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I replaced my first Galaxy Note 10.1 with Amazon about a week ago after experiencing random crashes. These crashes cause the display to shut off for about 10 seconds and then the tablet returns to the lock screen. After the crash the app open before the crash is completely killed. Any information that was unsaved is unrecoverable. This happened during class using S-Note and I lost a fairly large document. I felt as if I would no longer be able to trust the tablet for important notes because I never knew when it would crash.
Up until today, I assumed the root injected system or root in general caused this issue but I did not have evidence otherwise. I had not seen a thread about this so I assumed I was the only one. Today I was able to re-produce the crash multiple times on my tablet, and two of my friends with the Note 10.1 as well.
If there is a developer who can possibly investigate this issue I think it could help the community.
The crash can be reproduced by:
Opening Polaris Office > New Document > Sheet 2007 (excel) > Put data in any cell > Cut the entire column > try to paste the data in any other column.
Keep in mind this error has occurred in many other apps such as S-Note, calendar, and using the launcher. This is the only specific function that I have been able to re-produce.
Please let me know if any one else in the community has experienced this issue and what app it has crashed in.
I try to reproduce it folowing ur step. But, nope..no crash here. Everything is smooth for me..
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I realized the 3 tablets we did it on were all updated to the OTA system update before it was pulled. If you are not on the update it may not be the same.
I tried it on my brother pre-ota and his did not crash. I'm really wanting to reach out to the community to see if anyone has experienced system crashes similar to this.
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vanillanesquik said:
The crash can be reproduced by:
Opening Polaris Office > New Document > Sheet 2007 (excel) > Put data in any cell > Cut the entire column > try to paste the data in any other column.
Please let me know if any one else in the community has experienced this issue and what app it has crashed in.
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I have tested exactly as described with Sheet 2007 and no crash whatever - but I use the stock ROM aka not rooted...
Just tried on my non-updated note and no crash.
Thanks to everyone who has tried. I will continue to find out what is common between our tablets. My brothers note popped up with a paste window that I had never seen before on my tab.
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mine too, no crush at all. hope u discover ur prob soon =)
vanillanesquik said:
Thanks to everyone who has tried. I will continue to find out what is common between our tablets. My brothers note popped up with a paste window that I had never seen before on my tab.
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Why don't you make a factory reset and see what will happen?
no crashes EVER! samsung banned it from my tablet. =]
vanillanesquik said:
I replaced my first Galaxy Note 10.1 with Amazon about a week ago after experiencing random crashes. These crashes cause the display to shut off for about 10 seconds and then the tablet returns to the lock screen. After the crash the app open before the crash is completely killed. Any information that was unsaved is unrecoverable. This happened during class using S-Note and I lost a fairly large document. I felt as if I would no longer be able to trust the tablet for important notes because I never knew when it would crash.
Up until today, I assumed the root injected system or root in general caused this issue but I did not have evidence otherwise. I had not seen a thread about this so I assumed I was the only one. Today I was able to re-produce the crash multiple times on my tablet, and two of my friends with the Note 10.1 as well.
If there is a developer who can possibly investigate this issue I think it could help the community.
The crash can be reproduced by:
Opening Polaris Office > New Document > Sheet 2007 (excel) > Put data in any cell > Cut the entire column > try to paste the data in any other column.
Keep in mind this error has occurred in many other apps such as S-Note, calendar, and using the launcher. This is the only specific function that I have been able to re-produce.
Please let me know if any one else in the community has experienced this issue and what app it has crashed in.
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Did you ever find any thing out? I just had this happen, While copying a url in chrome while using the s-pen... Stock rom and NOT rooted. Tablet is less then a day old. And the only mod is a screen protector that best buy installed...
Hi not sure if i crashed tab or if i accidently shut the device off. I'm running out of the box android 4.0. It happend whilst using the HBO Nordic app. Not sure exactly what caused it to crash.
and just for the record WOW What a pain in the as to use handwriting to Write this post.
a thought...
Endusr said:
Hi not sure if i crashed tab or if i accidently shut the device off. I'm running out of the box android 4.0. It happend whilst using the HBO Nordic app. Not sure exactly what caused it to crash.
and just for the record WOW What a pain in the as to use handwriting to Write this post.
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Did you guys install flashplayer manually? maybe this is the issue.
My Samsung note 10.1
[QUOTkeE=vanillanesquik;32068421]I replaced my first Galaxy Note 10.1 with Amazon about a week ago after experiencing random crashes. These crashes cause the display toit becauseshut off for about 10 seconds and then the tablet returns to the lock screen. After the crash the app open before the crash is completely killed. Any information that was unsaved is unrecoverable. This happened during class using S-Note and I lost a fairly large document. I felt as if I would no longer be able to trust the tablet for important notes because I never knew when it would crash.
Up until today, I assumed the root injected system or root in general caused this issue but I did not have evidence otherwise. I had not seen a thread about this so I assumed I was the only one. Today I was able to re-produce the crash multiple times on my tablet, and two of my friends with the Note 10.1 as well.
If there is a developer who can possibly investigate this issue I think it could help the community.
The crash can bmy rbe reproduced by:
Opening Polaris Office > New Document > Sheet 2007 (excel) > Put data in any cell > Cut the entire column > try to paste the data in any other column.
Keep in mind this error has occurred in many other apps such as S-Note, calendar, and usingve the launcher. This is the only specific function that I have been able to re-produce.
