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[Discussion] Why I would never again buy Huawei Phone! And why you shouldn't too!

FIRST: This is my own opinion. You may disagree with it!
My Reasons:
I have Huawei P9. Looking at their Update policy I am not happy with it. P8 is not going to get a Nougat update which is SHAME! Not even 2 years of OS support... What a joke. This means My P9 most likely will not updated to a newer version after Nougat... Which means I will never again pay so much money for something that won't get at least 2 new OS updates (whole version).
Next: Nougat update. It's a complete JOKE. What's new? Split screen, App drawer (lol what innovation here!), couple redesign small things... Take a look at Samsung. They are actually adding new stuff... New apps that are useful: Password manager which makes a bigger use of the fingerprint scanner. Note app. New other stuff. And to be honest their Skin looks so much better. Colors are better. Did you see the ugly Black and Dark Blue colors on the Quick toggles on Huawei Nougat? Damn the guy who came with this idea should be fired as soon as possible! No Double tap to wake up, no raise to wake up... But hey they have Knuckle gestures.. Never used them? What a sick person will knock on his phone.. So dumb... Everytime I want to check my screen I have to look for the fingerprint or power button, chick with case makes a little harder to press everytime the power button, in the dark it's super annoying when you mistake it with Volume down... It's just annoying. Give me something easier. Wave to wake up, raise, double tap... Give me all of them and let me choose...
Next: Icons with app drawer are ridiculously BIG! I guess Huawei designers know nothing about aesthetics or don't care...
Next: Notes app doesn't sync with Gmail. I had iPhone and Samsung phones in the past. I really like Stock apps for notes, they are Free, no ads and easy to use.. And they sync with a Google account... This is not the case here.. There is just half baked app, made for 10 minutes while most likely the dude what on the WC...
So many stock Bloat but no Reminders app... Again! Did you try to set simple reminder without using Google Now? I did.. You need to go to Calendar, make Event, turn 100 option some ON, some OFF... Just give me a simple App like on iOS to make a Reminder in 10 secs.. Is this so hard? I guess it's so much easier than making 10 apps that no one is using...
Next: Nothing about Daydream... I guess it won't work with P9...
Next: Again Updates: Sammy released 4 BETA updates, iOS releases many Betas to make sure everything is OK when the final is released to the public.. Huawei still on 1st beta!!!! And most likely this will be the last... We will get Official release full of bugs and will have to wait months for a fix! Thank you Huawei!!!
Next: Huawei is one of the last OEMs that still hasn't uploaded their Stock apps on the Play Store. And we need to wait Months if there is a problem with some of the stock apps! Did you use the stock Huawei keyboard? Did you see how outdated it is? Doesn't have even all the emojis... Not talking about he look from 2008....
Next: Video recording software. Pixel uses software stabilization too, but it's so much better. Video recording quality is ridiculous for a phone at this price... Again I think someone did the coding while was doing his work on the WC... If Pixel can have a lot better recording with software stabilization why we should settle with suck a Joke?
This is why I won't buy another phone from Huawei. Too much negatives for me. And feeling sorry I didn't get the S7... The metal build was more important for me, but i did a mistake.. Should have taken the Glass.. Obviously other OEMs are doing a lot better job...
P.S: Biggest deal breaker: Updates... !

What's the problem if we're currently using Nougat Public Beta? I don't see any fallback. The official will be rolled out sooner or later.
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Hi Martin, thanks for sharing your opinion, which you're very much entitled to of course.
I'm not too worried about the update. It'll come. It's my experience that almost ALL OEMs are slow at updating to the latest version (Samsung, LG, Oneplus). And when the update comes it's either full of bugs (Oneplus) or makes your phone come to a screeching halt (Samsung).
Notes app... I haven't found anything better than Google Keep for that and it syncs across my devices. Reminders I usually set via the calendar which isn't really an issue for me, but I'm sure there are reminders apps in the Playstore.
Granted, Huawei does have quite a bit of bloat on it, BUT... It doesn't seem to have an impact on either battery life or speed of the phone for me. For me my P9 is my first phone which even after a good 5 months usage is still just as swift and fluid as the first day I got it. And everything just works.

