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No Android Wear news

Announced Android 5.0 said nothing unless I missed it about Android Wear.
Very disappointed.
When will we see new devices?
ASUS, LG Round, Sony Android watch were all mentioned in the past but October is over half way done.
Still only have the Gear Live and LG watch (no MOTO 360 in Canada)

While it might be reasonable to expect Google to have mentioned Android Wear 2.0 software, they are certainly not going to announce the release of a watch that is manufactured by somebody else.

Very disappointed too. No news at the moment

i think the whole smartwatch hype is cooling off..... except for moto360.
http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/383971/smartwatches-most-owners-have-stopped-using-them

honnor said:
i think the whole smartwatch hype is cooling off..... except for moto360.
http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/383971/smartwatches-most-owners-have-stopped-using-them
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That was posted over a year ago. Read some current news.

honnor said:
i think the whole smartwatch hype is cooling off..... except for moto360.
http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/383971/smartwatches-most-owners-have-stopped-using-them
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What? On the hardware side the LG G Watch R and the Asus Zen Watch are coming to the market this week, and on the software side Android Wear 2.0 is set to be released along side Lollipop 5.0 (set for 11-12 now), Android Wear is anything but cooling off.
That article was printed before Android Wear was even announced! I have to agree however, that before Android Wear, smart watches were all over the place - a result of them being all proprietary. Most of them would only work with certain phones even. I was very excited to see AW announced and then released because it gives all the manufacturers a common system to run. This will mean better support and people will be more inclined to try it out knowing that all the devices will work together. It's also Androids only hope of competing with the Apple Smartwatch (which I think it will do very successfully).

sic0048 said:
That article was printed before Android Wear was even announced! I have to agree however, that before Android Wear, smart watches were all over the place - a result of them being all proprietary.
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Isn't Android Wear proprietary? Google even stopped a start up from introducing an Android Wear device. Android and Android Wear are not handled in the same way.

Gadgety said:
Isn't Android Wear proprietary? Google even stopped a start up from introducing an Android Wear device. Android and Android Wear are not handled in the same way.
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It use to be that some of the watches would only work with certain phones. Like Samsung producing watches that only worked with Samsung phones. Then all the phones had different os and user experiences. This made for an extremely confusing and segmented market. Now with android wear, at least a buyer knows that a phone will work on many phones and the user experience is going to be the same.
That start up was stopped because they had not aquired the proper licenses or permission from Google to use the wear os.

Android Wear update showcased with Material design
Good news: http://phandroid.com/2014/11/10/android-wear-app-material-design-google-play-services-6-5-75/
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Good news: http://phandroid.com/2014/11/10/android-wear-app-material-design-google-play-services-6-5-75/
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More good news: Exclusive: Android Wear 5.0 Lollipop features revealed, adds plenty of new goodies for your smartwatch

sic0048 said:
It use to be that some of the watches would only work with certain phones. Like Samsung producing watches that only worked with Samsung phones. Then all the phones had different os and user experiences. This made for an extremely confusing and segmented market. Now with android wear, at least a buyer knows that a phone will work on many phones and the user experience is going to be the same.
That start up was stopped because they had not aquired the proper licenses or permission from Google to use the wear os.
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OK. Would you have any info on how to get the license, and the cost of it?

TjPhysicist said:
More good news: Exclusive: Android Wear 5.0 Lollipop features revealed, adds plenty of new goodies for your smartwatch
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Add almost a month later nothing.
FYI as far as I am concerned there are 3 watches in Canada.
Canada has no MOTO360, LG Round or Asus Zen

Rumor is that it is Coming this Wednesday
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pakure said:
Rumor is that it is Coming this Wednesday
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I hope so!

pakure said:
Rumor is that it is Coming this Wednesday
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Any source on that?

At this point I am finding it more likely that I will find a live unicorn on wednesday

TjPhysicist said:
At this point I am finding it more likely that I will find a live unicorn on wednesday
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Enjoy your unicorn sighting then
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siwan05 said:
Any source on that?
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https://plus.google.com/+DerekRoss/posts/cNHdocS4MD5

This sounds promising! Although my battery life is pretty good, longer is always better. Plus I would really like to see this watch with ART.

