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FastTech QI Charger Review for Nexus 4

I thought I would share with you my experience of the QI charger I recently purchased from FastTech.
After seeing some reviews of these wireless chargers I thought I would take the plunge & get one myself.
Website.
Firstly, the FastTech website is pretty well laid out, its fairy easy to navigate & find what you want. What I do like about the site is they tend to include lots of images of the item you are buying - many sites usually include a generic picture that's at a poor resolution, but FastTech really go all out to include as much information as possible. This includes data sheets, specifications, size, weight etc etc. The attention to detail is top notch & nothing of importance gets overlooked.
Choosing the charger.
FastTech list quite a few QI chargers. These range from big twin versions for dual charging, specific chargers for certain devices life the Nexus 4, Galaxy Note 2/S3 down to the cheaper generic ones.
I decided to choose this one:
http://www.fasttech.com/products/11...owered-qi-inductive-wireless-charger-for-car-
I would say that this is generic one but for $40/£30 (At time of writing) its not bad value compared to other QI Wireless chargers on the market.
One of the main reasons I chose this version is that it comes with a Micro USB connector rather than a small round power connector like most other versions do. This means I can use any Micro USB cable I own. It also states that charger works via a car charger or a USB port; most other QI chargers only work using a wall socket which provides enough voltage/amp for the device to operate. At the time of purchasing I was highly dubious that the charger would work correctly using an USB port on a PC but I crossed my fingers that it would.
Ordering & Delivery
Ordering is pretty much as expected & only take a few minutes to register. Entering in the details is easy & the website provided clear & easy to follow instructions, so if you are used to ordering online there's nothing to worry about. I paid via PayPal - quick & easy.
Delivery is free so that's a bonus & once your order is placed & sent, a tracking reference is included along with a nice photograph of your item with your address on to show you that its been posted - nice touch!
Now comes the 'negative' part..... delivery! Its takes a long time, approximately 21 days to be precise. That's from Hong Kong to the UK. I've ordered stuff from Hong Kong in the past & its usually taken less than 10 days, buts that's usually small stuff. What didn't help was the parcel tacking - it wasn't very informative. The only time I got an up date was when the parcel arrived in the UK & the tracking reported that it had arrived in the country. However, it still took 4 days from then to get to my house.
I'm not really saying this was an issue for me but I was getting a little nervous whether I would turn up!! So, If anyone orders anything from FastTech please be aware that you might have to wait over 3 weeks for your item.
Packaging & Contents:
The charger arrived in a standard jiffy bag & the box containing the charger was inside. The box was wrapped up with some additional bubble wrap to help prevent it from any bumps or knocks it may suffer from its 6000 mile (give or take!) journey from Hong Kong to the UK. Luckily it had seemed to have done its job as everything seemed ok & the box was fairly undamaged apart from a slight crease in one of the corners.
The QI charger comes in nice thick white card presentation box very similar to the boxes that mobiles are shipped in. Its design is simple & minimalistic with just a few logos & a photo on it to indicate what's inside.
Once in the box you are greeted with the QI Charger. Under the charger & its cardboard support sleeve is the Micro USB cable & tucked away in the corner is the mains wall charger in a box - this is the European version & doesn't fit a UK wall socket. I don't know why, but I convinced myself the a Euro 2 Pin to UK 3 Pin adapter was included but there isn't. The FastTechs website clearly states that the charger only ships with a EURO style plug, I have no idea why I thought that there was an adapter included.
QI Charger - A closer look.
The QI charger is made standard white plastic, nothing special. Its approximately the same size as a Galaxy Note 2, so if you have seen or held one of these then you will know how big it is. One thing that stands out about the charger is that its incredibly light, this along with the cheap looking white plastic, makes the device feel exceptionally cheap. Because it is so light it actually makes the unit feel hollow & its hard to be convinced that there is actually anything inside.
I also think the colour doesn't help. The white plastic picks up mucky marks quickly - in fact it was covered in dirty finger prints before I even touched it. In my opinion, I believe black plastic would have helped the overall look of the device.
The build quality is ok, again nothing special - screw-less design with two half's glued together. The underside has four small corner dimples moulded in the back plastic which the charger sits on when put on flat surface. Its a shame that these aren't little rubber feet to give the charger a more no slip effect when on a hard surface.
Usability.
As mentioned before, I could not check how the charger worked using the mains adapter because it only fitted a European wall socket. So, I tried it out on one of my PC USB ports. I used a USB2 socket because this is the common port that most PC/Laptops have. My PC has does have USB3 sockets but these can provide a different (better) current which may not represent everyone else's setup. Once plugged in the chargers green power light comes on. This light is constant & cannot be turned off unless you unplug the charger.
Unexpectedly, the charger worked really well using only a USB port. This was a real surprise as the wall charger has an output of 2A & a USB2 port only has an output of 500mA, I was expecting the phone not to charge properly because of the big difference in current. It also worked fine when plugged into my laptops USB port.
As you can see from the photos the phone charge 'zone' is quite forgiving & the phone can be placed on the charger without the need to position it accurately. I found that I could place my phone on the charger relatively care free. There was no need to readjust the position or find a millimeter perfect position for the charging that some other QI charges seem to have.
It has to be noted though that the QI charging coil in the Nexus 4 is offset towards the bottom of the phone - about 1/3 of the way up. The induction charging coil in the QI Charger is central, therefore the phones best position on the charger is so that the top of the phone is level with the edge of the charger where the USB cable is inserted. If I placed the phone centrally on the charger it would not charge.
I noticed that there is a very slight magnetic attraction between the phone & the charger when the induction coils are aligned. This is particularly usefully as it helps with the phone location to the charger (you can feel it 'grab') & also prevents the phone from moving/slipping if the charger is place on a slight slope.
When the phone is placed on the QI charger & connects, the charger emits a single beep & a blue light starts to flash in the corner of the device to indicate a successful pairing & charging has started. Also, the phone acknowledges that a connection to the charger has been made and produces a quiet tone to say its now charging.
Strangely, I found that the QI charger actually charged my phone more quickly that a standard USB cable that's connected to a PC/Laptop. It also charges the phone all the way up to 100% & keeps it there. Once the phone got to 100% I experienced no power loss over the space of about 45 minutes. However, this might be a concern as once at 100% the charger doesn't seem to switch off & the phone remained warm.
On the subject of heat, as with most QI chargers the phone got hot while being charged wirelessly. I monitored the temperature of the battery & it never got over 41C
My Nexus 4 has a DBrand skin on the back & it didn't seem to interfere with the charging process. I don't own a bumper or case so I couldn't test how well the charger would work if one of those were fitted to the phone.
For those of you who might want to use the charger at night, the green & blue lights are fairly bright & might be a tad annoying if you intend to use it in the bedroom.
Conclusion.
In a nut shell the QI Wireless Charger that I purchased from FastTech works really well & it actually exceeded my expectations when plugged in to a PC or Laptop.
The position of the phone on the charger is fairly forgiving & a full battery charge is accomplished even on USB. All in all I'm happy with how the charger works & has it has permanent place on my desk at work.
....... but........
However, taking a step back & looking at the whole QI Wireless charging method I feel like its all a bit redundant & not real necessary.
Currently, QI chargers are just too expensive in what they are. The Nexus 4 Orb sells for silly money & the cheap chargers still retailer for more than 10 wall chargers put together! At the end of the day it only charges the phone, and 'Only' is a word that needs emphasising; because if I use a USB cable to charge the phone I can still use the phone with the cable plugged in. Also if the cable is plugged into a PC/Laptop I can transfer files as well. The QI charger takes all these useful features away.
Also you are still tied to where the QI charger is plugged into so you don't gain any real world additional freedom from a charging cable. It kind of feels like a docking station without the bonus of being able to transfer files to the PC.
In a way I feel that QI chargers are sold like a cool iPhone feature - they look cool, people who see it go 'wow' & it makes your mates jealous. But at the end of the day its not really that different to the thing it replaces & may not even work any better!
OK, it looks like from the above statements that I actually hate QI wireless charging & that people shouldn't bother with them. That's not what I think at all & in fact believe that the charger is a cool gadget, I've been showing it off to nearly everyone that passes my desk at work. I've written this review to point out the Pros and Cons of buying & owning a QI Wireless charger & to show that it might not suit everybody's expectations. My only major criticism is the price. The charger I purchased does not look or feel like its worth £30 ($40). If the price drops below £10 ($15) then the price would genuinely reflect the product. I'm assuming that the price currently reflects the new QI charging technology, hopefully prices will start to drop in the upcoming months when (or if) QI charging becomes popular.
So to sum up, if you're in the market for a wireless charger for your Nexus 4 phone then I highly recommend this QI Charger from FastTech. However, consider it more of an cool impulse purchase rather than a must have, can't live without gadget.
Pros
Works as intended.
Fully supports PC USB charging
Charges to 100%
Positioning of phone on charger is quiet lenient
Free delivery & parcel tracking from FastTech
FastTech offer refunds if unhappy with item & replacements if device is faulty.
Show off to your mates
Cons
Feels cheap
Quite Expensive
Doesn't necessarily replace wired charging
Packaging only contains European wall charger
Delivery took longer than expected from FastTech
Get laughed at by mates for spending £30/$40
MARKS OUT OF 10
DESIGN: 7
FUNCTIONALITY: 9
FEATURES: 7
VALUE FOR MONEY: 4
OVERALL: 7
Hope you enjoyed the review. Please post comments below.
Review by Chris B