guitarsmurf2501 said:
Hi Martin, thanks for sharing your opinion, which you're very much entitled to of course.
I'm not too worried about the update. It'll come. It's my experience that almost ALL OEMs are slow at updating to the latest version (Samsung, LG, Oneplus). And when the update comes it's either full of bugs (Oneplus) or makes your phone come to a screeching halt (Samsung).
Notes app... I haven't found anything better than Google Keep for that and it syncs across my devices. Reminders I usually set via the calendar which isn't really an issue for me, but I'm sure there are reminders apps in the Playstore.
Granted, Huawei does have quite a bit of bloat on it, BUT... It doesn't seem to have an impact on either battery life or speed of the phone for me. For me my P9 is my first phone which even after a good 5 months usage is still just as swift and fluid as the first day I got it. And everything just works.
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I am not saying it's a bad phone. It's a great phone, but the support is kinda poor. I am not rushing for the Nougat. I don't mind waiting if they will release a really stable version. Not happy that they are on the 1st beta and maybe this will be last and while most problems will be fixed, while they fix them most likely there will be a new one. And there is not a big improvement in Nougat. They could expand some things, make them better. It most of the time color change...
Don't mind the bloat too, I put all the stuff in a folder and forget they exist.
As I said the phone is great, but they could work a little better on the software.

The 3th beta got its firmware yesterday. You want to troll here, thats the point.

dkionline said:
The 3th beta got its firmware yesterday. You want to troll here, thats the point.
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Yeah. Have nothing else to do, decided to troll. Nowadays if you say something people disagree is trolling.
Here in Bulgaria - Beta 1. In the official beta thread no reports for another update, but you got 3.. Strange.

Well the P8 won't be updated due to the same reasons as the Xperia Z3 from Sony. The Kirin used in the sP8 simply is not compatible with Vulkan and therefore Googles Certification Process for Android 7. As this does not happen regularly, you should be able to see updates for your P9 for at least 2 years i guess.
MartinDimchev said:
FIRST: This is my own opinion. You may disagree with it!
My Reasons:
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P.S: Biggest deal breaker: Updates... !
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Thread Cleaned. Please stay on topic and respectful to each other. Else Thread will be closed.

Are you invited for beta test? If not, what is the cust for bulgaria?
Why more betas than stable?
Better is to modify 6.0 and make a backup, if 7.0 got bugs in first global releases, then u can go back.
Why we need the same like other manufacture? Its enough now.

For every stuff have their pros / cons no one the best just find the one that fit for you, Huawei do good progress (not the best) and I dint see any new in software in other phone all are same / running on native Android ,you can go for non OEM firmware phone if need more software modification , but Huawei phone I think thay made for standard / daily driver like Apple...

Sounds like the op should have gone to Samsung, you are basically criticising the huawei because its not a samsung.....
I came from samsung and most of the things you point out as negatives are positives to me.
Placement of fingerprint scanner is perfect, touchwiz is awful and filled to the brim with bloat and ugly icons.
You complain about updates, just buy a samsung and see how long before you end up rooting it just so you can get an update or remove bloatware.
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Some of these points are valid, however, the software is as it is because Huawei is a Chinese brand. Huawei is huge in china, and in china, this software is what sells. And if you don't like the stock apps, just download new ones. If you don't like the launcher, download a new one. That is the beauty of android. There are points of EMUI that I don't like either, but most of them I was able to fix by downloading apps and customizing what I could in the settings.

Has somebody forced you to buy the Huawei? If you have bought the phone without acquiring some information before is your fault.
You knew about the update, the software and the pro a d cons, why are you complaining?
If you thought that the samsung was better than the Huawei why you bought it? Take a s7 edge and be happy.
You could install a Rom anyway

africa89 said:
Has somebody forced you to buy the Huawei? If you have bought the phone without acquiring some information before is your fault.
You knew about the update, the software and the pro a d cons, why are you complaining?
If you thought that the samsung was better than the Huawei why you bought it? Take a s7 edge and be happy.
You could install a Rom anyway
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How do you know how bad is a phone without using it at least for a month? Do they write the Cons in your country? Because here they don't. Yeah I will install a garage rom to fix my phone...
If I knew how bad this phone will be I was going to get the S7 without thinking twice...
I don't get people like you... Why don't you keep your pointless opinion for yourself. What, do only people with positive experience should write here? I am sharing my experience with this phone. And hope it will help to people who are thinking about getting this phone, thinking it's a great deal and great phone... I don't want people the give their money like me for something that's not worth it... If they read this and still want the phone at least they know some of the flaws and problems they may see and know they can live it it..