Please let me know if any one else in the community has experienced this issue and what app it has crashed in.[/QUOTE]
Hello, I got my Samsung Note 10.1 used, I loved it so much when I first got it that I dont remember if it was having issues, I think an app crashed and I disregarded it because I planned to factory reset assuming it would fix any problems. I didnt root it because honestly I've never been without su, sep of last year was when I got my first smart device, ever, a pantech burst and I had it rooted immmediatly and I wanted to experiance the differance. So my samsung isn't rooted, i checked with root checker, just to make sure, just now. I didn't try to replicate the crash using the following, (so, not sure, but ill try it and if it does I'll post results.) 'Cause random apps are crashing left and right, some crash right after instillation upon opening. Theres no noticable relitivity to the crashes, in the sence that the crashing apps are categorically random and I tried "uninstall, reinstall" ,and "repeated" also having same result . I'll admit I have a bit of an app addiction, so... using blk mart and mobo on wifi, I've sat in market with continous installations and some crashed before they were even opened, (I love utillities and tools which most all were found via researched and haveing good reveiws online before Instillation fyi). I feel almost all have crashed at least once, I've factory resetted my pantech numorous times, due to a hacker exboyfriend, that I've followed strict precautions , hoping to avoid my strainuous reset routine of app and pic transfer because I've had so many password changes and
Hijacked emails, I've done a total of three resets, and apps that worked fine before would crash upon reinstillation (after transfer to pantech and back). Also the keyboreds, I like full and hackers, (for key prefrence, ive only ever hacked my own stuff to get them back, I've never hacked another person, fyi) and even using google's and factory keyboard, they have random, yet sometimes specific gliches, example; trying to type my zip code into assurance wireless portal, it wouldn't type at all, or it would type all sevens, ect., Untill ultimately i just give up (which is greatly out of character for me, I'm very patient and persistant expecially when it involves online applications of importance, it just reminded me, also, my touhes have been quirky. I plan to reset once again in a moment, and I gotta have su, I dont like this unrooted crap, lol, so I'm gonna root it and ill post if it acts the same which I figure baed on past fix attempts, it probably will. Also this was my first stop on my research agenda, so I'll post my findings, btw this was a gift, cant afford a replacement, anyways I love my awesome forward facing speakers and my so freakin useful split screen. Im not giving up, so pls help, all advice, no matter the level of crudness, Im familiar with techman impatience, and Im not a panzy. Thx, later.
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Endusr said:
Did you guys install flashplayer manually? maybe this is the issue.
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I sure have, what makes u ask, if ya dont mind me askin, why is that a problem? It seems to work fine. Whats ur advice? Info, pls.
Mine, an N8013, has been experiencing similar problems, but with some differences. It randomly crashes as described in the original post but also quits apps, especially gmail, Dolphin browser and Titanium and returns to the Home screen. Attempting to re-open the ssme app or a different app or to wake up the device will cause it to flicker between the last crashed app and the Home screen a couple times before settling down. I don't know if the problems are reproducable. They occur without any pattern of precipitating actions. I, too, need to get this solved. Any help will be appreciated. Oh, yes, my N8013 is rooted.
Good day all.
Last summer I accepted to install Google Now after some suggestion from Google. I quickly realized that this was extremely intrusive and overtook my pad time and again. At the time I blamed that on the fact that my pad was fairly new and was extremely buggy and unstable in every respect.
Now, after many updated and firmware fixes, my Transformer TF700 is much more stable. Lately Google Now has started popping up unasked overtaking the pad. It crashes whatever application I am using and just sits in the lower left corner as if waiting for me to use it. While my pad goes through these episodes, that can last from few minutes up to half an hour, my pad is completely useless.
I have uninstalled everything I can find that resembles Google Now but that does not seem to be enough. I simply can not do anything at all. Anything I try to do the Google Now crashes. I have been able to "force" my way into the app manager (meaning I just make continuous attempts to get into setting/Apps until successful) but there is no Google Now available under running apps.
I have installed all updates and am at version 4.1.1
Any ideas what I can do? This is just too annoying and just last night this behavior prevented me taking meeting minutes in a very important meeting.
Help! Please!
Ólafur
Olafur said:
Good day all.
Last summer I accepted to install Google Now after some suggestion from Google. I quickly realized that this was extremely intrusive and overtook my pad time and again. At the time I blamed that on the fact that my pad was fairly new and was extremely buggy and unstable in every respect.
Now, after many updated and firmware fixes, my Transformer TF700 is much more stable. Lately Google Now has started popping up unasked overtaking the pad. It crashes whatever application I am using and just sits in the lower left corner as if waiting for me to use it. While my pad goes through these episodes, that can last from few minutes up to half an hour, my pad is completely useless.
I have uninstalled everything I can find that resembles Google Now but that does not seem to be enough. I simply can not do anything at all. Anything I try to do the Google Now crashes. I have been able to "force" my way into the app manager (meaning I just make continuous attempts to get into setting/Apps until successful) but there is no Google Now available under running apps.
I have installed all updates and am at version 4.1.1
Any ideas what I can do? This is just too annoying and just last night this behavior prevented me taking meeting minutes in a very important meeting.
Help! Please!
Ólafur
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Google now should work fine on your tablet. You definitly have some issue with your OS, I suggest you should download the full firmware from Asus, do a factory reset then reflash the full firmware. This should fixed your Google now and anything else too.
Olafur said:
Good day all.
Last summer I accepted to install Google Now after some suggestion from Google. I quickly realized that this was extremely intrusive and overtook my pad time and again. At the time I blamed that on the fact that my pad was fairly new and was extremely buggy and unstable in every respect.
Now, after many updated and firmware fixes, my Transformer TF700 is much more stable. Lately Google Now has started popping up unasked overtaking the pad. It crashes whatever application I am using and just sits in the lower left corner as if waiting for me to use it. While my pad goes through these episodes, that can last from few minutes up to half an hour, my pad is completely useless.
I have uninstalled everything I can find that resembles Google Now but that does not seem to be enough. I simply can not do anything at all. Anything I try to do the Google Now crashes. I have been able to "force" my way into the app manager (meaning I just make continuous attempts to get into setting/Apps until successful) but there is no Google Now available under running apps.
I have installed all updates and am at version 4.1.1
Any ideas what I can do? This is just too annoying and just last night this behavior prevented me taking meeting minutes in a very important meeting.
Help! Please!
Ólafur
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I gather you are on the stock ROM? You cannot actually uninstall any system module on stock; you can only disable them (same result on the exterior, though).