cmberry20 said:
However, taking a step back & looking at the whole QI Wireless charging method I feel like its all a bit redundant & not real necessary.
Currently, QI chargers are just too expensive in what they are. The Nexus 4 Orb sells for silly money & the cheap chargers still retailer for more than 10 wall chargers put together! At the end of the day it only charges the phone, and 'Only' is a word that needs emphasising; because if I use a USB cable to charge the phone I can still use the phone with the cable plugged in. Also if the cable is plugged into a PC/Laptop I can transfer files as well. The QI charger takes all these useful features away.
Also you are still tied to where the QI charger is plugged into so you don't gain any real world additional freedom from a charging cable. It kind of feels like a docking station without the bonus of being able to transfer files to the PC.
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i have one of these with euro plug (not usb). the comment above is exactly how i feel after couple of usage. not only it doesn't do data transfer, but usage too is inconvenient, due to (a) you can't pick up your phone, (b) touchscreen is much less responsive during charge. with that $40, i might as well bought a real dock and other accessories.

Just a quick update.
I can confirm that the charger stops charging the phone once 100% is reached. I think there's '100% with still a little more left to charge' & '100% Full'! I noticed that the charger would still carrying on charging for 5 minutes or so once 100% was reached, I think that it must be because the battery isnt quite fully charged. After that, the blue light switches of the phone is allowed to discharge. But as soon as the phone looses less than 1% the charger recharges it.
It basically trickle charges the phone to keep it at 100%. I certainly don't get the issue where the phone has lost 5 to 10% of its charge once 100% had reached.

Thank you for the honest and detailed review. I was considering this charger and looking for qi wireless chargers for the past few months but was never fully convinced about buying one because its not really as useful as it is just "cool". I thought it might be convenient to make a car dock out of because I wouldn't have worry about plugging and unplugging it. But I think for now I will just use a usb cable and maybe look at wireless chargers again once they're cheaper.

Thanks for the review OP. Like the person above me said, I too have considered getting one of those. The price it's at now is pretty tempting, but I don't think the Misses would appreciate me buying a $30 charger. I do think it would be an interesting thing to have and to mess around with but ahhhh I don't know. And speaking of USB 2.0... When do we think that phones will have USB 3.0?
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I bought one of these and it's great - except for the lights and beeping (I'd like to use it by my bed) - has anyone opened theirs up and successfully altered it?

thigger_tom said:
I bought one of these and it's great - except for the lights and beeping (I'd like to use it by my bed) - has anyone opened theirs up and successfully altered it?
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Well, I decided to have a go today. Opening it needed a sharp blade to help pry open the case (there are a /lot/ of plastic clips) but eventually ended up with everything accessible. Everything's soldered onto a single board with only the coil and USB connector separate. However, the buzzer can be opened up and the metal plate removed which silences it:
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There's a small flat hole in the side - put a small screwdriver in there, twist and the top will pop off. The round metal plate can then be picked out (I used blu-tack) before putting the top back on. I've kept the plate on the off-chance I ever want it to beep again.
A bit more blu-tack to cover each of the LEDs and I now have my ideal charger!

