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[Q] What are the risks of using a custom ROM?

I have just bought the gTablet and am salivating at the new features the custom ROMS offer (market, no tap n crap etc)
But what are the risks?
Is there a recovery path to restore the stock rom if things don't work?
Thanks
Drew

mmsood99 said:
Is there a recovery path to restore the stock rom if things don't work?
Thanks
Drew
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I believe this is it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=842000

The risks are:
1. You will not return it back to the store
2. You will not sell it
3. You will not toss it out the window
4. You will not get as much sleep, because you will be too busy modding it
5. You will have to apologize to your better half for less time spent with them
6. You will enjoy it more
etc... You get the drift....

I've decided to just go with the latest factory update (3588) and the generic enhancement pack. After loading Launcher Pro and assigning it as my home (and fixing the market and loading a bunch more apps), the tablet is fast, stable, and I'd never know that TapNTap was even on the thing. Now when Viewsonic sends an OTA Honeycomb update (Ha!) I will be able to download it.

scrinch said:
I've decided to just go with the latest factory update (3588) and the generic enhancement pack. After loading Launcher Pro and assigning it as my home (and fixing the market and loading a bunch more apps), the tablet is fast, stable, and I'd never know that TapNTap was even on the thing. Now when Viewsonic sends an OTA Honeycomb update (Ha!) I will be able to download it.
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Can you explain how you fixed the market?
Thanks
Drew

scrinch said:
I've decided to just go with the latest factory update (3588) and the generic enhancement pack. After loading Launcher Pro and assigning it as my home (and fixing the market and loading a bunch more apps), the tablet is fast, stable, and I'd never know that TapNTap was even on the thing. Now when Viewsonic sends an OTA Honeycomb update (Ha!) I will be able to download it.
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When I had the enhancement pack installed I couldn't get OTA updates.
After the latest update I switched from the enhancement pack to the tnt lite rom.
Since the rom had the update and more already.

mmsood99 said:
Can you explain how you fixed the market?
Thanks
Drew
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865245
You try this?

mmsood99 said:
I have just bought the gTablet and am salivating at the new features the custom ROMS offer (market, no tap n crap etc)
But what are the risks?
Is there a recovery path to restore the stock rom if things don't work?
Thanks
Drew
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If you go through any number of threads, you'll see probably the most troublesome issues are looping reboots, magic number errors and semi-bricking, I say semi because people have reported that the Gtablet is unbrickable with some work.
Personally, I also wanted to stay official but I recently moved to TnT lite 4.2.x out of wanting the updated market and not wanting to deal with multiple flashes and I've been very, very happy. So far the supplemental updates have been flawless.
There's a recovery path and I guess it generally works, but oy veh - it's a chore when you have the Tablet set up perfectly and then have it go down for any reason. With any 're-do' or switch from one ROM to another, you have to wipe your programs and settings. Some people do it without wiping, but in general that's a bad idea. So really, along with the few very pesky risks, the only other issue with venturing into ROMs is having to wipe and setup again if one gives unresolvable issues. If the typical path doesn't work, that's when you'll have to venture into APX mode and NVflash territory - that's where I dread and the reason I didn't want to get into alternative ROMs myself.
It takes a bit to put your trust into a ROM (and more so, it's author/s). So far, I have no issues at all with TnT Lite 4.2. I just went to 4.2.4. I don't ever update right away....just like I do with official updates, I let a day or 2 pass so any issues can come into the light.
At this point, I'm going to be waiting for a Honeycomb ROM, whether official or otherwise. TnT Lite 4.2.4 is perfecto so far for what I want my tablet to be/do currently, so I highly recommend it.
I'd start with TnT lite first (since I can say I have never had a problem with installing it or with it installed), if you don't like it then try the others, that is of course only if you get that undeniable urge to move forward (and you likely will).
Good Luck!