You could give unlocking and installing a custom ROM a thought: they generally either do not include Google Now at all or only at your own discretion (with CROMI, for example, it is an optional install). Are you rooted? If so, you can try installing Titanium Backup and freeze system modules in the app list and hunt it down that way. It seems to be starting up now, missing some component or access. I do not have it installed at all anymore (I found it useless out of the box, and although people recommended it as becoming better with time as it 'learned' what to present me with, I didn't find any improvement on finding the info myself by hand, and it is too US-centered for us Europeans, anyway -- I have no use for yesterday's American Football results.
buhohitr said:
Google now should work fine on your tablet. You definitly have some issue with your OS, I suggest you should download the full firmware from Asus, do a factory reset then reflash the full firmware. This should fixed your Google now and anything else too.
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I suppose I will attempt this and try to choke Google Now after reflashing.
I found the firmware on ASUS web but now I do not know how to proceed. I will look for info about reflashing.
What is mu best option regarding backing the tablet up? I have rather a lot of stuff locally on the tablet that I wish not to loose.
Thanks.
Ólafur
MartyHulskemper said:
I gather you are on the stock ROM? You cannot actually uninstall any system module on stock; you can only disable them (same result on the exterior, though).
You could give unlocking and installing a custom ROM a thought: they generally either do not include Google Now at all or only at your own discretion (with CROMI, for example, it is an optional install). Are you rooted? If so, you can try installing Titanium Backup and freeze system modules in the app list and hunt it down that way. It seems to be starting up now, missing some component or access. I do not have it installed at all anymore (I found it useless out of the box, and although people recommended it as becoming better with time as it 'learned' what to present me with, I didn't find any improvement on finding the info myself by hand, and it is too US-centered for us Europeans, anyway -- I have no use for yesterday's American Football results.
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You are correct, I am on the stock ROM and I have not rooted yet. The tablet was so unstable in the first few weeks after I got it so I did not dare void the warranty yet. After it has stabilized I might root it if there is a reason to.
Google Now is WAY to intrusive and, like you said, to US-centric to be of much use to me.
Is there a usable backup solution that does not require me to be rooted?
Thanks,
Ólafur
Olafur said:
You are correct, I am on the stock ROM and I have not rooted yet. The tablet was so unstable in the first few weeks after I got it so I did not dare void the warranty yet. After it has stabilized I might root it if there is a reason to.
Google Now is WAY to intrusive and, like you said, to US-centric to be of much use to me.
Is there a usable backup solution that does not require me to be rooted?
Thanks,
Ólafur
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Download the full firmware from Asus, unzip the file then copy the unzipped file to the root of your micro sdcard, you should see a notification for update, tab on it and let it rip! BTW, without root, not much you can do even try to backup your device.(it's not going to be a complete backup but a half ass one).
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Download the full firmware from Asus, unzip the file then copy the unzipped file to the root of your micro sdcard, you should see a notification for update, tab on it and let it rip! BTW, without root, not much you can do even try to backup your device.(it's not going to be a complete backup but a half ass one).
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Hi. ASUS has an Unlock Device App on its support page. If I get that and, backup, and reflash will I not be back to untooted? If that is so,will I not have trouble restoring my stuff?
As you realize I have not given this much time. I just want to use my devices and not have to be plagued by stuff like this. To me, my phone is a utility first, toy second. I do not have the time to play with it as much as I would like and therefore this kind of operation is all a bit blurry.
I am an IT manager and have been for over 20 years so I am technically aware but have not given my current Android platform enough time yet.
Many thanks,
Ólafur
Olafur said:
Hi. ASUS has an Unlock Device App on its support page. If I get that and, backup, and reflash will I not be back to untooted? If that is so,will I not have trouble restoring my stuff?
As you realize I have not given this much time. I just want to use my devices and not have to be plagued by stuff like this. To me, my phone is a utility first, toy second. I do not have the time to play with it as much as I would like and therefore this kind of operation is all a bit blurry.
I am an IT manager and have been for over 20 years so I am technically aware but have not given my current Android platform enough time yet.
Many thanks,
Ólafur
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Well, if you want your device to run really well, then you need to unlock your device and flash custom rom/kernel. Many ppl kicked themselves in the bud for not doing this sooner. Sure if you unlocked, warranty is voided, but it well worth the hassle. OK back to your topic, in order to root, without unlocking, you need to downgrade back to ICS version .30, root your device, install OTA root keeper, then do incremental upgrade back to JB. The only advantage with root is so you can install rooted backup app to backup all your apps (system apps, user's apps and all the settings), rooted will not improve your device performance at all, but if you unlocked and flash custom rom, you will see a huge improvement on performance.
Hi there,
I recently got a Z3C and rooted it, then upgraded back to 23.4.A.0.546. I removed some apps that I dislike with Root App Deleter and installed my other favorite apps, including AdAway.
Now, the issue I experienced since the first boot is that all apps are not receiving notifications in real time, I have to open the app to "stimulate" it to fetch stuff.
So for example if my phone is in stand-by and I don't turn it on, no WhatsApp messages are received. I actually think I receive nothing until I open the app itself, and also when I am writing, it seems like the app is having troubles at getting online and delivering as it shows a waiting mini-icon on messages instead of instantly delivering them.
I am pretty sure this is not due to the rooting, maybe AdAway could be involved, but it's probably something that changed from Android 4.4 to 5.1, as I had same set of apps on 4.4 without problems.
I checked that apps are allowed background traffic, and they are. I also get this problem on either HDSPA or wifi.
Any thoughts/ideas? Thanks in advance!
hyklamin77 said:
Hi there,
I recently got a Z3C and rooted it, then upgraded back to 23.4.A.0.546. I removed some apps that I dislike with Root App Deleter and installed my other favorite apps, including AdAway.
Now, the issue I experienced since the first boot is that all apps are not receiving notifications in real time, I have to open the app to "stimulate" it to fetch stuff.
So for example if my phone is in stand-by and I don't turn it on, no WhatsApp messages are received. I actually think I receive nothing until I open the app itself, and also when I am writing, it seems like the app is having troubles at getting online and delivering as it shows a waiting mini-icon on messages instead of instantly delivering them.
I am pretty sure this is not due to the rooting, maybe AdAway could be involved, but it's probably something that changed from Android 4.4 to 5.1, as I had same set of apps on 4.4 without problems.