I'm pretty unhappy. I just unboxed mine, set my N4 on it and it's not working. I also bought a charging coil for my Note2. The N4 has the poetic Bumper on it and it seems that that small distance is too much for it to charge through. The Qi standard is 5mm to 40mm. This device doesn't seem to work at even 1 to 2 mm.
As a test I took a plastic SD card case I have that is 4mm thick and the charging coil from the note2 and with it, it won't work. but without it between it works fine.
Basically this thing is useless if you have a case.. I really thought the point of a wireless charger was that it would work through a case. LAME! I'll update if I learn anything more but as of this time, I'll probably be returning or selling mine...

joeavery2 said:
I'm pretty unhappy. I just unboxed mine, set my N4 on it and it's not working. I also bought a charging coil for my Note2. The N4 has the poetic Bumper on it and it seems that that small distance is too much for it to charge through. The Qi standard is 5mm to 40mm. This device doesn't seem to work at even 1 to 2 mm.
As a test I took a plastic SD card case I have that is 4mm thick and the charging coil from the note2 and with it, it won't work. but without it between it works fine.
Basically this thing is useless if you have a case.. I really thought the point of a wireless charger was that it would work through a case. LAME! I'll update if I learn anything more but as of this time, I'll probably be returning or selling mine...
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Might be a defective unit, or the coil isn't fully connected, or not enough juice from your USB. Is yours the same brand as OP's?

hmm, not sure if you have a faulty charge or if you have been unlucky with the build quality of your QI Charger.
I packed my phone up with some business cards & a foldered sheet of paper & it still happily charges up. I would say the gap it about 5mm to 6mm. (1/4" if you live in 'merica)
This is still being charged via USB 2 on a desktop PC.

thigger_tom said:
Well, I decided to have a go today. Opening it needed a sharp blade to help pry open the case(...).
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How did you manage to open it ? I tried to insert a very thin flat bladed screwdriver between the two parts of the device and slide it around it but nothing popped-up or anything, plus it slipped and I stabbed my thumb so I prefer not to use a knife...
I'm affraid I could break it by forcing the screwdriver inside.
I'd like to mute it because I work in an open space office. Also, this "beeep" is pretty annoying. The blue LED and the Nexus 4's LED are enough for me.
Thanks

Nekrozys said:
How did you manage to open it ? I tried to insert a very thin flat bladed screwdriver between the two parts of the device and slide it around it but nothing popped-up or anything, plus it slipped and I stabbed my thumb so I prefer not to use a knife...
I'm affraid I could break it by forcing the screwdriver inside.
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I used a sharp blade from a pocket knife. Inserted the edge of the blade along its length into the groove and used it to pop open the clips (there are loads). I think you could probably do it using one of the plastic pryer devices they use to open iPhone cases. I wouldn't recommend a screwdriver as there isn't enough surface area and the plastic is quite soft so you'll probably just make a load of marks in the side of the case.
You don't need to use the pointy end so there shouldn't be a risk of stabbing yourself doing it like that!

My thumb and I thank you.

(Super) cheap Qi charger $11.5/8,5€

Okay guys, I ran in to this . It's k51 Qi Charger from Dx.com and it's on sale. It costs only $11.5 (was $20) and for that price I decided to order it. There's also a black version available: http://deals.dx.com/team.php?id=4701
Okay I just received mine. It is very very light and feels kinda cheap (well duh, what can you expect for 8,5 euros? ). It looks pretty good, I'm not sure if I like the leds on it. They aren't too bright or anything but they just don't fit with the white theme. It also makes this little sound when it starts charging. This may be con for someone, but it doesn't bother me.
First thing i noticed that the batterly level didn't rise up even though phone was on the charger for a half and hour. I tried the cable with the original charger and the charging status (in *#*#info#*#* -thingy) kept flashing between USB, AC and Unplugged. So the cable is faulty. I tried the original cable and everything was fine.
The charging area (or the "sweet spot" as Zenety called it) is decent. I don't know if theres a difference between the white and black one, but in mine you don't have to put it precisely in the middle of the charger for it to work. The green charging light doesn't always light up but phone is still charging.
The charging works pretty good when without case and also with Headcase, but when using Ringke Hybrid you need to put the phone precisely on the "sweet spot" for it to work. With leatherpouch it didn't work at all. Surface is very slippery and your phone can move around quite easily. I'm gonna find out if there anything to do with that.
Can anyone recommend app that allows me to see charging current? I could compare it to original LG wallcharger?
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Please let us know how this goes, been looking at the wireless charging option!

Just bought one for me and one for my father. If this thing sucks, it's your fault, twice!
Jokes apart, thanks!

Forgive me, but I never quite got the point of using a wireless charger. Besides the novelty of not having to connect a cable, don't the disadvantages outweigh the benefits? I mean, for one, you can't pick up the device while it's charging. And it also charges slower than on an AC wall charger.

klvnhng said:
Forgive me, but I never quite got the point of using a wireless charger. Besides the novelty of not having to connect a cable, don't the disadvantages outweigh the benefits? I mean, for one, you can't pick up the device while it's charging. And it also charges slower than on an AC wall charger.
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I like the idea that the charging will stop when the battery gets full and so it's perfect to use at night. I don't know for sure, but I think that keeping the phone plugged do the AC wall charger isn't good for the battery's lifespan.

