So here in Las Vegas there is a Zagg store. Based on everyone's recommendation I decided to get a Zagg InvisiShield for my phone. I picked up 2 or 3 of the demo phones and was like hey this doesn't feel stick or tacky like everyone said it would!
So i look at the prices:
Zagg Full Body Skin $21
Installation $12 includes free Zagg microfiber bag.
So I decided to say OK, Ill let them install it so if they screw something up they can fix it on the spot. The fate of my phone is in their hands. I go to the counter and they tell me come back in 30 minutes.
So i am roaming around the mall, spending money on other crap I don't need. 30 minutes later I go back and pick up my phone. The moment I pick it up i am like WTF! Phone feels like its wrapped in a used condom!
I ask the sales associate why it doesn't feel like the "demo" phone and he goes ohhh that's the wrong one out there. That phone was put out there to show all the scratches on it. I go grab the demo phone and go dude where are the scratches on this thing!! There were none I was FURIOUS!!!!!!!!!!
So needless to say I have this $40+ dollar Zagg POS on my phone and I am really hating it, but I cant bring myself to tear it off and lose my $40. I don't know what to do.
Things I immediately noticed for those of you who want to know what to expect from a Zagg InvisiShield.
1. Tacky Tacky Tacky - Phone feels like it wrapped in a used condom
2. Screen Resolution - This thing KILLS the look of the screen. Looks like a TV wrapped in Saran Wrap
3. Exposed corners - the skin doesn't even cover the corners of the phone. If on an you drop it on a corner edge you will dent the case easily
4. Feel - The edges of each individual piece don't line up properly on the phone, the screen protector is off to one side a little and the other pieces on the skin don't line up. This makes it so the edges of each piece you can really FEEL. It really ruins it.
5. The edges also give the edges of the touch screen a rough edge that you can easily see over the black sections of the digitizer.
I will try and get some photos tonight of everything I am talking about. All in all i am VERY unhappy with the Zagg.
So the question is do I take it off and deal with no protection, or say screw it and leave it on?
As for the way the screen looks and the tackiness, that will change over time. The screen should clear up in a couple days. The tackiness goes away the more you handle the phone... the oils from your hands will change the feel over time and make it very smooth in comparison to what it feels like right now. On my G1, I can honestly say it took a few weeks of normal use and the tackiness was gone... you just have to give this time.
As for the edges and corners... well that's why I would personally go for the BSE skin... they did a much better job of covering the corners properly. If the installation on some of the pieces is out of alignment, I'd take it back and tell them to redo it properly.
There would be no way for them to actually DO that. Looking at the piece you can clearly see some are too small for the areas they are trying to cover.
Ill give the skin a few weeks and see how it feels.
For those of you interested here are some photos from the other thread that explain what I mean PERFECTLY
http://adambuckeridge.com/nexus-one/zagg-nexus-one
Well, as far as the screen protector size... EVERY stick-on protector is short. I'm guessing they all used the same template before the phone came out and are too lazy to change it.
I thought it was supposed to be invisible?
On all my previous phone, 4 so far, i used Invisible Shield, all installed on my own, and had always recommended it frens. So naturally i ordered InvisibleShield before i ordered my N1.
Previously InvisibleShield shipping was fast, this time round Nexus One came first and the shield came nearly 2 weeks after that. I never use the phone till the shield came, since i still had my old phone.
The InvisibleShield was PITA to install, the corners was not covered (as usual), the fit sucks!, Alot of big gaps here and there, i tried installing it 4-5 times, no matter how i tried i was not happy with the fit and quality.
So i return them for a refund, I needed a skin badly so i google around and read on several forums to find a better replacement.
I found BestSkinsEver, read alot of gd reviews on it, but was skeptical since the price was way cheaper then other full body skin out there.
When it arrives, i was abit disappointed. It came in a small envelope, whereas Zagg came with cardboard box with application pad and stuff. So i followed the online instruction on how to install BSE, i was amaze at how easy it was to install!
Other then mixing your own application liquid, the fit was great. I installed it once and it fit perfect!!! Very minimal bubbles, all the corners were covered!!! I did not use the screen protector though, since i prefered matt ones, easier to use Swype with.
Its been more then a month since i used BSE, still looks great. Corners not lifting, no signs of dirt trap on the sides, a prob i use always have with Zagg.
I highly recommend BSE, cheaper, fits great, cover corners, easy to install and also very enviromental friendly shipping package.
ur meant to leave it overnight after applying the skin
jcohenlv said:
So here in Las Vegas there is a Zagg store. Based on everyone's recommendation I decided to get a Zagg InvisiShield for my phone. I picked up 2 or 3 of the demo phones and was like hey this doesn't feel stick or tacky like everyone said it would!
So i look at the prices:
Zagg Full Body Skin $21
Installation $12 includes free Zagg microfiber bag.
So I decided to say OK, Ill let them install it so if they screw something up they can fix it on the spot. The fate of my phone is in their hands. I go to the counter and they tell me come back in 30 minutes.
So i am roaming around the mall, spending money on other crap I don't need. 30 minutes later I go back and pick up my phone. The moment I pick it up i am like WTF! Phone feels like its wrapped in a used condom!
I ask the sales associate why it doesn't feel like the "demo" phone and he goes ohhh that's the wrong one out there. That phone was put out there to show all the scratches on it. I go grab the demo phone and go dude where are the scratches on this thing!! There were none I was FURIOUS!!!!!!!!!!
So needless to say I have this $40+ dollar Zagg POS on my phone and I am really hating it, but I cant bring myself to tear it off and lose my $40. I don't know what to do.
Things I immediately noticed for those of you who want to know what to expect from a Zagg InvisiShield.
1. Tacky Tacky Tacky - Phone feels like it wrapped in a used condom
2. Screen Resolution - This thing KILLS the look of the screen. Looks like a TV wrapped in Saran Wrap
3. Exposed corners - the skin doesn't even cover the corners of the phone. If on an you drop it on a corner edge you will dent the case easily
4. Feel - The edges of each individual piece don't line up properly on the phone, the screen protector is off to one side a little and the other pieces on the skin don't line up. This makes it so the edges of each piece you can really FEEL. It really ruins it.
5. The edges also give the edges of the touch screen a rough edge that you can easily see over the black sections of the digitizer.
I will try and get some photos tonight of everything I am talking about. All in all i am VERY unhappy with the Zagg.
So the question is do I take it off and deal with no protection, or say screw it and leave it on?
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100% spot on.
I just bought the screen shield part, and it looked like goat crap, and it wass tacky as hell. The fit was poor because it's too floppy to align, the bubbles that are supposed to go away after 24 hours didn't and there were areas around the edges that didn't stay down.
I hated it, ripped it off the phone after the 25th hour and I'll badmouth those crappy shields for the rest of my life, or until I can't remember what a Nexus One was anymore. A warranty of a lifetime replacement of goat poop is worthless to me. It was a complete waste of my time and money.
I ended up buying a Seidio case for it - it's nice and easy to remove. I will look into another brand of screen protector. I don't care if they don't last forever - if it goes a day without looking like crap it's way ahead of a Zagg. I guess when it looks that bad to begin with, you can't really tell when it's degrading too easily.
Bottom line - and I have seen a lot of them since, is that they are ALL tacky, they ALL look like crap and the ALL introduce tons of artifacts to the screen.
Buyer beware - there is no money back on these.
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I did. It was still an awful pile of crap on my screen after 24 hours - and I let it sit. It was the first time I didn't have to charge a battery in a while.
