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Do we have any options for screen protectors on this tablet? I'd prefer to use the tablet "naked" with only a film over the screen to help deter scratches. (I really don't care if the back gets scratched..)
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Gary
garyd9 said:
Do we have any options for screen protectors on this tablet? I'd prefer to use the tablet "naked" with only a film over the screen to help deter scratches. (I really don't care if the back gets scratched..)
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Gary
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SKinomi makes one for the GT7+ and the quality is good but I'm warning you of their customer service. They have the worst customer service. You better hope you won't have to deal with them. They got 3 strikes from me just on one order.
1st: they forgot to process the order, I had to send them a followup email
2nd they again, forgot to send the item after 10 days from processing. I had to send them another followup email.
3rd: the item arrived, they forgot to include a squeegee! No big deal if this is just the case but they already f#$%ed me 2x.
Plus they only respond if you answer them basic questions but if they had to deal with these issues, they keep silent and doesn't even apologize for their mistake. This is just my experience though.. I hope this doesn't happen to you.
UPDATE: Just got a word from their manager. They are in the process of looking for a company that will provide a squeegee for them (no biggie). And he apologized for everything that had happened.. That's all I needed. .. and a full refund. All is well!
Something I stumbled upon a while back. I've not bought it as I hear "Santa" is bringing it to me.
Looks pretty good from here.
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SKinomi makes one for the GT7+ and the quality is good
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Is it a glossy style or a more matte style? Would you say fingerprints are more or less of a problem with this screen protector? Would you describe the film as stiff or more "stretchy"? Does the protector create an "orange peel" effect?
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Gary
garyd9 said:
Is it a glossy style or a more matte style? Would you say fingerprints are more or less of a problem with this screen protector? Would you describe the film as stiff or more "stretchy"? Does the protector create an "orange peel" effect?
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Gary
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The Skinomis I've used in the past on other devices (wet apply) are iffy. Some were rather "rubbery" (DroidX) and kind of shiny (TF101). The larger the more pliable. I replaced both. Not a real fan of "wet-apply" myself. Others swear by them. Both attracted fingerprints and other goobers but wiped off easily.
garyd9 said:
Is it a glossy style or a more matte style? Would you say fingerprints are more or less of a problem with this screen protector? Would you describe the film as stiff or more "stretchy"? Does the protector create an "orange peel" effect?
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Gary
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This is the clear style not matte. Im curious on how a matte protector wouldfeel or look like but this clear skin is better in reducing fingrprnts than having nothing. My hands sweat a lot and this really helps. The feel is similar to Bodyguardz if you had experienced it. Total opposite ofnthe zagg protector that ive used on a gt10.1. My fingers has a friction squeaking feel on a zagg but this one is smooth.
This film is "stretchy".. wet apply..have like 2 dozen bubbles on it right now because i had to attend to my crying 2 yr old while applying this thing. By the time i came back, the it was too late to redo. But im confident these bubbles will all go away in a couple of days. Will update when the time comes. Some of them are already gone after 24 hours.
Anyway, if youre a fan of bodyguardz then this would be perfect as well. "Skinomi25" coupon cvode on their website saves 25%
just to let every one know i ordered 2 kits from skinoni on Nov. 17 and the items did not ship till Nov. 30 and i have not received anything from them yet (Dec. 9). not very impressive shipping or customer service.
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just to let every one know i ordered 2 kits from skinoni on Nov. 17 and the items did not ship till Nov. 30 and i have not received anything from them yet (Dec. 9). not very impressive shipping or customer service.
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And i thought it was just me who had a horrible experience. Its a shame that skinomi builds high quality products but their customer svc is very incompetent and they have inefficient system.
garyd9 said:
Is it a glossy style or a more matte style? Would you say fingerprints are more or less of a problem with this screen protector? Would you describe the film as stiff or more "stretchy"? Does the protector create an "orange peel" effect?
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Gary
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I think it's more matte style, but I may be comparing it to phone protectors which I've used outside. No fingerprints on mine - I'm hella dark and ashy, and I have to use hand lotion all the time so chicks dig me. Fingerprints are a huge concern for me, so I am pleased with that aspect of the skin.
I don't notice any orange effect. I'm not sure if it's stretchy, but if you are talking about what I think you're talking about, then it is more stretchy than stiff(I'm guessing you mean kind of like camera film when describing it as stiff. I've had cheap protectors like that.)
Skip the atFolix stuff, I just got it and applied it. Frankly I'm happy they shipped two, as the product was god awful to apply and the first one I applied had a a couple scratches going down it.... so effectively it was burned...
Here's the Amazon feedback I just left and I'll elaborate more
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Product not cut to size, with 1-3 mm from the edges of the tablet, gives it a cheap screen feel. The screen is only a single back applicator, meaning you only pull one side to apply. As a lot of other other screens use two backings, one to protect the adhesive and the other to protect the screen itself, you can expect some scratching on the screen itself due to the fact that the screens are shipped side by side and therefore rub and scratch during transit. Micro-scratches are very evident. Not happy with the quality and the somewhat self inflicted damage of the screens.
Finally shipper does not have tracking numbers available.
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As for the cutting of the plastic, I've personally gotten better cut screens for my phones for less, then the cut of this plastic...
I wouldn't recommend this and given in couple months I'll most likely swap this screen out...