Ticiano said:
I like the idea that the charging will stop when the battery gets full and so it's perfect to use at night. I don't know for sure, but I think that keeping the phone plugged do the AC wall charger isn't good for the battery's lifespan.
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Wall charger will also stop charging when full (as the battery is li-po), but maintains a trickle charge overnight, which should have little or no effect on battery lifespan.

i had one like this, the magnet wasnt very strong, i could get it to connect but sometimes it would stop so i couldnt rely on it.
the light changed colour once connected.
it was a hassle trying to get it to charge, i thought i could just slap the phone on it and it would detect but i guess due to the large surface area the phone needs to be in the dead center,
you could also have the phone dead center and it wouldnt detect, i had to hover the phone half a centimeter around for it to detect and you can feel the magnetic pull, took me 1-3 seconds to trigger the charge
it was much simpler just charging via USB.
i would buy one again and open it and put it in a smaller housing like the size of the phone,maybe use a better magnet
a few people i know swear by these chargers but they have the official products,
the nexus4 will tickle charge once it reaches upto 90% to preserve the battery life.

Well I hope that this one won't have problems like above. It may have, maybe it will. I'll just have to wait and try it for myself. I dont think that charging with this one will be any slower since in the specs it says: "1. Input: 5V, 2A 2. Output: 5V, 1A" so if you use usb-charger that has 2A output it shouldn't be that much slower. If you use the original charger then it might take forever to fully charge?
The main reason I decide to buy this is the fact that I charge my phone every day. And sometimes I have to plug it out and back in few times a day because I need run some errands etc. Do you see where I'm going with this? The micro-usb port will take heck of alot "beating" daily and I've read so many stories (in general) about micro-usb being not as durable as it should be. So wireless charger will preserve my micro-usb port from over wearing and my phone will a long, happy, life

I have ordered one. Just for the main purpose of opening it and using the Qi charging pad in another housing. Got some cool idea's to experiment with!
EDIT: Oh yeah, and I bought the black one instead. Not that I need the actual housing, but if it doesn't work out like I want it to, i'd rather go for the same color as my nexus.

someone have tried this charger ? : http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Qi-Wirele...lePhonesCasesPouches&var=&hash=item19e9ef5b01

Has been sent today. Estimated delivery is 15 to 20 days so that will take a while. Will post photos if OP hasn't gotten it by then.
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I reviewed one that looks indentical to this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/accessories/fasttech-qi-charger-review-nexus-4-t2246340
I now own a Nexus 5 & it works even better than the Nexus 4.
Mind you, they are a lot cheaper now than they were last year!!

Received mine yesterday. The sweet spot is obviously very small. It came with a white cable, was hoping for a black one. But my n900 charger will be fine too
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Still waiting for mine. I was hoping to get it this week but we shall see. Thanks for the photos! I will add pictures of the white one once I receive it. Unless someone who already got their white version adds pics before I do.

Zenety said:
Received mine yesterday. The sweet spot is obviously very small. It came with a white cable, was hoping for a black one. But my n900 charger will be fine too
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does phone heat up while charging with this charger ?

RolF2 said:
does phone heat up while charging with this charger ?
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Haven't had it on for very long. About 2 hours, felt like normal warmth like charging with micro USB. It's REALLY smooth. The Nexus will really fall of very fast, I have to make sure it's on a flat surface. Also if you move the device a bit it will stop charging, when you move it back it won't start charging again.
You will have to lift the phone up, and put it down again. Kinda annoyed by that, but hey, what can you expect for 8 euro's :good:

Okay I just received mine. It is very very light and feels kinda cheap (well duh, what can you expect for 8,5 euros? ). It looks pretty good, I'm not sure if I like the leds on it. They aren't too bright or anything but they just don't fit with the white theme. It also makes this little sound when it starts charging. This may be con for someone, but it doesn't bother me.
The charging area (or the "sweet spot" as Zenety called it) is decent. I don't know if theres a difference between the white and black one, but in mine you don't have to put it precisely in the middle of the charger for it to work. The green charging light doesn't always light up but phone is still charging.
The charging works pretty good when without case and also with Headcase, but when using Ringke Hybrid you need to put the phone precisely on the "sweet spot" for it to work. With leatherpouch it didn't work at all. Surface is very slippery and your phone can move around quite easily. I'm gonna find out if there anything to do with that.
I can take pictures if you guys want? Can anyone recommend app that allows me to see charging current? I could compare it to original LG wallcharger?
E: Okay first thing i noticed that the batterly level didn't rise up even though phone was on the charger for a half and hour. I tried the cable with the original charger and the charging status (in *#*#info#*#* -thingy) kept flashing between USB, AC and Unplugged. So the cable is faulty. I have changed the cable now, lets see what happens. Will report back.
E2: I edited my first post and added some pics in there!

RolF2 said:
someone have tried this charger ? : http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Qi-Wirele...lePhonesCasesPouches&var=&hash=item19e9ef5b01
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Yes I have one, I like it. I took it apart and removed the little speaker that beeps when you put the phone on.. it charges at 650mA.. so better than USB and just a bit slower than high quality cables with a wall charger.. ( 800mA).. so now I use it at work, its super easy to charge the phone with a wireless charger when working in a cubicle... you pick it up and put it down without the hassle of cables connected to your phone..

Wireless Charging Car Mount

I'm coming from a Nexus 5 and had gotten pretty used to wireless charging. Had a mount in my car that supported Qi, and it had been at least a year since I messed with a USB cable.
Love my new Moto X and bought a coil that takes up the micro USB, but am having trouble finding a car mount big enough to support the larger MXPE. Any ideas?

lazyart said:
I'm coming from a Nexus 5 and had gotten pretty used to wireless charging. Had a mount in my car that supported Qi, and it had been at least a year since I messed with a USB cable.
Love my new Moto X and bought a coil that takes up the micro USB, but am having trouble finding a car mount big enough to support the larger MXPE. Any ideas?
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I used the tylt vu car mount.
http://www.tylt.com/car-products/vu-car-wireless-charger
Worked really well. Phone (LG g2) would get pretty warm wireless charging with screen on navigating. I'm curious about this coil that you're using...please post a link. Thanks
mxpe 6.0