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https://plus.google.com/+DerekRoss/posts/cNHdocS4MD5
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Thanks!

Lollipop update?

As far as I remember HTC promised to give all the One series phones Android 5 ( Lollipop ) in Q1 2015.
Anyone with connections with HTC know if and when approximately the update will come ?

September in Europe
greetz
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September in Europe
greetz
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That late? Damn now i'm thinking about buying a new phone...

Everest_ said:
That late? Damn now i'm thinking about buying a new phone...
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Lol, what would you do if Lollipop still wouldn't be released? Throwing your phone away, because you don't want the previous OS/version anymore?!

S-Line said:
Lol, what would you do if Lollipop still wouldn't be released? Throwing your phone away, because you don't want the previous OS/version anymore?!
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I have got this phone since it's release, back in 2013, it's getting old + the forum is kinda dead + HTC has never given this phone full support, it doesn't even have an official released RUU.
Don't get me wrong i love this phone, i just want to get something more up-to-date and with better specs.

S-Line said:
Lol, what would you do if Lollipop still wouldn't be released? Throwing your phone away, because you don't want the previous OS/version anymore?!
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That would've been strike #2 by HTC.
First of all, they should be more than thankful for us putting up with their faulty engineering ( hairline cracks ).
At least they could keep the phone up to date and tweak its performance as much as they can as a "payback" for the hairline cracks.
Second that's breaking their own officially given promise about bringing Lollipop to the One Mini.

htc_one_mini_m4 said:
That would've been strike #2 by HTC.
First of all, they should be more than thankful for us putting up with their faulty engineering ( hairline cracks ).
At least they could keep the phone up to date and tweak its performance as much as theiy can as a "payback" for the hairline cracks.
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Cracks weren't the issue here! And for best performance you should use a custom rom (I never used an official rom with all the google-crap, but wait for a working Lollipop that hopefully will be reduced to minimal).

no lollipop for htc one mini...
HTC canncelled their plan to update the mini 2 to lollipop. So I highly doubt we are getting it :/
https://twitter.com/htc/status/592823289204047872

Legally they have to update it... theyve stated in many advertisements two years of updates for htc mini and mini 2....Mini updates will run out in august so still time for an update (pic below)
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Lawsuits pending...

I like how Lolipop is sutable to run even on 1Ghz singlecore 512mb ram devices, but HTC cannot make it for mini versions of it's flagship cuz of and i quote - 'technical constraints with the device's ageing hardware configuration.'
What a lot of bull! another marketing strategy from HTC... THROW AWAY YOUR ''OLD'' MINI AND MINI 2 DEVICES AND BUY 'ONE MINI 3' WHICH WILL BE SOON AWAILABLE AND HAVE LOLIPOP!
I am officially saying that i WAS a HTC fan (my last 4 devices was htc's = hero - desire - sensation - one mini) but seeing what a lot of bulls they have done for consumers(even more than apple) on it's devices next device im considering some other company than HTC!
Sorry but they have finnaly lost me with it stupid money making scheme rather than thinking for consumer ! :crying: This is too much now!

Guess who won't be buying any HTC device. FU HTC.

I would not write it off yet. HTC UK just posted new updates page here . One mini is listed there so it is supposed to receive additional update at some point.

xdamar said:
I would not write it off yet. HTC UK just posted new updates page here . One mini is listed there so it is supposed to receive additional update at some point.
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It's gonna stay like that.
Devices that have something coming up describe the level of completion if you check

htc_one_mini_m4 said:
It's gonna stay like that.
Devices that have something coming up describe the level of completion if you check
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At least it is listed even if no update is currently in the process. My understanding is that devices listed are supposed to receive update sometime in the future. Others just fall into "Unlisted" category...

xdamar said:
At least it is listed even if no update is currently in the process. My understanding is that devices listed are supposed to receive update sometime in the future. Others just fall into "Unlisted" category...
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You're dreaming buddy.
HTC replied to me on Twitter again today.
There will be no Lollipop from HTC for the One Mini.
It's final, final, final.
https://twitter.com/HTC_UK/status/605636543815032833

Seems we have come to the End for the EP

It's probably not news to everyone that Essential has thrown in the towel on the Essential Phone
https://www.droid-life.com/2018/12/28/it-looks-like-the-end-has-finally-come-to-the-essential-phone/
Sad news really ... This is the first phone I've had that I really really loved
I basically quite looking at other phones after owning this one.
Hopefully something else will come along that sparks my interest, maybe a Oneplus is in my future ?