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I thought it was supposed to be invisible?
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That was a joke, right?
Meh. Zagg makes good products overall... But the FIT on the N1 is absolutely atrocious. I will gladly buy a custom zaggskin if they can get a proper fit... I just emailed them to request information on possible plans to change their design for better corner coverage, or any other options they might be able to offer.
I'm not expecting anything in regards to getting a skin from them... But I'll hope nonetheless. (I would buy BSE, but I'd REALLY love to have a custom design if Zagg can answer my request.)
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As for the way the screen looks and the tackiness, that will change over time. The screen should clear up in a couple days. The tackiness goes away the more you handle the phone... the oils from your hands will change the feel over time and make it very smooth in comparison to what it feels like right now. On my G1, I can honestly say it took a few weeks of normal use and the tackiness was gone... you just have to give this time.
As for the edges and corners... well that's why I would personally go for the BSE skin... they did a much better job of covering the corners properly. If the installation on some of the pieces is out of alignment, I'd take it back and tell them to redo it properly.
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Should and does are two different things. I've seen lots of them on iphones, and they all look like crap, all of them with some bubbling under gooey, sticky plastic and no small amount of screen distortion. After I bought mine, I inspected installations of Zagg at Best Buy where I bought it - guess what? There were about a half dozen of them on test phone and they were all tacky. According to the resident geek, most of them were on there for well over a couple of weeks. The tackiness may diminish somewhat over time, but it will never be gone. Anyone who says otherwise is full of it.
I think the reason these are so over-hyped is because people feel like they were fools for spending upwards of $15.00 for a cheap chunk of stamped plastic that performs so poorly, so they promote them instead. What a crock.
I bought one for my Zune 120 and installed the back and didn't bother installing the rest of it. Ended up taking it off the back. I will never buy any more of these "cover all" device covers again.
another thing that that might not be evident right away is that crud sticks to the outer edges of these types of screen protectors i had this on two non touch screen phones and didn't mind it except for the gummy crap that i'd be peeling away from the edges all the time.
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Should and does are two different things. I've seen lots of them on iphones, and they all look like crap, all of them with some bubbling under gooey, sticky plastic and no small amount of screen distortion. After I bought mine, I inspected installations of Zagg at Best Buy where I bought it - guess what? There were about a half dozen of them on test phone and they were all tacky. According to the resident geek, most of them were on there for well over a couple of weeks. The tackiness may diminish somewhat over time, but it will never be gone. Anyone who says otherwise is full of it.
I think the reason these are so over-hyped is because people feel like they were fools for spending upwards of $15.00 for a cheap chunk of stamped plastic that performs so poorly, so they promote them instead. What a crock.
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Ok, then allow me to clarify. It DOES clear up if you install it properly. I've been using Zagg or Zagg-like products since I had my T-mobile Dash. It's just like installing window tint... if you're completely haphazard with it, it will look like crap. But in all the ones I've applied, they've all LOOKED great, aside from the orange peel effect that's evident on just about all the skin-type products. The best that I have used thus far is Clear Protector. I've had their screen protector on my G1 for almost 9 months and it looks perfect still.
Also, it (and the others) was tacky coming from just the glass screen at first. Over time the CP on the G1 has gotten MUCH smoother and less sticky. I suspect a small amount of this change is really just me getting used to the film and forgetting how smooth the glass is on its own (I remember when I took the last Zagg off my G1 prior to the CP and being surprised at how much more slick it felt), but I have compared it to one of my fresher installs and there's a noticeable difference.
Anyway, my main point is that you're right about the tackiness never completely going away, but wrong about the screen looking like crap after the install has settled. If it still looks like crap after a few days, then the installer screwed up.
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Anyway, my main point is that you're right about the tackiness never completely going away, but wrong about the screen looking like crap after the install has settled. If it still looks like crap after a few days, then the installer screwed up.
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Well, it's evident that it's pretty damn easy to screw up, because every installation I have seen looks screwed up. Even if there were no bubbles, the screen look mottled and distorted. And if you look closely enough, there are always bubbles.
As far as my own experience goes, I didn't just "haphazardly" apply it - I followed the directions supplied with it to a T.
That "orange peel effect" you refer to is NOT on all screen protectors - this isn't my first go 'round with screen protectors.
The Zagg product is just a lousy, crappy, overpriced, poorly engineered product, and I don't know how anyone being objective could think otherwise. The fact that a company provides no avenue for refund is very telling about their product. Effectively, there is no satisfaction guarantee - a guaranteed lifetime supply of goat dung isn't satisfaction.
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you're ... wrong about the screen looking like crap after the install has settled. If it still looks like crap after a few days, then the installer screwed up.
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Uh, can I point out here that "looks like crap" is completely subjective? You may have been happy with it but I was never very happy with mine. The fact is the thing is not completely "invisible" - the orange peel effect is very noticeable and it's going to be up to each individual user to determine how acceptable that is. I thought it looked like ass, myself.
Frankly, I was just thoroughly unhappy with the Zagg Invisible Shield. The whole-body protector was utter sh*t, with the corners peeling up left and right, and gunk getting under all the corners making them impossible to stick back down (not to mention the large gaps at the corners), and even the screen protector got lint and dust under the edges, bubbling it up. It wouldn't be so bad if it weren't so outrageously expensive and unable to be removed and re-applied.
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Well, it's evident that it's pretty damn easy to screw up, because every installation I have seen looks screwed up. Even if there were no bubbles, the screen look mottled and distorted. And if you look closely enough, there are always bubbles.
As far as my own experience goes, I didn't just "haphazardly" apply it - I followed the directions supplied with it to a T.
That "orange peel effect" you refer to is NOT on all screen protectors - this isn't my first go 'round with screen protectors.
The Zagg product is just a lousy, crappy, overpriced, poorly engineered product, and I don't know how anyone being objective could think otherwise. The fact that a company provides no avenue for refund is very telling about their product. Effectively, there is no satisfaction guarantee - a guaranteed lifetime supply of goat dung isn't satisfaction.
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While I agree, Zagg isn't the best out there, I can guarantee there are at least a couple that are worse! Anyway, there is enough competition and alternatives to never have to buy either of those brands, including Zagg.
binary visions said:
Uh, can I point out here that "looks like crap" is completely subjective? You may have been happy with it but I was never very happy with mine. The fact is the thing is not completely "invisible" - the orange peel effect is very noticeable and it's going to be up to each individual user to determine how acceptable that is. I thought it looked like ass, myself.
Frankly, I was just thoroughly unhappy with the Zagg Invisible Shield. The whole-body protector was utter sh*t, with the corners peeling up left and right, and gunk getting under all the corners making them impossible to stick back down (not to mention the large gaps at the corners), and even the screen protector got lint and dust under the edges, bubbling it up. It wouldn't be so bad if it weren't so outrageously expensive and unable to be removed and re-applied.
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I agree with your initial comment... and on a continuum of various subjective outcomes, I'd hardly say Zagg looks like crap. Ghost Armor is the worst I've found....yellowing after only a couple months. I'm sure others are also pretty crappy in comparison since the number of knockoffs is staggering. That being said, there are many products superior to the Zagg as well. Clear Protector, PhantomSkinz, BSE, etc.