This is the coil: http://www.ebay.com/itm/25203978870...49&var=550898634010&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
It's pretty generic, but you have to have a thin case for it to work. You also have to get the coil with the microUSB oriented the right direction or else it will cover the screen.
I use this case which I like, but the coil shows through covering the bottom of the Motorola logo which doesn't look too pretty.
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/71FpNve9GIL._SX425_.jpg
If I find a solution that works in the car I'll get a Seidio Surface, which would hide the coil completely, and is wireless charging friendly.

lazyart said:
This is the coil: http://www.ebay.com/itm/25203978870...49&var=550898634010&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
It's pretty generic, but you have to have a thin case for it to work. You also have to get the coil with the microUSB oriented the right direction or else it will cover the screen.
I use this case which I like, but the coil shows through covering the bottom of the Motorola logo which doesn't look too pretty.
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/71FpNve9GIL._SX425_.jpg
If I find a solution that works in the car I'll get a Seidio Surface, which would hide the coil completely, and is wireless charging friendly.
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Tylt typically has sales often so don't let the high price be a detraction. They make nice products. Sign up for the email so get the sales. The vu car mount would easily handle the mxpe.
Edit: sprung for a qi coil similar (rerrii on Amazon) to the one you have. Invested in a case too. I did notice that there are only a couple cases that cover the Moto M. Tudia slim arch and JOTO hybrid to name a couple.
mxpe 6.0

ffejy462 said:
Tylt typically has sales often so don't let the high price be a detraction. They make nice products. Sign up for the email so get the sales. The vu car mount would easily handle the mxpe.
Edit: sprung for a qi coil similar (rerrii on Amazon) to the one you have. Invested in a case too. I did notice that there are only a couple cases that cover the Moto M. Tudia slim arch and JOTO hybrid to name a couple.
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I like the Tylt, but I can't use it. I installed a USB charging port in my car (splicing the constant hot from the stereo). It charges much faster than the lighter port, which for some reason doesn't always work. So I was looking for something to straight to USB.
On a whim I ordered this charging pad which is .2 mm thick. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00EBQ8RSG/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Going to put it in the TaoTronics Universal mount. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00MXWFUQC/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Should be enough room there for both the pad and the MXPE. I'll use velcro tape on the mount and the pad to keep it in place (glue gun probably won't hold up in Florida sun). It arrives tomorrow, we'll see what happens.

I was also interested in wireless charging, so I got one of these universal charging pads for a few bucks. It plugs into the micro-usb port, and can be tucked into the case since it's very thin. Similar to this one:
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The good news is that it works, is very convenient, and it doesn't generate much heat. The bad news is that it's horribly slow. I tried two different charging pads to make sure it wasn't the pad, and used it on my in-car 3-coil charger base, and multiple desk 3-coil chargers (which charged other phones at a reasonable pace).
To describe what I mean by slow - Ampere reports charging rate fluctuating around 200-400mA, however, it seems to only charge 10% per hour or so. I left it to charge last night at 30%, and I woke up and it's not even full.
If anybody else is getting better results, please let me know.

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To describe what I mean by slow - Ampere reports charging rate fluctuating around 200-400mA, however, it seems to only charge 10% per hour or so. I left it to charge last night at 30%, and I woke up and it's not even full.
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Don't forget that your phone is also using the battery at night. A charging rate of 200-400mA would barely cover the consumption, and that's why your phone doesn't seem to charge. IMHO anything less than 1000mA is useless with most current phones, and the standard really is 3000mA+ with Quickcharge 2.0.

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Don't forget that your phone is also using the battery at night. A charging rate of 200-400mA would barely cover the consumption, and that's why your phone doesn't seem to charge. IMHO anything less than 1000mA is useless with most current phones, and the standard really is 3000mA+ with Quickcharge 2.0.
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Yeah I've more or less given up on the universal wireless receiver. It just takes way too long. Maybe one day there's be fast wireless charging receivers.

how well does the universal wireless charging coil charge? 10% an hour? if that's the case then there's really no point even using tbh. I really wished the Moto X Pure had wireless charging out of the box

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how well does the universal wireless charging coil charge? 10% an hour? if that's the case then there's really no point even using tbh. I really wished the Moto X Pure had wireless charging out of the box
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Yeah it's too slow to really be useful. I tried two different universal charging receivers, of different design. What's unusual is that I used to use this solution on my LG G2 (which also had a 3000mAh) battery and it was much quicker.
I suspect there must be some difference in either the USB circuitry or maybe the kernel I'm using, as some kernels support an accelerated USB charging rate. In any case, looks like no good for now. Maybe one day there'll be universal charging receivers which support fast charge (like the S6/S7 has).

I saw this thread a few days ago and ordered the Tylt from Amazon. Due to the curved back adding to the thickness of the phone, it didn't work very will with my 2015 Pure Edition. Sending it back to Amazon. FYI...

I want a QI compatible back cover. Rumours, news, releases?

I really like the back cover idea, even though I'm not sure I will be buying a battery back, at least not yet as they're waaay too expensive.
However, one enormous oversight from Lenovo/Moto is that the stock back cover doesn't have a QI receiver built in.
It's thick enough that a slim QI coil would fit comfortably, and not add any bulk from the "style mod"
It appears that the phone itself has the electronics required built in, so the thickness should not be affected.
(Based on the fact that there's a system service preinstalled about wireless charging)
I haven't been able to find anything on ebay or google, has anyone heard or seen something interesting?

Still no rumors but it's a bit early... anyway I'm pretty sure that a QI compatible cover and a slimmer battery pack (1000 mAh?) will be some of the first third parts MODs developed...

I'm assuming you are NOT looking for the Incipio battery with Qi Charger built in? I got one of those at best buy and love it, but there's no denying that it adds a bit of heft to the phone. Personally, I don't mind this at all and prefer a slightly thicker phone.

Well, for one that battery doesn't appear to get released in Sweden. The only back pack available is the non wireless at 120 something bucks. It's priced a little extreme imo..
(All things wireless charging are really hard to come by locally. Strange really since IKEA actually makes qi compatible furniture these days..)
And it really is a little on the thick side, although the fact that I can drop the backpack directly on a charger and still have my phone is genius.
A backpack with at most 1mm extra bulk from a style cover and some miniscule 1Ah battery built in would be cool though.
Should be possible, the ipad air has some really thin cells inside, I've used butchered ipad air batteries for several projects.
As a side note, the Chinese super premium brand Xiaomi is about to release a 2-way QC3.0 Type C power bank.
That could be a good middle ground for me.

