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Wireless charging????

I'm trying to convince myself why I would buy a wireless charger... I just don't see the reasoning because there is still a wire got G to the charging pad that the phone has to sit on... So I guess it just saves me the small hassle of having to plug and unplug my phone but is that worth $50... So my question is why did u or why are u planning on buying one... Am I missing something?
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Because it's cool
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Lol I was hoping for just a little more...
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Because its the most convenient thing ever....
I dislike the "official" n5 wireless charger, Instead I have the samsung S4 wireless charger, its a tray a littler larger than the n5 you just set it on.... anytime I'm at my desk I just set it on the charger. It might not seem like much, buts its well well worth it if you have an extra 50 bucks.

cables2590 said:
Lol I was hoping for just a little more...
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No... That's it... Try it and you'll want one
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Ben36 said:
No... That's it... Try it and you'll want one
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I might try it just to feel cool lol...
starnostar said:
Because its the most convenient thing ever....
I dislike the "official" n5 wireless charger, Instead I have the samsung S4 wireless charger, its a tray a littler larger than the n5 you just set it on.... anytime I'm at my desk I just set it on the charger. It might not seem like much, buts its well well worth it if you have an extra 50 bucks.
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See I would want one that's big enough to charge my phone and my nexus 7... It would be sitting on my nightstand since I don't have a desk job but I don't know I might try one anyways... Do u know of one that's big enough for the both?
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cables2590 said:
I'm trying to convince myself why I would buy a wireless charger... I just don't see the reasoning because there is still a wire got G to the charging pad that the phone has to sit on... So I guess it just saves me the small hassle of having to plug and unplug my phone but is that worth $50... So my question is why did u or why are u planning on buying one... Am I missing something?
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For me the reason is practical (the reason why I am planning). I use my phone as an alarm clock so my phone must be plugged in all night on charge to ensure that it goes off and the phone doesn't die.
My partner is often in bed when I go to bed so the room is dark and must remain so. Plugging the USB cable in is quite awkward in the dark and quite easy to get the wrong way round and sometimes I find it just isn't inserted properly. For me, dropping it on a wireless charging unit will make it much easier in these situations.

I just bought one without reason and i love it. You can use it with no light easy. Grab and go (it happens me a lot of time at work that i have to run somewhere and with cable I had some accidents :S)

rootSU said:
For me the reason is practical (the reason why I am planning). I use my phone as an alarm clock so my phone must be plugged in all night on charge to ensure that it goes off and the phone doesn't die.
My partner is often in bed when I go to bed so the room is dark and must remain so. Plugging the USB cable in is quite awkward in the dark and quite easy to get the wrong way round and sometimes I find it just isn't inserted properly. For me, dropping it on a wireless charging unit will make it much easier in these situations.
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same reasoning for me. my wife liked it so much she wanted one too.

Its just cool and easy take the plunge you won't regret it
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Lerway Wireless Qi Power Charger Pad for Lumia920 HTC 8X S4 S3 Note II (Black) by Shenzhen Lerway Technology Co.,Ltd. http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00E9MUNWU/ref=cm_sw_r_udp_awd_3yNQsb12TEZNY
Picked this up for 20 bucks has a light to tell you if it's charging or not. It not super bright so at night on the nightstand I don't see it unless I really look. The size is perfect for our phones. It is a nice charger.
Once you go wireless you will not want to plug in anymore. I hate having to charge at work. I drive a truck all day and having a cord is a pita...
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starnostar said:
Because its the most convenient thing ever....
I dislike the "official" n5 wireless charger, Instead I have the samsung S4 wireless charger, its a tray a littler larger than the n5 you just set it on.... anytime I'm at my desk I just set it on the charger. It might not seem like much, buts its well well worth it if you have an extra 50 bucks.
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I have a wireless charger for my WII that holds both remotes don't know if that would work.

I will bump this 2-week old thread and say I was skeptical about buying a wireless charger for my Nexus 5. I received the official Nexus charger as a Christmas gift and it's very nice. Now if it's worth $50, only you can decide.
As others have said, it's nice to not have to fidget with a micro USB cable and connector in the dark. I find the USB jack on the N5 to be trickier than any other phone I've owned for some reason. I'm always fumbling with the connector for several seconds when I plug it in. This isn't a problem with the wireless charger.
There's also the added benefit that there is no longer a loose micro USB cable dangling between my bed and night stand. The nexus charger has a nice grip on the bottom so it doesn't move on my night stand.
TL;DR: I like that I got one as a gift, but I probably wouldn't pay $50 of my own money for it.

I just posted this in the Accessories Forum, but I'll put it here to. Seems relevant enough. If you don't need/care about using a big name brand, you won't have to spend anywhere near $50.
This is the one I'm currently using. Just a generic Qi charger off ebay. Has the same 5V 1A output as pretty much all other Qi chargers.
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I also just saw that it's even cheaper now than when I ordered it before. just ordered 2 more.
It's currently $11.42 with free shipping. (Choose Black Charging Pad or White Charging Pad from the drop down list).
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Qi-Wireless-Charger-for-Samsung-Galaxy-S3-i9300-S4-i9500-Charging-Pad-Receiver-/121176056602?pt=US_Cell_Phone_PDA_Chargers&var=&hash=item1c36a7e31a
I also just ordered this one for my desk.
Pretty cheap as well. $14.83 with free shipping.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Qi-Wireless-Charger-Charge-Pad-A-for-Nexus4-5-HTC-8X-Lumia920-820-Note2-3-S3-4-/271329239542?pt=US_Cell_Phone_PDA_Chargers&hash=item3f2c7ba1f6
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So if you just look around, you can easily find generic ones that work perfectly well for a very reasonable price.