I should clarify, contrary to what it seems you guys think, that I was never totally happy with the InvisibleSHIELD. I much preferred the Clear Protector on my G1...and on my N1, I am thoroughly happy with the dcmugen88 static screen protectors. So if I came off as a gung-ho Zagg fan... I'm not. I do think they're overpriced (seriously, $15 for just a screen protector is retarded), and there are better alternatives for less.
The point I was trying to get across, which everyone seems hellbent on disputing is that how good you are at installing makes a difference, sometimes all the difference. I can install at least the screen protector portions of these skin-type products with my eyes closed and the next day you won't even see them on there...I'm sure others can too cuz it's not rocketscience. On the other hand, I'm sure some of you don't have the patience or skill to get it looking that good either... just the way things are. That's all I'm saying. Anyway, if you guys want a great screen protector, I've been saying for over a month to go with dcmugen88... exactly the same as the Seidio product at a fraction of the price...or if you want a skin, get the BSE (Best Skins Ever) product. Paul22000's installation pics are proof positive that it's the best skin for our phones.
Well, I stand corrected. Evidently, there is an avenue for a partial refund. I say partial because the buyer is on the hook for shipping the entire package back to Zagg, and that's not free. You also need to get it done within 45 days and have your original sales receipt.
In the end, you can get SOME money back in exchange for a boatload more effort than it's worth. Still, I'd rather give the post office some money and Zagg zip, zilch, nada - so I'll be enduring the aggravation of the pursuit of a refund on general principle.
Update: After two days, I got an email back from Zagg effectively saying they don't refund items they didn't sell directly. This is not a returnable item from the retailer I bought it from - so I am back to getting even more camel dung for my money - or nothing. I choose nothing and a lesson learned.
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That was a joke, right?
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Of course, but but someone was bound to say it.
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Of course, but but someone was bound to say it.
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Well, you forgot to say "bazinga!"
Ok so its been 4 days ......
Case is still Tacky, not as bad as day 1 but still tacky!
Orange peel effect on the screen has not cleared up!
Dust and gunk are starting to build up on the edges and its been in the micro fiber bag since I bought it..... what a POS.
If you say the orange peel affect is from "poor installation" I will laugh my butt off. This was installed BY A ZAGG REP IN A ZAGG STORE! So don't give me crap about "poor installation"
I have decided to make a compromise on this. I am going to keep the full body and just replace the screen protector portion of it. I cant stand the way it affects the way it makes the screen more difficult to type on. So now I am looking for a good CLEAR screen protector.
Any recommendations?
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I just got a full body InvisibleSHIELD installed on my verizon device at a local Zagg mall kiosk, the installer had to cut the bottom to accommodate the 3.5 jack and the side for the volume rocker. The Installer said that Zagg doesn't actually make a Verizon specific body shield. Anyway, here are some pictures of it.
http://s188.photobucket.com/albums/...ction=tags¤t=InvisibleSHIELD on VZW TP2
I contacted Zagg about this and a rep told me that because the installer cut the shield that the warranty is now vioded....
This is what she said
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Hello *****,
Thank you for contacting ZAGG, where we are Zealous About Great Gadgets! My name is Betty and I appreciate the opportunity to assist you.
I sincerely apologize you have been misinformed. We do offer an invisibleSHIELD specifically for the HTC Touch Pro 2 (Verizon). You can find this item on the following links:
http://www.zagg.com/invisibleshield/htc-touch-pro-2-verizon-cases-screen-protectors-covers-skins-shields.php
http://www.zagg.com/invisibleshield/search/search.php?x=0&y=0&keyword=htc+touch+pro
In regards to your email, retail locations are authorized sellers of ZAGG. They also have their own separate policy and procedures.
I understand the sales representative at the mall kiosk altered your invisibleSHIELD. If the invisibleSHIELD is cut by anyone other than our professional shield designers, your Lifetime warranty will be voided. We do not recommend cutting or altering the invisibleSHIELD.
I hope this helps! Please feel free to contact me if you have any further questions or comments.
All the best,
B****
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Hi B****,
Thanks for the speedy response, however let me see if I understand this; because the authorized seller cut my shield in order to make a fit onto my phone, my warranty is voided and now I need to pay for a new shield if I want the correct one installed onto my phone?
Concerned Customer
I am currently awaiting a response from them. I tried calling the kiosk back but no one is answering, they're probably at lunch, however I'm not sure what to tell them aside from "You LIED AND YOU F###ed up my shield, do it again!" If anyone else has had a VZW Zagg shield installed, let me know what the results where please.
Did the installer inform you that they would have to modify the shields before they hacked on them? How did you pay? If by CC then you may have the option of disputing with your CC company.
Bad Zagg experience
I ordered a full body Verizon version via the Zagg website. I was careful to select the Verizon version. Because I have no patience I ordered express delivery.
When the product arrived it was a generic version. Holes in the wrong place ect.. When I called they implied I ordered wrong and suggested next time I order to select the Verizon version. I asked the rep. to order for me so it was correct, and again like a fool I paid for the express delivery. 2 days later it didn't show and when I checked the status it was on backorder. When I tried to cancel the express delivery for obvious reasons they would not do it.
I asked how they accepted my order when they were on backorder. Anyway I was not happy.
I ended up using the generic screen, other than a small camera hole on the top right it fit. After a couple days I was not happy with it's apperance, and how the sides felt. I looked for another option. I found Ghost Armor after searching this site.
I first ordered the full body then minutes later decided to order just the screen not knowing if there would be a difference. Not only did they check wih me to make sure I didn't double order, but they packed both orders together and refunded me the shipping on one order.
Bottom line, no question between the two the Ghost Armor is the best screen cover. You don't even know it's there. However the side and back covers are not great. If protecting your whole phone is vital then Zagg is for you. The Zagg screen wraps around the edges and offers more coverage.
My Verizon Zagg showed up and I left it in the box for now. I don't think I'm covering the back or sides. If I do I will use the Zagg back cover. How funny will that be?!
jsquared, sounds like you have too much money to spend on screen protectors... But is it true that the Zagg covers the sides on the screen portion?
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My Verizon Zagg showed up and I left it in the box for now. I don't think I'm covering the back or sides. If I do I will use the Zagg back cover. How funny will that be?!
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Do you mind taking a look at what the front of the cover looks like?
Yes, the Zagg covers the entire screen and wraps around the top corners, bottom corners, around the bottom buttons, and both sides. However, it does not cover the entire sides. It prob. covers half the sides. It stops at the side crease. The Zagg does cover more than the Ghost Armor sides. My problem with Zagg is that the film is a little cloudy and sticky. It's obvious that there is a screen cover on.
My only concern is the screen and the Ghost Armor is perfect because I can't even tell it's there.
HOWEVER, my best advice is for you to buy both.... that way you can't go wrong
I wish I had seen this first
I just had mine installed at the Valley Faire Mall in San Jose while I traveled through. I was a little leary as he was putting it on because it looked like he had to trim the bottom also and the hole is in the wrong place up top. The center pieces where not cut correctly either and there are gaps where the screen meets the body and the screen. He insists these will go away after 24 hours or so. I think it looks like a total piece of crap. Carefully placed saran wrap would have looked more professional. I'm not even going to bother calling them. I will be in Salt Lake on Friday and I will show them what their "Authorized Resellers" are selling as the correct product and let them explain in person. I have Ghost Armor on my Storm that was put on in their kiosk in Chicago and it looks and feels 100% better. Can't even tell its there. This looks like I left the original plastic on the phone. Maybe if I show them my Ghost Armored Storm it will inspire them to make a better quality product. Ya Right. Highly unrecommended.