For me, this is a sad occasion too. My Essential phone has been amazing and I don't think I've loved a phone the same way. I can toy with this thing a ton, with it being Treble compatible and pretty close to stock android. (I even watched I/O 18 live, and cheered when Essential was revealed to be on the beta list for pie.) Right now if you guys want one last fling at a rooted tweak for the Essential phone, check out this Magisk Module from the Lawnchair Launcher team, called Quickstep Switcher.
https://twitter.com/lawnchairapp/status/1078692474795769857
It switches your recents provider on a system level, allowing for launchers like Lawnchair and OnePlus Launcher to use their Pie navigation features on your device. The modded OnePlus Launcher they provided in the Telegram chat gives you iPhone X-Series fluid animations and movements. It's been a great ride y'all. See ya on the OnePlus 7 forums next year.

The PH1 is no longer for sale
but Essential is not dead yet.
https://www.theverge.com/circuitbre...one-discontinued-new-mobile-product-confirmed
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It's been pretty well known that Essential has been working on a new smartphone for a couple of months. They're definitely not dead.

Sad news but...Does it mean that we won't have more monthly updates?

Darkside1984 said:
Sad news but...Does it mean that we won't have more monthly updates?
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No they have said the updates will keep coming. And it's not as if the device will just quit now. People are such drama queens.

autosurgeon said:
No they have said the updates will keep coming. And it's not as if the device will just quit now. People are such drama queens.
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it's the end of an era, not really about the drama
As for them selling another phone, I have yet to see any news that confirms this.
"We are now hard at work on our next mobile product" doesn't really mean anything
some are speculating it means
But as part of that announcement, the company is also confirming something that fans had long hoped to be true: Essential is officially working on a second “mobile product,” presumably this rumored tiny phone that uses AI to answer emails and text messages for you. An Essential spokeswoman wouldn’t directly confirm to me that its “next mobile product” is a phone, but that’s what “mobile product” generally means.
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https://www.theverge.com/circuitbre...one-discontinued-new-mobile-product-confirmed
I be leave are phones will continue to be updated, but it's still sad to here production has stopped.

I suspect production has been over for 6 months or more likely a year.

The way read their statement is that they are stopping current production but will launch a new "AI" phone sometime. So definitely not dead.

No phone is restocked after an year and half, I don't see issues here..
It's old tech* now, nobody would buy a phone with an 835 when phone with 855 are in the pipeline for the next weeks... nobody gives a fk when any other company stops the production of older phones.. I really don't get why in this case there are news about it!
All media always had something negative to say about this phone.. in a way that's not justified in my opinion.
*Don't get me wrong, I love it, it's the best phone I ever had. To me, that I have bought it at a very convenient price, is the only true spiritual successor to nexus 5, just much better under every aspect.. but I bought it more than 1 year ago.. No people would like to buy a one plus 5, new from one plus, today.

Is there any chance ROM development will stop soon on this phone? I'm thinking of buying this phone used due to the stock nature but if ROM development is stopping soon as well, then I'll look elsewhere

StDevious said:
Is there any chance ROM development will stop soon on this phone? I'm thinking of buying this phone used due to the stock nature but if ROM development is stopping soon as well, then I'll look elsewhere
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ROM development will last years on a device like this.
Your biggest issue would be missing out on 5g in the next year... But as long as you plan to upgrade in 2-3 years from now you'll be fine and not miss much.