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Skip the atFolix stuff, I just got it and applied it. Frankly I'm happy they shipped two, as the product was god awful to apply and the first one I applied had a a couple scratches going down it.... so effectively it was burned...
Here's the Amazon feedback I just left and I'll elaborate more
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Product not cut to size, with 1-3 mm from the edges of the tablet, gives it a cheap screen feel. The screen is only a single back applicator, meaning you only pull one side to apply. As a lot of other other screens use two backings, one to protect the adhesive and the other to protect the screen itself, you can expect some scratching on the screen itself due to the fact that the screens are shipped side by side and therefore rub and scratch during transit. Micro-scratches are very evident. Not happy with the quality and the somewhat self inflicted damage of the screens.
Finally shipper does not have tracking numbers available.
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As for the cutting of the plastic, I've personally gotten better cut screens for my phones for less, then the cut of this plastic...
I wouldn't recommend this and given in couple months I'll most likely swap this screen out...
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Great, just bought this one a few days ago. Bought one of the HandHeldItems cases too that was labeled as being for the 7+ but was for the original. Having zero luck with accessories for this tablet.......
Ya.... but worse comes to worse, atleast we took one for the team no?
That said I left feedback on the Amazon page, and we'll see if the seller responds no?
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Ya.... but worse comes to worse, atleast we took one for the team no?
That said I left feedback on the Amazon page, and we'll see if the seller responds no?
I'm getting the impression there are no good choices for this device. Perhaps I'll just get one of the generic "you cut it" protectors and cut it down to size myself.
Gary
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I'm getting the impression there are no good choices for this device. Perhaps I'll just get one of the generic "you cut it" protectors and cut it down to size myself.
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Zagg has one available at best buy for the tab+ $24.
I miss when i got the original galaxy tab and there were pretty much a wide availability of aftermarket accessories for it. Not so much w/ the Plus. I'm still looking for a clear (non matte/anti-glare) and non-gummy screen protector.
I just got the skinomi finally last night and pulled it off after a minute of application. Just like the Zagg/invisibleshield product it has this grippy/gummy texture i don't like on my touchscreens. That's fine on the body if i don't want to use a case, but really not my preference on the screen.
What i want is a smooth, close to frictionless as possible on the touchscreen that affects the clarity as little as possible. In the past I like the Boxwave Crystals but they don't have any for our device, so I placed a request.
Anyone ever deal with this company? They list a screen protector specifically for our devices.
Looks promising. But then the Titanic looked promising..........
I don't know if its been mentioned, but Skinomi has products for the +.
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I don't know if its been mentioned, but Skinomi has products for the +.
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they have them on there website and i ordered some on nov. 17 and have still not received them. they will not answer my emails in regards to the delay. so i am thinking they have not even made any yet.
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they have them on there website and i ordered some on nov. 17 and have still not received them. they will not answer my emails in regards to the delay. so i am thinking they have not even made any yet.
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Oh believe me they have it. Their customer service is just plain incompetent and lazy. I got it after a couple of followups.. Oh and when USPS displays on their tracking website "Electronic Shipping Info Received" which indicates Skinomi already printed a shipping label for your item, don't settle and don't wait because for sure they will forget to send it in! Bang their heads until the tracking info starts moving. Then demand for a manager and get a refund for the trouble they've caused you. You then get the item for free. That serves them right because that item is their payment for the aggravation they've cause you. Just send them an email, be irate because I know you already are.
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Oh believe me they have it. Their customer service is just plain incompetent and lazy. I got it after a couple of followups.. Oh and when USPS displays on their tracking website "Electronic Shipping Info Received" which indicates Skinomi already printed a shipping label for your item, don't settle and don't wait because for sure they will forget to send it in! Bang their heads until the tracking info starts moving. Then demand for a manager and get a refund for the trouble they've caused you. You then get the item for free. That serves them right because that item is their payment for the aggravation they've cause you. Just send them an email, be irate because I know you already are.
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i sent numerous emails. i finally received the stuff from them it only took 34 days. i asked how to get a refund and was told they only offer a refund up till 30 days from order date. after many more emails they finally agreed that if i ship the stuff back they will refund my money. i will be doing my best to warn people of the terrible customer service at this site. not to mention the product comes all rolled up in a stupid tube in a huge package. wouldn't flat shipping the body kit make more sense than rolling it up tight?
I found this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/6-Clear-Scr...oth-for-LG-Nexus-4-E960-Google-/350672535192?
it's only $1.95 for 6 dry screen protectors with free expedited shipping in the US. I know it's not the best out there but I personally hate the draggy feeling of wet applicators.
I thought I should share this
Let us know how the quality is, hopefully it isn't a Crazy finger print magnet
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Let us know how the quality is, hopefully it isn't a Crazy finger print magnet
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I just placed the order 1/2hr ago It said estimated delivery is between 12/28 and 1/3. I will definitely keep you guys updated as soon as I have it.
Be careful, before I went with Spigen I purchased cheap protectors and they had the grainy effect and felt odd.
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Be careful, before I went with Spigen I purchased cheap protectors and they had the grainy effect and felt odd.
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I had always used dry ones before on my previous phones. They were all fine and each lasted about a month before scratches started to show and I just replace it with another one
I currently have Skinomi. I liked it but it's already showing signs of stretches and unhealed marks/dents.