And why you shouldn't too!
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Nah, my next phone will definitely be from Huawei. I love it.

Huawei P9/P9 Plus Surpass 10 Million Shipments
http://consumer.huawei.com/en/press/news/hw-u_033702.htm

spring80 said:
Huawei P9/P9 Plus Surpass 10 Million Shipments
http://consumer.huawei.com/en/press/news/hw-u_033702.htm
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In most European countries after you buy a phone and open the box, you can't give it back or exchange for another brand.
And it's Shipment, not SOLD... Still it's a great phone, for most people who are not too much into phones or know what other phones can do or how often they are updated, or don't care about updates they would be very happy with this phone. I am happy most of the time while using it. Small things are ruing my usage and this is the problem, they are small, fixable but no one is fixing them.

MartinDimchev said:
In most European countries after you buy a phone and open the box, you can't give it back or exchange for another brand.
And it's Shipment, not SOLD... Still it's a great phone, for most people who are not too much into phones or know what other phones can do or how often they are updated, or don't care about updates they would be very happy with this phone. I am happy most of the time while using it. Small things are ruing my usage and this is the problem, they are small, fixable but no one is fixing them.
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Dont cry man if you want updates buy a Pixel
Bye!!

safariking said:
Dont cry man if you want updates buy a Pixel
Bye!!
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Hey man, if you don't want reading someone complaining about something cut the internet cable.
Bye!!!

MartinDimchev said:
Hey man, if you don't want reading someone complaining about something cut the internet cable.
Bye!!!
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Internet cable doesn't fit in my phone so i cant cut it

Sprint LS997 variant updated to ZV9

I just got the update and for the first time it was nice to be up to date with security patches for a change lol... the previous updates were usually a month or two behind..
But the download didn't specify fixes or improvements, I wonder if anyone knows a way to find out if there are any, like at the sprint website with a change log.. I can't seem to find one as I used to find one with previous phones with sprint.
the update was about 650 mb.

and nobody to update it to zv9. Seems the rom community has halted.

hi guys my phone update to zv8 can i do downgrade firmware to zv6 or earlier ?

No u cant unfortunately

I'm almost willing to forego my root and hotspot for an updated phone at this point. Particularly because every rom I've tried has been a goddamn Bluetooth nightmare, and somehow I suspect aosp isn't going to be better because I've never had a phone run aosp without Bluetooth issues, and I've tried 9 phones.

Hey guys, this is a new phone to me (was rocking a release date Note 3 until last week), and unfamiliar with this forum specifically. (Not sure how I like sticking all the carrier variants in one section, but given the relative obscurity of the phone, I guess it makes sense...)
This seems like as good as any place to ask fellow Sprint V20 user w/o creating a new(b) thread unnecessarily?
I'm also on the ZV9, and it's been so long since I've had an unrooted phone, I had forgotten how much of a pain in the ass it is. True adblocking alone is driving my need for root here.
Is my phone rootable with this version of software? Is the Dirty Santa the way to go? Thanks in advance!
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No its not unfortunately

pbedard said:
No its not unfortunately
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Ugh. Thanks for the response.
The phone is brilliant (after rocking the same phone for over 4 years, even last years phone feels like magic), but this might end up being a deal breaker for me.
Do you know off the top of your head what carrier models are still rootable?
My MNVO carrier (Ting) has other options of carrier models I can use, but T-Mob seems to be the most compatible.
Either way, thanks again for the quick response. ((I apologize for the non-searching, noobish questions, it's been a few years since I was an XDAddict, and still feeling my way around this new forum section.))

kingdazy said:
Ugh. Thanks for the response.
The phone is brilliant (after rocking the same phone for over 4 years, even last years phone feels like magic), but this might end up being a deal breaker for me.
Do you know off the top of your head what carrier models are still rootable?
My MNVO carrier (Ting) has other options of carrier models I can use, but T-Mob seems to be the most compatible.
Either way, thanks again for the quick response.
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Unfortuanely none right now unless u can find one that hasnt been updated

pbedard said:
Unfortuanely none right now unless u can find one that hasn't been updated
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No s**t. That's abysmal. How long has this model been like this? Is root a WIP, or a done deal unless LG/carriers relinquish?
I swear to F'ing gawd, this is the last time I buy a device w/o researching the ... heck out of it here first. IDK what I was thinking.

