I have always wonder, how well dose android leverage multi core SOCS? I know from being a PC hardware geek that most developers are terrible and using all the power in multi core CPU's. I understand that in benches all the cores are used, but how often are task spread out over the cores in real life usage. My theory is that they are barely used yet I have no evidence to promote this.
Depends on the governor settings but they definitely use all cores a lot by default.
Install system monitor lite and see for yourself
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Depends on the governor settings but they definitely use all cores a lot by default.
Install system monitor lite and see for yourself
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Do you think this would scale well onto the 8 core SOCS? I was just wondering if they really offered good real life performance rather than just good benchmarks
Gipjoe said:
I have always wonder, how well dose android leverage multi core SOCS? I know from being a PC hardware geek that most developers are terrible and using all the power in multi core CPU's. I understand that in benches all the cores are used, but how often are task spread out over the cores in real life usage. My theory is that they are barely used yet I have no evidence to promote this.
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Weird. I was just wondering this myself, mainly because I just dont know what kind of specs it would take to have me use something other than my N5 and I am a phone-whore.
There aren't many tasks that need more than 2 cores active at a time. Gaming is one of the few times a 3rd core will kick in from what I've seen.
Traditionally, encoding benefits a lot from multiple cores but that isn't a task people usually attempt on their mobile.
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There aren't many tasks that need more than 2 cores active at a time. Gaming is one of the few times a 3rd core will kick in from what I've seen.
Traditionally, encoding benefits a lot from multiple cores but that isn't a task people usually attempt on their mobile.
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You said that it will trigger the third core while gaming. I have a Nexus 5 and it lags in a specific have game. Idon't think my Nexus is trigering all the cores as it happens on my PC with the same application. On pc All cores goes to 90% as i don't have a graphics card. On Nexus i can't get the game to run on 100% even when i drop down all the quality over performance. I know that the device can handle this game. It's just a bootle neckle a believe. It's running stock rom stock kernle On demand governor. It should trigger all the cores.....i'm very sad with that too as i have bought the device manly for use like this.
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You said that it will trigger the third core while gaming. I have a Nexus 5 and it lags in a specific have game. Idon't think my Nexus is trigering all the cores as it happens on my PC with the same application. On pc All cores goes to 90% as i don't have a graphics card. On Nexus i can't get the game to run on 100% even when i drop down all the quality over performance. I know that the device can handle this game. It's just a bootle neckle a believe. It's running stock rom stock kernle On demand governor. It should trigger all the cores.....i'm very sad with that too as i have bought the device manly for use like this.
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Which game are you talking about? Once the phone starts heating up within about 20-30minutes it will begin to thermal throttle the CPU cores and clock speeds.
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Which game are you talking about? Once the phone starts heating up within about 20-30minutes it will begin to thermal throttle the CPU cores and clock speeds.
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I'm talking about Digimon Adventure (1.5GB rom) on PPSSPP it's not the only game that i'm having this problem. And i'm pretty sure that nexus is not "taking it serious". From the beggning of the game you can see it already laggin. When i zoom out and the back ground bacames large it goes around to 50% when have about 6 NPCs on the screen it hapens too. When battling its pretty unstable. Some times ti can take up to 200% and some time to 90 again on the same screen in 3 seconds just changing the perpective of the camera.
@update i have take the screenshots from system monitor.
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I'm talking about Digimon Adventure (1.5GB rom) on PPSSPP it's not the only game that i'm having this problem. And i'm pretty sure that nexus is not "taking it serious". From the beggning of the game you can see it already laggin. When i zoom out and the back ground bacames large it goes around to 50% when have about 6 NPCs on the screen it hapens too. When battling its pretty unstable. Some times ti can take up to 200% and some time to 90 again onde the same screen in 3 seconds just changing the perpective of the camera.
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That's an issue with the ROM and emulation. It's very common for emulated games to have frame rate issues and you probably need to play around with the render settings. Nothing to do with our phone specifically, check other forums for more advice on the subject.