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I had always used dry ones before on my previous phones. They were all fine and each lasted about a month before scratches started to show and I just replace it with another one
I currently have Skinomi. I liked it but it's already showing signs of stretches and unhealed marks/dents.
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I haven't tried a wet install due to fear of getting water in the earpiece and other ports. And lol are marks suppose to heal?
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I found this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/6-Clear-Scr...oth-for-LG-Nexus-4-E960-Google-/350672535192?
it's only $1.95 for 6 dry screen protectors with free expedited shipping in the US. I know it's not the best out there but I personally hate the draggy feeling of wet applicators.
I thought I should share this
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No cutout for proximity sensor could be a problem. Maybe that's why they're so cheap. Then again at $2 for 6, I have a feeling even the cheapest wet protector will feel better than those
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I haven't tried a wet install due to fear of getting water in the earpiece and other ports. And lol are marks suppose to heal?
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I've always used wet apply protectors (6 different phones, and 3 tablets). No problems so far. I think you'd end up with more water in your device while talking on the phone in the rain than with applying wet protectors. Then again I also use distilled water which has lower conductivity than tap.
Here's my experience using a high quality (SGP) screen protector vs cheap ebay ones :
Im currently using SGP dual (front & back) ultraclear for about a month and although its a bit of a fingerprint magnet, so far there are no visible scratches on the protectors. Seems like it holds up pretty well against all the rubbings in my jacket pocket this past month. SGP claims of its material hardness was proven since there are no scratches at all so far :good:. And I thought all screen protectors are made equal...until I was proven wrong a couple of weeks ago..
I helped a housemate bought and install cheap dry application screen protectors on ebay for his samsung exhibit II phone. They are cheap (6 for $1.95), but it took 3 trials for me to finally be satisfied with the result as the first 2 trials resulted in scratches on the protectors when I was squeegee-ing the bubbles. I did not use a squeegee on the 3rd trial and just pushed the bubbles out using my fingers. as a result some of the bubbles are trapped (but went away after a couple of days). However, upon closer look, some of the protector edges are not flat, resulting on lifting on the edges. The thing just looks plain ugly.
So, my advise is stay away form the cheap protectors...you may get lucky with a hi quality protectors but odds are youre going end up with a lo quality ones (hence the low price). They are also prone to scratches. Yeah with the cheap ones, you can change it monthly but since the process of applying a protector takes about 1-2 hour for me, I prefer to install it once and be happy about it for the rest of the cellphone's life...
PS : BTW, the one you posted doesnt have a proximity sensor cutout...
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Here's my experience using a high quality (SGP) screen protector vs cheap ebay ones :
Im currently using SGP dual (front & back) ultraclear for about a month and although its a bit of a fingerprint magnet, so far there are no visible scratches on the protectors. Seems like it holds up pretty well against all the rubbings in my jacket pocket this past month. SGP claims of its material hardness was proven since there are no scratches at all so far :good:. And I thought all screen protectors are made equal...until I was proven wrong a couple of weeks ago..
I helped a housemate bought and install cheap dry application screen protectors on ebay for his samsung exhibit II phone. They are cheap (6 for $1.95), but it took 3 trials for me to finally be satisfied with the result as the first 2 trials resulted in scratches on the protectors when I was squeegee-ing the bubbles. I did not use a squeegee on the 3rd trial and just pushed the bubbles out using my fingers. as a result some of the bubbles are trapped (but went away after a couple of days). However, upon closer look, some of the protector edges are not flat, resulting on lifting on the edges. The thing just looks plain ugly.
So, my advise is try to stay away form the cheap protectors on ebay...you may get lucky with a high quality protectors but odds are youre going end up with a low quality ones (hence the low price). Also, they are prone to scratches...since the process of applying a protector takes about 1-2 hour for me, I prefer to install it once and be happy about it for the rest of the life of my cellphone.
PS : BTW, the one you posted doesnt have a proximity sensor cutout...
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thanks for the heads up. I guess I'll just try and see. Hopefully I get a good quality one. I don't expect much. Beside its only $1.95.
I give the homeless guy nearby my house $1 every other days anyways
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thanks for the heads up. I guess I'll just try and see. Hopefully I get a good quality one. I don't expect much. Beside its only $1.95.
I give the homeless guy nearby my house $1 every other days anyways
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This made me happy. Good for you man.
++1
I have gone through quite a bit of smartsphone.. each of them I been applying different type of screen protector to try them out.
It really depends on how *cheap* they are...
I purchase 4 for $1.50 on ebay.. they feel as premium as those $14 for 2 high quality one (sgp)
but they do get scratches much more easily than high quality one.
And even if you manage to not get scratches on them, they tend to get worn out in the middle due the swiping ..
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I have gone through quite a bit of smartsphone.. each of them I been applying different type of screen protector to try them out.
It really depends on how *cheap* they are...
I purchase 4 for $1.50 on ebay.. they feel as premium as those $14 for 2 high quality one (sgp)
but they do get scratches much more easily than high quality one.
And even if you manage to not get scratches on them, they tend to get worn out in the middle due the swiping ..
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This is very true.
i boughtbthis exact screen protector and impossible to out on without scartching it all up, absolutely useless, ive put on many before with no problems
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So I received the screen protectors today. I did not apply it as I still have my Skinomi on.
Attached is how it looks like laying on top of my phone.
There IS a cutout for the sensor as you can see. However the camera is covered.