kingdazy said:
No s**t. That's abysmal. How long has this model been like this? Is root a WIP, or a done deal unless LG/carriers relinquish?
I swear to F'ing gawd, this is the last time I buy a device w/o researching the ... heck out of it here first. IDK what I was thinking.
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Its been like this since june nobody updated root but they have a life you know people do it for free.. Development is pretty much dead except for los rom there updating pretty fast.

pbedard said:
Its been like this since june nobody updated root but they have a life you know people do it for free.. Development is pretty much dead except for los rom there updating pretty fast.
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yeah, the unpaid work of XDA devs is a thankless job. I try to make donations to devs that have made my life better.
And I suspect with the relative obscurity of this phone, there won't be much more root dev'ing happening at all.
Might have to make a new device gameplan. And I really, really, never want to go back to Samsung.
Thanks for entertaining my questions, you've been helpful, man.

kingdazy said:
yeah, the unpaid work of XDA devs is a thankless job. I try to make donations to devs that have made my life better.
And I suspect with the relative obscurity of this phone, there won't be much more root dev'ing happening at all.
Might have to make a new device gameplan. And I really, really, never want to go back to Samsung.
Thanks for entertaining my questions, you've been helpful, man.
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I just got the v20 ls 997 also has zv9 preinstalled. I've been reading the forums and there is still active work on root for these phones. Thats all I know. Seems like they are trying to create a kdz or tot file since sprint never released one for this phone. Also there is a thread about creating a universal lg bootloader solution. I think there is some active work in the G6 forum and they talk about how it could help other models.... Just keeping my fingers crossed because I too haven't had a nonrooted phone in about 5 years and I don't like it. nope. don't like it one bit. The v20 is good but would be a dream if I could get root. heres to staying hopeful and keeping an eye on the resale market value.

loopytee said:
I just got the v20 ls 997 also has zv9 preinstalled. I've been reading the forums and there is still active work on root for these phones. Thats all I know. Seems like they are trying to create a kdz or tot file since sprint never released one for this phone. Also there is a thread about creating a universal lg bootloader solution. I think there is some active work in the G6 forum and they talk about how it could help other models.... Just keeping my fingers crossed because I too haven't had a nonrooted phone in about 5 years and I don't like it. nope. don't like it one bit. The v20 is good but would be a dream if I could get root. heres to staying hopeful and keeping an eye on the resale market value.
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Interesting! Good info, I'm still digging through this forums on this device, trying to wrap my head around it.
This really is a 'best bang for the buck' phone right now, esp if one is on a budget, getting a slightly older device. (I was limited to 300 or less by the wife in my search for a device to replace my old Note3) Plus the removable batt, the SD card use, a jack, a great cam...
I don't even use root that extensively (not a flashaholic anymore), but for the 2 or 3 reasons I do, it's important.

kingdazy said:
Interesting! Good info, I'm still digging through this forums on this device, trying to wrap my head around it.
This really is a 'best bang for the buck' phone right now, esp if one is on a budget, getting a slightly older device. (I was limited to 300 or less by the wife in my search for a device to replace my old Note3) Plus the removable batt, the SD card use, a jack, a great cam...
I don't even use root that extensively (not a flashaholic anymore), but for the 2 or 3 reasons I do, it's important.
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I switch ROMs but really just being able to block all the ads! I didn't realize there was so many. And creating a back up shouldn't be so hard. Don't even get me started on all the background stuff apps are doing! And really there are so many great features missing from stock experience.

loopytee said:
I switch ROMs but really just being able to block all the ads! I didn't realize there was so many. And creating a back up shouldn't be so hard. Don't even get me started on all the background stuff apps are doing! And really there are so many great features missing from stock experience.
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Yup. That's the NUMBER ONE reason for me. True adblocking.
Been doing my normal browsing for the last week on this unrooted device, and (long stream of explitives here) the amount ads that I had forgotten about are stunning.
Getting rid of bloatware would be nice as well.
Have to admit though, stock LG isn't horrible, compared to Samsung.
(used all my thanks for the day, damnit)

anybody knows if zv9 nougat version for sprint lg v20 can be gsm unlocked?

kingdazy said:
Yup. That's the NUMBER ONE reason for me. True adblocking.
Been doing my normal browsing for the last week on this unrooted device, and (long stream of explitives here) the amount ads that I had forgotten about are stunning.
Getting rid of bloatware would be nice as well.
Have to admit though, stock LG isn't horrible, compared to Samsung.
(used all my thanks for the day, damnit)
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I've been using Ad-guard and does a pretty good job at blocking ads for the most part.

