for the fun parts.
First one i had was defective. Protector had a bubble in the top right corner that would not come out. Measured the adhesive layer and it was 50um thicker in that corner. Defective unit and the store knew about that got a new one and it went on perfect.
Horrible design. One thing about Zagg is they have great products...But after its made they give it to someone there and they are in charger of gimping it. There job is to figure out how to make it slight worse. On the Elite they said well the normal one as the edge adhesive and that sucks so this has full so how can we made it suck just as much..I got it. Lets add some black borders that make the display just a hair smaller...And then we will make it so out of that black we get a little light leakage when its in a dark area. Seriously every Zagg product has one these where someone should of been fired. I mean whitestone did the same thing. They cut every corner they could and did not go out of there way to make the product worse like Zagg. They just used cheap stuff and try to tell people its the most amazing thing ever.
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This ZAGG Elite is more than the Whitestone Dome at $49.99
Yea, I'm just not too crazy about spreading glue all over the face of my phone.
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i was like that spreading glue all over my 1000 pound Note 9 but dam it's worth it, it’s only a small drop of glue inside the bottle. The screen clarity touch sensitivity is amazing it’s well worth the 19 bucks i paid for it..
just make sure you put tons of masking or sell tape on your Note 9 before proceeding and make sure you cure it with uv light, and please take your time.
it just turns into soft rubbery glue, witch can be picked away but don’t mess around with the edges of the glass screen protector. As that will allow for dust to get in! But once on, you will never go back it's like there’s no protector I used a generic brand as it’s the exact same as Whitestone dome but you’re paying for the brand name Whitestone that’s why they are charging you 50+ bucks.
The 19 bucks one is the exact same as Whitestone dome I believe it is the same company that supply to Whitestone dome! See ebay link https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/T-Max-Li...h=item21473e6d52:g:RccAAOSwZ~tbkQZx:rk:1:pf:0
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i was like that spreading glue all over my 1000 pound Note 9 but dam it's worth it, it’s only a small drop of glue inside the bottle. The screen clarity touch sensitivity is amazing it’s well worth the 19 bucks i paid for it..
just make sure you put tons of masking or sell tape on your Note 9 before proceeding and make sure you cure it with uv light, and please take your time.
it just turns into soft rubbery glue, witch can be picked away but don’t mess around with the edges of the glass screen protector. As that will allow for dust to get in! But once on, you will never go back it's like there’s no protector I used a generic brand as it’s the exact same as Whitestone dome but you’re paying for the brand name Whitestone that’s why they are charging you 50+ bucks.
The 19 bucks one is the exact same as Whitestone dome I believe it is the same company that supply to Whitestone dome! See ebay link https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/T-Max-Li...h=item21473e6d52:g:RccAAOSwZ~tbkQZx:rk:1:pf:0
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They use different glass. I know where whitestone sources there adhesive and even got a price for it lol. It's from batches that can be sold under the company's brand name because its defective. So they sell it heavily discounted to places that. I did a lot of testing with that stuff.
But you dont need to tape it. That stuff comes off very easy because it never fully cures. And even fully cured the phones display has an fluoropolymer coating on it "Kinda like Teflon" So that helps a ton for getting the stuff off. Also any on the phone can be easily removed even fully cured with some Methanol. The stuff we use can be removed with Methanol and that stuff is 1000X better then that junk in those kits. Just dont use something like Dynmax 431-T and expect it to come off that easy. It wont, But the stuff in those kits comes off very easy. I'll plug the ports and dip my phone in it and not thing anything of it. However i would not put a drop of 431-T on my display if i ever want it to come off. But using the cheap kits "Whitestone is a cheap kit that's a fact and i proven this" You will get some de lamination at some point if you do not baby your phone. Pressure on the edges can cause it and even rapid temperature changes. And that's because at the end of the day its all defective. The tube that comes with the kit if it was quality and not messed up is around $20 per 0.1oz or 2.95ml. Its expensive i deal with these types of adhesives every day. But they are buying stuff that had issues during the mixing process and being sold off as a lower quality for $0.50 per 4oz or 118.2ml. I found who is the manufacturer of it is and who the suppler who is distributing it out of China is.
Sad note. I had 7 tubes of some high end Optical Adhesive that expired on the 27th. Little over $21,000 in the trash. Still good still works but since it is past that expiration date we can no longer use it for production. That was a lot of Adhesive....But even more money. We also scrap gold epoxy lol. But that stuff goes out to have the gold reclaimed from it.
But that price is what the Whitestone should cost. I mean for the adhesive they use its still a bit much but they gotta make money so its fair. I would pick that kit over the dome any day.
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Every time i see someone put one of these on i cry.
Not defecting its from an improper install. You can not squeegee a zagg elite that hard because
-Adhesive is thick and super sticky. Air does not come out of it. Light heat helps but expect 15-20 min of working bubbles out by hand. Seriously. Light and smooth.
-Air bubbles with that thick of adhesive makes a high pressure point on the glass. Do this with any glass protector out there they all crack.
Install on this is horrible. I did one and outside of 20 min worth of getting out some bubbles it went on just fine. Second one if i had a bubble that was not coming out i used some really strong tape. Lifted the protector up with that then slowly let it down. That helped. Last one i used that with some light heat and it went on ok. Still a pain.
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So much of this.
It was a PITA to install but my install came out flawlessly. Though yeah, you have to take your time, be careful not to put too much pressure on the glass itself when installing. I found it best to relift the glass to expose the bubble in question, then smooth it out towards the edges with a felt wrapped squeegee...gently. Lifting the edges was the magic I used, much like installing a skin / car wrap, relieve the tension and squeegee smooth. Cracking glass on installation has always been a thing since the iPhone 4 days. If you put too much pressure in one location, pop. This is not a proper review video imo, user error does not constitute a bad review.