I attached some pics of the front. That bottom left corner is never going to lay properly no matter how much time. As you can see it was a real professional job.
Techitrucker said:
I just had mine installed at the Valley Faire Mall in San Jose while I traveled through. I was a little leary as he was putting it on because it looked like he had to trim the bottom also and the hole is in the wrong place up top. The center pieces where not cut correctly either and there are gaps where the screen meets the body and the screen. He insists these will go away after 24 hours or so. I think it looks like a total piece of crap. Carefully placed saran wrap would have looked more professional. I'm not even going to bother calling them. I will be in Salt Lake on Friday and I will show them what their "Authorized Resellers" are selling as the correct product and let them explain in person. I have Ghost Armor on my Storm that was put on in their kiosk in Chicago and it looks and feels 100% better. Can't even tell its there. This looks like I left the original plastic on the phone. Maybe if I show them my Ghost Armored Storm it will inspire them to make a better quality product. Ya Right. Highly unrecommended.
I attached some pics of the front. That bottom left corner is never going to lay properly no matter how much time. As you can see it was a real professional job.
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LMFAO!!!!! that's exactly where I had mine done at! I emailed Zagg and they said that they're going to send me the correct version, I just gotta register my product at their website.
Well it's good to see some positive comments on the ghost armor. I ordered the screen protector only, but have never used it before so I am anxious to see how it looks. I have used the invisishield and phantom skinz, and really haven't like either one. And it's sad to say that I did a better install of the protector myself than the one in the picture posted. Hopefully the ghost armor will not be as sticky and noticeable as the other two. I have yet to see any real negative comments on it yet. The installer of that shield should have his @ss whooped for screwing up your phone....LOL
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Well it's good to see some positive comments on the ghost armor. I ordered the screen protector only, but have never used it before so I am anxious to see how it looks. I have used the invisishield and phantom skinz, and really haven't like either one. And it's sad to say that I did a better install of the protector myself than the one in the picture posted. Hopefully the ghost armor will not be as sticky and noticeable as the other two. I have yet to see any real negative comments on it yet. The installer of that shield should have his @ss whooped for screwing up your phone....LOL
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Honestly, as much as I love a slick slippery phone, I prefer something that has a bit of grip on it so it wont fall outa my hand and it wont slip off my desk. He DID **** up my cover, not my phone, and Zagg will provide a replacement (minus shipping >_< ).
Well, they are sending me a new one, though they tried to make it seem as if I should go away and they where doing me a favor. They screw the pooch, and I have to put $25 bucks on hold so they will send me a proper one. At least they eating the shipping to me. Its going back to them in a white envelope. Screwiest lifetime warranty in the business, designed to keep people from wanting to take advantage of it. Never again.
Yeah, they told me the same, I think I'm going to call the kiosk again and talk to the manager about this, see if I can get him to order in the tp2 skin so that they obsorb the $4 hit (sorry but now-a-days 4 bucks is a lot for shipping for something they they ****ed up on). Obviously if 2 random people on this board happen on the same thread about the same kiosk, then this is probably a problem for them, this doesn't reflect well on Zagg, even if they don't officially own the kiosks.
i installed mine myself and it all went well everything fit but i'm wondering is there supposed to be a piece for around the screen? Mine came with two pieces, the back cover and one for the screen itself but the glossy part around the screen is uncovered. if someone could let me know that would be great thanks
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i installed mine myself and it all went well everything fit but i'm wondering is there supposed to be a piece for around the screen? Mine came with two pieces, the back cover and one for the screen itself but the glossy part around the screen is uncovered. if someone could let me know that would be great thanks
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No, there is no piece for the glossy black part around the screen. My installer told me it was because it may peel off while removing the shield. He said it previously happened with different models of the Blackberry.
After having a Zagg on my TP1 and liking it until it started losing adhesive and peeling off, I originally ordered the Zagg IS generic GSM TP2 model (the one that overlaps the screen and needs to be cut for the 3.5MM jack) and altered it myself to fit as I hadn't heard about the Ghost Armor yet and Zagg didn't have a Verizon version at the time. That said, when I finally got the Ghost Armor, I found it a far superior product to Zagg. No orange peel, better appearance, and better feel, and easier to apply. You really can't tell it's there. I won't be using anything else from now on.
Just talked with the people at the kiosk I had the shield installed; despite what Zagg told me via email they said that they don't make a Verizon specific shield, and that they ALWAYS must alter the shield for the TP2 for Verizon and even some other phones and that Zagg was lying about making Verizon specific shields. I'm going to have to call Zagg about this tomorrow (it's pass their business hours, and email conversation seems to take them 1 day to reply, no matter what) and see who's bullshitting here... Ghost Armor is starting to look like a better option...
tell the idiots at the kiosk to check out zagg's site: http://www.zagg.com/invisibleshield...es-screen-protectors-covers-skins-shields.php
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No, there is no piece for the glossy black part around the screen. My installer told me it was because it may peel off while removing the shield. He said it previously happened with different models of the Blackberry.
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LAME....that part sticks out more too. I wish I had a protector on it ):
Got the replacement today. Though it fits better now, it leaves the most vulnerable parts of the device exposed. They really need to make some kind of surround to protect the frame around the screen as its basically useless without something like that. Kind of a lame excuse that it may peel the device on removal since the surround on a Blackberry is painted and the TP2 is solid plastic. Nothing to peel. It does look much better now though.
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Got the replacement today. Though it fits better now, it leaves the most vulnerable parts of the device exposed. They really need to make some kind of surround to protect the frame around the screen as its basically useless without something like that. Kind of a lame excuse that it may peel the device on removal since the surround on a Blackberry is painted and the TP2 is solid plastic. Nothing to peel. It does look much better now though.
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Damn, we must be in sync or something, got my replacement today as well, I took it to a different kiosk (closer to my home) and I explained the story to the guy and he installed my new shield for free , I also sent the incorrect shields back to Zagg for a refund (or atleast for them to de-authorize the cash they have on hold on my account). I will be complaining to the Valley Fair kiosk owner and try to get a refund for the installation at the very least for this whole fiasco.
Just saw this offer and wanted to share it, free protectors at**LInk removed - advertising a commercial site*** I don't know if they are any good, but they only charge transport costs for now
Thanks for the info!!
Nice one! just placed the order and will receive it in a few days
thanks for the heads up!
A few people at slickdeals.net that bought these last time said these were pretty crap!
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A few people at slickdeals.net that bought these last time said these were pretty crap!
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Well they are free. (Sort-of)
There is another thread running about these.
Long story short, not very good and have now removed the shield after less than a week.
the shield works well for me and the cutting is pretty accurate.
just gotta spray lots of water during application and everything will come out quite nicely. Im intending to get another spare one as Ive heard that such shield will become yellowish after some time.
overall, im impressed with wat ive received given the amount of money ive spent
I've ordered one of these sunday just past hope it comes soon
Mine arrived. I got 2 sets as figured I'd mess some up first time.
First impressions:
Never used invisible shield type products before. The pieces are very accurately shaped, but not completely cut, which made separating them from the surround quite hard. I found best method was to separate each individual section by roughly cutting around it leaving excess on all 4 sides, then apply to phone, and use the excess to move it around to avoid fingerprints on the sections.
A strong pull stripped off the excess of the vinyl, and also made them fit very snuggly. This works particularly well on the curved back - which I suggest you fit first.
I put them on dry and found they went on fine. Some tiny bubbles which went away after a day.