I would have to say, after flashing my gtablet at least 30 times - to try out new roms as well as make some tutorial videos, that there are so many advantages to doing so. Even nvflash and apx drivers to restore to stock is not that difficult if you are willing to take the time to get the neccessary files and read through the instructions a few times. Although I have gotten a few reboot loops (mostly through things I did wrong in my attempt to try new things and not following instructions), there is nothing that I haven't been able to recover from. The gtablet hardware is pretty darned good, and the custom roms that people here have posted are great and sooooo much better than running stock that it is night and day. I highly advise anyone who is wanting to have the best experience out of their gtablet to take the time to read up and then take the plunge - if you really mess up, there is plenty of help here on xda.

[Q] Hotboots after installing too many apps?

Hello, I am hoping y'all can tell me if my phone is just bad hardware, or if this is normal. Since installing the update, I've had to factory reset my phone 4 times so far after something triggers hotboots. Every time I try to ID an app or it is involves the SD card, it turns out to not be related when installing the next time after a reset.
Today I installed all of my paid apps from the Google Market, many of my Amazon apps, and then moved everything to SD card without issue. After downloading so many apps, I'd use App2SD Pro to move them over in batches, and log the apps being moved or installed and if they triggered hotboots.
I then started grabbing the free apps that I could remember using from the Market, reboot, and still fine. When I felt I was nearly done and "safe", I decided to move the last 6 apps that could be moved over to my SD card. Upon rebooting, hotboots began. Uninstalling anything that even looks like it loads into memory automatically, plus those 6 apps, has not helped.
I am wondering if I am tripping some counter when I near/exceed 200 apps and that is triggering hotboots until I factory reset. Currently trying to uninstall more apps between hotboots in the hopes that will help. I am suspecting it is Gingerbread, as I did see this on a leaked build, and not on Froyo.
Those last 6 apps were nothing system related. Just NASA, Inotia 3, Kayak, Medieval Empires, Defender, and Elixir 2. Earlier it tripped after installing Android Assistant and Android System Info. Before that it tripped when I added the Amazon shopping, Student, MP3, and Pricewatch apps.
Why so many apps? Just testing some out to see what I like and don't like.
So, is my phone hosed or salvageable? The hardware has been great so far, just software issues under Froyo and I suspect the same with Gingerbread.
And is anyone else able to repeat this issue on their phone?

Please use the Q&A Forum for questions Thanks
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Thank you Lufc, I totally spaced when I posted it in the wrong area.
Troubleshooting further (by selectively adding the 50 free apps I own from Amazon), the hotboots do indeed seem to be related to having around 200 apps installed.
Could anyone else please test this theory out and confirm/refute them from your experience?

Haha, I can't even think of having that many apps. what's the point of you installing that many? Do you actually use all of them?
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Nah, I really don't use most of them. I just want to see what is out there and test stuff out. Since uninstalling quite a few, I've been stable. Shame I have to uninstall anything when I still have plenty of storage and ram.

I'm having similar problems. Have around 200 apps I like. Not everyday, but occassional. In trying to build an EP4D system using stock or Infinity everything goes bad each time I exceed some fairly large number of app installs. The system is then too unstable to fix and I end up rebuilding.....

I have 195 apps on top of stock ep4d deodexed/debloated that I use a fair bit. I have been totally stable. I should admit that I froze a bunch of stock BS though.
Your hardware is probably fine. You could try stability test from the Market to see if you're hardware seems stable. I personally haven't had any problems with app-whoring so far.
Sent from my SCH-I510 using XDA App

It's hard to get a total number of apps, but counting the bloatware and the number of icons under apps gives me a good approximation. I've been trying and testing, and each time the phone is perfectly fine and stable up until around the 200 mark. Odd that I see this under Gingerbread, but never under Froyo. I wonder if Gingerbread has some little known bug that we are hitting when run on our hardware.

I bet you something is borked that that is unrelated to actual number of apps.
What I would do is:
Install Titanium Backup.
Backup the apps you want. Don't backup stuff like that's included in your ROM of choice like Gmail since you can update that via Market. Just backup the stuff you know is not already installed and that you will want.
One thing that auto-updates no matter what I seem to do on stock/deoxed EP4D is Google books.
When you get all your backups then go ahead and nuke your phone. I suggest using CWM 4.0.1.4 to create a backup image in case you need to restore without having to set up your system.
Install whatever ROM/kernel/etc. you want.
Get Root.
Install Titanium Backup.
After everthing is booted, I usually let the Market update and let the couple few apps that the Market wants to update download.
When you are ready, run a Batch operation with Titanium Backup to restore all your apps. Its your choice whether you want to restore data as well.
Generally, I restore app + data because few of my apps have trouble restoring the data.
Run all your apps to make sure they work. Clear data on apps that don't work.
I suggest clearing data on the Market after you get all your apps working.
Freeze the crap that you don't want running.
See what happens.
I kid you not, I have no nearly 0 problems restoring over 190 apps with a batch operation.