nascar48 said:
ROM development will last years on a device like this.
Your biggest issue would be missing out on 5g in the next year... But as long as you plan to upgrade in 2-3 years from now you'll be fine and not miss much.
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If there is 5 g in your area.
There are many places where 5G will probably never get there.
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https://www.computerworld.com/article/3310067/mobile-wireless/why-5g-will-disappoint-everyone.html
Edit2: grammar

chk27 said:
No phone is restocked after an year and half, I don't see issues here..
It's old tech* now, nobody would buy a phone with an 835 when phone with 855 are in the pipeline for the next weeks... nobody gives a fk when any other company stops the production of older phones.. I really don't get why in this case there are news about it!
All media always had something negative to say about this phone.. in a way that's not justified in my opinion.
*Don't get me wrong, I love it, it's the best phone I ever had. To me, that I have bought it at a very convenient price, is the only true spiritual successor to nexus 5, just much better under every aspect.. but I bought it more than 1 year ago.. No people would like to buy a one plus 5, new from one plus, today.
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I just bought the phone (granted I got it for free "essentially "^_^) but those specs mean nothing to me. Day to day performance and prompt updates which it looks like essential has been doing is important to me. People get WAY too caught up in these new SoC's when the originals have BARELY been tapped out and for 99% of people, they don't need more.

https://www.slashgear.com/evidence-essential-phone-ph-2-will-be-a-penultimate-evolution-06564808/
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Support told me an email the are working on their next mobile product.
The Phone has been out a while and I picked mine up new open box for $199.
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EMUI 10 for our beloved M5 might be coming soon?

According to this support message from July 31, 2020, the rep said they are continually optimizing the experience of EMUI 10.0 and asked to wait patiently.
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What do you folks think, there is hope?

I'm still on 8.0 since I have a US version. If any M5 is updated to 10, I will be shocked.
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C5Longhorn said:
I'm still on 8.0 since I have a US version. If any M5 is updated to 10, I will be shocked.
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Wow, this is awful. Mine is from the UK and I'm on 9.1.0.335
I thought the US owners were able to update already. Did you try the "Unable to receive official system updates" guide on Huawei's website or running the HiSense update software on PC?
It really disappoints me that we're even having this conversation regarding a two-year-old device. I will probably never buy another Huawey product again if that's the case. I'd expect to see at least EMUI 10 and Android 10 for the M5.

pyramid_head said:
Wow, this is awful. Mine is from the UK and I'm on 9.1.0.335
I thought the US owners were able to update already. Did you try the "Unable to receive official system updates" guide on Huawei's website or running the HiSense update software on PC?
It really disappoints me that we're even having this conversation regarding a two-year-old device. I will probably never buy another Huawey product again if that's the case. I'd expect to see at least EMUI 10 and Android 10 for the M5.
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It's now dropped off the support list completely - so don't expect any more updates. Still, at least in the UK/EU it's had more support than most Android providing manufacturers.
https://consumer.huawei.com/en/support/bulletin/
Now what other reasonably priced, higher spec android tablets are there out there?

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.... Still, at least in the UK/EU it's had more support than most Android providing manufacturers.
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well, one major release and two years of security patches is not so much, I was expecting a bit more from Huawei. At least they could open the device completely so that one can flash all partitions and not only system, boot and recovery.
Probably I should at least have a look at some actual GSI ...

AndDiSa said:
well, one major release and two years of security patches is not so much, I was expecting a bit more from Huawei. At least they could open the device completely so that one can flash all partitions and not only system, boot and recovery.
Probably I should at least have a look at some actual GSI ...
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It's also not what Huawei promised - in theory, it was one major OS update, 2 years feature updates, and 3 years security patches. However, given the Huawei/China vs Trump thing I can understand that going out the window.
However, as I keep asking, who else does supported, decent Android tablets at a reasonable price? I paid £220 for my 8.4" M5 2 and a bit years ago, and there isn't anything obvious at that type of price now.

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It's also not what Huawei promised - in theory, it was one major OS update, 2 years feature updates, and 3 years security patches. However, given the Huawei/China vs Trump thing I can understand that going out the window.
However, as I keep asking, who else does supported, decent Android tablets at a reasonable price? I paid £220 for my 8.4" M5 2 and a bit years ago, and there isn't anything obvious at that type of price now.
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Exactly. The Samsung tablets with fingerprint reader cost more than £600 and now I am so used to using the fingerprint instead of typing passwords all the time that I don't want a tablet without a reader.
One of the many reasons to hate Trump is that the best provider of Android hardware of the last three or four years has now disappeared from the market.

anonimo said:
Exactly. The Samsung tablets with fingerprint reader cost more than £600 and now I am so used to using the fingerprint instead of typing passwords all the time that I don't want a tablet without a reader.
One of the many reasons to hate Trump is that the best provider of Android hardware of the last three or four years has now disappeared from the market.
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I wouldn't say they've disappeared - but they are now using an AOSP build and have no access to Google Services out of the box. Which in turn reduces the practicality for many people, depending on the apps available in the App Gallery.