The screen protector I found impossible to get on without larger bubbles - I tried wet and dry. The texture's not very nice either so suggest you use some of the excellent ebay cheapo screen protectors. Buy lots if you're fussy about bubbles like I am.
All the cut pieces are a very neat fit. Once on, your phone becomes very shiny, and very grippy. The raised edges of the pieces, particularly on the sides, can be felt. It doesn't look as nice as a bare phone, but it's functional.
Mine arrived last week.
I had a lot of problems installing them. I was left with a very wet table, a lot of used paper towels and a few dusty stealth guards. Maybe I can find enough courage to try it again later. But at the moment I'm too frustrated with them
I also was quite surprised by the size of the bubbles. As you said, the cheap eBay protectors don't have that kind of bubbles. I must admit I didn't wait the recommended 24h
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I must admit I didn't wait the recommended 24h
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it makes a lot of difference
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i can confirm...got one for Desire and one to Hd2...to dificult to apply, and they look too bad, seems you are grabbing a piece of plastic.
in my desire just kept the display protection, in my Hd2 im waiting for a friend to see an then remove that crap... i bought one from another brand for my Iphone, and it was easy to apply, it came with a thing to apply the protection and it was great.
Belive me , sometimes in my job i have to decorate cars and i got some experience in applying that...
Rubbish. Screen protector didn't go on easily at all and as I removed any bubbles on it, it just damaged the protector, leaving a mark! Hated the feeling when touching it as it has far too much resistance compared to the bare screen.
The actual body covers for it are utter tat! Makes the phone look like a cheap children's toy and fits badly!
£2.80 wasted on this, but at least it means I won't waste money on full price protectors!
Glad i bought a brando ultra clear
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Rubbish. Screen protector didn't go on easily at all and as I removed any bubbles on it, it just damaged the protector, leaving a mark! Hated the feeling when touching it as it has far too much resistance compared to the bare screen.
The actual body covers for it are utter tat! Makes the phone look like a cheap children's toy and fits badly!
£2.80 wasted on this, but at least it means I won't waste money on full price protectors!
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dont get it. it's rubbish. Thick as hell. it's like putting a condom over your phone. looks and feel funny after you manage to get it on. Getting it on is a project by itself. also its super shinny and looks very plastic. save yourself the shipping cost.
Hmm, I <3 my Zagg InvisibleSHIELD, this would be a nice back up just incase my zagg lifetime warranty fails to renew. Have the people bashing this promo tried the official Zagg invisibleSHIELD? I wonder if it's the quality of the Stealth Guard, or the idea of having a plastic coating all around that's turning you off.
If the quality of the Stealth Guard is as good as the Zagg InvisibleSHIELD then I wouldn't mind paying the $3.00 shipping. But I'm getting the idea that the Stealth Guards are cheaper, and of poor quality when compared to the Zagg InvisibleSHIELD.
The bestskinsever ones look tempting. Apparently they're quiet decent and they only cost a bit more than StealthGuards.
So where is the solution that they show in the video? Is the solution just water? I checked out the FAQS on the Site but didn't find anything. My package just came in an envelope with the protectors and my invoice. Just curious if anyone knows how to apply them without the "solution" they say to use on their "Installation Instructions".
Thanks
Got mine in the mail yesterday. I need help applying it because I'm a spaz. Heh.
Dont know if anyone is looking for a Screen Protectors but Boxwave.com has their ClearTouch Crystal Screen protectors and those things are clear supposed to be 99% Clear. They're like 12$ maybe cheaper with Coupon code. hard to tell you have one on if applied right. Check em out
I got the ones from Verizon and don't like them. I may try these. Thx
I've always used Clarivue screen protectors but they don't have any for the Thunderbolt yet so I tried Steinheil and they are basically the same. They use static cling to adhere to the screen, so no liquids and any bubbles are easy to squeegee right out. I got the Ultra Clear and they are excellent. I agree the ones I bought from Verizon suck.
I bought the matte one from handhelditems 3-pack for $5.xx. Fits great and no bubbles at all. I prefer the matte finish/feel although it darkens the screen a little. It doesn't show fingerprints.
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nothing compares to what a zagg does for your phone.
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nothing compares to what a zagg does for your phone.
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Makes it feel like an orange?
Thanks for the head's up. I don't like the Verizon ones either...
MattCropley said:
nothing compares to what a zagg does for your phone.
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Makes it feel like an orange?
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You beat me to it! Excellent zinger. LOL.
I used Invisible shield on an iPhone, and got used to it, but not sure I'll go back to that brand if I ever go back to using protectors.
I haven't used screen protectors for the last couple of years. No scratches on any of my devices over the years except for my original iPhone EDGE which got a nice ugly scratch right in the middle of the screen despite kid glove treatement. That made me put screens on my newer iPhones up to and including the 3G, but the 3G, iPhone 4 and all of my Android phones (5 of them) have gone naked without any screen scratches, and I'm not particularly kind to them. I often put two phones in the same pocket along with some headphones unplugged; all I do to protect the screens is put the phones where the screens don't touch each other.
All that said, there's something about the "feel" of the Thunderbolt's screen that makes me feel like it needs some protection. It's got a plastic-ish kind of feel compared to my Nexus and Samsung phones. Not sure what brand to try. Steinhell seems to be the most praised around here.
By the way, this should probably have been posted in the Accessories section.
I just bought the Zagg. The self-healing and key scratch test appealed to my desire to protect one of the most expensive phones I have ever owned. Did I fall for gimmick?
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yeah caus it turns yellow!
I usto use em but got tired of paying the shipping for replacements. I use other brands that dont turn yellow. they are also overpriced.
<- Hates ZaG
Still rocking the VZW ones, never tried anything else
Im running naked on the TB.. Ive had experience with Steinheil Ultra Crystal on my Dinc. It held up well but as far as healing from any slight nicks it seemed very fragile. In fact after I believe the 3rd day it had a large gash right in the middle of the protector and I baby my phones excessively. I removed it after about 2 months and used the Dinc naked for about 5 months before getting the TB and it still looks brand new.. I have to agree thought that the TB screen does have a fragile feel to it and has an almost mosaic look to it under light whereas the Dinc looks very sharp. I may decide to go with the Steinheil Ultra Fine this time around for both my TB and Xoom
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You beat me to it! Excellent zinger. LOL.
I used Invisible shield on an iPhone, and got used to it, but not sure I'll go back to that brand if I ever go back to using protectors.
I haven't used screen protectors for the last couple of years. No scratches on any of my devices over the years except for my original iPhone EDGE which got a nice ugly scratch right in the middle of the screen despite kid glove treatement. That made me put screens on my newer iPhones up to and including the 3G, but the 3G, iPhone 4 and all of my Android phones (5 of them) have gone naked without any screen scratches, and I'm not particularly kind to them. I often put two phones in the same pocket along with some headphones unplugged; all I do to protect the screens is put the phones where the screens don't touch each other.
All that said, there's something about the "feel" of the Thunderbolt's screen that makes me feel like it needs some protection. It's got a plastic-ish kind of feel compared to my Nexus and Samsung phones. Not sure what brand to try. Steinhell seems to be the most praised around here.
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All that said, time for me to come back and eat up a serving of my own crow to warn others that these rotten phones need a 3rd party screen protector.
I originally put a Clear Coat shield on my Thunderbolt after about 2-3 weeks of owning it. I had it "professionally" installed at one of their kiosks. Butt ugly installation! Some kind of haze under the protector that just left streaks and were noticeable enough to be annoying, but not enough to bother going back.