I would get one that puts out more then 1A preferably 2A(it can do that right?)
EDIT: I want a quick charge because it's wireless. That means I need it to quickly charge when its on there because it ain't charging when I pick it up obviously.
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Wireless Charging uses more power to charge your phone, so if your an energy conscious eco saver, then be aware that wireless chargers are not that efficient at getting the charge to your phone.
I am sure XDA did a review on the Nexus 5 Charger (which also works for the Nexus 7 (2013)).
If you watch that video, it seems a bit flimsy to get the phone on a sweet spot to get it to charge, I am not sure if it is because he rushed it, and didn't leave it a second before fiddling to move it to a new spot. But it didn't look good for $50.
If the official charger was around $20, then yes, but considering you can plug your phone in via USB and STILL USE IT.
Where as with wireless, its on its pad, and you either have to pick the pad up with the phone, or just take the phone off charge, to ready that notification etc.
My view, it may be cool and neat to just place it down and charge, but its neither practical or efficient to use.

Just an update as my last post was to "justify" my intention to get a wireless charger, I now have a Nokia one (chosen specifically from research).
Got to say, its great. Although it still takes 2 hands in the dark, cold reality that is bedtime in my flat (one to assess the base orientation and the other to situate), it's much easier than grabbing a cable and plugging it in. I can't damage the port, no fiddling around in the dark and shining the screen on the cable to see which way up it goes ... just goes in...
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Dragn4rce said:
I would get one that puts out more then 1A preferably 2A(it can do that right?)
EDIT: I want a quick charge because it's wireless. That means I need it to quickly charge when its on there because it ain't charging when I pick it up obviously.
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I have yet to find a Qi charger pad that can output above 1A max to a device. That includes the official Nexus 5 wireless charger, GMYLE, Tylt Vu, Samsung etc. That's regardless of price ranges.
The official Nexus 5 charger for example takes 1.8A from the wall adapter to the charger, then the charger plate outputs the same 1A as everything else.
Factor in ~70% or so efficiency, and Qi chargers will generally max out charging the Nexus 5 at around 700 - 750mA.
I used CurrentWidget to compare the stock Nexus 5 wired charger and my generic ebay Qi charger using various connections.
This is what I got for max sustained charge:
I used the Stock USB cable for all of the variations.
Stock 1.2A LG wall adapter: 1053mA
2A USB wall adapter: 1053mA
Built in USB input on power bar: 1053mA
USB 3.0 port (desktop computer): 446mA (surprised it was so low for a USB 3.0 charge port)
USB 2.0 port (desktop computer): 334mA
Generic Qi charger (2A input/1A output)/Built in USB input on power bar: 751mA
Generic Qi charger/Stock LG adapter: 655mA (corrected, sorry typo)
Generic Qi charger/2A USB adapter: 751mA
Generic Qi charger/USB 3.0 port: 696mA (interesting compared to directly plugging into USB 3.0)
Generic Qi charger/USB 2.0 port: 502mA (low, but again higher than direct cable)
So looking at all of these, as well as looking at the stock LG charger (as well as a higher output 2A I had around), I couldn't get any higher than 1053mA charge rate regardless. I'm sure that's due to some built in settings in the Nexus 5.
What was more surprising (unless I screwed something up) was the crap charge rate using direct USB cable connection into a USB 3.0 charging port. It was only a little bit of an improvement over USB 2.0. This was somewhat negated using the Qi charger into the same desktop USB ports (which surprised me further) but still wasn't as efficient as directly into a power outlet.
So, if there ever is a Qi charger that outputs at 2A, given (from my anecdotal test anyway) a direct cable using a 2A adapter gave the same 1053mA max charge rate, I think the most you can expect is getting a little closer to the stock plug. I don't think wireless charging will ever be faster (or even equivalent) than wired given the efficiency loss, even if it was higher output. (My guess anyway) I think the 1A Qi chargers out right now are giving roughly what you can expect for Nexus 5 max wireless charging. It might even be limited like the wired charging seems to be.
I think the more important thing is, not to use the USB ports on a computer, even if it's a USB 3.0 charge port. Using the Qi charger to the computer it was still less than max the Qi was capable of. I've ordered 3 more 2A adapters to use with the Qi charger I have, plus the 3 additional Qi chargers I've ordered just to make sure I'm getting the most out of it.
So if you can find a cheap Qi charger (like the ones I posted earlier) you might as well go for it. As long as you check that the output is 1A, they essentially (charging wise) perform the same as the chargers that cost $20 - $50+ more.
If anyone can do any other tests with their Qi chargers to confirm or negate my findings, that would be great.

Qi Wireless Charging Kit

I was looking at this wireless charging kit for my Galaxy S4 I337 and I wanted to check here before wasting any money. Is this a legit product that works well or something I should avoid? Is there anything better if this is garbage? Thanks all!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Qi-Wireless...S_Cell_Phone_PDA_Chargers&hash=item2ecf1d5a17

The receiver looks like it should fit. Whether or not it abides by the Qi standard I wouldn't dare guess about that. It has no company markings, just the Qi logo. But that wouldn't affect the phone itself just if the pad/receiver were compatible with other pads/receivers. Lastly I'm not going to bet it really can do 1000mha but for $19 I'd give it a shot if I hadn't already bought a set a while back.

mbnocx said:
I was looking at this wireless charging kit for my Galaxy S4 I337 and I wanted to check here before wasting any money. Is this a legit product that works well or something I should avoid? Is there anything better if this is garbage? Thanks all!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Qi-Wireless...S_Cell_Phone_PDA_Chargers&hash=item2ecf1d5a17
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That one is kind of old school.
Look for two things:
Chip located in the gap left where you insert the sd card...results in better back fit.
NFC included on the insert---not "works with NFC", acutally has an NFC loop and the other two connector pads for NFC
I can't find the one I bought, but the Nillkin one looks similar to mine.