Earlier today my phone, after 2.5 hours of heavy use, started turning itself off within minutes of being booted. Swapped battery, cleared cache, played with wifi settings and 4g, nothing worked. Reset the phone and all is well. Decided to only load apps I actually use, and will follow the steps in the post above later tonight.

xdadevnube said:
I bet you something is borked that that is unrelated to actual number of apps.
What I would do is:
Install Titanium Backup.....
I kid you not, I have no nearly 0 problems restoring over 190 apps with a batch operation.
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Not sure if it's related to number of apps or size of installed apps, but this is a real thing on EP4D. i'm having it happen on Stock, Debloated and Infinity. It occurs at just over 200 apps. Phone works great until one too many batch restores of 5-6 apps and then it will start hotbooting and become uncontrollable. Only thing to do is reinstall. Done it about 5 times now.
In order to get to 200 or so apps (at least the 200 I want), I always end up having to do some Apps2SD movements for Plants vs. Zombies, etc. I actually think the problem is related to that because I installed around 175, dropped all games (which is all I will move to SD) and then batch restored another couple of dozen and it appeared stable for as long as I left it.
Gonna go back, install debloated from scratch and install only what I gotta have. Just tired of messing with it.

I rooted and restored only the bare minimum of what I use, plus a few games. I just don't want to mess with it anymore. I did use Tom's guide to pull off some bloatware (backed up first) and will just leave the phone alone for now. I lose too many hours tweaking every damn program each time, logging in and tweaking settings lost its fun the 5th time I restored.
Applications now listed exactly 100 apps, and I don't want to fight with it anymore. At least not for now.
Kimmie, who thought I had broke it when I rooted last night and did not have data. Glad to see Verizon had a 12 hour or so outage then, and that my phone is fine.

I'm now at about 198 or 199 apps that I installed on EP4D deodexed/deloated using batch (app+data) on Titanium Backup and it works perfect.
Yikes, I wonder if a few more apps is going to put me over the edge.
In this case, I'm thinking you should get some logcats and see if anyone can give you any hints- unfortunately, I don't have much experience with reading logcats, but its worth a shot.

Again, don't know if it's exact number or some combo with how much has been moved to SD. Here's an AppBrain list of what I currently have working. I didn't look so I hope there's nothing TOO embarrassing in there .
I also own an Asus Transformer and here's the AppBrain list of what is on that machine. Obviously I'm basically just trying to make the two match up so I can do whatever I want regardless of which device I have with me.
Somewhere between the two lists is where I start getting the hot loops right after the machine gets to the desktop on a powerup.

For me it is the total number of apps, and not related to moving to SD. I tested this with smaller file size apps as our internal rom is gimped at barely over 1gb. I have Amazon's free app of the day to thank for a wide selection of apps to test.
Think it could be related to our CPU?

Give me your rough estimate please

Hello all,
I presume that this process is done by many of You lots of time.
-Backup of necessary data with current ROM
-flash a new ROM
-Restore data from backup
-Reconfigure small items not included in backup
Would You be able to estimate how long You spend on this process (on average).
Reasoning:
I recall times (years ago) when I was spending hours on such process just to understand that it was not really worth it. I am talking Windows Mobile 6.? here.
My wish is to find a stable, yet fast ROM. allowing me to use my tablet without the need to go through the above process too often, so I will not be an 'experienced' user of the process.
I will certainly spend more time then most of You do, would like to get a feeling how long I should 'reserve.
I do not like the idea of stopping the process halfway, continuing the next day, not being able to use the tablet in the meantime.

