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I am using the T-Mobile variant (128GB ROM, 8GB RAM), if it makes a difference. I feel that the apps close rather quickly. Some of my bigger games would remain in the memory for a much longer period of time on other phones, but not so much this phone. Just.my opinion.
For the record, I like to play Injustice, Brave Frontier, and Modern Combat 5. While they are all large memory hogs, they would stay in the memory of my Nexus 6 for hours, even overnight. If I don't return to the games within 15mins, they tend to be restarted with the 6T.
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I am using the T-Mobile variant (128GB ROM, 8GB RAM), if it makes a difference. I feel that the apps close rather quickly. Some of my bigger games would remain in the memory for a much longer period of time on other phones, but not so much this phone. Just.my opinion.
For the record, I like to play Injustice, Brave Frontier, and Modern Combat 5. While they are all large memory hogs, they would stay in the memory of my Nexus 6 for hours, even overnight. If I don't return to the games within 15mins, they tend to be restarted with the 6T.
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How long havre you had the phone? I had that impression when I first got the phone but after a few days it seemed to adapt. The two games I play stay in memory much better now than before and way better than my Pixel XL2. Even after some navigation, I was shocked to see my games still ready to play.
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How long havre you had the phone? I had that impression when I first got the phone but after a few days it seemed to adapt. The two games I play stay in memory much better now than before and way better than my Pixel XL2. Even after some navigation, I was shocked to see my games still ready to play.
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This is my 4th day having the phone.
Let me know if it starts improving. My theory is the memory management is adaptive.
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This is my 4th day having the phone.
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I am experiencing the same issue. Battery optimization has been set for all the critical apps, but still they reload. I have the phone 2 weeks.
AarSyl said:
I am using the T-Mobile variant (128GB ROM, 8GB RAM), if it makes a difference. I feel that the apps close rather quickly. Some of my bigger games would remain in the memory for a much longer period of time on other phones, but not so much this phone. Just.my opinion.
For the record, I like to play Injustice, Brave Frontier, and Modern Combat 5. While they are all large memory hogs, they would stay in the memory of my Nexus 6 for hours, even overnight. If I don't return to the games within 15mins, they tend to be restarted with the 6T.
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Hi guys, what's the best way to keep apps running in the background?
I use an app called Kinscreen which keeps my screen awake but as soon as I go to sleep, the following morning the app has closed down. The strange thing is that not all apps close down...
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Hi guys, what's the best way to keep apps running in the background?
I use an app called Kinscreen which keeps my screen awake but as soon as I go to sleep, the following morning the app has closed down. The strange thing is that not all apps close down...
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Lock it in recents.
Press the 3 dot menu at the top right under battery optimisation to get to the advanced optimisations, that will be where you're having issues, toggle the switches there.
But be prepared to see your battery life not last as long.
I bought my 6T from the Oneplus website, it has a feature called Smart Boost which is supposed to make more use of the vast amount of RAM the phone has. I find that my large apps almost never close out on me. For example, i have had pokemon go stay alive in the background for over 24 hours before. I have heard that SmartBoost will be coming to the TMO 6T eventually.
https://piunikaweb.com/2018/11/06/t-mobile-oneplus-6t-doesnt-feature-smart-boost-but-its-coming/
One Plus 6T 6010, 128GB storage 8GB of RAM.
Today I noticed that if I use 'Here Maps' and turn the screen off (voice prompts are often enough) it is killed within minutes.
After all the fuss that was made about the Pixel 3 having 'only' 4GB of RAM (which is now fixed??), poor RAM management it is unacceptable on a device with 8GB.
I was getting quite frustrated with apps closing at first, it was killing my run tracker while I was running...
Going into battery optimizations and turning off the advanced optimizations helped massively. Still very good battery life!
Hubird said:
One Plus 6T 6010, 128GB storage 8GB of RAM.
Today I noticed that if I use 'Here Maps' and turn the screen off it is killed within minutes.
After all the fuss that was made about the Pixel 3 having 4GB of RAM and it's (now fixed??) poor RAM management it is unacceptable that a device with 8GB can't keep something so simple in memory.
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Lol you're so silly
We shouldn't have to resort to changing settings to get apps to stay in RAM, 8GB is top of the range.