Can anyone post a link to the product that they use that works really well? There are tons out there and I just want to make sure I don't pick one that is known to be junk.
Aside from the wireless receivers that fit in the existing back cover, I have thought about getting this official back cover and then just a generic charging pad. If I won't be able to use a case with either, I may prefer the extra bulk this back cover will cause instead of something that fits in the existing back cover. If what you have works with cases, let me know what type of case you use too.
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Galax...ywords=Galaxy+S4+wireless+charging+back+cover
Thanks!!!

mbnocx said:
Can anyone post a link to the product that they use that works really well?
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This charger and receiver work well for me, I picked these based on user reviews:
I can't post links, so look on Amazon for : PowerBot® PB1020 Qi Enabled Wireless Charger , and the : Zitrades(TM) 2013 Latest Qi Standard wireless Charger receiver pad
The pad is thin and fits within the stock back cover.

Cool, thanks!

I bought these:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CU7FO5C/
http://www.att.com/shop/wireless/ac...arging-plate-sku6290260.html#fbid=AVBWGlRN5tV
they work exceptionally well, charges through thick cases (I use a Trident Aegis) and though it can be a bit finicky on placement, it works really well and charges at about 675mha. Not the fastest but still good.

they work exceptionally well, charges through thick cases (I use a Trident Aegis) and though it can be a bit finicky on placement, it works really well and charges at about 675mha. Not the fastest but still good.[/QUOTE]
I have bought more then 3 qi charger for my s4 few months ago (price range from $15 to $35), and I finally gave up on these charger.
The charging speed is incredible slow and sometime makes the phone hot. If you put a QI charger in your office, in a busy day and your battery level is low, if you count on the qi charger, then it'll be defiantly a night mare. I'll prefer to wait for the next generation wireless charging technology to come available.

niking3 said:
I have bought more then 3 qi charger for my s4 few months ago (price range from $15 to $35), and I finally gave up on these charger.
The charging speed is incredible slow and sometime makes the phone hot. If you put a QI charger in your office, in a busy day and your battery level is low, if you count on the qi charger, then it'll be defiantly a night mare. I'll prefer to wait for the next generation wireless charging technology to come available.
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very interesting. I've never had an issue with heat, neither with the charging pad nor the receiver in the phone even with the thick case on. I average with mysetup between 16 to 23% charge/hr it's no 40 or 50 I get with a proper wire/adapter setup, but it's more than enough at work and totally enough while sleeping. What was your receiver rated at? the one I linked to is rated at 1000mha (whether or not it charges that fast, I can't comment, my pad is only rated at 750).
What most people don't like about these types of chargers is you can't charge while you use it, phone has to be laying on the charger and all, or they have the screen to be set constantly on or whatever which will slow down your charging. Not saying these were your issues, but I'd recommend running a few tests, it sounds like you've tried different pads, have you bought another receiver for the phone? install an app to help monitor the battery charge and usage (I find battery monitor widget fairly accurate, it'll tell you your charge your charge percentage/hr). just my thoughts for you.

I ended up purchasing the following two items. I mainly need this for my work desk as I often run out of battery well before the end of a work day. Having this on my desk will help because I can charge more frequently and keep a higher battery meter. When I'm home I don't mind using a power cable as the way I'm setup works well there. Anyway, we'll see how this all works and I appreciate all the replies.
Receiver: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CU7FO5C/ref=pe_385040_30332190_TE_M3T1_ST1_dp_1
Charging Pad: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00IXKVBAW/ref=pe_385040_30332190_TE_M3T1_ST1_dp_2

Theoriginalgiga said:
very interesting. I've never had an issue with heat, neither with the charging pad nor the receiver in the phone even with the thick case on. I average with mysetup between 16 to 23% charge/hr it's no 40 or 50 I get with a proper wire/adapter setup, but it's more than enough at work and totally enough while sleeping. What was your receiver rated at? the one I linked to is rated at 1000mha (whether or not it charges that fast, I can't comment, my pad is only rated at 750).
What most people don't like about these types of chargers is you can't charge while you use it, phone has to be laying on the charger and all, or they have the screen to be set constantly on or whatever which will slow down your charging. Not saying these were your issues, but I'd recommend running a few tests, it sounds like you've tried different pads, have you bought another receiver for the phone? install an app to help monitor the battery charge and usage (I find battery monitor widget fairly accurate, it'll tell you your charge your charge percentage/hr). just my thoughts for you.
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I don't remember the rated mha, because I haven't used it for long time. Maybe they're the very first generation products with lots of problem.
But just like you said, you have to laying down the phone while it's charging, this is the biggest problem for me. In a working desk, you can still using your phone while the charging cable is connected, and the charging speed is incredibly faster then the QI charger, if you use the QI pad, you need to put it back to the pad every time, if you're busy, you don't have time to put it back and make sure they're properly aligned, that's why I eventually give up on the product.
But I just thinking, if some day in the future, the whole working desk can be a QI charger support your tablet and your phone's power, that will be a great invention for our everyday life.

niking3 said:
I don't remember the rated mha, because I haven't used it for long time. Maybe they're the very first generation products with lots of problem.
But just like you said, you have to laying down the phone while it's charging, this is the biggest problem for me. In a working desk, you can still using your phone while the charging cable is connected, and the charging speed is incredibly faster then the QI charger, if you use the QI pad, you need to put it back to the pad every time, if you're busy, you don't have time to put it back and make sure they're properly aligned, that's why I eventually give up on the product.
But I just thinking, if some day in the future, the whole working desk can be a QI charger support your tablet and your phone's power, that will be a great invention for our everyday life.
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The starting Gen of inductive charging had a lot of problems, mainly weak circuits in detecting the phone requiring precise lining up. Things are a bit better now especially if you run a naked or think phone case.
Sounds like a brilliant DIY to build an entire desk Qi charging pad. From what I recall the Qi is just a fancy chipset that makes it compatible so someone could theoretically make a desk laced with charging coils if someone had the time, energy and money to do so
Personally I like Qi for home evenings and work. I don't play with my phone at work or whilst I sleep. I also don't keep games on my phone, eats up too much power. During the day and general use I depend on my battery and my cable/plug while on the go. Inductive charging isn't perfect, and frankly will never be in my opinion, but great for those too lazy to plug in their phone (like my gf) or those who get up and down and don't want the hassle of constantly unplugging and plugging their phone in every time. I see them in the same boat as smart watches. They have their niches none of which a normal person really NEEDS, but are fun to haves.