Eventually I convinced myself that the phone didn't need one, and the screen does look MUCH better without it.
Anyways, you know where this is going...i took the Clear Coat off the phone (even posted a youtube video of it) about a month ago and damn it, I now have a nasty 1/8" scratch (enough to catch my fingernail on) up near the notification bar. Very disappointing.
I won't claim to have treated this phone with kid gloves, but it's never been dropped, has usually been holstered (the HTC one that protects the screen), and when riding naked with another phone in my pocket I always made sure it was glass to cloth, not the other phone.
Absolutely no clue how it scratched. Gorilla glass my foot.
Time to look for a new protector that isn't ugly and doesn't affect the screen's appearance; Steinhell still sounding like the way to go.
I use Gadget Guards. Cheaper than Invisible Shield / Steinhell but just as good, and no orange peel feel.
Steinhall Crystals. Only way to roll.
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Steinhall Crystals. Only way to roll.
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+1. Used them for years--don't even know they're on unless you look waaay too closely.
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+1. Used them for years--don't even know they're on unless you look waaay too closely.
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Yep. I was sold when I borrowed a friend, asked how he got away with not using a screen protector, and then was told there was one on. Had to look darn close.
Edit: borrowed a friend's phone
try ghost armor
I made a video on my youtube channel about the NOTE 9 - ZAGG Curve Elite, long story short i either got a defective unit or the quality of this products is not good at all, take a look for yourself.
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This protector absolutely BLOWS. Mine was so full of bubbles and while trying to work them out the glass cracked just using the included squeegee.
I've installed tons of protectors over the years and this one is a complete fail.
Zagg charged me $9.99 for a replacement and I don't think I'm even going to try it.
Yeh I think it's well worth paying the extra and getting something like a whitestone dome
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This protector absolutely BLOWS. Mine was so full of bubbles and while trying to work them out the glass cracked just using the included squeegee.
I've installed tons of protectors over the years and this one is a complete fail.
Zagg charged me $9.99 for a replacement and I don't think I'm even going to try it.
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Yeh I think it's well worth paying the extra and getting something like a whitestone dome
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This ZAGG Elite is more than the Whitestone Dome at $49.99
Yea, I'm just not too crazy about spreading glue all over the face of my phone.
Got this one, and i very happy.
cereal86 said:
Got this one, and i very happy.
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Which one? The curve elite or?
cereal86 said:
Got this one, and i very happy.
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If you going to get an "Edge Sticker" mind as well just get the G-Pel.
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If you going to get an "Edge Sticker" mind as well just get the G-Pel.
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In the end I got one of them whitestone copies on ebay with the glue, went on perfect and only cost me like £7
Every time i see someone put one of these on i cry.
Not defecting its from an improper install. You can not squeegee a zagg elite that hard because
-Adhesive is thick and super sticky. Air does not come out of it. Light heat helps but expect 15-20 min of working bubbles out by hand. Seriously. Light and smooth.
-Air bubbles with that thick of adhesive makes a high pressure point on the glass. Do this with any glass protector out there they all crack.
Install on this is horrible. I did one and outside of 20 min worth of getting out some bubbles it went on just fine. Second one if i had a bubble that was not coming out i used some really strong tape. Lifted the protector up with that then slowly let it down. That helped. Last one i used that with some light heat and it went on ok. Still a pain.
Now for the fun parts.
First one i had was defective. Protector had a bubble in the top right corner that would not come out. Measured the adhesive layer and it was 50um thicker in that corner. Defective unit and the store knew about that got a new one and it went on perfect.
Horrible design. One thing about Zagg is they have great products...But after its made they give it to someone there and they are in charger of gimping it. There job is to figure out how to make it slight worse. On the Elite they said well the normal one as the edge adhesive and that sucks so this has full so how can we made it suck just as much..I got it. Lets add some black borders that make the display just a hair smaller...And then we will make it so out of that black we get a little light leakage when its in a dark area. Seriously every Zagg product has one these where someone should of been fired. I mean whitestone did the same thing. They cut every corner they could and did not go out of there way to make the product worse like Zagg. They just used cheap stuff and try to tell people its the most amazing thing ever.
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This ZAGG Elite is more than the Whitestone Dome at $49.99
Yea, I'm just not too crazy about spreading glue all over the face of my phone.
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i was like that spreading glue all over my 1000 pound Note 9 but dam it's worth it, it’s only a small drop of glue inside the bottle. The screen clarity touch sensitivity is amazing it’s well worth the 19 bucks i paid for it..
just make sure you put tons of masking or sell tape on your Note 9 before proceeding and make sure you cure it with uv light, and please take your time.
it just turns into soft rubbery glue, witch can be picked away but don’t mess around with the edges of the glass screen protector. As that will allow for dust to get in! But once on, you will never go back it's like there’s no protector I used a generic brand as it’s the exact same as Whitestone dome but you’re paying for the brand name Whitestone that’s why they are charging you 50+ bucks.
The 19 bucks one is the exact same as Whitestone dome I believe it is the same company that supply to Whitestone dome! See ebay link https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/T-Max-Li...h=item21473e6d52:g:RccAAOSwZ~tbkQZx:rk:1:pf:0
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i was like that spreading glue all over my 1000 pound Note 9 but dam it's worth it, it’s only a small drop of glue inside the bottle. The screen clarity touch sensitivity is amazing it’s well worth the 19 bucks i paid for it..
just make sure you put tons of masking or sell tape on your Note 9 before proceeding and make sure you cure it with uv light, and please take your time.
it just turns into soft rubbery glue, witch can be picked away but don’t mess around with the edges of the glass screen protector. As that will allow for dust to get in! But once on, you will never go back it's like there’s no protector I used a generic brand as it’s the exact same as Whitestone dome but you’re paying for the brand name Whitestone that’s why they are charging you 50+ bucks.
The 19 bucks one is the exact same as Whitestone dome I believe it is the same company that supply to Whitestone dome! See ebay link https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/T-Max-Li...h=item21473e6d52:g:RccAAOSwZ~tbkQZx:rk:1:pf:0
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They use different glass. I know where whitestone sources there adhesive and even got a price for it lol. It's from batches that can be sold under the company's brand name because its defective. So they sell it heavily discounted to places that. I did a lot of testing with that stuff.
But you dont need to tape it. That stuff comes off very easy because it never fully cures. And even fully cured the phones display has an fluoropolymer coating on it "Kinda like Teflon" So that helps a ton for getting the stuff off. Also any on the phone can be easily removed even fully cured with some Methanol. The stuff we use can be removed with Methanol and that stuff is 1000X better then that junk in those kits. Just dont use something like Dynmax 431-T and expect it to come off that easy. It wont, But the stuff in those kits comes off very easy. I'll plug the ports and dip my phone in it and not thing anything of it. However i would not put a drop of 431-T on my display if i ever want it to come off. But using the cheap kits "Whitestone is a cheap kit that's a fact and i proven this" You will get some de lamination at some point if you do not baby your phone. Pressure on the edges can cause it and even rapid temperature changes. And that's because at the end of the day its all defective. The tube that comes with the kit if it was quality and not messed up is around $20 per 0.1oz or 2.95ml. Its expensive i deal with these types of adhesives every day. But they are buying stuff that had issues during the mixing process and being sold off as a lower quality for $0.50 per 4oz or 118.2ml. I found who is the manufacturer of it is and who the suppler who is distributing it out of China is.