How much bulk added? Like the JBL speaker bulk?
Can you post a picture what it looks like on your phone?

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How much bulk added? Like the JBL speaker bulk?
Can you post a picture what it looks like on your phone?
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The Incipio battery is wireless charging ready, just check the model. I don't have any camera but you can see the three mods and compare them.
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The Incipio battery is wireless charging ready, just check the model. I don't have any camera but you can see the three mods and compare them.
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Yes, but please note that model in picture is without wireless charge option (MT-381-WHT).
Models with wireless charge are MT-382-WHT (white) and MT-382-BLK (black), even if they are identical from exterior ....
These days they are very hard to find and reserved by Motorola to few markets only...

After spending 25 minutes on the phone to Lenovo sales (rather than risk ordering the wrong one online) and having it double checked twice I'm waiting to return what they sent - just a moto mod charge pack not a wireless one as ordered.
After another three calls it turns out they are not in the UK yet.... unless you know differently??

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After spending 25 minutes on the phone to Lenovo sales (rather than risk ordering the wrong one online) and having it double checked twice I'm waiting to return what they sent - just a moto mod charge pack not a wireless one as ordered.
After another three calls it turns out they are not in the UK yet.... unless you know differently??
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Ugh... I sooo hate that. I mean, I know mistake happen, but when you do as much research as you possible can and double check with the company alerting them to the potential for a mixup and they still send you the wrong thing!

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Ugh... I sooo hate that. I mean, I know mistake happen, but when you do as much research as you possible can and double check with the company alerting them to the potential for a mixup and they still send you the wrong thing!
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Versions listed on amazon in europe have a different code from the above, but are all without wireless, so they are about MT-381-xxx with different coding...

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Ugh... I sooo hate that. I mean, I know mistake happen, but when you do as much research as you possible can and double check with the company alerting them to the potential for a mixup and they still send you the wrong thing!
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And that was the 28th October... here we are the 12th November and they still haven't even authorised collection of the wrong item - never mind a credit And it's not for the want of trying... emails, repeated phone calls, general 'abuse' on Facebook
I hate Lenovo big style, never again!

I know this is a little off-topic but I have the Tumi wireless charging battery mod and for the life of my I can't seem to find a way to consistently charge the pack wirelessly. It would always recognize that it's on a wireless charger and start charging for a few seconds then disconnect then reconnect then disconnect...so on and so forth. Does anyone have the same issue or do I have a faulty unit?
Edit: Old Hardware: ChoeTech fast wireless charger (10w max output) + ChoeTech adaptive fast charger wall brick + Generic USB A to Micro USB (to power the wireless charger)
Originally I had my ChoeTech Fast wireless charger hooked up as shown above. The issue wasn't the Tumi, the wireless charger or the power brick. It was the generic cable I used to plug the brick into the wireless charging pad. I switched to a higher quality cable that I knew would work with the max output of the adaptive fast charging wall brick and all my issues went away! Hope that helps!
New Hardware: ChoeTech fast wireless charger (10w max output) + ChoeTech adaptive fast charger wall brick + High quality adaptive fast charging micro usb cable from Anker.

Mouahmong said:
I know this is a little off-topic but I have the Tumi wireless charging battery mod and for the life of my I can't seem to find a way to consistently charge the pack wirelessly. It would always recognize that it's on a wireless charger and start charging for a few seconds then disconnect then reconnect then disconnect...so on and so forth. Does anyone have the same issue or do I have a faulty unit?
Edit: Old Hardware: ChoeTech fast wireless charger (10w max output) + ChoeTech adaptive fast charger wall brick + Generic USB A to Micro USB (to power the wireless charger)
Originally I had my ChoeTech Fast wireless charger hooked up as shown above. The issue wasn't the Tumi, the wireless charger or the power brick. It was the generic cable I used to plug the brick into the wireless charging pad. I switched to a higher quality cable that I knew would work with the max output of the adaptive fast charging wall brick and all my issues went away! Hope that helps!
New Hardware: ChoeTech fast wireless charger (10w max output) + ChoeTech adaptive fast charger wall brick + High quality adaptive fast charging micro usb cable from Anker.
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Hi, I got a question, can the battery bod be charged (on the wireless charger) if the phone is not connected to it?
That would be very handy.
Thanks! :good:

yes

Another wireless charging (Qi) thread

Wondering if anyone has used the ZENS chargers. I'm looking at this one for the V30: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B079NWG6L7
It appears to support 15W Qi charging but it's been a while since I've bought any wireless chargers and there still isn't much information out there (or great selection of chargers). I'm worried companies are using proprietary technology (like G-Sync from NVIDIA) to lock out other phone vendors from taking advantage of something. The concern is if the charger would work with LG phones, considering it's explicitly calling out Samsung and iPhone charging. It could be that they're doing this because of market share/popularity of the devices, but I don't know that.
The image on Amazon does say "Other" and show support for "5-15W certified" as being "faster, peak charging" but you know how these images on Amazon are.. and how things sometimes tend to be picky regardless...
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Manufacturer's page: https://www.makezens.com/shop/zens-single-ultra-fast-wireless-charger-optimized-for-apple-iphone/
Otherwise, does anyone know of a charger that supports fast Qi charging and will automatically shut off when the battery is full (instead of cycling on and off every second like my Panasonic QE-TM101-K), supports fastest possible Qi charging on the V30 and isn't finicky about where you place the phone?
I was checking out the Belkin F7U014dqSLV but it appears to have many complaints about being finicky about phone placement. I don't like these chargers that require the phone to be placed precisely.... it almost entirely defeats the purpose of using a wireless charger.
Also, wow... not only should phone companies start adding battery limitation settings straight into the phone's OS but these chargers should have the option to define a maximum charge % too.
I want one specifically that is a pad rather than something that props the phone up (stand).
What are your experiences and recommendations for 15W Qi chargers?