Theoriginalgiga said:
The starting Gen of inductive charging had a lot of problems, mainly weak circuits in detecting the phone requiring precise lining up. Things are a bit better now especially if you run a naked or think phone case.
Sounds like a brilliant DIY to build an entire desk Qi charging pad. From what I recall the Qi is just a fancy chipset that makes it compatible so someone could theoretically make a desk laced with charging coils if someone had the time, energy and money to do so
Personally I like Qi for home evenings and work. I don't play with my phone at work or whilst I sleep. I also don't keep games on my phone, eats up too much power. During the day and general use I depend on my battery and my cable/plug while on the go. Inductive charging isn't perfect, and frankly will never be in my opinion, but great for those too lazy to plug in their phone (like my gf) or those who get up and down and don't want the hassle of constantly unplugging and plugging their phone in every time. I see them in the same boat as smart watches. They have their niches none of which a normal person really NEEDS, but are fun to haves.
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Actually the first generation qi receiver and transmitter was one of the best, Im still using the first generation transmitter from yijieneng, detect all my receiver upto now, and I still have a few first gen S3 receiver, they are built using the best chipset and coil, but because the price of the actual reciever cost more that the oem one itself or 4-5 times the prices of the current receivers on ebay, I don't put them up on ebay.
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mbnocx said:
Can anyone post a link to the product that they use that works really well? There are tons out there and I just want to make sure I don't pick one that is known to be junk.
Aside from the wireless receivers that fit in the existing back cover, I have thought about getting this official back cover and then just a generic charging pad. If I won't be able to use a case with either, I may prefer the extra bulk this back cover will cause instead of something that fits in the existing back cover. If what you have works with cases, let me know what type of case you use too.
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Galax...ywords=Galaxy+S4+wireless+charging+back+cover
Thanks!!!
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I have this one, works with the S5 as well, but no link available.
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Found on eBay - LEGIT OEM USB Type-C Charger LG Nexus 5X (using on my 6P!)

USB Type-C is great, until you realize that you probably want more than one charger, then you realize that you'll be spending $25 and up. Or so I thought.
I don't like this Google USB Type-C charger which has a non-removable cable. I just really hate the idea of having to toss the power brick once the cable has a short in it.
I searched eBay for a Lumia 950/950 XL charger, a Nokia N1 charger, and the OEM 6P charger, hoping to save a few bucks, but I had no hits. People are clinging to their USB Type-C chargers evidently.
So, recalling that the 5X is also Type-C, I did a search for an OEM 5X charger and I stumbled onto this eBay listing. :laugh::good:
For $17.99, how could I not grab one? It's the only one that didn't have me envisioning my apartment and cat going up in flames. So, I had no way to tell if it was indeed real, because I've never seen a 5X in person. When I opened the package, the cable just felt so cheap, the sheathing is thin and kinda satin-like. The best way I could think to verify if it's legit was Youtube unboxing vids, so I watched this video on Youtube and the dude holds up the cable and charger to the camera, like really close, and it matches what I have exactly! Yes, down to the little holes in the plastic on the USB connectors.
I have no doubt that it's real. It also does rapid charging (5V with 3 AMP output + "Charging Rapidly" is displayed on the phone)
I just thought I'd share this little gem with you guys. =) Oh, I ordered on the 4th and it arrived today, on the 11th, and had tracking too. Just thought I'd toss that out there!

If I remember right, cables that aren't spec'ed properly will still display "Charging Rapidly". Have you checked using Ampere?

tysj said:
If I remember right, cables that aren't spec'ed properly will still display "Charging Rapidly". Have you checked using Ampere?
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My PC is not equipped with a USB Type-C port to test with that app, but here's this: The OnePlus cable always caused my phone to display "Charging Rapidly" on the lock screen, but never provided a time until the charge would be complete. This 5X charger however displays "Charging rapidly (12 minutes until full)" once the phone has time to calculate it. Well, 12, 36, etc. :good:

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If I remember right, cables that aren't spec'ed properly will still display "Charging Rapidly". Have you checked using Ampere?
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I will try that app real quick.
EDIT: 1420mA max on my 6P stock charger and 1400mA max on the 5X charger. Given that my battery is 92% full, I think it's fair to say it's legit.

I had a Nexus 5X and that charger/packaging look identical to the one that's included in the box. Now, this doesn't mean it's legitimate, but it's a good sign.
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If I remember right, cables that aren't spec'ed properly will still display "Charging Rapidly". Have you checked using Ampere?
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Ampere isn't even remotely accurate

Here's a screenshot. Using the 5X charger and cable.
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You need to run ampere when the battery is less than 10% to really see what the charger can do. As the battery charges, the current is reduced. Therefore this 1.4A may still be ok. Try it at 10% and report back to see how close to 3000ma you get.

I was under the impression that Ampere results were skewed by the amount of current being used by the phone while the charging was taking place.
This is a good idea though, sourcing the chargers for other phones as USB Type-C becomes more prevalent. Personally, I think I can get by with 2.4A chargers/micro-usb adapters and use the OEM charger at home if I need a quick charge before I go out for an evening.

nhutpham said:
I was under the impression that Ampere results were skewed by the amount of current being used by the phone while the charging was taking place.
This is a good idea though, sourcing the chargers for other phones as USB Type-C becomes more prevalent. Personally, I think I can get by with 2.4A chargers/micro-usb adapters and use the OEM charger at home if I need a quick charge before I go out for an evening.
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It won't charge over 1.5A using an proper C adapter or A-C cable. A 2.4A charger would be pointless unless its just something you have laying around.
I also mentioned earlier that Ampere isn't accurate but there are no C-C multimeter's that I've seen so far

Well, the phone is giving an ETA to full charge, something it never did with the OnePlus cables. I think that, coupled with that packaging and likeness, says that these are legit. It's only $18, so if anyone would like to take testing any further, go for it. I'm convinced it's legit - Ampere gives the same readings with the stock charger, and even if the app isn't the greatest metric, that's a good sign. =)

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Well, the phone is giving an ETA to full charge, something it never did with the OnePlus cables. I think that, coupled with that packaging and likeness, says that these are legit. It's only $18, so if anyone would like to take testing any further, go for it. I'm convinced it's legit - Ampere gives the same readings with the stock charger, and even if the app isn't the greatest metric, that's a good sign. =)
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The one plus cables are dangerous to use and do not meet the USB specification. There's no way to really know if the charger is an OEM item unless you have a 5X charger to compare it to.