The new update has totally borked the memory manager, it's killing my run tracker almost as soon as I turn the screen off, if it is not currently open. The only thing I have found that fixes this is to make a tasker profile that opens my run tracker when I lock the phone.
I'm a bit unhappy. Great hardware, terrible software. I get a solid day of battery even using GPS for an hour and a half, so this aggressive battery management is not necessary.
I'll be flashing a rom as soon as they support the fingerprint reader.
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McLaren edition OnePus 6T owner here. I don't game, but I use to have literally dozens of apps open in the background. Haven't had an app reload within a whole day from any app so far. I've been using it for a couple days, and I clear all apps from RAM when I go to sleep.
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I have always wonder, how well dose android leverage multi core SOCS? I know from being a PC hardware geek that most developers are terrible and using all the power in multi core CPU's. I understand that in benches all the cores are used, but how often are task spread out over the cores in real life usage. My theory is that they are barely used yet I have no evidence to promote this.
Depends on the governor settings but they definitely use all cores a lot by default.
Install system monitor lite and see for yourself
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Depends on the governor settings but they definitely use all cores a lot by default.
Install system monitor lite and see for yourself
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Do you think this would scale well onto the 8 core SOCS? I was just wondering if they really offered good real life performance rather than just good benchmarks
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I have always wonder, how well dose android leverage multi core SOCS? I know from being a PC hardware geek that most developers are terrible and using all the power in multi core CPU's. I understand that in benches all the cores are used, but how often are task spread out over the cores in real life usage. My theory is that they are barely used yet I have no evidence to promote this.
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Weird. I was just wondering this myself, mainly because I just dont know what kind of specs it would take to have me use something other than my N5 and I am a phone-whore.
There aren't many tasks that need more than 2 cores active at a time. Gaming is one of the few times a 3rd core will kick in from what I've seen.
Traditionally, encoding benefits a lot from multiple cores but that isn't a task people usually attempt on their mobile.
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There aren't many tasks that need more than 2 cores active at a time. Gaming is one of the few times a 3rd core will kick in from what I've seen.
Traditionally, encoding benefits a lot from multiple cores but that isn't a task people usually attempt on their mobile.
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You said that it will trigger the third core while gaming. I have a Nexus 5 and it lags in a specific have game. Idon't think my Nexus is trigering all the cores as it happens on my PC with the same application. On pc All cores goes to 90% as i don't have a graphics card. On Nexus i can't get the game to run on 100% even when i drop down all the quality over performance. I know that the device can handle this game. It's just a bootle neckle a believe. It's running stock rom stock kernle On demand governor. It should trigger all the cores.....i'm very sad with that too as i have bought the device manly for use like this.
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You said that it will trigger the third core while gaming. I have a Nexus 5 and it lags in a specific have game. Idon't think my Nexus is trigering all the cores as it happens on my PC with the same application. On pc All cores goes to 90% as i don't have a graphics card. On Nexus i can't get the game to run on 100% even when i drop down all the quality over performance. I know that the device can handle this game. It's just a bootle neckle a believe. It's running stock rom stock kernle On demand governor. It should trigger all the cores.....i'm very sad with that too as i have bought the device manly for use like this.
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Which game are you talking about? Once the phone starts heating up within about 20-30minutes it will begin to thermal throttle the CPU cores and clock speeds.
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Which game are you talking about? Once the phone starts heating up within about 20-30minutes it will begin to thermal throttle the CPU cores and clock speeds.
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I'm talking about Digimon Adventure (1.5GB rom) on PPSSPP it's not the only game that i'm having this problem. And i'm pretty sure that nexus is not "taking it serious". From the beggning of the game you can see it already laggin. When i zoom out and the back ground bacames large it goes around to 50% when have about 6 NPCs on the screen it hapens too. When battling its pretty unstable. Some times ti can take up to 200% and some time to 90 again on the same screen in 3 seconds just changing the perpective of the camera.
@update i have take the screenshots from system monitor.
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I'm talking about Digimon Adventure (1.5GB rom) on PPSSPP it's not the only game that i'm having this problem. And i'm pretty sure that nexus is not "taking it serious". From the beggning of the game you can see it already laggin. When i zoom out and the back ground bacames large it goes around to 50% when have about 6 NPCs on the screen it hapens too. When battling its pretty unstable. Some times ti can take up to 200% and some time to 90 again onde the same screen in 3 seconds just changing the perpective of the camera.