I don't belive in this. I've got the Media Pad M5 Pro (C431)
Stil (SEPTEMBER 20!!!) on Android 8.0.0 with July patch 2019
Support says - No update available for my device (Tried 5 different supporters)
I'm really angry coz it's the PRO Model.

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I don't belive in this. I've got the Media Pad M5 Pro (C431)
Stil (SEPTEMBER 20!!!) on Android 8.0.0 with July patch 2019
Support says - No update available for my device (Tried 5 different supporters)
I'm really angry coz it's the PRO Model.
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Your device is CMR-AL19 or CMR-W19? For the LTE version there should be available 9.1.0.351 or 9.1.0.352 ... for the WiFi version I didn't find any update.

Question Goodbye Motorola (Its been fun) Pixel going forward !

Well now owning a Pixel i see no reason to stick with Motorola or any other manufacturer. I mean Samsung does make Pixel Parts so I have to try to like Samsung as i don't Like Samsung due to they Lock down the BOOTLOADER on all US models (U).
Pixel devices they can't.
I have three major reasons why Pixel is the way to go.
1.UPDATES.
I've already had three updates and a software update in less than 2 months.
Motorola nor a dev can keep up with timely updates like a Billion dollar company like Google.
2.Security.
Monthly but not on time every month Security patches. ill take a security patch once a month rather than every 6 months like Motorola and others..
3.Pixel Exclusive perks.
I love the now playing feature, hold for me,
text to speech, translator,AOD customizable on (A14), spacial audio, live transcribe, voice assistance, so many more.
Motorola stock features don't come close nor does CUSTOM ROMS to Pixels overall PURE android experience.
Conclusion I'm running beta 3 Android 14 with hardly no bugs and two months away the final release will be available.
Lets see if Motorola can one day give us want we really want. Google listens to the consumers I've noticed..
Im daily driving Android 14 and it feels good to be first rather than last...
Ill miss ya MOTO!!
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jhjhjhjhjhjh said:
Well now owning a Pixel i see no reason to stick with Motorola or any other manufacturer. I mean Samsung does make Pixel Parts so I have to try to like Samsung as i don't Like Samsung due to they Lock down the BOOTLOADER on all US models (U).
Pixel devices they can't.
I have three major reasons why Pixel is the way to go.
1.UPDATES.
I've already had three updates and a software update in less than 2 months.
Motorola nor a dev can keep up with timely updates like a Billion dollar company like Google.
2.Security.
Monthly but not on time every month Security patches. ill take a security patch once a month rather than every 6 months like Motorola and others..
3.Pixel Exclusive perks.
I love the now playing feature, hold for me,
text to speech, translator,AOD customizable on (A14), spacial audio, live transcribe, voice assistance, so many more.
Motorola stock features don't come close nor does CUSTOM ROMS to Pixels overall PURE android experience.
Conclusion I'm running beta 3 Android 14 with hardly no bugs and two months away the final release will be available.
Lets see if Motorola can one day give us want we really want. Google listens to the consumers I've noticed..
Im daily driving Android 14 and it feels good to be first rather than last...
Ill miss ya MOTO!!
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Yeah, I'll pass. Considering I debloat everything Google from my phone the last thing I would want to do is have one of their phones. I've already Jailbroken my Iphone if I get tired of my Moto. Google can kiss my ass - that sneaking the Covid app bull**** they did during the Pandemic (and keep in mind my bootloader was unlocked, all updates disabled, and I had full control over the system files via root and modding without Magisk) was dirty and if they can do that they can sneak ANYTHING onto a phone. No thank you.
I'll take my chances with Moto until no phone can be bootloader unlocked. Just gave up my Moto 5g Ace (which I love) to move to Moto 5G Stylus (against my will) because my mainsteady is old and ready to lay it down.
I'm good but I will miss you. I hope to never have to lower myself to these locked down newer Androids that are harder to manipulate.

Already on June Security Patch.. Trust in no one but pick the less of two evils...