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That's an issue with the ROM and emulation. It's very common for emulated games to have frame rate issues and you probably need to play around with the render settings. Nothing to do with our phone specifically, check other forums for more advice on the subject.
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See the images above. My cpu goes only to maximium of 50% on the emulator. I have been playng other things and i feel that my device is getting some kind of botttle neck.
Sorry about the english.
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See the images above. My cpu goes only to maximium of 50% on the emulator. I have been playng other things and i feel that my device is getting some kind of botttle neck.
Sorry about the english.
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Did you down clock your CPU? If not, it's probably an issue with the emulated PSP ROM. You can play around with the emulator's render settings to try and get smoother game play but I am no expert on the subject.
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Did you down clock your CPU? If not, it's probably an issue with the emulated PSP ROM. You can play around with the emulator's render settings to try and get smoother game play but I am no expert on the subject.
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Never.....my Phone is all Stock. And CPU -Z says it is in On the demand governor. The emulator does support a incrediblle variety of multi threaded process like inputs and process. These features are optional and when i turn the process multithread on, it slow down a litle more. i believe that it occurs because of the limitation of the 2 cores and the Android not allowing it to use the others. The emulator have a version for PC. The same emulator does multithread on my I3 Quad core 3.1GHz.
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*Added a setting for charging that is 100/1400 conservative with a priority above everything except the heat one. so like 91 heat and 89 charging.
Seems stable, zippy and doesn't kill the battery too fast. All good.
Nobleskill
UPDATE: the settings above worked a treat for me on froyo but after updating to gingerbread I found it was back to the old drawing board time. For whatever reason, and being fair to Samsung and gingerbread by saying that the tab is now older and been used and abused its whole life, I wasn't able to apply the same level of undervolting without lockups and rebooted.
Why? Well could be a few reasons, the one mentioned above I really think plays a part in it. I also think though that gb is just different. Obvious I know but I mean its different at a base operating level. It needs new bootloaders and as alot of the experienced developers currently doing the tab gb stuff I think are finding its got a few curveballs its very happy to throw into the mix. The other point is that the control app has been updated dramatically with new ui and a more polished look to the outside which I think also follows into the coding. Xan, the developer must be a very talented individual and is pioneering the CPU control at kernel level IMO and really deserves our support. You can get the fee apk but I think its worth a donation just for the free version.
I notice the newer kernels are also having preset UV settings which is awesome. Gives you a base to build on and as each tab is different, yours may not go as low in volts as little Johnny's tab but it may go further than big Bob's one, it provides a good starting point. Or whatever..
Jump on over here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=943669
This guy is my favourite developer evar! Very friendly, very talented and shares <3. Read this thread as much as you can, its brilliant and has a few gems hidden in the posts. Also the kernel's are basically on the cutting edge. Its this guys patches that find their way to other, and all I'm pretty sure, kernels and roms.
thanks a lot buddy ! I was really looking for this !!!!!! you're my hero !!!!
Your most welcome mate. Any issues make sure and let me know through this thread.
Nobleskill
Ps. Watch how big a difference it makes to battery drain with screen off and below 30. I keep thinking it will die before I get a charger and like 4 hours later its only gone down by about 10 percent.
As always, support the Dev's if your able to. They richly deserve it and it doesn't have to be much to make a difference. )
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Your most welcome mate. Any issues make sure and let me know through this thread.
Nobleskill
Ps. Watch how big a difference it makes to battery drain with screen off and below 30. I keep thinking it will die before I get a charger and like 4 hours later its only gone down by about 10 percent.
As always, support the Dev's if your able to. They richly deserve it and it doesn't have to be much to make a difference. )
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there is a problem regarding those settings. did you try to restart the Tab after? mine doesn't start at all ! I should try several times to keep pressing the power button and then, after few minutes it starts again. after uninstalling the Set CPU and Voltage Control, everything comes to normal.....any advice?
SetCPU seems to be very crashy on the SGT. You might want to try not decreasing the voltages quite as much, some CPUs can't cope with it. I've got mine set even lower and I'm fine.