I checked that apps are allowed background traffic, and they are. I also get this problem on either HDSPA or wifi.
Any thoughts/ideas? Thanks in advance!
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Hello and thank you for using XDA Assist.
Sorry to hear about your trouble but fortunately there is an XDA area dedicated to the Sony Xperia Z3 at http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3 . I suggest you post your question with all relevant details in the friendly Q&A forum there at http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3/help where the experts familiar with your device will be best able to guide you. Note that AdAway is extremely unlikely to have anything to do with your problem since it's only active while updating its source files as explained in the AdAway thread at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2190753.
Good Luck!
This launcher app appeared in my update list (Idol 6045i, 5.5). Since it is not currently on my phone it is not really an update. Notice -there is no uninstall option.
Read a bunch of reviews - most were bad, very bad - and once it's on your phone you can't get rid of it so be warned!
It is pushed out by Alcatel.
catapp said:
This launcher app appeared in my update list (Idol 6045i, 5.5). Since it is not currently on my phone it is not really an update. Notice -there is no uninstall option.
Read a bunch of reviews - most were bad, very bad - and once it's on your phone you can't get rid of it so be warned!
It is pushed out by Alcatel.
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My dad's pop4 plus got it too, and it's annoying as hell.
I hope somebody comes up with a way to remove it soon , or even better, a whole ROM fo the phone.
It brought lots of adware (bloatware) I tried to get rid of it but all settings of the desktop are now gone. I have to setup my settings again.
Form of malware
Same happened to my 3 family Alcatel phones this week. I didn't ask for this forced 'update', don't want it and it has totally destroyed my desktop, contacts and all shortcuts. I phoned Alcatel and complained that they don't offer an uninstall option and what they have done is, without permission, hijacked my phone.
They said they would look into it, but I am not convinced.
Will never get Alcatel again
I didn't install it on my phone and it disappeared from my update list quite awhile ago.
I don't allow automatic updates. That is crucial. I choose what updates to install.
Joy Launcher problem
I was able to swipe down from the top, I went into settings, to Apps, to Joy Launcher. I tried Force Stop & it didn't work. I then hit the 3 vertical buttons at upper right of screen. I then hit Uninstall Updates. This allowed me to get my screen back. It also returned my homescreen to factory settings. I had to add whatever icons I wanted to the homescreen. Note, I am not tech savvy but this gave me back my functional use of my cell phone.
Same here, I will never get Alcatel ever again because of this joy launcher crap
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I was able to swipe down from the top, I went into settings, to Apps, to Joy Launcher. I tried Force Stop & it didn't work. I then hit the 3 vertical buttons at upper right of screen. I then hit Uninstall Updates. This allowed me to get my screen back. It also returned my homescreen to factory settings. I had to add whatever icons I wanted to the homescreen. Note, I am not tech savvy but this gave me back my functional use of my cell phone.
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Update: Joy Launcher returned. I repeated above actions & it again returned. On Joy Launcher I denied permissions and for a 3d time it took over my screen. I again repeated above actions and this time I was asked if I wanted to replace Joy Launcher with the factory settings. I clicked on yes and I again got my normal screen back. I don't know if Joy Launcher will return again, I'm waiting...
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Update: Joy Launcher returned. I repeated above actions & it again returned. On Joy Launcher I denied permissions and for a 3d time it took over my screen. I again repeated above actions and this time I was asked if I wanted to replace Joy Launcher with the factory settings. I clicked on yes and I again got my normal screen back. I don't know if Joy Launcher will return again, I'm waiting...
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Are we sure this is Alcatel pushing this launcher? Or perhaps this is bundled with some other type software that persistently re-activates it.
This used to be a common practice for dev's of one program, to get extra revenue by bundling it with their own.
I myself havent installed the most recent update as I feel no need to at this time. I'm currently trying to get rid of that silly "File Manager" that just all of a sudden decided it needed to run actively!
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Are we sure this is Alcatel pushing this launcher? Or perhaps this is bundled with some other type software that persistently re-activates it.
This used to be a common practice for dev's of one program, to get extra revenue by bundling it with their own.
I myself havent installed the most recent update as I feel no need to at this time. I'm currently trying to get rid of that silly "File Manager" that just all of a sudden decided it needed to run actively!
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Thank you for commenting. As I previously wrote, I'm not very tech savvy.
I don't factually know that it comes from .Alcatel but since 8/14 this keeps returning. I haven't downloaded any new apps. I cannot use the phone until I figure out how to delete the Joy Launcher message from my screen. I refuse to allow the program's permission requests. I wrote to Alcatel on 8/14 & they gave me a case #. They haven't yet addressed the complaint.
Today it returned again yet it wasn't listed as 1 of my apps. I went into apps - permissions & I denied all permissions. Joy Launcher had some permissions even though it didn't appear on my list of apps. After I denied permissions I restarted the phone & it was gone. The problem is that it keeps returning. I don't know how to stop this from being re-installed.
Sorry you are having trouble with the File Manager, I haven't yet experienced problems.
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Thank you for commenting. As I previously wrote, I'm not very tech savvy.
I don't factually know that it comes from .Alcatel but since 8/14 this keeps returning. I haven't downloaded any new apps. I cannot use the phone until I figure out how to delete the Joy Launcher message from my screen. I refuse to allow the program's permission requests. I wrote to Alcatel on 8/14 & they gave me a case #. They haven't yet addressed the complaint.
Today it returned again yet it wasn't listed as 1 of my apps. I went into apps - permissions & I denied all permissions. Joy Launcher had some permissions even though it didn't appear on my list of apps. After I denied permissions I restarted the phone & it was gone. The problem is that it keeps returning. I don't know how to stop this from being re-installed.
Sorry you are having trouble with the File Manager, I haven't yet experienced problems.
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On another site 1 guy claims he installed another launcher then used all in one toolbox to disable at startup
http://download.cnet.com/Joy-Launcher/3000-20432_4-77527969.html
It does seem to be an alcatel app
titaniummitch said:
Thank you for commenting. As I previously wrote, I'm not very tech savvy.