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So I received the screen protectors today. I did not apply it as I still have my Skinomi on.
Attached is how it looks like laying on top of my phone.
There IS a cutout for the sensor as you can see. However the camera is covered.
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Are you sure you didn't put it on backwards? Weirdly enough that's what I was about to comment on, it does seem to mess with the proximity sensor, as the screen will remain black during calls.
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Are you sure you didn't put it on backwards? Weirdly enough that's what I was about to comment on, it does seem to mess with the proximity sensor, as the screen will remain black during calls.
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Just cut out the corner with scissors before applying
Already done, just thought people should know though.
Omg you're right. I put it on backward. So embarrassing. Lol that cut out is for the camera.
Oh well, I'll just cut a hole for the sensors when I need to.
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Omg you're right. I put it on backward. So embarrassing. Lol that cut out is for the camera.
Oh well, I'll just cut a hole for the sensors when I need to.
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lol, I was actually wondering how you got it to stick that way, if I could have I would've kept it that way. It wouldn't bother the camera, at least not as much as it bothers the sensors.
yeah i was looking at it and my first thought was "but... the pull tab says "back" on it..."
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1081571316/rhino-shield-the-impact-resistant-screen-protector
I have said before that people who think the Nexus 4 is fragile are just irresponsible and don't know how to mind their phones...
... then I dropped the phone in my backyard. On grass. While in a TPU S-case. The screen cracked and the digitizer was unresponsive.
$120, a toolkit, and a YouTube video later; I've got a repaired phone. When I leave my house, my phone always rests in a case, whether S-case, Poetic Palette, or Poetic Slimbook. And these cases always add a noticeable amount of bulk.
I'd love to be able to use the phone caseless, but I don't want to shell out another $120 and spend another evening replacing the screen.
So... I'd be very grateful if someone would please explain to me why I shouldn't buy this. Tell me why it doesn't provide drop protection. Or that the phone would still break from a 5 foot fall into concrete. Tell me that the coverage means nothing and that edge protection is necessary if the event of a drop.
Or... you can tell me that this screen protector provides as much protection as the Poetic Palette/Rearth Ringke
I'm only asking for real advice, because I really want to go caseless, and if the Rhino Shield provides adequate drop protection, I will. 2x0.29 mm isn't too thick (0.58 mm for our slow friends) and is certainly thinner than any case possible.
P.S. If the Kickstarter is cancelled, everyone gets their money back (no scam).
I have a question.
when your phone dropped (with the S TPU) you didn't have any screen protector on?
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I have a question.
when your phone dropped (with the S TPU) you didn't have any screen protector on?
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I did not have a screen protector on.
More and extraneous detail: I had just gotten the phone replaced, as my first N4 had a faulty radio that consistently dropped cellular data. With my replacement, I left the packing film on the back, but removed the front film.
When I dropped the phone, it landed on it's back. Somehow, only the front cracked. The back remains pristine, though I have since removed that packing film.
there's your answer. put the film back on. you're welcome.
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there's your answer. put the film back on. you're welcome.
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I'm not sure if you're being facetious or you truly don't understand the point of my thread...
This Kickstarter is for a very durable screen protector that appears resilient against single point impact. However, I don't know how it fares against an actual drop. I'm particularly interested in how it would do against concrete.
I'd be very interested in using my phone without a case, and this specific screen protector boasts significantly more protection than a standard screen protector. Watch the video. Spoiler: a 255g ball bearing is dropped from 48cm onto a Gorilla Glass 2 panel with Rhino Shield and escapes intact. The same bearing is then dropped from a mere 9cm onto the same glass panel which is now using a "standard" screen protector. This time, the screen cracks all over.
However, someone who has more experience in industrial design or phone durability may be able to dispel the Rhino Shield claims. Maybe their test was not representative of an actual drop. Maybe edge protection is far more important.
One thing is certain about your advice... I'm not going to heed it!
Edit: this video is a more direct comparison, using a real phone this time. It seems very impressive, but I'm still concerned about hire important edge protection is in the case of a real world drop. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jk70XEYk53Y
Edit 2: this video actually had drop results and they seem promising. I'm going to bite the bullet and get one. I'll try to remember to update this thread in the future if my phone breaks. If I don't, assume it hasn't! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=humEMjHElG0
so basically it's a product similar to wrapsol and ~5 $ cheaper
I was joking actually but thanks for the info
AW: Ok, talk me out of buying this: Rhino Shield.
That would be seriously nice if the Kids were playing on my Device!
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so basically it's a product similar to wrapsol and ~5 $ cheaper
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Ahh, now there's a helpful post. I looked up Wrapsol protectors and found this review on Amazon:
the product was delivered very quick almost 5 days faster than expected. I bought this product on amazon since they stopped selling them in my local walmart. Couldn't be happier the full screen protector is the way to go since you get full protection with minimal size increase. I have dropped my phone probably over 150 times over the past year with this wrapsol full screen protector on it and it has yet to crack any of those times (including tile, terrazzo, and concrete).
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I've looked at the other reviews, for all kinds of iPhones, and found that Wrapsol protectors stretch over time. I really hope this doesn't happen to Rhino Shield, but I'll just make them give me a new one if that happens. I mean, it would be pretty messed up if you got a screen protector, and after a year it misaligned to the point of function loss.