The "performance" governor locks the speed at the "max" value, the "powersave" one locks it at the "min" value. It's a pity that the "Ondemand" and "Interactive" governors seem to be so unstable as either would be better for performance than "Conservative".
I've also got another profile for "Charging" which ramps everything up a bit.
One thing I have noticed after spending some time in here is that all SGT's are not created equal!! I have no issues with the settings above, none at all. It boots fine, runs super fast with 2200 being the average score in quad. And I am on my second day without charging... its been lighter usage but still....
I guess I got lucky but all I can say is trial and error, or search for a simillar problem with another user and ask what settings if any worked for them. My thinking is that there would be batches that will run one way and others that won't.
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One thing I have noticed after spending some time in here is that all SGT's are not created equal!! I have no issues with the settings above, none at all. It boots fine, runs super fast with 2200 being the average score in quad. And I am on my second day without charging... its been lighter usage but still....
I guess I got lucky but all I can say is trial and error, or search for a simillar problem with another user and ask what settings if any worked for them. My thinking is that there would be batches that will run one way and others that won't.
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Its the CPU. They all have different tolerances on the minimum they can run at. Samsung just uses a voltage that guarantees all of them will work at. I've decreased everything 800mhz and up to -200mv. So far so good.
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there is a problem regarding those settings. did you try to restart the Tab after? mine doesn't start at all ! I should try several times to keep pressing the power button and then, after few minutes it starts again. after uninstalling the Set CPU and Voltage Control, everything comes to normal.....any advice?
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Try install jus UV & set the limit to 1400ghz. Run it for a day or two.
I have problem with SetCPU, give up on it. So now i only have UV installed.
thanks for the settings, no problems since 1 day
Sorry for stupid question, Am I need to flash kernel for 1400ghz? Or just use SetCPU with overcome 1.0 karnel?
Since there are some karnel said they are for 1.4ghz so I am confusing on it, tks!
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Sorry for stupid question, Am I need to flash kernel for 1400ghz? Or just use SetCPU with overcome 1.0 karnel?
Since there are some karnel said they are for 1.4ghz so I am confusing on it, tks!
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If the kernel does not support >1ghz, then setcpu cannot set the speed to anything higher.
The overcome kernel supports an overlock of 1.2 and 1.4Ghz.
Overcome Kernel 1.0 is an overclock kernel. Just install setcpu to oc
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Seems stable, zippy and doesn't kill the battery too fast. All good.
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with the settings above do you have it set up as "Save as boot settings"? i had set mine at bfq and limit clock to 1200mhz and not changing anything else saving it as boot but when i went to restart the tab it got stuck on the Galaxy Tab screen, i had to re-store my backup in order for the tab to re-start.
also how did you get the 600mhz:?-100=?mv?
i am using richardtrip's [Kernel] [EURO] [1.4ghz OC/UV] MCR EXT4 compatible/Voodoo Sound V15 22/02 hope that helps with what i am asking.
I gave up on Set Cpu and switched to Cpu Tuner, a choise I don't regret at all.
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Recently changed to overcome kernel 2.0 and have changed to bfq. All stiull running smoothly.
And yeah i have mine all set to set at boot.
Thanks! Was looking for this.
I copied your settings to the last detail (bfq scheduler) and my Tab is crashing.
Now I am trying with lower UV.
braby said:
I copied your settings to the last detail (bfq scheduler) and my Tab is crashing.
Now I am trying with lower UV.
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Sorry buddy its been ages I should probably update this. I find that overcome has gottan alot better I still use the same undervolting but no profiles on set CPU. Just set to 100 min and1400 Max ondemand. I can use bfq and have no issues but one thing I know for sure, and I think it was even stated in this thread, no 2 of these are the same... same deal with more strain on the CPU than others so if my settings didn't work for you I'm sorry for that but all I can suggest is what I did to find the right setting... experiment, trial and error...
Best of luck,
Nobleskill
I found out what I did wrong...on Screen Off profile I didn't set "Performance" scaling, instead I did "Conservative"...the Tab was only crashing when screen was off!
Now that I switched it to performance it works just fine...
Using Overcome 1.4.2...