Updates global stable version .

it is from March that I no longer receive updates for the global version, I am at 10.3.1.0. have they already left the device? should I install another rom? are there any hopes for widevine certification l1?
Tnks.

Matteomario said:
it is from March that I no longer receive updates for the global version, I am at 10.3.1.0. have they already left the device? should I install another rom? are there any hopes for widevine certification l1?
Tnks.
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I was wondering the same thing.

tiberiumsun007 said:
I was wondering the same thing.
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Me too

This will be the first and last Xiaomi I own; of that I am certain.

5g variant got update yesterday so maybe our Perseus will be updated in a few days too... At least I hope.

croques said:
This will be the first and last Xiaomi I own; of that I am certain.
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I am not disappointed in performance, and camera is also good & also installed gcam. They also promised android Q. So, it is not that bad . Although, I was thinking of Oneplus next time because they are known for their software support.

croques said:
This will be the first and last Xiaomi I own; of that I am certain.
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Why's that? Just because of infrequent updates?

Its OK ... but
tiberiumsun007 said:
I am not disappointed in performance, and camera is also good & also installed gcam. They also promised android Q. So, it is not that bad . Although, I was thinking of Oneplus next time because they are known for their software support.
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Why's that? Just because of infrequent updates?
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No, performance is fine. The camera is brilliant with the modded camera app. I find all the Xiaomi stuff littering the phone a nuisance although I have removed as much as I can without rooting. (I used to root every phone I owned but need flawless Google Pay - always - and don't want to play whack-a-mole with Google).
I resisted setting up a Xiaomi account - why would I have an account with a phone manufacturer? I'm not really a fan of Mui but with a Google Pixel Launcher it's good enough but I am finding the lack of proper notifications on email less than stellar. I like the Xi charging; OnePlus have never done this. Google's Nexus 4 - I think - did and I was hooked from then on.
There are two issues with Xiaomi really. The over riding issue is security. In my mind timely security updates are essential for any phone manufacturer wanting to be taken seriously. And the second is all the data collection that Xiaomi try to do on me; they seem me as a legitimate subject to data mine and advertise to; I'm not.
So I was hoping the Pixel 4 might finally get Google back on to the straight and narrow that the Nexus phones found. Alas no; it seems the Pixel 4 are stylisticly dead in the water with chin and forehead size bezels as gross as they are. So it looks as if I'll be returning to the OnePlus fold if they can master a through-the-screen camera and finger print scanner on the back where it should be.
I had been running a OnePlus since the the days of the One and went to 3, 5 and 6. I like OnePlus. Reasonable performance; regular updates and close to pure Android.
But liking a phone (why do we still call it a phone - its so much more?) liking a phone is very personal and your mileage will vary from mine.

Any new information about the new update?

New update pushed out. Dark mode now available in stable.

Full rom 10.3.2.0
http://bigota.d.miui.com/V10.3.2.0.PEEMIXM/miui_MIMIX3Global_V10.3.2.0.PEEMIXM_cf84891114_9.0.zip

Dark more available but themes don't work correctly when turned on.

Is there a full fastboot image available for the latest version?

How to root the G970U?

What's the best guide to root the G970U? I'm finding guides for the Exynos variant but not so much for this one. Have even read that it can't be rooted or it isn't supported so far :crying:

As far as I know, the Snapdragon variant is not rootable. From what I understand, there is no way to unlock the bootloader. Samsung has this one completely locked down.