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That's an issue with the ROM and emulation. It's very common for emulated games to have frame rate issues and you probably need to play around with the render settings. Nothing to do with our phone specifically, check other forums for more advice on the subject.
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That's an issue with the ROM and emulation. It's very common for emulated games to have frame rate issues and you probably need to play around with the render settings. Nothing to do with our phone specifically, check other forums for more advice on the subject.
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See the images above. My cpu goes only to maximium of 50% on the emulator. I have been playng other things and i feel that my device is getting some kind of botttle neck.
Sorry about the english.
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See the images above. My cpu goes only to maximium of 50% on the emulator. I have been playng other things and i feel that my device is getting some kind of botttle neck.
Sorry about the english.
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Did you down clock your CPU? If not, it's probably an issue with the emulated PSP ROM. You can play around with the emulator's render settings to try and get smoother game play but I am no expert on the subject.
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Did you down clock your CPU? If not, it's probably an issue with the emulated PSP ROM. You can play around with the emulator's render settings to try and get smoother game play but I am no expert on the subject.
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Never.....my Phone is all Stock. And CPU -Z says it is in On the demand governor. The emulator does support a incrediblle variety of multi threaded process like inputs and process. These features are optional and when i turn the process multithread on, it slow down a litle more. i believe that it occurs because of the limitation of the 2 cores and the Android not allowing it to use the others. The emulator have a version for PC. The same emulator does multithread on my I3 Quad core 3.1GHz.
Since I got mine early I can post some
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seems like SD845 will be much faster this year
Reviews:
https://gizmodo.com/samsung-galaxy-s9-review-the-best-android-phone-dont-n-1823575944
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/08/galaxy-s9-review-rival-to-the-iphone-x.html
https://www.theverge.com/2018/3/8/17093588/samsung-galaxy-s9-plus-phone-review
https://www.engadget.com/2018/03/08/samsung-galaxy-s9-and-s9-plus-review-video/
https://www.tomsguide.com/us/galaxy-s9-plus,review-5198.html
You can also check your chip bin by going through the download mode. Mine is all 10 out of 15 I guess
Thanks for the information. What names you say snapdragon will be faster this year?
That battery life indication isn't realistic at all after all those benchmarks. Should be much better when using normally.
This year thought this phone is boring me. Mine comes tomorrow but i feel dead about it. Will probably go back unless battery surprises me in a good way
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Thanks for the information. What names you say snapdragon will be faster this year?
That battery life indication isn't realistic at all after all those benchmarks. Should be much better when using normally.
This year thought this phone is boring me. Mine comes tomorrow but i feel dead about it. Will probably go back unless battery surprises me in a good way
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Well here's a fresh one from this morning, mind you I still haven't put my sim card so it's only wifi usage
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Well here's a fresh one from this morning, mind you I still haven't put my sim card so it's only wifi usage
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That scared me for a moment! Damn. But then I saw always on display in on. That's a battery hog I never use, on my mate 10 at 90% battery left I'm on about 1hr 20 minutes screen on time lol
There could be hope for the s9 plus yet. Thanks for updating
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That scared me for a moment! Damn. But then I saw always on display in on. That's a battery hog I never use, on my mate 10 at 90% battery left I'm on about 1hr 20 minutes screen on time lol
There could be hope for the s9 plus yet. Thanks for updating
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yep i usually dont use AOD but since i was busy benchmarking and some other stuff didnt tune the phone to my likings yet and AOD will definetly be off
looks like the NDA is up, reviews are flooding in for US/SD845 units
So first full charge today looks alright as it's the same usage I had on my s8 in the beginning minus AOD.
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Ok so here's my first full charging cycle results
Now here's another shot with 4G only and exact same set up and apps as before. Aod on all the time. I turned airplane mode on @2am then off @8am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKq6r2QggMk
Always preferred the Exynos and this guy has the qualifications to know what he's talking about. If anything it looks like they may under-clock the Exynos to the Snapdragon can keep up
They did under lock it but I think it's because of the battery/power consumption. When the device was tested on geekbench before the launch, lowest frequency was clocked at 1.9 and highest at 2.9 they lowered them by 200mhz each but it reached 9250 on those values. I think we will unlock them when custom kernels show up
Having various mixed results..