What's has better battery life, now that you have experience with both, with the profiles mentioned above or "On Demand" with no profiles?
That's a tough one as I use my tab a whole heap more and for many more things. I have 3 times as Widgets and so on... put it this way I used to get 2 days with low to moderate use on the setting in this thread, now with extremely heavy usage, I'm talking 8 hours or more almost straight with web browsing, ebooks, video, music, news ect...
I like my new set up cause its alot easier to configure and I find the most important aspect to battery life is the undervolting... overcrowded seems to handle the just fine. The only other thing I really swear by is an app like juice defender or battery boost.. set them up and its turning things off when not used which can be massive...
Hope this has helped and I'm happy to hear you sorted the crash issue.
Nobleskill
Many years looking the same... but now antutu is completely redesigned and looks really nice.
You can now compare chipsets performance also ...
I know that lot's of people don't like it but many others do... I do!
Have a look... I bet you'll all like the new antutu...
I scored 69k at first test using Mokee
Just to let you know
41k on sMIUI 12.3
69K?! O.O
You make me want to try Mokee
44k on my overly crowded sMIUI. Looking at LG G4 score, we should be able to reach that point so 69k is the expected score.
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44k on my overly crowded sMIUI. Looking at LG G4 score, we should be able to reach that point so 69k is the expected score.
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your sMiui must be really messy...
got that on mine -
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your sMiui must be really messy...
got that on mine -
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Not sMIUI fault I believe, when it was still virgin I can manage 5Xk too on antutu 5. With aqua mail (3 accounts), facebook, hangouts, line, path, twitter, plurk, slack, whatsapp and many other background apps, it's hard to reach that score back.
Stable chinese MIUI rom 7.0.7.0, rooted and greenified. Managed 68500.
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66 668. I would prefer 2 points less
On sMiUI 12.10 my phone scored 65k. Forgot to take screenshot.
As States before... 69k on my Mokee... But... It is more 70k than 69... Anyway, what a machine
Ooops... 70K... Getting better! Now with a few more apps installed... So I guess it has to do with the ROM... The apps you have installed have nothing to do with antutu score i guess... Just saying...
Getting 47858 on CM12 on charger without restarting :/
Resetting and running in Airplane mode gave me 42k on charger
Running again without a charger gave me 58119...
Restarted again, ran on battery got 60070...hmmm
On charger phone got higher temps, and there is throttling.
grant_ said:
Getting 47858 on CM12 on charger without restarting :/
Resetting and running in Airplane mode gave me 42k on charger
Running again without a charger gave me 58119...
Restarted again, ran on battery got 60070...hmmm
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Our device will get slower when it's hot due to thermal throttling, the thermal engine controls both CPU and GPU. When charging, especially when it's over 60%, the temperature will reach a high value that may exceed the threshold imposed by the thermal engine. Thus, either the core speed will be clocked down (CPU0-3 max 600, CPU4-5 max 864) or they will be totally off. Same with GPU (max 300 when hot, 600 when normal). I think Xiaomi didn't notice that many of its customers live in the equator lines where the temperature is generally warm to hot (25-35) so the threshold values will be reached much sooner than those who use the phone in norther or souther area.
It's true... But in this version of antutu the scores dont get uch a diferente after 2 or 3 tests... In previous version I used to get 57k, then 54k and then 50k... In this version I get 70k, 69k and then 69k again... Not much of a diference in results after heating... Why would this happen? I never get less than 69k
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It's true... But in this version of antutu the scores dont get uch a diferente after 2 or 3 tests... In previous version I used to get 57k, then 54k and then 50k... In this version I get 70k, 69k and then 69k again... Not much of a diference in results after heating... Why would this happen? I never get less than 69k
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Maybe you need to put more background apps to your phone as I do
Having a screenshot of Android Assistant (both Monitoring and Processes tabs) might help the analysis.
Around 70k is a very bad score I must say, for our hardware.
On last Antutu I got 59k score and for example my friends Iphone 6s had 57k.
Now I'm getting 69k, and he is getting 120k scores.....
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Around 70k is a very bad score I must say, for our hardware.