You bought a $500+ phone and you are worried about "saving" $8 by buying an unknown charger from eBay?
I just bought the cable from Google as if something were to happen with my phone as a result of the Google cable, it's going to be a lot easier to get a fix for the cable and/or the phone with Google than trying to tell Google I used a cable I thought was good that I bought from eBay.

radeon962 said:
You bought a $500+ phone and you are worried about "saving" $8 by buying an unknown charger from eBay?
I just bought the cable from Google as if something were to happen with my phone as a result of the Google cable, it's going to be a lot easier to get a fix for the cable and/or the phone with Google than trying to tell Google I used a cable I thought was good that I bought from eBay.
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As I said in the first post, I don't want a charger with a fixed cable - soon as the cable takes a crap, the whole thing is just garbage. I have never been a fan on fixed cable solutions. And what does it matter that I bought a $649 phone? No one should want to spend $40 on a charger with a removable cable from Google. If I wanted to drop that much money to charge my pricy device, I would have bought one of those new Macbooks.
The point of the post was just to give other people a heads up that I found a good deal on an OEM charger, not to argue with people about it or be called a tightwad. I can afford a $40 charger, but no, I won't buy one.

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As I said in the first post, I don't want a charger with a fixed cable - soon as the cable takes a crap, the whole thing is just garbage. I have never been a fan on fixed cable solutions. And what does it matter that I bought a $649 phone? No one should want to spend $40 on a charger with a removable cable from Google. If I wanted to drop that much money to charge my pricy device, I would have bought one of those new Macbooks.
The point of the post was just to give other people a heads up that I found a good deal on an OEM charger, not to argue with people about it or be called a tightwad. I can afford a $40 charger, but no, I won't buy one.
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How is the genuine 5x charger on the 6p? Does it rapid charge like the original 6p charger? thanks

jordy787 said:
How is the genuine 5x charger on the 6p? Does it rapid charge like the original 6p charger? thanks
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Yes I used to have a 5X along with my 6P and the OEM LG one does rapid change the 6P.

SONEic - USB Type-C (USB-C) Rapid Wall Charger & USB Type-C to Type-C Cable, 15 Watt/3.0 Amp (3A) for Nexus 5X/6P, Lumia 950/XL, LG G5 and All Other USB Type-C Devices - Black (Charger+Cable Included) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B017BVLLC6/ref=cm_sw_r_other_awd_yTOZwbPJ7WSKR

kozad said:
As I said in the first post, I don't want a charger with a fixed cable - soon as the cable takes a crap, the whole thing is just garbage. I have never been a fan on fixed cable solutions. And what does it matter that I bought a $649 phone? No one should want to spend $40 on a charger with a removable cable from Google. If I wanted to drop that much money to charge my pricy device, I would have bought one of those new Macbooks.
The point of the post was just to give other people a heads up that I found a good deal on an OEM charger, not to argue with people about it or be called a tightwad. I can afford a $40 charger, but no, I won't buy one.
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I wouldn't touch that eBay crap with a 10 foot pole. My phone is $600. I am not about to put it or any other piece of electronics in my house in danger because I wanted to skimp on chargers.
There are many charging blocks and Type C cables that are Benson verified and really cheap on Amazon. I'm not calling you a tightwad (although even then, spending ~$20 on Amazon would net you a proper charger that would for sure be Benson approved and non-captive, which is what you want). I think you're a fool to be blindly recommending Type C chargers without actually knowing if they are legitimate or not. Fake devices are notorious on eBay for looking visually identical to their real counterparts. Seriously? Comparing to what you saw in a YouTube video?
You may be fine taking the risk. But don't sit there getting all self-righteous because people are rightly skeptical of some no name eBay listing, especially when your only proof is an Ampere screenshot that tells us nothing and your own interpretation of the "Charging rapidly" text on your lockscreen.

LiquidSolstice said:
I wouldn't touch that eBay crap with a 10 foot pole. My phone is $600. I am not about to put it or any other piece of electronics in my house in danger because I wanted to skimp on chargers.
There are many charging blocks and Type C cables that are Benson verified and really cheap on Amazon. I'm not calling you a tightwad (although even then, spending ~$20 on Amazon would net you a proper charger that would for sure be Benson approved and non-captive, which is what you want). I think you're a fool to be blindly recommending Type C chargers without actually knowing if they are legitimate or not. Fake devices are notorious on eBay for looking visually identical to their real counterparts. Seriously? Comparing to what you saw in a YouTube video?
You may be fine taking the risk. But don't sit there getting all self-righteous because people are rightly skeptical of some no name eBay listing, especially when your only proof is an Ampere screenshot that tells us nothing and your own interpretation of the "Charging rapidly" text on your lockscreen.
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There is nothing wrong with looking for a deal.
That's why your phone was $600 while other might have got it for 550 with no tax and free shipping.