I saw a post today (on another forum) about someone dropping a nexus 4 with wrapsol on it- he got out of a car and forgot the phone was on his lap, and he says the screen shattered at 3 different places.
in my opinion, these types of screen protectors may help as long as the phone doesn't fall on one of its corners.
Amazer already has one of these
http://www.amzer.com/Amzer-ShatterProof-Screen-Protector-Front-Coverage-P95221.htm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hsxl1bRTldo
their brick test is incredible...
however, the rhino is about half the price
I'm not sure how similar the rhino shield is compared to invisible shield but I've been using that on all my phones for a long time and can tell you that even on corner drops I have not had a single cracked screen. I got the full body shield installed by the guy at the mall selling it for $35. I think you can buy it without someone installing it for less.
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their brick test is incredible...
however, the rhino is about half the price
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Again, I'm quite skeptical about the rigor of these companies' testing methods. I just don't feel like the hammer and bricks tests represent real life hazards to phones. They should perform a drop test onto a hard surface, and repeat dropping until the glass shatters or they show that the screen protector really is shatterproof. I'd love to see a worst case scenario from a set of 100 trials.
From what I see if specs, Rhino is at least 50% thicker than similar shatterproof film. I just wish Rhino would release chemical info of the polymer that used
I already gave Rhino Shield my USD$24, though.
I think I am in for one
I am waiting at home for the Fed Ex truck to arrive with my repaired Nexus 4. Dropped it from 1.5 feet onto the tile in my bathroom and the front screen shattered and the digitizer stopped working. I would love to see this in a drop test but those videos look impressive. My fault for not having a case on it yet but it is ridiculous how fragile this phone is. I don't understand how Google and LG Engineering would allow this out the door like this. I could easily see some sort of class action lawsuit coming over the build robustness and I will be sure to sign up if/when it happens to get some of that $140 repair bill back. I am going to contribute to this kickstarter. Looks like they are getting close to their goal.
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I am waiting at home for the Fed Ex truck to arrive with my repaired Nexus 4. Dropped it from 1.5 feet onto the tile in my bathroom and the front screen shattered and the digitizer stopped working. I would love to see this in a drop test but those videos look impressive. My fault for not having a case on it yet but it is ridiculous how fragile this phone is. I don't understand how Google and LG Engineering would allow this out the door like this. I could easily see some sort of class action lawsuit coming over the build robustness and I will be sure to sign up if/when it happens to get some of that $140 repair bill back. I am going to contribute to this kickstarter. Looks like they are getting close to their goal.
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Everyone knows they bought a glass frint/back phone, I doubt there's going to be a class action lawsuit... Lol
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Where/how do you order one?
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Where/how do you order one?
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You can either back them on Kickstarter and choose the Nexus 4 front and back protector as a 'reward' (costs £16 to get that reward).
Alternatively you can wait for it to come into production and buy it just like any other product.
It sounds good. I might back it.
How do you all think this compares to the Fantom 4 tempered glass screen protectors? I was thinking of getting one of those.
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I'm not sure if you're being facetious or you truly don't understand the point of my thread...
This Kickstarter is for a very durable screen protector that appears resilient against single point impact. However, I don't know how it fares against an actual drop. I'm particularly interested in how it would do against concrete.
I'd be very interested in using my phone without a case, and this specific screen protector boasts significantly more protection than a standard screen protector. Watch the video. Spoiler: a 255g ball bearing is dropped from 48cm onto a Gorilla Glass 2 panel with Rhino Shield and escapes intact. The same bearing is then dropped from a mere 9cm onto the same glass panel which is now using a "standard" screen protector. This time, the screen cracks all over.
However, someone who has more experience in industrial design or phone durability may be able to dispel the Rhino Shield claims. Maybe their test was not representative of an actual drop. Maybe edge protection is far more important.
One thing is certain about your advice... I'm not going to heed it!
Edit: this video is a more direct comparison, using a real phone this time. It seems very impressive, but I'm still concerned about hire important edge protection is in the case of a real world drop. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jk70XEYk53Y
Edit 2: this video actually had drop results and they seem promising. I'm going to bite the bullet and get one. I'll try to remember to update this thread in the future if my phone breaks. If I don't, assume it hasn't! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=humEMjHElG0
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i posted in the rhino thread about the edge not being protected so there's not a lot of real drop protection. Im not and expert on phone design but if you take a look at your phones or videos of drop test, esp. the ones in slow mo, you can see that on a flat surface the phone will impact the edges most of the time. There's lots of pics of phones with shattered screens and the ones from drops usually are cracked from an edge or corner. the Nexus 4 is going to be worst than other phones because the screen curves around the bezel exposing more glass in a vulnerable area that is not covered by the screen protector. If you want drop protection get a case with lip around the screen. Get a screen protector if you dont want scratches.
Android001 said:
You can either back them on Kickstarter and choose the Nexus 4 front and back protector as a 'reward' (costs £16 to get that reward).
Alternatively you can wait for it to come into production and buy it just like any other product.
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backing a kickstarter will not guarantee you get anything, most fail even the ones with enough backing and there's no refunds with kickstarter. You are also getting an untested product until someone can get it and verify the manufacture's claims.
I made a video on my youtube channel about the NOTE 9 - ZAGG Curve Elite, long story short i either got a defective unit or the quality of this products is not good at all, take a look for yourself.