On last Antutu I got 59k score and for example my friends Iphone 6s had 57k.
Now I'm getting 69k, and he is getting 120k scores.....
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TBH, that's not bad since you can buy FOUR Mi4C for an iPhone 6s. Twister Core in Apple A9 is the best single core processor to date (which Snapdragon 820 Kyro cores might be able to beat when it comes out seeing latest benchmark info). Our Snapdragon 808 is even nowhere near 810, how could you expect it would beat Apple A9? Here's the official AnTuTu list for each SoC:
IPhone 6s with 57k... In your dreams. Mrkubix go to sleep...
Sd820 still does not beat iPhone single core performance... Dont know how they did that twister... But they did it very well... Typhoon was already wonderful...
On rockchip's website they listed a play store app called SetCPU that could be used for overclocking the CPU. Has anyone tested this with good results? Searching on google, it seems that other people have been able to overclock the RK3188 CPU from stock 1.6ghz to 1.8ghz+ successfully. However, the overclocked RK3188 chip was in a miniPC rather than an Android Head Unit.
Rockchip website, scroll down to "Download SETCPU overclock app"
http://www.rockchip.nl/downloads/
UPDATE 9/28/16
Users report noticeable increase in performance after adding a passive heatsink to the CPU and RAM.
See the following posts:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=68820360&postcount=13
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=68899885&postcount=22
Seems overclocking is locked by the kernel- we're limited to adjusting the governor through Kernel Adiutor, No-frills CPU Control, and SetCPU.
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with that big cooler on mine, I am not worried about heat. Even loaded for minutes the board is at room temp. The heatsink is barely even warm. I still get frustrated drving my wives car with the 4.4.4 unit. God it is so much faster. I love the zipties though, looks as good as my 3m tape solution haha. After the paste gets good and hard, I may just remove the tape.
I tried to overclock. It will not keep the changes in the files. It is locked in the kernel.
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I would say.... Give it a shot
Or i will... Lol
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.grarak.kerneladiutor
Need root?
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Need root?
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Yes, root is required.
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Oooh, that sounds very nice! I was planning on dismounting the unit from the car for the coming weeks anyway, to see if I can get the v6.5 Malaysk firmware to play and do some other tweaks. So this one is a nice feature to test.
Anybody got an idea of how the cpu is cooled? In comparison to a tablet or minipc, I would say they have ample of room to do so, but the question is whether they actually did something.
i would be interested in seeing the results of someone else trying this out
Judging by past photos, there doesn't seem to be any active cooling whatsoever. Additionally, I don't believe passive cooling is even installed - it's just free air. In any case, my MTCD tends to get quite hot.
https://img.xda-cdn.com/XGgubcDPFwM...GdD8Un98jDL93VOVFZVGVWdwspoGnzs=w1547-h870-no
Might be a good idea to use a passive cooling ?
I downloaded Setcpu, but its not as easy as choosing a new setting. The stock frequency tables are all that are there. It allows you to load new frequencies from a .txt file. I haven't had a chance to do this yet.
i used setcpu for root and it works fine. The kernel is locked to 1.6 but..................
even under full load continually the cpu never went above 1.2
I went out bought a heatsink and put it on the cpu. Cranked it to performance and 1.6 on boot with setcpu
It is a completely different machine now. It works as well as my mtcb 3188. Today I got gps workin and a workin radio good day.
What passive heatsink did you buy?
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just an aluminum fined one from a local shop. covers the memory and the cpu.
It still can peg the cpu with i loveradio and google driving maps open at the same time, but it no longer freezes and is usable. Takes maybe 5 seconds to open google maps if only thing running. It is usable now until it burns up.
They definitely had a heat/speed problem. If someone could unlock the kernel it would be better. It is usable now and no longer a piece of junk.
just got an email from joying, it does have a gps card slot, it is just inside the box. on the front left.
How do you mount the heatsink?
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How do you mount the heatsink?
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3m outdoor tape
Mine is not locked at 1.2. I can flip the governor to performance and it runs at 1.6 all day long.