Umidigi Q1. Umidigi is actually a phone company itself and like LG got carried away with Qualcomm's lousy fast wireless charging claims - so they had to make their own fast wireless charger; which happens to be the Umidigi Q1.
Fast charging speed with original V30 charger is very good. I have observed 30% increase in 30 minutes.
But you must find the correct spot on this small round device to start charging. From what I am experiencing so far, V30 must sit a little bit lower than the middle of the charger : then V30 reports it is fast wireless charging and also charges fast.

eyupo92 said:
Umidigi Q1. Umidigi is actually a phone company itself and like LG got carried away with Qualcomm's lousy fast wireless charging claims - so they had to make their own fast wireless charger; which happens to be the Umidigi Q1.
Fast charging speed with original V30 charger is very good. I have observed 30% increase in 30 minutes.
But you must find the correct spot on this small round device to start charging. From what I am experiencing so far, V30 must sit a little bit lower than the middle of the charger : then V30 reports it is fast wireless charging and also charges fast.
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I didn't know there was a reply to this... anyways I placed my order on December 31st for the ZENS and I can report that it works well and is worth the price. It isn't cheap stuff at all. The power adapter for the wall comes with 3 swappable prongs for regional sockets and even the twist tie on the cable isn't cheap plastic garbage like many cheap products are. While the brand is relatively unknown, they seem to actually be making pretty premium products. The charger successfully Fast Charges the V30+ via Qi and even works through the Spigen Tough Armor case.
Regarding the original charger, my phone didn't come with one and I intend on using wireless charging partially because I want to avoid plugging a USB cable into the phone as much as possible to prolong the life of the port.

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I didn't know there was a reply to this... anyways I placed my order on December 31st for the ZENS and I can report that it works well and is worth the price. It isn't cheap stuff at all. The power adapter for the wall comes with 3 swappable prongs for regional sockets and even the twist tie on the cable isn't cheap plastic garbage like many cheap products are. While the brand is relatively unknown, they seem to actually be making pretty premium products. The charger successfully Fast Charges the V30+ via Qi and even works through the Spigen Tough Armor case.
Regarding the original charger, my phone didn't come with one and I intend on using wireless charging partially because I want to avoid plugging a USB cable into the phone as much as possible to prolong the life of the port.
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I picked up one of these ZENS chargers yesterday from Amazon for my B&H US998 V30S. I had the opposite experience from s0lidsneak. I put the phone on the charger before I went to bed. I got the "fast wireless charging" message and another one stating that full charge would be achieved in 1 hr 5m. About 6 hours later, it had only gone from 53% to 73%. The phone was VERY warm, and the charger itself was almost too hot to touch. I had it in the upright position, the entire reason I bought this charger.
I'll try it again tonight, but if I can't get better charging speed out of this without it warming up the phone so much, it's going back. Any thoughts on what I might have done wrong or why it's doing this would be appreciated.
Dave

Dataman100 said:
I picked up one of these ZENS chargers yesterday from Amazon for my B&H US998 V30S. I had the opposite experience from s0lidsneak. I put the phone on the charger before I went to bed. I got the "fast wireless charging" message and another one stating that full charge would be achieved in 1 hr 5m. About 6 hours later, it had only gone from 53% to 73%. The phone was VERY warm, and the charger itself was almost too hot to touch. I had it in the upright position, the entire reason I bought this charger.
I'll try it again tonight, but if I can't get better charging speed out of this without it warming up the phone so much, it's going back. Any thoughts on what I might have done wrong or why it's doing this would be appreciated.
Dave
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There's no upright position on the charger I linked but they do make one like that. The phone can get pretty hot if I use the Battery Limit app and put it on that charger but for normal charges it seems to only get moderately warm, which is to be expected when charging a battery and since 2013 when I used wireless charging I noticed it gets a little warmer than a regular cable charge too. Haven't had any extreme overheats like you have using the model I linked but have no experience with whichever one you bought.
I'm new to any kind of "fast charging" as the only other wirelessly charged phone I've had was a Nexus 5 but I think it's normal for it to get a little warmer than a slow charge. As far as how long it's taking you to charge, that's very strange and I have more of a feeling that's a battery/battery calibration issue or maybe the phone is having trouble staying connected to the charger, in which case I'd blame the charger for not having appropriately positioned coils to be suitable for all phones. It's hard to say when I am unable to put the same phone up to the same charger and see for myself.

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There's no upright position on the charger I linked but they do make one like that. The phone can get pretty hot if I use the Battery Limit app and put it on that charger but for normal charges it seems to only get moderately warm, which is to be expected when charging a battery and since 2013 when I used wireless charging I noticed it gets a little warmer than a regular cable charge too. Haven't had any extreme overheats like you have using the model I linked but have no experience with whichever one you bought.
I'm new to any kind of "fast charging" as the only other wirelessly charged phone I've had was a Nexus 5 but I think it's normal for it to get a little warmer than a slow charge. As far as how long it's taking you to charge, that's very strange and I have more of a feeling that's a battery/battery calibration issue or maybe the phone is having trouble staying connected to the charger, in which case I'd blame the charger for not having appropriately positioned coils to be suitable for all phones. It's hard to say when I am unable to put the same phone up to the same charger and see for myself.
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Oops, you're correct. I purchased the other model, ZESC07BA, which does have an upright mode. I want to be able to see the phone from bed. The V30S is my first Qi capable phone so I'm new to this as well.
I have no idea why it looks like it's fast charging, but took so long to show any increase. It never made it to 100% before I had to get up. Plus, it's roasting the phone. I expected some heat, but the charger was almost too hot to touch. I may just go back to wired charging. My phone wasn't even warm, (at least not through the case), when I wired charged it. Plan on keeping this a while so I don't want to limit it's lifespan by overheating it.
In reading some of the Amazon reviews, other's have said that it gets pretty hot as well. I'll give it one more shot, but if it can't charge the phone in one night, it's going back.