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SONEic - USB Type-C (USB-C) Rapid Wall Charger & USB Type-C to Type-C Cable, 15 Watt/3.0 Amp (3A) for Nexus 5X/6P, Lumia 950/XL, LG G5 and All Other USB Type-C Devices - Black (Charger+Cable Included) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B017BVLLC6/ref=cm_sw_r_other_awd_yTOZwbPJ7WSKR
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Yeah, I bought one of these and the charger and cable looks just like OE from Google except it is labeled "SONEic" on top of the charger. The cable looks, feels, and in conjuntion with the charger functions exactly as the Google charger that came in the box. Worth it to pick up a couple of these if your obsessed with chargers like I am.

farfromovin said:
Yeah, I bought one of these and the charger and cable looks just like OE from Google except it is labeled "SONEic" on top of the charger. The cable looks, feels, and in conjuntion with the charger functions exactly as the Google charger that came in the box. Worth it to pick up a couple of these if your obsessed with chargers like I am.
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gonna have to snag one or two:good:

I want a QI compatible back cover. Rumours, news, releases?

I really like the back cover idea, even though I'm not sure I will be buying a battery back, at least not yet as they're waaay too expensive.
However, one enormous oversight from Lenovo/Moto is that the stock back cover doesn't have a QI receiver built in.
It's thick enough that a slim QI coil would fit comfortably, and not add any bulk from the "style mod"
It appears that the phone itself has the electronics required built in, so the thickness should not be affected.
(Based on the fact that there's a system service preinstalled about wireless charging)
I haven't been able to find anything on ebay or google, has anyone heard or seen something interesting?

Still no rumors but it's a bit early... anyway I'm pretty sure that a QI compatible cover and a slimmer battery pack (1000 mAh?) will be some of the first third parts MODs developed...

I'm assuming you are NOT looking for the Incipio battery with Qi Charger built in? I got one of those at best buy and love it, but there's no denying that it adds a bit of heft to the phone. Personally, I don't mind this at all and prefer a slightly thicker phone.

Well, for one that battery doesn't appear to get released in Sweden. The only back pack available is the non wireless at 120 something bucks. It's priced a little extreme imo..
(All things wireless charging are really hard to come by locally. Strange really since IKEA actually makes qi compatible furniture these days..)
And it really is a little on the thick side, although the fact that I can drop the backpack directly on a charger and still have my phone is genius.
A backpack with at most 1mm extra bulk from a style cover and some miniscule 1Ah battery built in would be cool though.
Should be possible, the ipad air has some really thin cells inside, I've used butchered ipad air batteries for several projects.
As a side note, the Chinese super premium brand Xiaomi is about to release a 2-way QC3.0 Type C power bank.
That could be a good middle ground for me.

How much bulk added? Like the JBL speaker bulk?
Can you post a picture what it looks like on your phone?

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How much bulk added? Like the JBL speaker bulk?
Can you post a picture what it looks like on your phone?
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The Incipio battery is wireless charging ready, just check the model. I don't have any camera but you can see the three mods and compare them.
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The Incipio battery is wireless charging ready, just check the model. I don't have any camera but you can see the three mods and compare them.
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Yes, but please note that model in picture is without wireless charge option (MT-381-WHT).
Models with wireless charge are MT-382-WHT (white) and MT-382-BLK (black), even if they are identical from exterior ....
These days they are very hard to find and reserved by Motorola to few markets only...

After spending 25 minutes on the phone to Lenovo sales (rather than risk ordering the wrong one online) and having it double checked twice I'm waiting to return what they sent - just a moto mod charge pack not a wireless one as ordered.
After another three calls it turns out they are not in the UK yet.... unless you know differently??

stewarta13wsb said:
After spending 25 minutes on the phone to Lenovo sales (rather than risk ordering the wrong one online) and having it double checked twice I'm waiting to return what they sent - just a moto mod charge pack not a wireless one as ordered.
After another three calls it turns out they are not in the UK yet.... unless you know differently??
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Ugh... I sooo hate that. I mean, I know mistake happen, but when you do as much research as you possible can and double check with the company alerting them to the potential for a mixup and they still send you the wrong thing!

RedRamage said:
Ugh... I sooo hate that. I mean, I know mistake happen, but when you do as much research as you possible can and double check with the company alerting them to the potential for a mixup and they still send you the wrong thing!
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Versions listed on amazon in europe have a different code from the above, but are all without wireless, so they are about MT-381-xxx with different coding...

RedRamage said:
Ugh... I sooo hate that. I mean, I know mistake happen, but when you do as much research as you possible can and double check with the company alerting them to the potential for a mixup and they still send you the wrong thing!
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And that was the 28th October... here we are the 12th November and they still haven't even authorised collection of the wrong item - never mind a credit And it's not for the want of trying... emails, repeated phone calls, general 'abuse' on Facebook
I hate Lenovo big style, never again!

I know this is a little off-topic but I have the Tumi wireless charging battery mod and for the life of my I can't seem to find a way to consistently charge the pack wirelessly. It would always recognize that it's on a wireless charger and start charging for a few seconds then disconnect then reconnect then disconnect...so on and so forth. Does anyone have the same issue or do I have a faulty unit?
Edit: Old Hardware: ChoeTech fast wireless charger (10w max output) + ChoeTech adaptive fast charger wall brick + Generic USB A to Micro USB (to power the wireless charger)
Originally I had my ChoeTech Fast wireless charger hooked up as shown above. The issue wasn't the Tumi, the wireless charger or the power brick. It was the generic cable I used to plug the brick into the wireless charging pad. I switched to a higher quality cable that I knew would work with the max output of the adaptive fast charging wall brick and all my issues went away! Hope that helps!
New Hardware: ChoeTech fast wireless charger (10w max output) + ChoeTech adaptive fast charger wall brick + High quality adaptive fast charging micro usb cable from Anker.