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Mine is not locked at 1.2. I can flip the governor to performance and it runs at 1.6 all day long.
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did you use a script or a cpu tool to switch it? if you used a script mind sharing it so i do not have to go looking for file location?
I did notice if I chose performance it would run at 1.6 also, on any other setting it never made it above 1.2 no matter how bad the load was. I would rather having it boot at 1.6 also. maybe 1.8 now that i know initd is working on maylay 6.5
maybe something like
echo "performance" > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor
it has a file that lists them all there also
Mine would go to 1.6 on interactive. I switched it to performance and it locked on 1.6, but I'm not sure how hot its getting. there doesn't seem to be a sensor. Will these shutdown or reboot if they get too hot? I was also able to make these changes using Kernel auditor which is free. I switched it back to stock. I dont know enough about these and how they protect themselves from heat. Is there a kernel source available anywhere?
what kind of unit you have? mine refused to go above 1.2, but it is all about the limits and timing maps on how high it lets it go, not just the max frequency.
it was slow as could be.
I have a joying unit.
You're busy and don't have time to wait, which is why you need to stop reading this thread and get back to organizing your Pogs. Rate this thread to express how the OnePlus 6T performs when multitasking. A higher rating indicates that the OnePlus 6T keeps many apps in memory so that they don't need to reload, and that when moving between apps, transitions are smooth and performance is excellent.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
I am using the T-Mobile variant (128GB ROM, 8GB RAM), if it makes a difference. I feel that the apps close rather quickly. Some of my bigger games would remain in the memory for a much longer period of time on other phones, but not so much this phone. Just.my opinion.
For the record, I like to play Injustice, Brave Frontier, and Modern Combat 5. While they are all large memory hogs, they would stay in the memory of my Nexus 6 for hours, even overnight. If I don't return to the games within 15mins, they tend to be restarted with the 6T.
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I am using the T-Mobile variant (128GB ROM, 8GB RAM), if it makes a difference. I feel that the apps close rather quickly. Some of my bigger games would remain in the memory for a much longer period of time on other phones, but not so much this phone. Just.my opinion.
For the record, I like to play Injustice, Brave Frontier, and Modern Combat 5. While they are all large memory hogs, they would stay in the memory of my Nexus 6 for hours, even overnight. If I don't return to the games within 15mins, they tend to be restarted with the 6T.
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How long havre you had the phone? I had that impression when I first got the phone but after a few days it seemed to adapt. The two games I play stay in memory much better now than before and way better than my Pixel XL2. Even after some navigation, I was shocked to see my games still ready to play.
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How long havre you had the phone? I had that impression when I first got the phone but after a few days it seemed to adapt. The two games I play stay in memory much better now than before and way better than my Pixel XL2. Even after some navigation, I was shocked to see my games still ready to play.
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This is my 4th day having the phone.
Let me know if it starts improving. My theory is the memory management is adaptive.
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This is my 4th day having the phone.
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I am experiencing the same issue. Battery optimization has been set for all the critical apps, but still they reload. I have the phone 2 weeks.
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I am using the T-Mobile variant (128GB ROM, 8GB RAM), if it makes a difference. I feel that the apps close rather quickly. Some of my bigger games would remain in the memory for a much longer period of time on other phones, but not so much this phone. Just.my opinion.
For the record, I like to play Injustice, Brave Frontier, and Modern Combat 5. While they are all large memory hogs, they would stay in the memory of my Nexus 6 for hours, even overnight. If I don't return to the games within 15mins, they tend to be restarted with the 6T.
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Hi guys, what's the best way to keep apps running in the background?
I use an app called Kinscreen which keeps my screen awake but as soon as I go to sleep, the following morning the app has closed down. The strange thing is that not all apps close down...
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Hi guys, what's the best way to keep apps running in the background?
I use an app called Kinscreen which keeps my screen awake but as soon as I go to sleep, the following morning the app has closed down. The strange thing is that not all apps close down...
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Lock it in recents.
Press the 3 dot menu at the top right under battery optimisation to get to the advanced optimisations, that will be where you're having issues, toggle the switches there.