Still better then the SD version, not sure why the OP said it will be the opposite this year.
Savoury said:
Having various mixed results..
Still better then the SD version, not sure why the OP said it will be the opposite this year.
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Again look at other benchmarks ie gfxbench, webxprt speedometer etc
Well, theres a known scheduler bug, which maybe/not will be fixed with the upcoming March update. This should fix these problems.
@AndreiLux is looking at it maybe he will find something or maybe he won't we'll see. I didn't get the march update yet.
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seems like SD845 will be much faster this year
Reviews:
https://gizmodo.com/samsung-galaxy-s9-review-the-best-android-phone-dont-n-1823575944
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/08/galaxy-s9-review-rival-to-the-iphone-x.html
https://www.theverge.com/2018/3/8/17093588/samsung-galaxy-s9-plus-phone-review
https://www.engadget.com/2018/03/08/samsung-galaxy-s9-and-s9-plus-review-video/
https://www.tomsguide.com/us/galaxy-s9-plus,review-5198.html
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I'm not sure if maybe I'm misunderstanding something or not --- but aI thought all the talk was about what a giant step forward the Exynos device new processor was supposed to be -- thus making the Exynos far out perform the Snap this year ??
It is twice as fast as in single core performance and 10-20% faster than the sd845 in CPU but GPU is underwhelming maybe it will be fixed by a software
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@AndreiLux is looking at it maybe he will find something or maybe he won't we'll see. I didn't get the march update yet.
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I have the March Security Patch Update.
Seems it's still not fixed
Guess it's a governor bug or the Exynos is borked.
Im really unsatisfied with my s22ultra ive done everything i know or people suggested and nothing helped i think next time i go xiaomi or apple. Thats it
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After looking pictures of all these threads you made about this problem it's looks like pretty normal. There is no phone in the world that doesn't drain battery if you doing something with it. Apps drain battery and games drain even more battery.
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Real bad battery
Im having performance issues along with battery drainage. Snapdragon 8gen1
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Battery sucks
Did anyone found a way to get more battery from the s22 ultra i get like 3h sot . Today it went from 85 to 60 in 40min i was playing a game but thats was really quick .. i rather buy an iphone just for the battery and performance. But i really...
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The problem is the SOC is inefficient because of Samsung fabs poor 4nm manufacturing node (both Exynos and Snapdragon were manufactured on this node). Nothing will help, it'll take the S23u with TSMC manufacturing the new SOCs to get good battery life.
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Im really unsatisfied with my s22ultra ive done everything i know or people suggested and nothing helped i think next time i go xiaomi or apple. Thats it
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If you're not satisfied with S22Ultra you won't be satisfied either with Xiaomi or any other brand, ESPECIALLY Xiaomi and their garbage OS.
Your usage seems pretty normal and the fact that you have DUAL sims and play games, your battery looks fine. NONE phone will provide drastically more power with this kind of usage.
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After looking pictures of all these threads you made about this problem it's looks like pretty normal. There is no phone in the world that doesn't drain battery if you doing something with it. Apps drain battery and games drain even more battery.
Previous threads.
Real bad battery
Im having performance issues along with battery drainage. Snapdragon 8gen1
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Battery sucks
Did anyone found a way to get more battery from the s22 ultra i get like 3h sot . Today it went from 85 to 60 in 40min i was playing a game but thats was really quick .. i rather buy an iphone just for the battery and performance. But i really...
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I get 8 to 9h sot with the 13 pro max same or even more heavy usage i tried 60 hz 720p and i get 5hsot max
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If you're not satisfied with S22Ultra you won't be satisfied either with Xiaomi or any other brand, ESPECIALLY Xiaomi and their garbage OS.
Your usage seems pretty normal and the fact that you have DUAL sims and play games, your battery looks fine. NONE phone will provide drastically more power with this kind of usage.
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I get 8 to 9h sot with the 13 pro max same or even more heavy usage i tried 60 hz 720p and i get 5hsot max ..... they say the 12s ultra can get alot more battery or maybe even the new pixel 7pro
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I get 8 to 9h sot with the 13 pro max same or even more heavy usage i tried 60 hz 720p and i get 5hsot max ..... they say the 12s ultra can get alot more battery or maybe even the new pixel 7pro
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Do you use DUAL SIM in your 13 Pro Max? (Rhetorical question).