Mouahmong said:
I know this is a little off-topic but I have the Tumi wireless charging battery mod and for the life of my I can't seem to find a way to consistently charge the pack wirelessly. It would always recognize that it's on a wireless charger and start charging for a few seconds then disconnect then reconnect then disconnect...so on and so forth. Does anyone have the same issue or do I have a faulty unit?
Edit: Old Hardware: ChoeTech fast wireless charger (10w max output) + ChoeTech adaptive fast charger wall brick + Generic USB A to Micro USB (to power the wireless charger)
Originally I had my ChoeTech Fast wireless charger hooked up as shown above. The issue wasn't the Tumi, the wireless charger or the power brick. It was the generic cable I used to plug the brick into the wireless charging pad. I switched to a higher quality cable that I knew would work with the max output of the adaptive fast charging wall brick and all my issues went away! Hope that helps!
New Hardware: ChoeTech fast wireless charger (10w max output) + ChoeTech adaptive fast charger wall brick + High quality adaptive fast charging micro usb cable from Anker.
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Hi, I got a question, can the battery bod be charged (on the wireless charger) if the phone is not connected to it?
That would be very handy.
Thanks! :good:

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Quick Charge 4 - Hardware questions and availability

Since there is still such a limited amount of phones with QC4+, I wanted to see if anyone had information about the accessory availability and compatibility of products like cables, car adaptors, etc.
After searching around, I can't find a car adaptor or portable charger (power bank) anywhere that is actually approved as QC4+.
Qualcomm's website shows that my QC3 stuff from my other phones/tablet is backward compatible, however, it does not clearly state that "compatible" will be charging at QC4+ speeds. My assumption is no since QC3 had max power around 18W and QC4+ is about 27W.
Can anyone share a little more information in simple terms so I can understand a bit more?
Will my current QC3 cables work without issue?
What is the minimum USB spec required on PC to work?
Will any USB-PD charging products/accessories work on the U12+?
Where (and when) can I find accessories like car adaptors, banks, cables, etc.
Thank you for your help!

There is a HAMA wall and a car charger which is approved and listed on the HAMA homepage. Bit it hasn't been released yet, as I found out. So no equipment yet. That's why HTC still has a QC 3.0 charger in box I guess.
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Why in the world would it ship with a qc3 charger/cable? I am just dumbfounded by this one.

MNoisy said:
Why in the world would it ship with a qc3 charger/cable? I am just dumbfounded by this one.
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Most likely because they already have them in stock? It's already faster than most people upgrade from, at least my U12+ got up to almost full in less than hour.
Here's the QC 4.0 charger I'm considering ordering (want to check first if it's indeed certified before I order it): https://www.amazon.com/Charger-Tenke.../dp/B0789F6FNG

I am guessing that my qc3 cables won't work with qc4 at all then since they have a max of 20v. Frustrating since I just bought a set of cables!
Based on my limited research, it looks like the new PD standard will work with QC4. Androidpit says
"Quick Charge 4 is compatible with Power Delivery, which raises the question of what Quick Charge 4 brings to the table. Power Delivery is already proficient in technologies for negotiating current and voltage. Qualcomm’s Quick Charge 4 can intervene to take control with regard to the device’s so-called thermal budget; in other words: It makes sure that the smartphone does not get too hot when charging. The fact that Quick Charge and PD can co-exist is due to the fact that Power Delivery is solely a protocol for negotiating voltage and current. Quick Charge 4 has simply learned to speak this language, but does the same thing as Quick Charge 3 with a few upgrades. Thus, QC4 is exclusive to Type-C."
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If anyone eventually gets there phone and can try a PD3 charger or cables they have around, let us know if it works!

QC4.0 brings faster charging/lower charge time to the table, specifically for Qualcomm SoCs.
PD3.0 only provides more information, as PD3.0 and PD2.0 are exactly the same as far as voltage/cable/etc go:
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QC4.0 brings faster charging/lower charge time to the table, specifically for Qualcomm SoCs.
PD3.0 only provides more information, as PD3.0 and PD2.0 are exactly the same as far as voltage/cable/etc go:
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So PD will work over any USB 3 cable or do they have specific data channels proprietary to the USB cable?

MNoisy said:
I am guessing that my qc3 cables won't work with qc4 at all then since they have a max of 20v. Frustrating since I just bought a set of cables!
Based on my limited research, it looks like the new PD standard will work with QC4. Androidpit says
If anyone eventually gets there phone and can try a PD3 charger or cables they have around, let us know if it works!
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I have USB-PD at both work and home, so you can bet I'll be giving it a go. I'd much rather use USB-PD chargers that I already have than have to buy specialized chargers and cables for QC3/4.

OGhoul said:
I have USB-PD at both work and home, so you can bet I'll be giving it a go. I'd much rather use USB-PD chargers that I already have than have to buy specialized chargers and cables for QC3/4.
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Awesome, thank you! Are you in on the preorder to test early?

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Awesome, thank you! Are you in on the preorder to test early?
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Unfortunately no. My ship date is in July, however my order already says Boxes Shippment.

Curious, did the Razer Phone not ship with a Quick Charge 4 adapter? I remember there was controversy over this. I would think that would be an easy solution for finding an AC adapter.

HTC U12 Plus and QC4+...how???!!!
I have the HTC U12 Plus which is supposed to support QC4+. I purchased the Razer wall charger because it is Qualcomm certified and has QC4+ stamped right on the bottom. I didn't know that I needed a USB c to c cable and according to Qualcomm's website it states that any USB c to c cable will work. I purchased the Amazon Basic c to c cable ($3.99) and the Belkin F2CU030bt1M-BLK and I can't notice a difference in speed using either cable vs using the QC3 charger that came in the box. I tried running a 20%-100% test and came up with a nearly identical time. Does anyone have any information on what I might be doing wrong or how I can get this sang QC4+to work?????? Thank you very much.