I don't factually know that it comes from .Alcatel but since 8/14 this keeps returning. I haven't downloaded any new apps. I cannot use the phone until I figure out how to delete the Joy Launcher message from my screen. I refuse to allow the program's permission requests. I wrote to Alcatel on 8/14 & they gave me a case #. They haven't yet addressed the complaint.
Today it returned again yet it wasn't listed as 1 of my apps. I went into apps - permissions & I denied all permissions. Joy Launcher had some permissions even though it didn't appear on my list of apps. After I denied permissions I restarted the phone & it was gone. The problem is that it keeps returning. I don't know how to stop this from being re-installed.
Sorry you are having trouble with the File Manager, I haven't yet experienced problems.
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No problem mate. Been dealing with OEM crap since the HTC Desire days.
They put this stuff on for several reasons.
1) To give the device a unique feel different from other manufacturers
2) They get money from the developers of said applications to help for a larger profit margin
3) (and the 1 I think is the winner) They let their spouses or partners chose an app "cuz it's cute"
In actuality it's #1 and 2.
If you are rooted, try this app out from the play store. It's what I use.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jumobile.manager.systemapp&hl=en
You can find all the apk's and "com.xxxxx.xxxxx" files. Ya should be able to locate that joy launcher easily. My guess it's re-installing from a couple locations.
As with that Alcatel File Manager, I use ES File Explorer or Root Explorer. I don't like the idea of a program running in memory like File Explorer does. U can tell cause it leaves icons on the notification bar. So I deleted it.
No Joy, (contiunued)
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On another site 1 guy claims he installed another launcher then used all in one toolbox to disable at startup
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Thanks for the suggestion, Mad Scientist, I'll look into the toolbox. It returned last night and I followed Moscow Desire's advice on preventing automatic updates. I had to search how to do prevent automatic updates, I didn't know I could disable them. I managed to accomplish disabling the auto updates. At some point the screen asked me "Do you want to replace with factory version" & I clicked on yes.
I hope I'm not violating protocol by going into lengthy detail. The inability to use my phone is frustrating. I'm writing about my attempts in case I succeed in regaining control of the phone & maybe my experience could be useful to somebody else. Thanks for the input & guidance.
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I like your #3.
I appreciate your generous assistance. This app remover might be the answer. I'll wait and if my refusing auto updates (done last night) doesn't solve the problem then I'll download this app remover.
Moscow Desire said:
No problem mate. Been dealing with OEM crap since the HTC Desire days.
They put this stuff on for several reasons.
1) To give the device a unique feel different from other manufacturers
2) They get money from the developers of said applications to help for a larger profit margin
3) (and the 1 I think is the winner) They let their spouses or partners chose an app "cuz it's cute"
In actuality it's #1 and 2.
If you are rooted, try this app out from the play store. It's what I use.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jumobile.manager.systemapp&hl=en
You can find all the apk's and "com.xxxxx.xxxxx" files. Ya should be able to locate that joy launcher easily. My guess it's re-installing from a couple locations.
As with that Alcatel File Manager, I use ES File Explorer or Root Explorer. I don't like the idea of a program running in memory like File Explorer does. U can tell cause it leaves icons on the notification bar. So I deleted it.
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titaniummitch said:
Thanks for the suggestion, Mad Scientist, I'll look into the toolbox. It returned last night and I followed Moscow Desire's advice on preventing automatic updates. I had to search how to do prevent automatic updates, I didn't know I could disable them. I managed to accomplish disabling the auto updates. At some point the screen asked me "Do you want to replace with factory version" & I clicked on yes.
I hope I'm not violating protocol by going into lengthy detail. The inability to use my phone is frustrating. I'm writing about my attempts in case I succeed in regaining control of the phone & maybe my experience could be useful to somebody else. Thanks for the input & guidance.
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I like your #3.
I appreciate your generous assistance. This app remover might be the answer. I'll wait and if my refusing auto updates (done last night) doesn't solve the problem then I'll download this app remover.
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Not at all thats what we are here for. I'm trying to make mine better too just like you.
Hello All, I too was the victim of the rotten Joy Launcher. I think I have now stopped it and now we have a happy Alcatel cell phone.
I did a lot of things, but basically - sorry do not have the cell to hand.
I uninstalled Joy Launcher (from version 7.0 to version 5??) and clicked on Force Stop. Then I uninstalled Updates (from version 7.0 to version 5??) and clicked on Force Stop.
Within Play Store, I selected 'do not install when connected to Wireless' and 'manual install'.
There is one last 'manual install' option which I think is within settings.
The octopus is gone and Joy Launcher doesn't bug me anymore. Yippee!
Update it from Apkmirror site , you will find latest update ver 7.0.1.0.823 . It seems that play store removed it .
Response from Alcatel
As I mentioned in my earlier post I emailed Alcatel support. They did not respond so I wrote again, this was my email:
Subject:
Your malware - Joy Launcher
Message:
I have 3 pop4 Alcatel phones. You have forced an installation and update of 'Joy launcher' via Google Playstore.
It has totally removed all of my existing desktop, with its contacts, accounts and shortcuts, etc, which took months of usage and setting up. All is now wasted and lost.
I did not ask for this rubbish program. I do not want it. You have forced it on to me. You have deleted and corrupted my data without my permission.
I have made formal complaints to my network provider as I am most disappointed and angry with Alcatel and will certainly make my thoughts known, because this application is a form of malware.
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I received a response today from Alcatel which was:
Dear customer,
Thank you for contacting us.
Regarding your issue, to deactivate Joy Launcher you need to connect to the internet ( wi-fi network) and a rollback that will remove the Octopus/Spider or any other such annoying features will set in.
What you will also need to do is to go to the settings and then to apps. There you will need to search for the joy launcher and then to click on it and if you see 3 vertical dots, please click on it and then unisntall updates(if not just disable it and uninstall it from the play store).
After you do this, please go to the play store and click on the 3 orizontal lines and settings-> auto-update and click on do not do auto-updates.
We also recommend to get a new launcher from the play store and set it as default in order to fix this.
Please consider rebooting your device if the change doesn't come through.