Sad note. I had 7 tubes of some high end Optical Adhesive that expired on the 27th. Little over $21,000 in the trash. Still good still works but since it is past that expiration date we can no longer use it for production. That was a lot of Adhesive....But even more money. We also scrap gold epoxy lol. But that stuff goes out to have the gold reclaimed from it.
But that price is what the Whitestone should cost. I mean for the adhesive they use its still a bit much but they gotta make money so its fair. I would pick that kit over the dome any day.
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Every time i see someone put one of these on i cry.
Not defecting its from an improper install. You can not squeegee a zagg elite that hard because
-Adhesive is thick and super sticky. Air does not come out of it. Light heat helps but expect 15-20 min of working bubbles out by hand. Seriously. Light and smooth.
-Air bubbles with that thick of adhesive makes a high pressure point on the glass. Do this with any glass protector out there they all crack.
Install on this is horrible. I did one and outside of 20 min worth of getting out some bubbles it went on just fine. Second one if i had a bubble that was not coming out i used some really strong tape. Lifted the protector up with that then slowly let it down. That helped. Last one i used that with some light heat and it went on ok. Still a pain.
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So much of this.
It was a PITA to install but my install came out flawlessly. Though yeah, you have to take your time, be careful not to put too much pressure on the glass itself when installing. I found it best to relift the glass to expose the bubble in question, then smooth it out towards the edges with a felt wrapped squeegee...gently. Lifting the edges was the magic I used, much like installing a skin / car wrap, relieve the tension and squeegee smooth. Cracking glass on installation has always been a thing since the iPhone 4 days. If you put too much pressure in one location, pop. This is not a proper review video imo, user error does not constitute a bad review.
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They use different glass. I know where whitestone sources there adhesive and even got a price for it lol. It's from batches that can be sold under the company's brand name because its defective. So they sell it heavily discounted to places that. I did a lot of testing with that stuff.
But you dont need to tape it. That stuff comes off very easy because it never fully cures. And even fully cured the phones display has an fluoropolymer coating on it "Kinda like Teflon" So that helps a ton for getting the stuff off. Also any on the phone can be easily removed even fully cured with some Methanol. The stuff we use can be removed with Methanol and that stuff is 1000X better then that junk in those kits. Just dont use something like Dynmax 431-T and expect it to come off that easy. It wont, But the stuff in those kits comes off very easy. I'll plug the ports and dip my phone in it and not thing anything of it. However i would not put a drop of 431-T on my display if i ever want it to come off. But using the cheap kits "Whitestone is a cheap kit that's a fact and i proven this" You will get some de lamination at some point if you do not baby your phone. Pressure on the edges can cause it and even rapid temperature changes. And that's because at the end of the day its all defective. The tube that comes with the kit if it was quality and not messed up is around $20 per 0.1oz or 2.95ml. Its expensive i deal with these types of adhesives every day. But they are buying stuff that had issues during the mixing process and being sold off as a lower quality for $0.50 per 4oz or 118.2ml. I found who is the manufacturer of it is and who the suppler who is distributing it out of China is.
Sad note. I had 7 tubes of some high end Optical Adhesive that expired on the 27th. Little over $21,000 in the trash. Still good still works but since it is past that expiration date we can no longer use it for production. That was a lot of Adhesive....But even more money. We also scrap gold epoxy lol. But that stuff goes out to have the gold reclaimed from it.
But that price is what the Whitestone should cost. I mean for the adhesive they use its still a bit much but they gotta make money so its fair. I would pick that kit over the dome any day.
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Do you have a link where i can purchase the high end Optical Adhesive ? That you would use on your smartphone ? And thanks for the in-depth info respect!
This product is awful. I got this put on at Best Buy 10 days ago and it is already cracked.
I have no idea what caused the break. No drop, no bang, no bump.
Zagg Lifetime warranty = $10 everytime you use it = basura
Tomorrow, I will drive 48 miles to San Jose Zagg and see if they will put on the Zagg film protector instead. Wish me luck.
johninsf said:
This product is awful. I got this put on at Best Buy 10 days ago and it is already cracked.
I have no idea what caused the break. No drop, no bang, no bump.
Zagg Lifetime warranty = $10 everytime you use it = basura
Tomorrow, I will drive 48 miles to San Jose Zagg and see if they will put on the Zagg film protector instead. Wish me luck.
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Was the Best Buy install perfect with no bubbles or any problems? Maybe Zagg can get the Elite on perfect?
Slightly off topic. Would you know if cleaning the screen with alcohol wipes ( isopropyl) destroys the oleophobic coating or not ? I'm assuming it may after a given amount of times.
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They use different glass. I know where whitestone sources there adhesive and even got a price for it lol. It's from batches that can be sold under the company's brand name because its defective. So they sell it heavily discounted to places that. I did a lot of testing with that stuff.
But you dont need to tape it. That stuff comes off very easy because it never fully cures. And even fully cured the phones display has an fluoropolymer coating on it "Kinda like Teflon" So that helps a ton for getting the stuff off. Also any on the phone can be easily removed even fully cured with some Methanol. The stuff we use can be removed with Methanol and that stuff is 1000X better then that junk in those kits. Just dont use something like Dynmax 431-T and expect it to come off that easy. It wont, But the stuff in those kits comes off very easy. I'll plug the ports and dip my phone in it and not thing anything of it. However i would not put a drop of 431-T on my display if i ever want it to come off. But using the cheap kits "Whitestone is a cheap kit that's a fact and i proven this" You will get some de lamination at some point if you do not baby your phone. Pressure on the edges can cause it and even rapid temperature changes. And that's because at the end of the day its all defective. The tube that comes with the kit if it was quality and not messed up is around $20 per 0.1oz or 2.95ml. Its expensive i deal with these types of adhesives every day. But they are buying stuff that had issues during the mixing process and being sold off as a lower quality for $0.50 per 4oz or 118.2ml. I found who is the manufacturer of it is and who the suppler who is distributing it out of China is.
Sad note. I had 7 tubes of some high end Optical Adhesive that expired on the 27th. Little over $21,000 in the trash. Still good still works but since it is past that expiration date we can no longer use it for production. That was a lot of Adhesive....But even more money. We also scrap gold epoxy lol. But that stuff goes out to have the gold reclaimed from it.
But that price is what the Whitestone should cost. I mean for the adhesive they use its still a bit much but they gotta make money so its fair. I would pick that kit over the dome any day.
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I have this one.
https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/bl10NpiD
It can where it down over time but no more then useing your phone. I refresh mine every other month with one of the $12 kits from Walmart. Each vial I get 2 uses out of. I just reseal the plastic vial after. So $12 gives you 4 uses.
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Was the Best Buy install perfect with no bubbles or any problems? Maybe Zagg can get the Elite on perfect?
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Yes. Best buy did a great job. No bubbles at all. The guy had to put it on twice. The first had dust. The next, he spent 15 min. removing dust with the tape.
Get the RhinoShield 9H Tempered Glass Screen Protector. For me its really the perfect protector FINALLY. Just take your time with the install and watch the video.
Hi guys, I'm sure you've seen quite a few pictures of those accessories, so I thought I'd post here a few images from very close to some details so you can have a good idea of the finish, etc.
Also a small comparison with an official case (nylon one). I've ordered a skin for it, but it was on preorder and just started shipping today.