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Do you use DUAL SIM in your 13 Pro Max? (Rhetorical question).
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Its 1 sim . Plus i used to use my s22 ultra with only one i got the new sim last month or so
I also feel like the battery it's the biggest problem of this phone . Everything else it's good for me , except for some hy temperature sometimes with it's random but mostly when it's hot outside.
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I also feel like the battery it's the biggest problem of this phone . Everything else it's good for me , except for some hy temperature sometimes with it's random but mostly when it's hot outside.
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Watch this, it explains why. The TSMC SOCs in the s23 series should fix it but the s22 series is not good for efficiency .https://youtu.be/s0ukXDnWlTY
Thank you. Now I know the problem. But also I still don't really understand why it's taking so much battery while it's in stad by ... like the cpu should not be in use then right? I love this phone but this battery it's just awful... anyway thank you for the video. It was useful
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Thank you. Now I know the problem. But also I still don't really understand why it's taking so much battery while it's in stad by ... like the cpu should not be in use then right? I love this phone but this battery it's just awful... anyway thank you for the video. It was useful
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To my shock today i dont know how but just happened...... plus i never have temperature issue
Next time go Poco No use in overpaying for performance when it's not backed up by a good battery. Also... Samsung, with their well known battery issues. No, thank you. Take that advice as you wish.
Tomo123 , I don't even belive what I see there I think maybe you can make this when you let your phone at home and not using it
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To my shock today i dont know how but just happened...... plus i never have temperature issue
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I have always goof battery with the Samsung phones at the beginning like 2 -3 mounts it last like 5-6 hours of screen on time and like 20 hours of stand by , but after this period it's just too awful maximum 3-4 hours with maximum 6-8 hours of stand by I think that it's not even making it 20 hours only with stand by but I don't know why exactly it's this happening
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Tomo123 , I don't even belive what I see there I think maybe you can make this when you let your phone at home and not using it
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My dear man, I really don't care if you believe it or not. It just goes to show you have no idea on how to properly optimize the phone you are using. But I am not here to spoon-feed you, learn it yourself... or live in ignorance. Your choice. Have a nice day.
The problem is the kernel not the cpu fab. A quick simple watch of the cpu frequency behavior shows this with ZERO hot plugging and to high idle frequency. I'm not talking how the old hotplug governor was. I'm talking when you turn the screen off the cpus don't hotplug and don't go under 600mhz 4 core. Very very bad for better life and simply fixing this will make the phone last loads longer for standby and adding hotpluging with lower 200mhz idle till screen touch then ramp to 600mhz will add loads of screen on time. I'm not surprised this is forgotten in a world of root is bad but back in the evo3D days you could pm power=0 and get 30 days on a hotplug governor. It's there, we just need custom kernel or Samsung (very unlikely) to fix said issues
In the S22 series, while Snapdragon variant doesn't have great batterylife, the Exynos variant is even worse.
And to improve the endurance, there are 100's of threads that will help to give you some relief. That's all.
I'm facing overheating issues while using video call on my pixel 7 pro. So scare for this temperature 45*C while doing video call. My old pixel 4xl has no issue so far, still working fine.
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Mine is at 35c in my pocket with the screen off listening to music. Battery draining like crazy.
Damn it.. so my old pixel 6 pro always over heated and I just purchased a pro 7 was hoping it wasn't over heating and well
Gotta wait for the pixel 12 pro
Over what? 36C* is not over. At least no visible throttling.. winter is coming
I must be good then. I'm at 29.8C while using my phone
A factory reset solved my problem with overheating and draining the battery.
The only video calls I use are WhatsApp, which I've done a few of on this phone. I've noticed they result in a slight increase in temperature, but no more than 38/39 degrees after about 10 minutes.
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Mine is at 35c in my pocket with the screen off listening to music. Battery draining like crazy.
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Normal usages is OK, battery temperature is around 38C, overheat happen while doing video call...
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A factory reset solved my problem with overheating and draining the battery.