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I though I ought to pass this 'fix' on in case it assists anyone. In any event, I will certainly not get an Alcatel phone again because of what they have done. I hate this type of intrusion with software/bloatware which constantly eats your data with spurious and dangerous ads and peaking at your data.
Good luck
Steve
The amount of bloatware (some of which is borderline malware) that has been silently installed since 6.0 is appalling. It renders the phone super sluggish.
If your phone is rooted you can uninstall most of it (at least Joy Launcher, File Manager and Weather) using a root system app remover.
Anything in the com.tct package namespace is a candidate for being eradicated.
How to root Alcatel Pop4 - 5051x
Yes, bloatware is verging on being criminal as the device has the memory stolen from it.
Thanks for informing me that rooting would allow me to get rid of unwanted stuff. The only problem is that I don't know how to do this. I have read different forums and followed numerous links but I have not found a step by step (idiots guide) to root my Alcatel pop4 (5051x) Android 6.0.1
If there is one specifically for that phone I would gratefull for assistance as I do not want to brick my device.
Thanks in advance
ps: I spent ages trying to prove I am not a robot and was about to give it up as a bad job. Is this normal or just me? For example when it asks for street signs does that include picture of the poles only holding the street signs above...? It just goes on and on. I suppose I need a guide to that now !
Hi,
I'm new to XDA. I think I'm in the right forum for my issue. My phone was infected with what I think is a type of auto rooting trojan. I was looking for info on an app I'm using called Duraspeed. I came across this website that started throwing popups at me saying my phone had tons of viruses, which was a lie. By the time I could break free from the drive by attacks, it was too late. I started getting sluggish performance on my phone and popup ads randomly. Even though it somehow gained root access, my phone is not rooted. Never was. Its still not! Because I checked with several apps off the playstore to confirm this. Long story short:
It put a file called "ads_popup-release.apk"
in my root folder /system/priv-app/
And modified a file called "8e710bb7.0"
in root folder /system/etc/security/cacerts/
or put (installed) the file there I'm not sure.
The file running on the phone as a system app is called "ad_surface"
I can only force stop and disable ad_surface without the ability to uninstall. I have to repeat this process every time I reboot. This stops the ads from popping up. Funny thing is, even though the force stop button in app settings is greyed meaning it was stopped and disabled, my OS Monitor app that shows running processes shows ad_surface is still running. Yet, it does stop the random popup ads by doing it this way. I've tried 360 AV, Avast, AVG, Malwarebytea, Kaspers, stubborn rootkit remover, a lot of antivirus programs but nothing detects it. I'm using Total Commander File Manager to view the device system partitions. I even copied the two trojan files to a folder on the user partition to see if any of the antivirus programs could check them there away from the root areas. But nothing. My guess is that I need to root my phone so I can gain access to the apk file and delete it. I haven't done a factory reset because I realize that apk file is in the recovery partition in order to reinstall itself. I've never rooted a phone before, but I have Kingroot installed. I downloaded it from XDA. I just don't have the guts to use it in fear of bricking. Do you think it would work with my phone? Does it abort the root procedure if it can't do it? Here are my phone specs:
Vortex Beat 8
Software build: 8_V1.5_20171011
Chipset: MT6580M Cortex-A7
CPU Architecture: ARMv7 Processor Rev 3(V71)
Cores: 4 1300MHz
Kernal Version: 3.18.19
Total Ram: 459MB
Internal ROM: 8GB (4GB for user)
That's about it. If there's anything anybody who could recommend how to go about this I would greatly appreciate the help. Thank you...
Go try factory resetting it, doesn't hurt to try.
If the "virus" is still there you can always re-flash the phones os. Here is the link to the stock ROM ---> http://www.needrom.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/BEAT-8_V1.06_20170413.rar
The below link is a tutorial on how to flash the phones ROM.
https://www.getdroidtips.com/stock-rom-vortex-beat-8/#How_to_Download_Stock_ROM_on_VORTEX_Beat_8
In mtkdroid tools, Have all the boxes unchecked, and make sure you only have "ANDRIOD" and "RECOVERY" checked marked. The other boxes are just about the phones information and properties. Theses shouldn't be checked because it might erase your imei/drivers or other stuff. After flashing the rom make sure you do a complete factory rest + cache. Erase whatever you have on ur sd cards or micro sd cards.
Just do this and call it a day
Good luck
Cool
Hi, thank you! I will try this. I will have to borrow someone's computer like my nephews. I did try Kingroot and OneClickRoot but they both failed. Perhaps due to a locked bootloader. Or the evil trojan that made itself super user blocking them. I did do a factory reset, but the trojan persist. My mistake was forgetting to turn off unknown sources in security settings. I think that's how it got in... I'll keep checking back on this thread in the meantime to see if someone knows a tool that can kill the trojan, but I doubt it. Cheers!
SecretSociety68 said:
Hi, thank you! I will try this. I will have to borrow someone's computer like my nephews. I did try Kingroot and OneClickRoot but they both failed. Perhaps due to a locked bootloader. Or the evil trojan that made itself super user blocking them. I did do a factory reset, but the trojan persist. My mistake was forgetting to turn off unknown sources in security settings. I think that's how it got in... I'll keep checking back on this thread in the meantime to see if someone knows a tool that can kill the trojan, but I doubt it. Cheers!
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I'm having similar troubles I somehow believe I have an entire infected Network from Windows 10 to iOS and all the cell phones even two 3-g flip even the Smart car has been recognized I communicated with the virus / hacker Network I have no idea how to get rid of it I give his self super user privileges without quite rooting the phone and hides itself in system apps so it's virtually impossible to get rid of at least for me it is I have post here called wading deep Waters please do check it out
sassyfrassy said:
I'm having similar troubles I somehow believe I have an entire infected Network from Windows 10 to iOS and all the cell phones even two 3-g flip even the Smart car has been recognized I communicated with the virus / hacker Network I have no idea how to get rid of it I give his self super user privileges without quite rooting the phone and hides itself in system apps so it's virtually impossible to get rid of at least for me it is I have post here called wading deep Waters please do check it out
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It isn't unheard of for a router to get infected with a virus/malware, rare, but not exactly impossible. I've run across others here over the years that have discussed this issue. I don't remember any specifics, tools or methods to fix the issue though, but you can probably find info on removing malware from a router.