But be prepared to see your battery life not last as long.
I bought my 6T from the Oneplus website, it has a feature called Smart Boost which is supposed to make more use of the vast amount of RAM the phone has. I find that my large apps almost never close out on me. For example, i have had pokemon go stay alive in the background for over 24 hours before. I have heard that SmartBoost will be coming to the TMO 6T eventually.
https://piunikaweb.com/2018/11/06/t-mobile-oneplus-6t-doesnt-feature-smart-boost-but-its-coming/
One Plus 6T 6010, 128GB storage 8GB of RAM.
Today I noticed that if I use 'Here Maps' and turn the screen off (voice prompts are often enough) it is killed within minutes.
After all the fuss that was made about the Pixel 3 having 'only' 4GB of RAM (which is now fixed??), poor RAM management it is unacceptable on a device with 8GB.
I was getting quite frustrated with apps closing at first, it was killing my run tracker while I was running...
Going into battery optimizations and turning off the advanced optimizations helped massively. Still very good battery life!
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One Plus 6T 6010, 128GB storage 8GB of RAM.
Today I noticed that if I use 'Here Maps' and turn the screen off it is killed within minutes.
After all the fuss that was made about the Pixel 3 having 4GB of RAM and it's (now fixed??) poor RAM management it is unacceptable that a device with 8GB can't keep something so simple in memory.
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Lol you're so silly
We shouldn't have to resort to changing settings to get apps to stay in RAM, 8GB is top of the range.
The new update has totally borked the memory manager, it's killing my run tracker almost as soon as I turn the screen off, if it is not currently open. The only thing I have found that fixes this is to make a tasker profile that opens my run tracker when I lock the phone.
I'm a bit unhappy. Great hardware, terrible software. I get a solid day of battery even using GPS for an hour and a half, so this aggressive battery management is not necessary.
I'll be flashing a rom as soon as they support the fingerprint reader.
Smart Boost feature
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McLaren edition OnePus 6T owner here. I don't game, but I use to have literally dozens of apps open in the background. Haven't had an app reload within a whole day from any app so far. I've been using it for a couple days, and I clear all apps from RAM when I go to sleep.
I'm facing overheating issues while using video call on my pixel 7 pro. So scare for this temperature 45*C while doing video call. My old pixel 4xl has no issue so far, still working fine.
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Mine is at 35c in my pocket with the screen off listening to music. Battery draining like crazy.
Damn it.. so my old pixel 6 pro always over heated and I just purchased a pro 7 was hoping it wasn't over heating and well
Gotta wait for the pixel 12 pro
Over what? 36C* is not over. At least no visible throttling.. winter is coming
I must be good then. I'm at 29.8C while using my phone
A factory reset solved my problem with overheating and draining the battery.
The only video calls I use are WhatsApp, which I've done a few of on this phone. I've noticed they result in a slight increase in temperature, but no more than 38/39 degrees after about 10 minutes.
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Mine is at 35c in my pocket with the screen off listening to music. Battery draining like crazy.
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Normal usages is OK, battery temperature is around 38C, overheat happen while doing video call...
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A factory reset solved my problem with overheating and draining the battery.
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I did factory reset, but I need to migrate all of my data from my old pixel4 xl, but it still happen overheat
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Gotta wait for the pixel 12 pro
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No, this one is my last Pixel , I have been used Pixel 2XL and 4XL so far all ok and the camera is awesome, but this Pixel 7 Pro is overheating
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I did factory reset, but I need to migrate all of my data from my old pixel4 xl, but it still happen overheat
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After the factory reset I made a clean instal of everything. I only migrate some videos with nearby function. Maybe you should try a clean instal without migrating your stuff first.
I just unlocked my Bootloader, setting things up and this phone is hot as hell. Hot enough that the Flash is disabled
My Pixel 6 Pro used to hit 45c if you broke wind and it heard you, thankfully my Pixel 7 Pro does run significantly cooler but video calling does seem to be a bit of an Achilles' heel of Tensor. Video calling however does push the radios, the camera and the processor so it is going to heat up innit and if 45C was too hot the phone would shut its self off in self preservation so is it really anything to worry about?