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As far as I know, the Snapdragon variant is not rootable. From what I understand, there is no way to unlock the bootloader. Samsung has this one completely locked down.
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I see. Thanks for replying. I wasn't keen on coming back to Samsung but the form factor of this phone is almost irresistible to me. However, seeing as how development is almost nonexistent I think I'm gonna pass on this phone.

rpgdev said:
I see. Thanks for replying. I wasn't keen on coming back to Samsung but the form factor of this phone is almost irresistible to me. However, seeing as how development is almost nonexistent I think I'm gonna pass on this phone.
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I would not recommend it. The form factor and specs are all great, although the battery is a bit on the small side. It has automated power savings features, except you can't control those easily with Tasker (you can with Bixby, but most of its profile triggers are pretty limited). And the power savings features appear to mute Google navigation when the screen shuts off.
But after being on custom roms since basically the beginning, One UI has been a gigantic pain to learn where all the settings are (and getting around not being rooted to do things I like/need). I could go on and on.
I put off upgrading for years for a smaller phone with decent specs. This was about the only option for me. I'd definitely recommend the Exynos version, but that's a no-go if you're in the US.

Too bad. I was just thinking about upgrading from my XZ1 Compact and this phone otherwise seems perfect:
1. NORMAL size
2. Fingerprint sensor on the side
3. SD card
4. 3.5mm plug

I can't root Samsung Galaxy S10e Snapdragon.
I already unlocked oem lock, kg lock.
But I can't find the right twrp for beyond0q. (no lte)
The office twrp is only beyond0qlte. It is no usable.
I flash TWRP_G9700_3.3.1-9.tar success.
but I don't know why I install magisk failed.

andTab said:
Too bad. I was just thinking about upgrading from my XZ1 Compact and this phone otherwise seems perfect:
1. NORMAL size
2. Fingerprint sensor on the side
3. SD card
4. 3.5mm plug
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rpgdev said:
I see. Thanks for replying. I wasn't keen on coming back to Samsung but the form factor of this phone is almost irresistible to me. However, seeing as how development is almost nonexistent I think I'm gonna pass on this phone.
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Actually, G9700 (snapdraon) variant of s10e is unlockable, but it is ture that few custom roms are available...

I would like to root just so I can have control over my phone, but I guess those Android days are over here in the US. ?
And it's sad because this phone is almost perfect. Having the fingerprint reader on the back and giving it a normal power button would make it so. Every company out there is a churning out overpriced phablets with a load of junk we don't need nor care for.

I also currently use a Sony, an X Compact. It's getting rather long in the tooth, but still works well. I have gone ahead and ordered a Snapdragon s10e, as there is really no other current phone in that size category. Hopefully between Nova Launcher, Tasker and Automate I'll be able to set it up to my liking. To be honest, I'm most concerned about the unusual placement of the hardware buttons: try to adjust volume without activating the fp sensor, etc. But I imagine I can get used to handling it differently. @andTab

pseudonym58 said:
I also currently use a Sony, an X Compact. It's getting rather long in the tooth, but still works well. I have gone ahead and ordered a Snapdragon s10e, as there is really no other current phone in that size category. Hopefully between Nova Launcher, Tasker and Automate I'll be able to set it up to my liking. To be honest, I'm most concerned about the unusual placement of the hardware buttons: try to adjust volume without activating the fp sensor, etc. But I imagine I can get used to handling it differently. @andTab
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I have a terrible problem hitting the Bixby and Volume keys when I try to press the power button. I had to use a re-mapping function to disable single & long press on Bixby.
Maybe I'll start a thread. I've managed to figure out almost everything I like to do, finally, with Tasker. A few things I need AutoInput for (which is far from ideal, unless it's a task you can do late at night when you aren't using your phone).
The single task I couldn't do satisfactorily was custom charging limits to try to save battery since I charge my phone overnight. That can only be done with root! Although this could maybe be accomplished by toggling the USB connection from charging to file transfer. But obviously that's not an option with wireless charging.

kodiak799 said:
...Maybe I'll start a thread. I've managed to figure out almost everything I like to do...
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Please do start a thread. Once I get my s10e I can contribute what I've been able to do using the few tools I'm familiar with.

tombbb said:
Actually, G9700 (snapdraon) variant of s10e is unlockable, but it is ture that few custom roms are available...
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Got a link for that guide? I dont care so much for having a custom rom flasher. I just want to root.

I have a G970U1. I have been trying to unlock the bootloader for several days with no joy. I can't get "OEM Unlocking" to appear in Developer Options. None of the procedures I've found online to make it appear have worked. Anybody here have any idea how to do it? Or, how to unlock the bootloader by any means?
Thanks!!