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Droidriven said:
It isn't unheard of for a router to get infected with a virus/malware, rare, but not exactly impossible. I've run across others here over the years that have discussed this issue. I don't remember any specifics, tools or methods to fix the issue though, but you can probably find info on removing malware from a router.
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Thank you for your prompt response I'm not positive that the router and modem are infected more or less they are overloaded from the amount of leeches in hitchhiker's I have from this awful network of hackers and code running through my TV's my cars for god sakes I read one of their lauder's I got in somehow and I could see that they were logging how many seconds it took me from getting out of the car to getting in my home that was just one scary example they could tell when my phone was in my pocket and if I was walking and how many people were with me this is just my cell phone not to mention my TV's the laptops I have no idea what to do
sassyfrassy said:
Thank you for your prompt response I'm not positive that the router and modem are infected more or less they are overloaded from the amount of leeches in hitchhiker's I have from this awful network of hackers and code running through my TV's my cars for god sakes I read one of their lauder's I got in somehow and I could see that they were logging how many seconds it took me from getting out of the car to getting in my home that was just one scary example they could tell when my phone was in my pocket and if I was walking and how many people were with me this is just my cell phone not to mention my TV's the laptops I have no idea what to do
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It sounds to me like their hold over you has more to do with your personal information than with your devices. With certain pieces of your info, they can gain access to any device that you sign into, login to or even just enter information in while using, even if it isn't yours.
If your network provider randomly cycles IP addresses among its users, it could be that the hacker has previously hijacked that IP address while another user was using it and his access carried over to you when the IP was assigned to you. If this is so, a new IP and changing all of your account info among all of the various accounts you have would cut him off, maybe?
I'm not the best at network security issues that go that deep. My network management/LAN Admin days were a very long time ago, too many things have changed.
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Droidriven said:
It sounds to me like their hold over you has more to do with your personal information than with your devices. With certain pieces of your info, they can gain access to any device that you sign into, login to or even just enter information in while using, even if it isn't yours.
If your network provider randomly cycles IP addresses among its users, it could be that the hacker has previously hijacked that IP address while another user was using it and his access carried over to you when the IP was assigned to you. If this is so, a new IP and changing all of your account info among all of the various accounts you have would cut him off, maybe?
I'm not the best at network security issues that go that deep. My network management/LAN Admin days were a very long time ago, too many things have changed.
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Thank you I really appreciate you taking the time to think about my situation I have had no one to talk to about this for 2 months
sassyfrassy said:
Thank you I really appreciate you taking the time to think about my situation I have had no one to talk to about this for 2 months
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Not sure how much help I'll be to you. I'm no expert in what you're dealing with. I'm just telling you some possibilities that I've seen others dealing with over the years.
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Droidriven said:
It sounds to me like their hold over you has more to do with your personal information than with your devices. With certain pieces of your info, they can gain access to any device that you sign into, login to or even just enter information in while using, even if it isn't yours.
If your network provider randomly cycles IP addresses among its users, it could be that the hacker has previously hijacked that IP address while another user was using it and his access carried over to you when the IP was assigned to you. If this is so, a new IP and changing all of your account info among all of the various accounts you have would cut him off, maybe?
I'm not the best at network security issues that go that deep. My network management/LAN Admin days were a very long time ago, too many things have changed.
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You hit the nail on the head! Told me "unfortunately we have met"
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SecretSociety68 said:
It put a file called "ads_popup-release.apk"
in my root folder /system/priv-app/
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translation it installed itself to the privilege app section on your phone which does not delete with a reset (new rom does) this also gives the app more power
it can only be done with root so the app rooted your phone (at least temp) here is a app that removes it but it needs root
https://f-droid.org/en/packages/de.j4velin.systemappmover/
And a system priv app has AFAIK full power however as of Oreo thier is another file to give it permisions so says google https://source.android.com/devices/tech/config/perms-whitelist namely
/etc/permissions/privapp-permissions-OEM_NAME.xml
/etc/permissions/privapp-permissions-DEVICE_NAME.xml
check these files and see what you find
SecretSociety68 said:
And modified a file called "8e710bb7.0"
in root folder /system/etc/security/cacerts/
or put (installed) the file there I'm not sure.
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translation installed a CA certificate that enables them to have a SSL connection or with this certificate can spoof websites
of course this should be deleted but again you will need root (or new Rom)
SecretSociety68 said:
The file running on the phone as a system app is called "ad_surface"
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The app has to be running with a linux GUID so you can check with that
the apps can not find root this can be because the program used root once to get a elevated status (temporary root) and then does not need it anymore
so you cannot find it. The question still remains how they did that but right now you need to get out.
Waiting for other response. Hehe.
I had this take control of multiple devices and 2 computers. 3 android phones and an apple iphone and 2 windows computers. I countless hours going through logs and data. On my android devices it even made a cloned version of TWRP so it would reinstall itself through recovery. I spent hours on the phone with samsung and apple senior advisors. I viewed the analytic data on the apple device over and over. Extremely werid things were running. Constantly writting system wwrites on a stock apple phone. It was able to transfer from device to device over wifi hotspot. It went on for over two months. I had a roku tv also become monitored. It was the craziest **** ive ever had happen to me. It litterally almost drove me insane and I thought I was going crazy. Ive never seen anything like it. Even google reaults were completely false and fake sites. I disnt know this happened to anyone else. Ive got countless logs and screenshots saved in case I ever needed to share the info. It even remotely sipped my desktop hard drives and had me connecring to a remote server on boot.
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I could make a phone call and hear breathing in the background. Id make a call and touch tone sounds would go off after the first ring. I was getting constant interference through my phone. It connected all my devices to a home group I never created. I literally had to destroy the devices
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Applied protocal - makes sense man, in juat glad I got it off my back. On the iphone, when yyou would install a new app from the "app store" it would run a wake up over 4000 times a second to wake up an unknown app in system files . im assuming this was to clone the app or change some code in it when it was installed. The app name was ??? In the analytic logs and it was an "event write system". This was some dirty stuff man. Is this something that is common right now? This exploit across so many devices? Id love to share some of these logs and screenshots if anyone is interested.