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I did factory reset, but I need to migrate all of my data from my old pixel4 xl, but it still happen overheat
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Gotta wait for the pixel 12 pro
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No, this one is my last Pixel , I have been used Pixel 2XL and 4XL so far all ok and the camera is awesome, but this Pixel 7 Pro is overheating
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I did factory reset, but I need to migrate all of my data from my old pixel4 xl, but it still happen overheat
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After the factory reset I made a clean instal of everything. I only migrate some videos with nearby function. Maybe you should try a clean instal without migrating your stuff first.
I just unlocked my Bootloader, setting things up and this phone is hot as hell. Hot enough that the Flash is disabled
My Pixel 6 Pro used to hit 45c if you broke wind and it heard you, thankfully my Pixel 7 Pro does run significantly cooler but video calling does seem to be a bit of an Achilles' heel of Tensor. Video calling however does push the radios, the camera and the processor so it is going to heat up innit and if 45C was too hot the phone would shut its self off in self preservation so is it really anything to worry about?
I am not saying this is the same with Tensor but the latests Ryzen processors are designed to hit a thermal limit rather than a power limit so they instantly hit 95C under load where as previously 95C was an absolute no no, you're going to kill the CPU so don't go there, maybe this is just the way forwards.
MrBelter said:
My Pixel 6 Pro used to hit 45c if you broke wind and it heard you, thankfully my Pixel 7 Pro does run significantly cooler but video calling does seem to be a bit of an Achilles' heel of Tensor. Video calling however does push the radios, the camera and the processor so it is going to heat up innit and if 45C was too hot the phone would shut its self off in self preservation so is it really anything to worry about?
I am not saying this is the same with Tensor but the latests Ryzen processors are designed to hit a thermal limit rather than a power limit so they instantly hit 95C under load where as previously 95C was an absolute no no, you're going to kill the CPU so don't go there, maybe this is just the way forwards.
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The problem is the battery can't really exceed 45C without starting to degrade. And obviously it wouldn't be possible to hold a phone that was dissipating 95C worth of heat through the body lol.
That said, I did a video call today on Zoom for an hour and the phone didn't heat up even as much as my old 12 Pro Max did. I checked AccuBattery and the battery was around 38C which is like 1-3 degrees more than the normal usage scenario I've been experiencing and far from being concerning.
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The problem is the battery can't really exceed 45C without starting to degrade. And obviously it wouldn't be possible to hold a phone that was dissipating 95C worth of heat through the body lol.
That said, I did a video call today on Zoom for an hour and the phone didn't heat up even as much as my old 12 Pro Max did. I checked AccuBattery and the battery was around 38C which is like 1-3 degrees more than the normal usage scenario I've been experiencing and far from being concerning.
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Thing is the P6P hit 45C as regular as the tides without worldwide outcry of the phone or battery being damaged, you just had a lot of people (generally in very hot countries) saying my phone is too hot and i have not really done anything, it is hitting 45c all the time and my camera flash has been turned off.
Mine used to hit 45C just sat in my pocket when i was outside in the summer and i am in the UK where at 25C everyone is melting and moaning they cannot stand this intense heat while the rest of the world laughs at us for flapping on a warm day.
45C seems to be a magic number, it is always 45C and you very rarely see it go higher, 45C sounds like a thermal limit to me and maybe just like Ryzen this is how Tensor is set to run, hit the thermal limit first to maximise processor efficiency.
Of course i am probably very wrong as this is all speculation on my part, the reality is Tensor just runs hot like the Exynos processors it is based on I'd have thought.
My brother-in-law has a Pixel 6 Pro, and when I showed him my 7 Pro on a family gathering last weekend the first thing he asked about was the heat levels. He said he loves the 6 Pro, but the overheating on it is ridiculous. He said the phone was basically unusable when we went through a heatwave in the UK here a few months back were 40c was hit in a couple of locations.
My experience of the 7 Pro so far (I've had it just under 2 weeks) is 95% of the time it will sit between 30c and 35c in normal use, and occasionally tip towards 39/40 if you do something which stresses it. I've had it go over 40c on one occasion but that was after 4-5 reboots in 5-10 minutes when I was messing around with various settings after rooting it. Overall it's been more than reasonable for me.
I also strongly recommend sticking the CPU governor on schedutil.
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I also strongly recommend sticking the CPU governor on schedutil.
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May I ask why and what is the differences in your case?
Ky0sHiR0 said:
May I ask why and what is the differences in your case?