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I have a G970U1. I have been trying to unlock the bootloader for several days with no joy. I can't get "OEM Unlocking" to appear in Developer Options. None of the procedures I've found online to make it appear have worked. Anybody here have any idea how to do it? Or, how to unlock the bootloader by any means?
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Ehh?? I'm rapidly approaching a conclusion that Samsung has succeeded in making the bootloader on the G970U1 unbreakable. I'm really hoping for someone to prove me wrong. Please?

wseverin said:
Ehh?? I'm rapidly approaching a conclusion that Samsung has succeeded in making the bootloader on the G970U1 unbreakable. I'm really hoping for someone to prove me wrong. Please?
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This answer is kinda condescending and not helpful. I get it's a pain to explain the birds and bees all the time, but it's even more of a pain to browse hundreds of non-answers on XDA to find info.
@wseverin he's basically saying that the G970U/1 doesn't have an OEM switch in developer settings because it's not *factory unlockable*. Generally, only the EU, by forcing telecoms and Samsung through legislation, have phones with unlockable bootloaders.
Truth is, there IS a way to root the US version of the 10e. You can find various threads on XDA of people referring to Telegram channels where they'll charge you money to remotely root your phone.
They do this through either various hardware/software dongle bundles, or ENG firmware. The S7 / G930U was rooted with an ENG firmware flash - at the expense of battery life.
In this thread they talk specifically about using ENG firmware to unlock the bootloader of the G970U: https://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/f1...sm-g975-sm-g973-sm-g970-2570127/#post13639840
For US devices the only solution is by flashing an eng-boot + script if it exists for your particular device/version.
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Whether or not that would work, I don't know. I've ordered a couple of S10e to test on. But I'm surprise that there hasn't been more work done to explore this solution on XDA. There used to be big bounties here to get root and bootloaders unlocked.

nick2012 said:
But I'm surprise that there hasn't been more work done to explore this solution on XDA. There used to be big bounties here to get root and bootloaders unlocked.
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Thanks for these infos which haven't been shared on XDA yet.
IMO those with the knowledge to root the G970U think that they can make more profit by selling the rooting service for 100 or 200 $ per phone than to collect the bounty (although I think that they are wrong with this.)
I'm quite annoyed by the posts on XDA which advertise the paid rooting service (like "contact me per PM to get further infos"), although I can't really care as an Exynos user.

Has anyone found a way to root sm-g970U in 2021 for android 11? or its just not worth the effort

No, I just bought one used from amazon for 300 euros and they sent me a SM-G970U....now I have to send it back and ask for a refund and get a SM-970F somewhere (for similar price range ofc, I live in Italy)....i'm almost sorry, it looks new

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No, I just bought one used from amazon for 300 euros and they sent me a SM-G970U....now I have to send it back and ask for a refund and get a SM-970F somewhere (for similar price range ofc, I live in Italy)....i'm almost sorry, it looks new
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Lol i know how you feel but dont because trust me if youre a root fan you arent gonna enjoy it tbh i sold mine like a few weeks after i got it and im just planning to get an Iphone and use it for the forseable future until i change my mind. If you love root dont buy the S or Note devices buy the j or A but if you dont like those i know because they are low end devices sometimes especially for a gamer..... so intead probably get a poco phone one of the newer ones with a snapdragon 860 or a xiaomi with flagship tier performance etc because i know xiaomi and google pixels there bootloaders can be opened and the warranty isnt voided permanently.... meaning once you unroot you get back warranty atleast thats what im sure ive noted.

Question What is the best update?

Hello guys, I am still running on WW_18.0840.2103.26.
What is the best version to update to? For "best" I mean best battery life, good temperature without sacrificing game performance and not crashing. I've read positive feedbacks on verson .229, but I wonder what do You guys suggest.
Also, do I have to install each update one by one or go straight to the newer version?
Thank You in advance

I tought it was an easy question, is this the right forum to post in?

The problem is not your questions but the lack of actual users that have this phone and also use XDA. Its such a small number you are unlikely to get a fast reply. You also did not specify which phone you have. Is its the 5? 5S?
I have the 5S Pro and my update from 3/31/22 is stable and works great. There are however more updates since then, I just havent done it yet.

morphius88 said:
The problem is not your questions but the lack of actual users that have this phone and also use XDA. Its suck a small number you are unlikely to get a fast reply. You also did not specify which phone you have. Is its the 5? 5S?
I have the 5S Pro and my update from 3/31/22 is stable and works great. There are however more updates since then, I just havent done it yet.
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You are right in every point you made! I have a rog phone 5.
Thank You for your answer.