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They use different glass. I know where whitestone sources there adhesive and even got a price for it lol. It's from batches that can be sold under the company's brand name because its defective. So they sell it heavily discounted to places that. I did a lot of testing with that stuff.
But you dont need to tape it. That stuff comes off very easy because it never fully cures. And even fully cured the phones display has an fluoropolymer coating on it "Kinda like Teflon" So that helps a ton for getting the stuff off. Also any on the phone can be easily removed even fully cured with some Methanol. The stuff we use can be removed with Methanol and that stuff is 1000X better then that junk in those kits. Just dont use something like Dynmax 431-T and expect it to come off that easy. It wont, But the stuff in those kits comes off very easy. I'll plug the ports and dip my phone in it and not thing anything of it. However i would not put a drop of 431-T on my display if i ever want it to come off. But using the cheap kits "Whitestone is a cheap kit that's a fact and i proven this" You will get some de lamination at some point if you do not baby your phone. Pressure on the edges can cause it and even rapid temperature changes. And that's because at the end of the day its all defective. The tube that comes with the kit if it was quality and not messed up is around $20 per 0.1oz or 2.95ml. Its expensive i deal with these types of adhesives every day. But they are buying stuff that had issues during the mixing process and being sold off as a lower quality for $0.50 per 4oz or 118.2ml. I found who is the manufacturer of it is and who the suppler who is distributing it out of China is.
Sad note. I had 7 tubes of some high end Optical Adhesive that expired on the 27th. Little over $21,000 in the trash. Still good still works but since it is past that expiration date we can no longer use it for production. That was a lot of Adhesive....But even more money. We also scrap gold epoxy lol. But that stuff goes out to have the gold reclaimed from it.
But that price is what the Whitestone should cost. I mean for the adhesive they use its still a bit much but they gotta make money so its fair. I would pick that kit over the dome any day.
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Do you have a link where i can purchase the high end Optical Adhesive ? That you would use on your smartphone ? And thanks for the in-depth info respect!
This product is awful. I got this put on at Best Buy 10 days ago and it is already cracked.
I have no idea what caused the break. No drop, no bang, no bump.
Zagg Lifetime warranty = $10 everytime you use it = basura
Tomorrow, I will drive 48 miles to San Jose Zagg and see if they will put on the Zagg film protector instead. Wish me luck.
johninsf said:
This product is awful. I got this put on at Best Buy 10 days ago and it is already cracked.
I have no idea what caused the break. No drop, no bang, no bump.
Zagg Lifetime warranty = $10 everytime you use it = basura
Tomorrow, I will drive 48 miles to San Jose Zagg and see if they will put on the Zagg film protector instead. Wish me luck.
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Was the Best Buy install perfect with no bubbles or any problems? Maybe Zagg can get the Elite on perfect?
Slightly off topic. Would you know if cleaning the screen with alcohol wipes ( isopropyl) destroys the oleophobic coating or not ? I'm assuming it may after a given amount of times.
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They use different glass. I know where whitestone sources there adhesive and even got a price for it lol. It's from batches that can be sold under the company's brand name because its defective. So they sell it heavily discounted to places that. I did a lot of testing with that stuff.
But you dont need to tape it. That stuff comes off very easy because it never fully cures. And even fully cured the phones display has an fluoropolymer coating on it "Kinda like Teflon" So that helps a ton for getting the stuff off. Also any on the phone can be easily removed even fully cured with some Methanol. The stuff we use can be removed with Methanol and that stuff is 1000X better then that junk in those kits. Just dont use something like Dynmax 431-T and expect it to come off that easy. It wont, But the stuff in those kits comes off very easy. I'll plug the ports and dip my phone in it and not thing anything of it. However i would not put a drop of 431-T on my display if i ever want it to come off. But using the cheap kits "Whitestone is a cheap kit that's a fact and i proven this" You will get some de lamination at some point if you do not baby your phone. Pressure on the edges can cause it and even rapid temperature changes. And that's because at the end of the day its all defective. The tube that comes with the kit if it was quality and not messed up is around $20 per 0.1oz or 2.95ml. Its expensive i deal with these types of adhesives every day. But they are buying stuff that had issues during the mixing process and being sold off as a lower quality for $0.50 per 4oz or 118.2ml. I found who is the manufacturer of it is and who the suppler who is distributing it out of China is.
Sad note. I had 7 tubes of some high end Optical Adhesive that expired on the 27th. Little over $21,000 in the trash. Still good still works but since it is past that expiration date we can no longer use it for production. That was a lot of Adhesive....But even more money. We also scrap gold epoxy lol. But that stuff goes out to have the gold reclaimed from it.
But that price is what the Whitestone should cost. I mean for the adhesive they use its still a bit much but they gotta make money so its fair. I would pick that kit over the dome any day.
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I have this one.
https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/bl10NpiD
It can where it down over time but no more then useing your phone. I refresh mine every other month with one of the $12 kits from Walmart. Each vial I get 2 uses out of. I just reseal the plastic vial after. So $12 gives you 4 uses.
felloffthetruck said:
Was the Best Buy install perfect with no bubbles or any problems? Maybe Zagg can get the Elite on perfect?
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Yes. Best buy did a great job. No bubbles at all. The guy had to put it on twice. The first had dust. The next, he spent 15 min. removing dust with the tape.
Get the RhinoShield 9H Tempered Glass Screen Protector. For me its really the perfect protector FINALLY. Just take your time with the install and watch the video.