Sorry for the lint on some pictures, it does catch it ^^
As for my opinion (one more of those), well the case does feel real good in hand, the phone feels really safe in there. The buttons are real good (miles better than Rhinoshield bumper). Only thing is that the fingerprint scanner is deep and in a small window, so must get a little used to the feeling of really accurately put the finger in there. And is it grippy ? Is fine! a bit better than the official case but not by super much.
Prism is also good, easy to install. Biggest critic is how sharp the edges are (you can see on the pictures). If you don't use a case, you'll feel them and I'd be afraid to lift it by mistake, not sure how securely it sticks. The feeling is like glass, I was using the phone naked previously and no problem with that. Also, it does not affect the screen, I think ; some peops say it makes the screen cloudy, but I do not notice.
Worth the price ? Hmm those things are a rip off no matter what. But they are both good quality products, and the glass screen protector without a black border is a real step up ^^.
There you go!
Thanks for sharing! Would you recommend dropping $$$ on this combo?
silent_freak said:
Thanks for sharing! Would you recommend dropping $$$ on this combo?
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Well, all in all, it is near 60 USD.
The case is good I think, feels good and will protect the phone that's for sure, so if you don't have anything like that, it is a good buy. I also have an official OP cover and the main difference is that the Dbrand case has raised edges.
The glass, while it is good, is not as ground breaking as I imagined (Dbrand's marketing team is good ^^). The plus is that it feels like glass and does not have a black border, is as fingerprints resistant as the bare glass or the official screen protector. The bad is that the glass as you can see on the pictures is really only on the screen and has sharp corners, so you feel it when doing gestures, unless you use a case (because then your finger does not slide from the farther edge of the phone, if you see what I mean).
So out of the two, I would say the actually real good product is the case.
The case looks too bulky to me. I prefer the slimmer ones like the official protective sandstone or the karbon bumper, which are really well made. But I guess it depends on the environment you're working in (etc) which affects the danger your phoneis in, in which case, if it's a place you can easily damage it, this type of case can save you good money on repairs. The prism looks really durable from what I've seen online and I believe you get 2 in the box if I'm not mistaken, so if that's true, that's a big plus over rhinoshield's overpriced 1x black bordered piece of crap that covers at least 1mm of screen on each side, forcing you to just take it off minutes after installation and breaking it in anger.
Anyway, thanks for giving us a look at dbrand's new products. Was really looking forward to seeing someone talk about that.
dragos281993 said:
The case looks too bulky to me. I prefer the slimmer ones like the [...] Was really looking forward to seeing someone talk about that.
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I agree as well, it does add quite a bit of bulk.
I have all in all 3 cases. The simple one from OP (carbon one), their thicker nylon one and this one from dbrand. I don't really need a lot of protection (scratches protection is good enough) so it's mostly to change the look. I go naked as well with just a skin.
The result is that with that dbrand case you do feel very confident that the phone is safe.
Yes you do get two prism in the box, so that's actually quite a sweet deal because those are sturdy and nice to the touch really like glass without the border.
I have not been able to try with the simple case from OP, it's still in my boxes after moving house, but do not underestimate how annoying the edges of the prism are. They really really get in the way.
I think it's important to stress this because for example people were downplaying the terrible buttons of the Rhinoshield bumper for op5 and I got it and it was in actuality very bad.
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I agree as well, it does add quite a bit of bulk.
I have all in all 3 cases. The simple one from OP (carbon one), their thicker nylon one and this one from dbrand. I don't really need a lot of protection (scratches protection is good enough) so it's mostly to change the look. I go naked as well with just a skin.
The result is that with that dbrand case you do feel very confident that the phone is safe.
Yes you do get two prism in the box, so that's actually quite a sweet deal because those are sturdy and nice to the touch really like glass without the border.
I have not been able to try with the simple case from OP, it's still in my boxes after moving house, but do not underestimate how annoying the edges of the prism are. They really really get in the way.
I think it's important to stress this because for example people were downplaying the terrible buttons of the Rhinoshield bumper for op5 and I got it and it was in actuality very bad.
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I dropped my OP6 from approximately 2.5meters from the locomotive's door and the phone miraculously survived with the karbon case having one nick in the top right side corner and surprisingly that disappeared after a few days. Very impressive quality. I was also very lucky, I guess, considering the height the phone fell from. THEN I got the bumper case from Rhinoshield along with the garbage black bordered glass. I broke the glass in half after basically donating money to them because that glass was not worth the price, but that was that. I put their bumper on my phone and left it there for a few days. ****ty buttons, poor quality material and slippery too, like a hard plastic you find in those kitchen accessories, but whatever, I liked the alert slider one. Then one day I got in my car and the phone fell from my pocket on concrete (or asphalt) and because it happened right at the edge of the road, one hard little rock managed to touch the edge of the screen at impact and cracked the screen on the middle right side with the crack starting from the bottom and ending in a "C" shape 2 or 3 centimeters above. So it's still ok but the start of the crack can be felt at touch so that's a bummer.
And in the end I could've given the money to the old lady beggar at the corner of the street instead of giving it to Rhinoshield for 2 absolutely rubbish products they made such a big fuss about.
Never again I'll buy from them. Dbrand's products seem a bit different though especially that prism. I might get one and put it on the screen to protect it from getting other cracks if I accidentally drop it, cause the crack is pretty small to make me replace the screen. I don't think it's worth it.
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I dropped my OP6 from approximately [...] . I might get one and put it on the screen to protect it from getting other cracks if I accidentally drop it, cause the crack is pretty small to make me replace the screen. I don't think it's worth it.
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Yeah, as usual those things are very often quite a leap of faith. We want to believe that the more expensive it is the better it will be but the truth is that it's probably the same or close to the same with a different packaging :angel:
But need a screen protector at least to maintain the resell value of the devices.
I'll say again, prism is a good one but not perfect (like none of them is).
Can you comment on the alert slider functionality with the case on? I can make it out slightly on one of the pictures and it looks like you can use it with ease?
I'm currently using a Poetic case, I need a solid case with my work conditions. The only issue is the damn alert slider is rendered unusable without a pen or something similar handy.
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Can you comment on the alert slider functionality with the case on? I can make it out slightly on one of the pictures and it looks like you can use it with ease?
I'm currently using a Poetic case, I need a solid case with my work conditions. The only issue is the damn alert slider is rendered unusable without a pen or something similar handy.
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Hey,
The slider is quite easy to use yes.
You got to get a bit used to it cause its quite nestled in there so you have to make a little effort at first to put the finger the right way.
Same as with the fingerprint reader, a little bit of time to get used to it, because it's deeper so you can't approach it from whatever direction like you would naked or with a different case. It's still easy to use.
All in all out of their two products, I recommand the case with no problem. If you look for safety then for sure go for it.
Will make a few more pics to show you.
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Hey,
The slider is quite easy to use yes.
You got to get a bit used to it cause its quite nestled in the so you have to make a little effort at first to put the finger the right way.
Same as with the fingerprint reader, a little bit of time to get used to it, because it's deeper so you can't approach it from whatever direction like you would naked or with a different case. It's still easy to use.
All in all out if their two products, I recommand the case with no problem. If you look for safety then for sure go for it.
Will make a few more pics to show you.
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Thank you very much for your time!
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Thank you very much for your time!
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Sure, no problem.
So here are a few more. The last one is to show how the phone screen does not touch a flat surface when it is put face down. It's blurry but you'll get the idea.
Also some lint, not fighting that anymore