SecretSociety68 said:
Hi,
I'm new to XDA. I think I'm in the right forum for my issue. My phone was infected with what I think is a type of auto rooting trojan. I was looking for info on an app I'm using called Duraspeed. I came across this website that started throwing popups at me saying my phone had tons of viruses, which was a lie. By the time I could break free from the drive by attacks, it was too late. I started getting sluggish performance on my phone and popup ads randomly. Even though it somehow gained root access, my phone is not rooted. Never was. Its still not! Because I checked with several apps off the playstore to confirm this. Long story short:
It put a file called "ads_popup-release.apk"
in my root folder /system/priv-app/
And modified a file called "8e710bb7.0"
in root folder /system/etc/security/cacerts/
or put (installed) the file there I'm not sure.
The file running on the phone as a system app is called "ad_surface"
I can only force stop and disable ad_surface without the ability to uninstall. I have to repeat this process every time I reboot. This stops the ads from popping up. Funny thing is, even though the force stop button in app settings is greyed meaning it was stopped and disabled, my OS Monitor app that shows running processes shows ad_surface is still running. Yet, it does stop the random popup ads by doing it this way. I've tried 360 AV, Avast, AVG, Malwarebytea, Kaspers, stubborn rootkit remover, a lot of antivirus programs but nothing detects it. I'm using Total Commander File Manager to view the device system partitions. I even copied the two trojan files to a folder on the user partition to see if any of the antivirus programs could check them there away from the root areas. But nothing. My guess is that I need to root my phone so I can gain access to the apk file and delete it. I haven't done a factory reset because I realize that apk file is in the recovery partition in order to reinstall itself. I've never rooted a phone before, but I have Kingroot installed. I downloaded it from XDA. I just don't have the guts to use it in fear of bricking. Do you think it would work with my phone? Does it abort the root procedure if it can't do it? Here are my phone specs:
Vortex Beat 8
Software build: 8_V1.5_20171011
Chipset: MT6580M Cortex-A7
CPU Architecture: ARMv7 Processor Rev 3(V71)
Cores: 4 1300MHz
Kernal Version: 3.18.19
Total Ram: 459MB
Internal ROM: 8GB (4GB for user)
That's about it. If there's anything anybody who could recommend how to go about this I would greatly appreciate the help. Thank you...
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Definitely malmare! Mine was called "Ad-Time", like a kid's show or something, but either way, very persistent and pervasive! I have 2 roms, (v 1.5 & 1.6), in img format, easy fastboot flash. Look at this phone wrong and it's rooted. Anybody interested, hit me up, I even got the couple-line script to install SuperSU /system (beat 8 doesn't like Magisk). A simple su.d script to enable permissive selinux, build.prop changes, and you have a $30 Nexus via MTK. I also ported TWRP 3.2.1(no bugs) & Philz, but TWRP is my comfort-zone.
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sameboat said:
I had this take control of multiple devices and 2 computers. 3 android phones and an apple iphone and 2 windows computers. I countless hours going through logs and data. On my android devices it even made a cloned version of TWRP so it would reinstall itself through recovery. I spent hours on the phone with samsung and apple senior advisors. I viewed the analytic data on the apple device over and over. Extremely werid things were running. Constantly writting system wwrites on a stock apple phone. It was able to transfer from device to device over wifi hotspot. It went on for over two months. I had a roku tv also become monitored. It was the craziest **** ive ever had happen to me. It litterally almost drove me insane and I thought I was going crazy. Ive never seen anything like it. Even google reaults were completely false and fake sites. I disnt know this happened to anyone else. Ive got countless logs and screenshots saved in case I ever needed to share the info. It even remotely sipped my desktop hard drives and had me connecring to a remote server on boot.
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I could make a phone call and hear breathing in the background. Id make a call and touch tone sounds would go off after the first ring. I was getting constant interference through my phone. It connected all my devices to a home group I never created. I literally had to destroy the devices
---------- Post added at 08:15 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:48 PM ----------
Applied protocal - makes sense man, in juat glad I got it off my back. On the iphone, when yyou would install a new app from the "app store" it would run a wake up over 4000 times a second to wake up an unknown app in system files . im assuming this was to clone the app or change some code in it when it was installed. The app name was ??? In the analytic logs and it was an "event write system". This was some dirty stuff man. Is this something that is common right now? This exploit across so many devices? Id love to share some of these logs and screenshots if anyone is interested.
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Typical Chinese ad/malware/surveillance. If you visit china, you turn over your devices for "inspection", so they can sideload some state-sponsored goodies. A lot of these Chinese roms have the ads baked-in, like mine. Whoever's listening and seeing my pics is gonna need therapy, because I filled the phone up with some STRANGE s*** Remove the apk, but there's several .xml's and .jar's that gotta go, too.
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What is the best way to counter this problem?
Dassote said:
What is the best way to counter this problem?
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Root, and remove all traces of the " ad_* " app and even the duraspeed app if you want, but I didn't see anything untrustworthy about that. Duraspeed is in the default.prop (running booster), so it's in the kernel. Root uninstall just leaves you no way to control, kuz the PROCESS will go and go, unless you're willing to play with the kernel. Not for amateurs like myself My Beat 8 has been flashed or fastboot-booted more times than I can count. Good times.
Once your Chinese spyware is uninstalled, delete build.prop lines with "running booster", /system/lib's with it, and I think it was in the /system/bin, and /vendor/app had one. Clear them all, and you'll need to tweak the build.prop some more. debug.qemu.kernel=1, ro.secure_storage.support=0, ro.debuggable=1, then reboot AFTER you chmod 644 the build.prop! The "debug.qemu.kernel=1" was what made the rest stick. ADD those props, but don't change the existing ones (kernel). I just deleted the default values, replaced with "" . Fits the whole debug vibe. I should upload a copy of my final build.prop, cheap-a** phone runs like a champ.
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