I am not saying this is the same with Tensor but the latests Ryzen processors are designed to hit a thermal limit rather than a power limit so they instantly hit 95C under load where as previously 95C was an absolute no no, you're going to kill the CPU so don't go there, maybe this is just the way forwards.
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My Pixel 6 Pro used to hit 45c if you broke wind and it heard you, thankfully my Pixel 7 Pro does run significantly cooler but video calling does seem to be a bit of an Achilles' heel of Tensor. Video calling however does push the radios, the camera and the processor so it is going to heat up innit and if 45C was too hot the phone would shut its self off in self preservation so is it really anything to worry about?
I am not saying this is the same with Tensor but the latests Ryzen processors are designed to hit a thermal limit rather than a power limit so they instantly hit 95C under load where as previously 95C was an absolute no no, you're going to kill the CPU so don't go there, maybe this is just the way forwards.
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The problem is the battery can't really exceed 45C without starting to degrade. And obviously it wouldn't be possible to hold a phone that was dissipating 95C worth of heat through the body lol.
That said, I did a video call today on Zoom for an hour and the phone didn't heat up even as much as my old 12 Pro Max did. I checked AccuBattery and the battery was around 38C which is like 1-3 degrees more than the normal usage scenario I've been experiencing and far from being concerning.
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The problem is the battery can't really exceed 45C without starting to degrade. And obviously it wouldn't be possible to hold a phone that was dissipating 95C worth of heat through the body lol.
That said, I did a video call today on Zoom for an hour and the phone didn't heat up even as much as my old 12 Pro Max did. I checked AccuBattery and the battery was around 38C which is like 1-3 degrees more than the normal usage scenario I've been experiencing and far from being concerning.
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Thing is the P6P hit 45C as regular as the tides without worldwide outcry of the phone or battery being damaged, you just had a lot of people (generally in very hot countries) saying my phone is too hot and i have not really done anything, it is hitting 45c all the time and my camera flash has been turned off.
Mine used to hit 45C just sat in my pocket when i was outside in the summer and i am in the UK where at 25C everyone is melting and moaning they cannot stand this intense heat while the rest of the world laughs at us for flapping on a warm day.
45C seems to be a magic number, it is always 45C and you very rarely see it go higher, 45C sounds like a thermal limit to me and maybe just like Ryzen this is how Tensor is set to run, hit the thermal limit first to maximise processor efficiency.
Of course i am probably very wrong as this is all speculation on my part, the reality is Tensor just runs hot like the Exynos processors it is based on I'd have thought.
My brother-in-law has a Pixel 6 Pro, and when I showed him my 7 Pro on a family gathering last weekend the first thing he asked about was the heat levels. He said he loves the 6 Pro, but the overheating on it is ridiculous. He said the phone was basically unusable when we went through a heatwave in the UK here a few months back were 40c was hit in a couple of locations.
My experience of the 7 Pro so far (I've had it just under 2 weeks) is 95% of the time it will sit between 30c and 35c in normal use, and occasionally tip towards 39/40 if you do something which stresses it. I've had it go over 40c on one occasion but that was after 4-5 reboots in 5-10 minutes when I was messing around with various settings after rooting it. Overall it's been more than reasonable for me.
I also strongly recommend sticking the CPU governor on schedutil.
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I also strongly recommend sticking the CPU governor on schedutil.
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May I ask why and what is the differences in your case?
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May I ask why and what is the differences in your case?
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Once activated I found my phone spent more time closer to 30c than it did 35c under normal use. And for what I use the phone for I noticed no performance hit, although that might differ for others.
It's also worth pointing out that, phone SOCs, like other silicon, can differ in quality. So one 7 Pro could run a task with the CPU at 33c and another seemingly identical phone run it a degree or two higher or lower.
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Once activated I found my phone spent more time closer to 30c than it did 35c under normal use. And for what I use the phone for I noticed no performance hit, although that might differ for others.
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Are You using any custom kernel or just default one?