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Once activated I found my phone spent more time closer to 30c than it did 35c under normal use. And for what I use the phone for I noticed no performance hit, although that might differ for others.
It's also worth pointing out that, phone SOCs, like other silicon, can differ in quality. So one 7 Pro could run a task with the CPU at 33c and another seemingly identical phone run it a degree or two higher or lower.
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Once activated I found my phone spent more time closer to 30c than it did 35c under normal use. And for what I use the phone for I noticed no performance hit, although that might differ for others.
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Are You using any custom kernel or just default one?
For the 7 pro? I have the US unlocked varient and it doesn't seem as warm as it once did. Jan update may have fixed it.
What build number is the Jan update?
My AT&T Pixel 7 Pro (not sure if it's unlocked) was updated yesterday (Jan 3). It currently has build number TQ1A.230105.002, with Android security update January 5, 2023.
31 C... after jan update - mb normal
dutch_in_seattle said:
My AT&T Pixel 7 Pro (not sure if it's unlocked) was updated yesterday (Jan 3). It currently has build number TQ1A.230105.002, with Android security update January 5, 2023.
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Thanks, was asking because I didn't get it, but then I realized I'm on the beta channel
My 7 Pro has never had a heating issue.
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What program is that?
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What program is that?
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Battery Guru.
Cheers had forgotten about this one
The heating issues for my device were fixed after the December feature drop
Wish they would fix battery..Only get 4 1/2 hours sot
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Wish they would fix battery..Only get 4 1/2 hours sot
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It's just YOUR usage pattern and the apps you use. I'm getting double that, and many people much more than you.
Nothing is really broken with the "battery", it's just your own usage pattern.
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It's just YOUR usage pattern and the apps you use. I'm getting double that, and many people much more than you.
Nothing is really broken with the "battery", it's just your own usage pattern.
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That's not entirely true. "Not supported" countries get LTE/4G battery drain, no 4G for call, even blocked 5G by google, blocked baseband frequencies based on location. Even people from supported "offcial" locations reported lack of 4g/5g while traveling to another country. Maybe the battery itself isn't a problem, but basic optimization and menagement is. My patterns did not change, nor did the apps while switching from a 5000mAh medium range phone to google flagship. Hell, I even gamed more on my previous Poco. Now I can't nt get 10h standby and messenger mixed use while at work, cause the battery drains to 5%. Nothing like that happens over Wifi or 3g (can still use messenger on 3g), the usage time goes up like 3 times. Measured. So don't tell us there isn't a problem.
And if you wanted values, some battery meters showed as much as 1400 mAh peak drain while watching a youtube video at work on 4g (i have 5g blocked by google), just scrolling through Instagram gave me 890-1100mAh drain while heating my phone, where this value drops to 400-500mAh drain doing the same on Wifi. Idle messenger is like 320 mAh drain over Wifi, at least 900 over LTE. This seems good to you?
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That's not entirely true. "Not supported" countries get LTE/4G battery drain, no 4G for call, even blocked 5G by google, blocked baseband frequencies based on location. Even people from supported "offcial" locations reported lack of 4g/5g while traveling to another country. Maybe the battery itself isn't a problem, but basic optimization and menagement is. My patterns did not change, nor did the apps while switching from a 5000mAh medium range phone to google flagship. Hell, I even gamed more on my previous Poco. Now I can't nt get 10h standby and messenger mixed use while at work, cause the battery drains to 5%. Nothing like that happens over Wifi or 3g (can still use messenger on 3g), the usage time goes up like 3 times. Measured. So don't tell us there isn't a problem.
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Oh my...
You're one of those that think switching from a mid-range phone to a "high-end" one will suddenly provide them a better battery life.
You do realize that mid-range phones have "much" weaker SOC that consumes less power overall?
Very often the same case is with the display too, lower resolution display, and lower display brightness than flagship screens (very often even lower refresh rate display), and there is a bunch of other things that make a mid-range phone superior when it comes to battery life.
The fact that you even expected a better battery life by switching to a device that has a SOC that EATS power unlike a SOC in a mid-range explains everything.
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Oh my...
You're one of those that think switching from a mid-range phone to a "high-end" one will suddenly provide them a better battery life.
You do realize that mid-range phones have "much" weaker SOC that consumes less power overall?