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Oops, you're correct. I purchased the other model, ZESC07BA, which does have an upright mode. I want to be able to see the phone from bed. The V30S is my first Qi capable phone so I'm new to this as well.
I have no idea why it looks like it's fast charging, but took so long to show any increase. It never made it to 100% before I had to get up. Plus, it's roasting the phone. I expected some heat, but the charger was almost too hot to touch. I may just go back to wired charging. My phone wasn't even warm, (at least not through the case), when I wired charged it. Plan on keeping this a while so I don't want to limit it's lifespan by overheating it.
In reading some of the Amazon reviews, other's have said that it gets pretty hot as well. I'll give it one more shot, but if it can't charge the phone in one night, it's going back.
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Maybe you should email the company. Their responses aren't very fast (a few days) but they do answer. Maybe you have a defective unit?
I just tested the charger I bought with the V30+ from 53% to 73%:
The ambient temp before charge was 19 C and battery temp was 27 C.
The ambient temp after charge hasn't changed and the battery temp is 37.5 C.
It took 20 minutes to charge from 53% to 73%.
The charge limit is set to 81% (I knew it hit 73% by tapping to wake the screen).
The Spigen Tough Armor case was on the phone.
According to IMEI lookup, the phone was produced on October 14th, 2017.

I decided to return it because it isn't as simple to position the phone on it as I first thought. After spending more time with the charger I think it's too much of a hassle trying to position it. I think I may have just gotten lucky on the first attempts the night I got it.
The rest of the points are still valid. It's well-made as far as build quality and charges quickly. I just dislike how difficult it is to place the phone.
Additionally, my monitor just died on me and I need to save up to replace it. I'll go for another charger later and will probably pick up this before a Qi charger I can decide on comes along.

I ve just bought this Huawei cp60 (15w) without charger itself.. I ll test it and let u guys know the result..
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My wife was having trouble lining up her phone correctly when placing it on her wireless charger. So decided to make a base or guide for her charging pad so her phone would line up correctly every time. First I made a prototype out of cardboard, then I 3D printed the final design. Works like a charm and she loves it!

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My wife was having trouble lining up her phone correctly when placing it on her wireless charger. So decided to make a base or guide for her charging pad so her phone would line up correctly every time. First I made a prototype out of cardboard, then I 3D printed the final design. Works like a charm and she loves it!
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Or use tilted charger so you can see notifications also. Can't mess it up.
https://www.amazon.com/Anker-Qi-Certified-Compatible-Fast-Charging-PowerWave/dp/B07DBXZZN3

wtang said:
My wife was having trouble lining up her phone correctly when placing it on her wireless charger. So decided to make a base or guide for her charging pad so her phone would line up correctly every time. First I made a prototype out of cardboard, then I 3D printed the final design. Works like a charm and she loves it!
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:good: the Papa Johns had a certain rustic quality to it but good job with the 3D printing :good:
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This why I only wanted a stand type one. I can just rest it on there, vertical or horizontal working on mine, and it just works. Also easy to read on the desk.

wtang said:
My wife was having trouble lining up her phone correctly when placing it on her wireless charger. So decided to make a base or guide for her charging pad so her phone would line up correctly every time. First I made a prototype out of cardboard, then I 3D printed the final design. Works like a charm and she loves it!
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That's a cool idea.. I wish the chargers were just large to begin with though.
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Or use tilted charger so you can see notifications also. Can't mess it up.
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I was thinking of getting one of those next time.. a tilted one... Maybe just leave it at my PC and not worry about charging at bed since the battery is so much better than the Nexus 5.
Also about notifications.. would sure be a lot better if the screen could light up when receiving them. I don't understand why it doesn't... especially since the phone lacks a notification light.
I would also love to be able to see notifications with previews on that screen instead of requiring I use always on then seeing a little icon there indicating a notification exists.

The metal one by Anker is by far the fastest one. I have the white stand with cooling fan one too. But the metal one is definitely faster. I mean not a huge amount faster but it's definitely faster. Would explain the extra heat. I mean Anker didn't start advertising support for 15w phones until the the metal one.

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The metal one by Anker is by far the fastest one. I have the white stand with cooling fan one too. But the metal one is definitely faster. I mean not a huge amount faster but it's definitely faster. Would explain the extra heat. I mean Anker didn't start advertising support for 15w phones until the the metal one.
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The White Stand didn't even work with the included charger for me. I just want something that doesn't take ten minutes to position my phone to charge it. Even the large anker pad is a pain in the ass.

TPMJB said:
The White Stand didn't even work with the included charger for me. I just want something that doesn't take ten minutes to position my phone to charge it. Even the large anker pad is a pain in the ass.
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The metal one doesn't really have any positioning issues, I have positioning issues with the white one but it sounds like they aren't as bad as yours were.
From as far as I can tell the metal one will start charging as soon as it defects proper positioning. Like it won't say it isn't positioned properly with the led, it just charges when it defects the phone. The only time I got the pad to say it isn't positioned properly was after like 5-10 minutes of trying to see if it even did that. And I was actually holding the phone above the charger to fool it lol.
In regards to the metal pad , it runs cool when used atop a thermal pad I had laying around.
But I'm gonna stick to the white stand and use a magnetic micro USB cable to avoid strain on the port if it gets knocked over by one of my dogs. I can already tells it's loose.
And the metal pad seems to only run hot during the initial fast charging, like how it charges really fast and really hot with a cable, then slows down the charging the closer you get 100%. I've never had it feel hot to the touch when I wake up.
Maybe look into a car charger one? Some of them advertise as useful when taped to a desk or whatnot

Would the LG G3 wireless charger fit the LG V30 +?
Do you know if dual-chip version would also accept wireless charging? Thank you.

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Would the LG G3 wireless charger fit the LG V30 +?
Do you know if dual-chip version would also accept wireless charging? Thank you.
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All V30 variants have Qi wireless charging feature. Any Qi wireless charging pad will work. Some do charge faster than others, however.
The newer ones have more power. A Qi wireless charging pad for LG G3 would be from 2014. (I've used Qi wireless charging pad since 2013, but as the technology has improved I've ditched the older ones.) But yes, it would work.