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This protector absolutely BLOWS. Mine was so full of bubbles and while trying to work them out the glass cracked just using the included squeegee.
I've installed tons of protectors over the years and this one is a complete fail.
Zagg charged me $9.99 for a replacement and I don't think I'm even going to try it.
Yeh I think it's well worth paying the extra and getting something like a whitestone dome
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This protector absolutely BLOWS. Mine was so full of bubbles and while trying to work them out the glass cracked just using the included squeegee.
I've installed tons of protectors over the years and this one is a complete fail.
Zagg charged me $9.99 for a replacement and I don't think I'm even going to try it.
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Yeh I think it's well worth paying the extra and getting something like a whitestone dome
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This ZAGG Elite is more than the Whitestone Dome at $49.99
Yea, I'm just not too crazy about spreading glue all over the face of my phone.
Got this one, and i very happy.
cereal86 said:
Got this one, and i very happy.
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Which one? The curve elite or?
cereal86 said:
Got this one, and i very happy.
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If you going to get an "Edge Sticker" mind as well just get the G-Pel.
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If you going to get an "Edge Sticker" mind as well just get the G-Pel.
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In the end I got one of them whitestone copies on ebay with the glue, went on perfect and only cost me like £7
Every time i see someone put one of these on i cry.
Not defecting its from an improper install. You can not squeegee a zagg elite that hard because
-Adhesive is thick and super sticky. Air does not come out of it. Light heat helps but expect 15-20 min of working bubbles out by hand. Seriously. Light and smooth.
-Air bubbles with that thick of adhesive makes a high pressure point on the glass. Do this with any glass protector out there they all crack.
Install on this is horrible. I did one and outside of 20 min worth of getting out some bubbles it went on just fine. Second one if i had a bubble that was not coming out i used some really strong tape. Lifted the protector up with that then slowly let it down. That helped. Last one i used that with some light heat and it went on ok. Still a pain.
Now for the fun parts.
First one i had was defective. Protector had a bubble in the top right corner that would not come out. Measured the adhesive layer and it was 50um thicker in that corner. Defective unit and the store knew about that got a new one and it went on perfect.
Horrible design. One thing about Zagg is they have great products...But after its made they give it to someone there and they are in charger of gimping it. There job is to figure out how to make it slight worse. On the Elite they said well the normal one as the edge adhesive and that sucks so this has full so how can we made it suck just as much..I got it. Lets add some black borders that make the display just a hair smaller...And then we will make it so out of that black we get a little light leakage when its in a dark area. Seriously every Zagg product has one these where someone should of been fired. I mean whitestone did the same thing. They cut every corner they could and did not go out of there way to make the product worse like Zagg. They just used cheap stuff and try to tell people its the most amazing thing ever.
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This ZAGG Elite is more than the Whitestone Dome at $49.99
Yea, I'm just not too crazy about spreading glue all over the face of my phone.
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i was like that spreading glue all over my 1000 pound Note 9 but dam it's worth it, it’s only a small drop of glue inside the bottle. The screen clarity touch sensitivity is amazing it’s well worth the 19 bucks i paid for it..
just make sure you put tons of masking or sell tape on your Note 9 before proceeding and make sure you cure it with uv light, and please take your time.
it just turns into soft rubbery glue, witch can be picked away but don’t mess around with the edges of the glass screen protector. As that will allow for dust to get in! But once on, you will never go back it's like there’s no protector I used a generic brand as it’s the exact same as Whitestone dome but you’re paying for the brand name Whitestone that’s why they are charging you 50+ bucks.
The 19 bucks one is the exact same as Whitestone dome I believe it is the same company that supply to Whitestone dome! See ebay link https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/T-Max-Li...h=item21473e6d52:g:RccAAOSwZ~tbkQZx:rk:1:pf:0
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i was like that spreading glue all over my 1000 pound Note 9 but dam it's worth it, it’s only a small drop of glue inside the bottle. The screen clarity touch sensitivity is amazing it’s well worth the 19 bucks i paid for it..
just make sure you put tons of masking or sell tape on your Note 9 before proceeding and make sure you cure it with uv light, and please take your time.
it just turns into soft rubbery glue, witch can be picked away but don’t mess around with the edges of the glass screen protector. As that will allow for dust to get in! But once on, you will never go back it's like there’s no protector I used a generic brand as it’s the exact same as Whitestone dome but you’re paying for the brand name Whitestone that’s why they are charging you 50+ bucks.
The 19 bucks one is the exact same as Whitestone dome I believe it is the same company that supply to Whitestone dome! See ebay link https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/T-Max-Li...h=item21473e6d52:g:RccAAOSwZ~tbkQZx:rk:1:pf:0
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They use different glass. I know where whitestone sources there adhesive and even got a price for it lol. It's from batches that can be sold under the company's brand name because its defective. So they sell it heavily discounted to places that. I did a lot of testing with that stuff.