Oxydrix said:
You are right in every point you made! I have a rog phone 5.
Thank You for your answer.
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Your last update is over year old. Personally I would at least update to the latest android 11 update. If you are not a fan of Android 12 UI you can skip it. Android 11 support for the 5 went up to 3/14/22 (WW-18.0840.2201.229) I believe. I am on Android 12 and have no issues as far as I can tell however I bought the phone with Android 12 already on it so I dont know how Android 11 is on the 5S Pro to compare to.

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Your last update is over year old. Personally I would at least update to the latest android 11 update. If you are not a fan of Android 12 UI you can skip it. Android 11 support for the 5 went up to 3/14/22 (WW-18.0840.2201.229) I believe. I am on Android 12 and have no issues as far as I can tell however I bought the phone with Android 12 already on it so I dont know how Android 11 is on the 5S Pro to compare to.
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Thank You for your answer. Do you play games on it? Does it lag/fps drop?

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Thank You for your answer. Do you play games on it? Does it lag/fps drop?
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Yes, I play Call of Duty, Apex Legends and some random small games like Solitaire or Sudoku. I havent really noticed any lag outside of one time. Not sure what happened but I was around 20% battery and the phone wasnt even hot (Maybe its because I plugged in the charger about 10 mins prior to this?). This was like 5 days ago, haven't had that since. If I remember, I will try to watch the FPS and see if it drops when the phone gets hot.

Version WW-31.0810.1226.84
There are only two times not to be on the newest update. One is when you are talking about an iPhone or console where they may not have jailbroken, rooted, or designed a CFW for it yet and you want to maximize your chances of being compatible. The second is when it is a major Android version update and you have software that is no longer compatible or the design has changed in a way that you absolutely refuse to adapt.
The theory that older versions outperformed newer ones is an archaic one. It dates back to when there were 100 custom ROMs floating around trying to release Android versions as the code was published. Android 12 has been running on devices since October of 2021. It's not experimental in the least.

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Version WW-31.0810.1226.84
There are only two times not to be on the newest update. One is when you are talking about an iPhone or console where they may not have jailbroken, rooted, or designed a CFW for it yet and you want to maximize your chances of being compatible. The second is when it is a major Android version update and you have software that is no longer compatible or the design has changed in a way that you absolutely refuse to adapt.
The theory that older versions outperformed newer ones is an archaic one. It dates back to when there were 100 custom ROMs floating around trying to release Android versions as the code was published. Android 12 has been running on devices since October of 2021. It's not experimental in the least.
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Thank You for your answer, btw I don't understand what do you mean.
I see that A12 is not experimental, but literally 99% of people with rog 5 are having trouble with it ->
1) https://zentalk.asus.com/en/discussion/60404/rog-phone-5-android-12-review ;
2) https://zentalk.asus.com/en/discussion/60417/performance-beast-rog5 .
Maybe I get it wrong, but seems like you say that A12 is fine and works good.

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Thank You for your answer, btw I don't understand what do you mean.
I see that A12 is not experimental, but literally 99% of people with rog 5 are having trouble with it ->
1) https://zentalk.asus.com/en/discussion/60404/rog-phone-5-android-12-review ;
2) https://zentalk.asus.com/en/discussion/60417/performance-beast-rog5 .
Maybe I get it wrong, but seems like you say that A12 is fine and works good.
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Works fine on my end, but mine isn't a conversion.
It's really not 99% of people having problems. It's that 99% of people that are posting about it are the ones who did have problems.

Works fine on my 5S Pro as well. Although I got it with A12 already on it so I cant really have a comparison. However coming from a OnePlus 8T with A12, this is way smoother and way way less bugs.

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Works fine on my end, but mine isn't a conversion.
It's really not 99% of people having problems. It's that 99% of people that are posting about it are the ones who did have problems.
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I agree that it is more probable that posts come from people complaining rather than complimenting, and You also got a really good point that most of the trouble could be related to conversion. Btw lots of people complaining with fried motherboards from update on non-converted unit get me thinking about quality check.
Pretty sure that is not normal that I (and lots of other rog users) am scared to update my phone.