Very often the same case is with the display too, lower resolution display, and lower display brightness than flagship screens (very often even lower refresh rate display), and there is a bunch of other things that make a mid-range phone superior when it comes to longer battery life.
The fact that you even expected a better battery life by switching to a device that has a SOC that EATS power unlike a SOC in a mid-range explains everything.
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And you would be exactly correct, weren't the fact that the battery drain and heating stops, once the phone switches to wifi performing the same tasks. I gave you the numbers, but you seem to not read them with understanding. Are you telling me that LTE overheating the phone and max 10 hours of mixed use on a charge doing messenger and instagram is equivalent to 20 hours of the same on Wifi? If that's the case, we don't actually need flagship phones, we can just go with a Snapdragon 732G or 870 mid/mid-high range chinase phones that can withstand everything during normal daily use.
Dude my Pixel drains 12-14% battery an hour while steaming music over LTE with screen off, while draining 3-4% an hour streaming Tidal on 3g.
Writing this post on LTE made my phone hot.
This isn't normal, wether you like it or not.
Edit: also, the Tensor G2 isn't exactly that hi-end of a chip, benchmarking it put like where? Snap 870? Oh and based on Samsung's OVERHEATING Exynos line. Which Google didn't quite mention untill recently. And don't come here with that "ooo, you're one of those people who..." attitude. I know my tech. I know when tech is good or tech is bad, flagship or not. And yes, I do expect better overall performance in any given case, including at least similar or close to battery life as on a higher mid -range, you know why? Cause people payed close to a 1000 bucks to get a top tier phone. And Google came lacking.
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It's just YOUR usage pattern and the apps you use. I'm getting double that, and many people much more than you.
Nothing is really broken with the "battery", it's just your own usage pattern.
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Bro I barely use the phone ...No Twitter no social media , a little utube and music ..I have one game ...No emails ...10 minutes of calling and 10 text a day
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And you would be exactly correct, weren't the fact that the battery drain and heating stops, once the phone switches to wifi performing the same tasks. I gave you the numbers, but you seem to not read them with understanding. Are you telling me that LTE overheating the phone and max 10 hours of mixed use on a charge doing messenger and instagram is equivalent to 20 hours of the same on Wifi? If that's the case, we don't actually need flagship phones, we can just go with a Snapdragon 732G or 870 mid/mid-high range chinase phones that can withstand everything during normal daily use.
Dude my Pixel drains 12-14% battery an hour while steaming music over LTE with screen off, while draining 3-4% an hour streaming Tidal on 3g.
Writing this post on LTE made my phone hot.
This isn't normal, wether you like it or not.
Edit: also, the Tensor G2 isn't exactly that hi-end of a chip, benchmarking it put like where? Snap 870? Oh and based on Samsung's OVERHEATING Exynos line. Which Google didn't quite mention untill recently. And don't come here with that "ooo, you're one of those people who..." attitude. I know my tech. I know when tech is good or tech is bad, flagship or not. And yes, I do expect better overall performance in any given case, including at least similar or close to battery life as on a higher mid -range, you know why? Cause people payed close to a 1000 bucks to get a top tier phone. And Google came lacking.
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Yes, the whole issue IS THE TENSOR G2. While it barely offers the CPU performance of the 865-70 (GPU is somewhat "decent"), it eats twice as much power. It's EXTREMELY inefficient and performs well below many other "flagship" SOCs while it consumes more power than those.
How much you pay for the phone doesn't automatically grant you a PREMIUM battery life. It may grant you a "premium" performance...
If you know the TECH that well, you would understand why buying a flagship device will never give you the "best" battery life, no matter how much you pay for the device. The reasons behind it is already mentioned in my previous reply. FACT.
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entirely true. "Not supported" countries get LTE/4G battery drain
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Sorry but this seems with no proof at all
I get the VoLTE/VoWiFi/5G things, which are indeed limited by Google
Not the "sabotage", even because on an unsupported MVNO the battery consumption was mostly the same as the host network
My P7P has run much, much cooler than my P6P ever did, it's never run hot.
It will only get hot for few minutes after the update. Your phone is indexing your file and optimising system app due to update. Those two process use a lot of CPU.
After it's done the phone should run normally. No Heat issue on mine. Unless i open the stupid youtube music which somehow use way too much cpu power