But you dont need to tape it. That stuff comes off very easy because it never fully cures. And even fully cured the phones display has an fluoropolymer coating on it "Kinda like Teflon" So that helps a ton for getting the stuff off. Also any on the phone can be easily removed even fully cured with some Methanol. The stuff we use can be removed with Methanol and that stuff is 1000X better then that junk in those kits. Just dont use something like Dynmax 431-T and expect it to come off that easy. It wont, But the stuff in those kits comes off very easy. I'll plug the ports and dip my phone in it and not thing anything of it. However i would not put a drop of 431-T on my display if i ever want it to come off. But using the cheap kits "Whitestone is a cheap kit that's a fact and i proven this" You will get some de lamination at some point if you do not baby your phone. Pressure on the edges can cause it and even rapid temperature changes. And that's because at the end of the day its all defective. The tube that comes with the kit if it was quality and not messed up is around $20 per 0.1oz or 2.95ml. Its expensive i deal with these types of adhesives every day. But they are buying stuff that had issues during the mixing process and being sold off as a lower quality for $0.50 per 4oz or 118.2ml. I found who is the manufacturer of it is and who the suppler who is distributing it out of China is.
Sad note. I had 7 tubes of some high end Optical Adhesive that expired on the 27th. Little over $21,000 in the trash. Still good still works but since it is past that expiration date we can no longer use it for production. That was a lot of Adhesive....But even more money. We also scrap gold epoxy lol. But that stuff goes out to have the gold reclaimed from it.
But that price is what the Whitestone should cost. I mean for the adhesive they use its still a bit much but they gotta make money so its fair. I would pick that kit over the dome any day.
bignazpwns said:
Every time i see someone put one of these on i cry.
Not defecting its from an improper install. You can not squeegee a zagg elite that hard because
-Adhesive is thick and super sticky. Air does not come out of it. Light heat helps but expect 15-20 min of working bubbles out by hand. Seriously. Light and smooth.
-Air bubbles with that thick of adhesive makes a high pressure point on the glass. Do this with any glass protector out there they all crack.
Install on this is horrible. I did one and outside of 20 min worth of getting out some bubbles it went on just fine. Second one if i had a bubble that was not coming out i used some really strong tape. Lifted the protector up with that then slowly let it down. That helped. Last one i used that with some light heat and it went on ok. Still a pain.
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So much of this.
It was a PITA to install but my install came out flawlessly. Though yeah, you have to take your time, be careful not to put too much pressure on the glass itself when installing. I found it best to relift the glass to expose the bubble in question, then smooth it out towards the edges with a felt wrapped squeegee...gently. Lifting the edges was the magic I used, much like installing a skin / car wrap, relieve the tension and squeegee smooth. Cracking glass on installation has always been a thing since the iPhone 4 days. If you put too much pressure in one location, pop. This is not a proper review video imo, user error does not constitute a bad review.
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They use different glass. I know where whitestone sources there adhesive and even got a price for it lol. It's from batches that can be sold under the company's brand name because its defective. So they sell it heavily discounted to places that. I did a lot of testing with that stuff.
But you dont need to tape it. That stuff comes off very easy because it never fully cures. And even fully cured the phones display has an fluoropolymer coating on it "Kinda like Teflon" So that helps a ton for getting the stuff off. Also any on the phone can be easily removed even fully cured with some Methanol. The stuff we use can be removed with Methanol and that stuff is 1000X better then that junk in those kits. Just dont use something like Dynmax 431-T and expect it to come off that easy. It wont, But the stuff in those kits comes off very easy. I'll plug the ports and dip my phone in it and not thing anything of it. However i would not put a drop of 431-T on my display if i ever want it to come off. But using the cheap kits "Whitestone is a cheap kit that's a fact and i proven this" You will get some de lamination at some point if you do not baby your phone. Pressure on the edges can cause it and even rapid temperature changes. And that's because at the end of the day its all defective. The tube that comes with the kit if it was quality and not messed up is around $20 per 0.1oz or 2.95ml. Its expensive i deal with these types of adhesives every day. But they are buying stuff that had issues during the mixing process and being sold off as a lower quality for $0.50 per 4oz or 118.2ml. I found who is the manufacturer of it is and who the suppler who is distributing it out of China is.
Sad note. I had 7 tubes of some high end Optical Adhesive that expired on the 27th. Little over $21,000 in the trash. Still good still works but since it is past that expiration date we can no longer use it for production. That was a lot of Adhesive....But even more money. We also scrap gold epoxy lol. But that stuff goes out to have the gold reclaimed from it.
But that price is what the Whitestone should cost. I mean for the adhesive they use its still a bit much but they gotta make money so its fair. I would pick that kit over the dome any day.
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Do you have a link where i can purchase the high end Optical Adhesive ? That you would use on your smartphone ? And thanks for the in-depth info respect!
This product is awful. I got this put on at Best Buy 10 days ago and it is already cracked.
I have no idea what caused the break. No drop, no bang, no bump.
Zagg Lifetime warranty = $10 everytime you use it = basura
Tomorrow, I will drive 48 miles to San Jose Zagg and see if they will put on the Zagg film protector instead. Wish me luck.
johninsf said:
This product is awful. I got this put on at Best Buy 10 days ago and it is already cracked.
I have no idea what caused the break. No drop, no bang, no bump.
Zagg Lifetime warranty = $10 everytime you use it = basura
Tomorrow, I will drive 48 miles to San Jose Zagg and see if they will put on the Zagg film protector instead. Wish me luck.
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Was the Best Buy install perfect with no bubbles or any problems? Maybe Zagg can get the Elite on perfect?
Slightly off topic. Would you know if cleaning the screen with alcohol wipes ( isopropyl) destroys the oleophobic coating or not ? I'm assuming it may after a given amount of times.