The cable has to be capable of the high power output as well, otherwise it'll throttle to the mentioned QC 3.0 speeds. May e that's why the potential cable provided by Razer is that expensive as well.
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My apologies for not returning to this thread sooner. I've been using my Anker USB-PD charger with one of their massively thick, USB-C to USB-C PD-compliant cable, and it is been fantastic. Charging times are quite fast.
USB C Wall Charger, Anker Premium 60W 5-Port Desktop Charger with One 30W Power Delivery Port for Apple MacBook, Nexus 5X/6P, and 4 PowerIQ Ports for iPhone, iPad, and More
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Anker USB C
So with the aforementioned Anker USB C cable you believe that you're achieving QC4+ speeds? If that's the case, I will purchase it immediately. It annoys me that it clearly states on Qualcomm's website that any USB C to C will work to achieve 4+ charging speeds. Thank you very much for the information!
Here is a list of certified 4+ wall chargers. I can only find the Razer anywhere.
• Ever Win car charger (VP4plus)*
• Ever Win wall charger (TC4Plus)*
• Portway Wall Charger (PTL-27WPDQ4)*
• Razer Phone Power Adapter*
* Supports Quick Charge 4+

B!RD said:
So with the aforementioned Anker USB C cable you believe that you're achieving QC4+ speeds? If that's the case, I will purchase it immediately. It annoys me that it clearly states on Qualcomm's website that any USB C to C will work to achieve 4+ charging speeds. Thank you very much for the information!
Here is a list of certified 4+ wall chargers. I can only find the Razer anywhere.
• Ever Win car charger (VP4plus)*
• Ever Win wall charger (TC4Plus)*
• Portway Wall Charger (PTL-27WPDQ4)*
• Razer Phone Power Adapter*
* Supports Quick Charge 4+
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I honestly have no way of comparing USB-PD speeds to QC4.0. I don't have a QC4.0 charger and at this point, it doesn't make a lot of sense to get one. Other than the handful of Anker QC3.0 chargers that I have to power their Power Wave wireless charging pads, all of my devices (iPhone, iPad, U12+, my gf's Essential, Apple TV remotes...) all use or can use USB-PD.
I can say though that I topped up from 75% to 100% in well under half an hour (while I was showering and getting ready for work this morning).
So the Razer charger is QC4.0 certified? I don't want to sound brand discriminatory (even if I actually am), but the Razer charger would be the only one I'd consider buying, especially given my environment (Apple devices have been very temperamental with sketchy chargers and cables), because I've used Razer products and am familiar with the brand and build quality.

Yes Indeed
Yes it is QC4+ certified on Qualcomm's website. I don't know what to do...keep the Razer or try this TENKER that just arrived.

HTC/Ever Win/Razer
I just literally spent 2 hours on the phone with HTC who confirmed via voice and via online chat that YES the U12+ supports QC4+ however they do not make a charger as we are all well aware of. I the called The Ever Win company who is listed on Qualcomm's website as a certified manufacturer of a QC4+ wall and car charger and the response that I received is that they're not available on the market yet and are undergoing testing. Timetable until public purchase...none. To be quite honest, I am sick and tired of researching this I just want the dang thang to work and charge at QC4+ speeds. I even tried a 100 watt capable USB c to c using the Razer wall charger and nothing...no difference...so I'm stumped at this point because QC4+ runs on 27 watts. Oh, and I also tried that Tenker 60w brick of a charger and nothing. One final note is that I did ask HTC if they have some type of software installed on the U12+ that somehow blocks the QC4+ from working and was emphatically told no...of course I was also told not to use 3rd party accessories..lol. So I don't know what else to do at this point but to give up and wait for more products to hit the market that have the QC4+ stamp right on it like the Razer does...I'm just baffled as to why it won't work. ? I'm also pretty frigging annoyed/pissed at this point.

B!RD said:
I just literally spent 2 hours on the phone with HTC who confirmed via voice and via online chat that YES the U12+ supports QC4+ however they do not make a charger as we are all well aware of. I the called The Ever Win company who is listed on Qualcomm's website as a certified manufacturer of a QC4+ wall and car charger and the response that I received is that they're not available on the market yet and are undergoing testing. Timetable until public purchase...none. To be quite honest, I am sick and tired of researching this I just want the dang thang to work and charge at QC4+ speeds. I even tried a 100 watt capable USB c to c using the Razer wall charger and nothing...no difference...so I'm stumped at this point because QC4+ runs on 27 watts. Oh, and I also tried that Tenker 60w brick of a charger and nothing. One final note is that I did ask HTC if they have some type of software installed on the U12+ that somehow blocks the QC4+ from working and was emphatically told no...of course I was also told not to use 3rd party accessories..lol. So I don't know what else to do at this point but to give up and wait for more products to hit the market that have the QC4+ stamp right on it like the Razer does...I'm just baffled as to why it won't work. I'm also pretty frigging annoyed/pissed at this point.
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What are the QC4+ speeds supposed to be?
I've looked at Razor's page and it doesn't show anything in the description on the charger.
Amazon has it for sale, and it does have a description on there. This is what it in the description for the speed:
"Our 24 Watt charger with Qualcomm quick charge 4.0+ is designed for Ultra fast charging. Go from zero to fifty percent in just 40 minutes."
Is that inline for what speeds you are getting on the U12+?

B!RD said:
I just literally spent 2 hours on the phone with HTC who confirmed via voice and via online chat that YES the U12+ supports QC4+ however they do not make a charger as we are all well aware of. I the called The Ever Win company who is listed on Qualcomm's website as a certified manufacturer of a QC4+ wall and car charger and the response that I received is that they're not available on the market yet and are undergoing testing. Timetable until public purchase...none. To be quite honest, I am sick and tired of researching this I just want the dang thang to work and charge at QC4+ speeds. I even tried a 100 watt capable USB c to c using the Razer wall charger and nothing...no difference...so I'm stumped at this point because QC4+ runs on 27 watts. Oh, and I also tried that Tenker 60w brick of a charger and nothing. One final note is that I did ask HTC if they have some type of software installed on the U12+ that somehow blocks the QC4+ from working and was emphatically told no...of course I was also told not to use 3rd party accessories..lol. So I don't know what else to do at this point but to give up and wait for more products to hit the market that have the QC4+ stamp right on it like the Razer does...I'm just baffled as to why it won't work. I'm also pretty frigging annoyed/pissed at this point.
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This may sound silly, so forgive me. But have you tried the cable that Razer shipped as well?
Otherwise my only advice is to go the USB-PD route.