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They use different glass. I know where whitestone sources there adhesive and even got a price for it lol. It's from batches that can be sold under the company's brand name because its defective. So they sell it heavily discounted to places that. I did a lot of testing with that stuff.
But you dont need to tape it. That stuff comes off very easy because it never fully cures. And even fully cured the phones display has an fluoropolymer coating on it "Kinda like Teflon" So that helps a ton for getting the stuff off. Also any on the phone can be easily removed even fully cured with some Methanol. The stuff we use can be removed with Methanol and that stuff is 1000X better then that junk in those kits. Just dont use something like Dynmax 431-T and expect it to come off that easy. It wont, But the stuff in those kits comes off very easy. I'll plug the ports and dip my phone in it and not thing anything of it. However i would not put a drop of 431-T on my display if i ever want it to come off. But using the cheap kits "Whitestone is a cheap kit that's a fact and i proven this" You will get some de lamination at some point if you do not baby your phone. Pressure on the edges can cause it and even rapid temperature changes. And that's because at the end of the day its all defective. The tube that comes with the kit if it was quality and not messed up is around $20 per 0.1oz or 2.95ml. Its expensive i deal with these types of adhesives every day. But they are buying stuff that had issues during the mixing process and being sold off as a lower quality for $0.50 per 4oz or 118.2ml. I found who is the manufacturer of it is and who the suppler who is distributing it out of China is.
Sad note. I had 7 tubes of some high end Optical Adhesive that expired on the 27th. Little over $21,000 in the trash. Still good still works but since it is past that expiration date we can no longer use it for production. That was a lot of Adhesive....But even more money. We also scrap gold epoxy lol. But that stuff goes out to have the gold reclaimed from it.
But that price is what the Whitestone should cost. I mean for the adhesive they use its still a bit much but they gotta make money so its fair. I would pick that kit over the dome any day.
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I have this one.
https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/bl10NpiD
It can where it down over time but no more then useing your phone. I refresh mine every other month with one of the $12 kits from Walmart. Each vial I get 2 uses out of. I just reseal the plastic vial after. So $12 gives you 4 uses.
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Was the Best Buy install perfect with no bubbles or any problems? Maybe Zagg can get the Elite on perfect?
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Yes. Best buy did a great job. No bubbles at all. The guy had to put it on twice. The first had dust. The next, he spent 15 min. removing dust with the tape.
Get the RhinoShield 9H Tempered Glass Screen Protector. For me its really the perfect protector FINALLY. Just take your time with the install and watch the video.
Is there any temprered glass with a hole to selfie camera?
I have tried some good temprered glass but without a hole and in night selfies photos has an hallo on the edges from the camera circle light!
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I am sure you will find something like that. I had a similar one, unfortunately I do not remember the name of the manufacturer. I was also very pleased
I found this. https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B087LSGM5P/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_i_u6B6EbPQC2K3M
Not sure how good it is but it has a hole it seems.
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The Whitestone Dome Tempered Glass has a selfie cutout and is awesome.
but the price is crazy for tempered glass...
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but the price is crazy for tempered glass...
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This is true. Direct from Whitestone it was like $30. (Regularly more, supposedly). They shipped fast and it came intact and not broken, so there's that.
Trust everyone that says to get a whitestone dome. Best quality, and application available. Period.
Don't worry about the price, because it includes lifetime warranty. Screen breaks, you send a picture as proof, and they send you a new one for $10. For life.
The problem with the hole is cleaning. You'll find it hard and you'll be much more likely to scratch the display... and camera shooting surface.
If you cover it you will degrade the image to some extent but probably quit small.
Most high quality plastic protectors like Gorilla IQ Sheild also have a hole (although I would prefer they not!). However their thickness is less than their glass counterparts so it's easier to clean. The wet apply ones are much easier to apply and remove than glass ones. The IQ Sheild typically has a half year lifespan and costs a few dollars.
Even after close to a year was still almost clear when removed.
So there's that...
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This is true. Direct from Whitestone it was like $30. (Regularly more, supposedly). They shipped fast and it came intact and not broken, so there's that.
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Yeah I purchased directly from drop shipping offshore Whitestone.
They were a complete fubar.
Sent me an open box special at full price for my 10+; right box, tray but the glass was for a fking Apple model.
No phone support, slow response and made me ship the unless one back even after photos. No doubt to be repackaged yet again.
They took at least 2 weeks to provide a refund and not even a texted sorry for the inconvenience. Completely unacceptable slovenly support and inept, chintzy product management.
Fk Whitestone☠☠☠
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Yeah I purchased directly from drop shipping offshore Whitestone.
They were a complete fubar.
Sent me an open box special at full price for my 10+; right box, tray but the glass was for a fking Apple model.
No phone support, slow response and made me ship the unless one back even after photos. No doubt to be repackaged yet again.
They took at least 2 weeks to provide a refund and not even a texted sorry for the inconvenience. Completely unacceptable slovenly support and inept, chintzy product management.
Fk Whitestone☠☠☠
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Lol you bought a used one from a shady 3rd party, who SAID it was new. They have EXCELLENT support. But not if you buy from bad places
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Lol you bought a used one from a shady 3rd party, who SAID it was new. They have EXCELLENT support. But not if you buy from bad places
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It was direct from the Whitestone website.
I got the receipt.
Don't even try to mince my words... you do understand English and coherent sentences, right?