Ruud Westerhout said:
Hello all,
I presume that this process is done by many of You lots of time.
-Backup of necessary data with current ROM
-flash a new ROM
-Restore data from backup
-Reconfigure small items not included in backup
Would You be able to estimate how long You spend on this process (on average).
Reasoning:
I recall times (years ago) when I was spending hours on such process just to understand that it was not really worth it. I am talking Windows Mobile 6.? here.
My wish is to find a stable, yet fast ROM. allowing me to use my tablet without the need to go through the above process too often, so I will not be an 'experienced' user of the process.
I will certainly spend more time then most of You do, would like to get a feeling how long I should 'reserve.
I do not like the idea of stopping the process halfway, continuing the next day, not being able to use the tablet in the meantime.
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My recomendation is to use titanium backup, you can find that in the play store. It takes me about 30 min to get about 90 apps installed and then tweak some setting to get my roms where I like them.
Also for future reffence this is a development only forum. Please use the question and answer forum for things like this.
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF300T using Tapatalk HD

Oops, wrong from my side.
@MODs, would You please move this thread, thank You.
But thanks for the estimate.
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using Tapatalk HD

10-20 min

Install the CleanRoms, which usually allow you to perform the updates directly over what you already have. I usually do a Titanium every time I install a new app, and then the backup using TWRP takes about 20-30 minutes. The updates usually are another 10-15. that is about it.

Thanks all for your answers, this is very promising. With my lack of experience in would hope for 1 hour tops, I will soon try.
Titanium full and media sync are available and doing their respective automatic work on normal and Nandroid backup, so I am set to check timing.
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using Tapatalk HD

Ruud Westerhout said:
Thanks all for your answers, this is very promising. With my lack of experience in would hope for 1 hour tops, I will soon try.
Titanium full and media sync are available and doing their respective automatic work on normal and Nandroid backup, so I am set to check timing.
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using Tapatalk HD
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After you do it for a month, it will be automatic finger movement to actually flash fresh takes about 5-7 min. I never back up anything, I install apks from Play, that take maybe another 10 min.

Ooh wow, this is a complete new world
I had a Nandroid Backup made and sync to my NAS, so I am ready to go.
I have also a Titanium Backup on my SD Card, so I can make a restore quickly.
I did this process twice now in a (for me) really short time.
-wrote down my choices during preparation
-did a US flas first to check if that would solve my GPS problem (it did not)
-did not know the JB launcher so wanted to play with it immediately
First reaction : WTF, it did not work, I still have my background, ooh no, I still have my WiFi connection, GMail is receiving mails, Tapatalk new forum entries. How . .. how . . . ooh, now wait, did this process simply find my Titanium Backup and do all work for me. It can't be. Really ?!?!? WOW, this is fantastic !!!
After second flash :
-WW Version to check GPS receipt (Yes, now it is working !!)
-Wow, it even remembered the JB launcher changes I made to the first backup
After a little playing :
-Yes, it IS faster then I had until now, changed from Deodex to ODEX CROMI 10.4.4.23 version
-Swiftkey needed to be downloaded manually (who cares )
-TouchDown Account is really active, all is available
-Google Now avilable although Play does not provide it (nice !)
-WTF 21 Degrees, You are crazy (aah, You were on Fahrenheit),
Yeah -6 is better (well not better, but more true)
Overall, YES, this is way faster and easier then I expected. I can do this more often.
Thanks all !

Well, out of the box I upgraded to jellybean, the used Asus's stock unlocker (yes it works wid jellybean then flashed the cwm jelly edition, then CROMI...
That all took hmm about a six pack, heh, heh hope that helps ( Stay Thirsty My Friends)

com.nvidia.cap

Anybody know what com.nvidia.cap is for,what it does?

iamborba said:
Anybody know what com.nvidia.cap is for,what it does?
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I don't have this installed by default so it must be something you installed from the nvidia market thingy?

Thanks sbdags,was wondering because titanium backup has this listed with a line through it just like it had a google chrome item that prevented me from installing chrome.thought it might be something important.But if it's not in your install then it must be from an app i uninstalled.

I have been searching high and low for an answer for this question myself. I don't think it's something that was installed through tegrazone because i never used tegrazone to install anything. It shows up in the list of titanium backup apps just like an app that has been backed up and uninstalled but clicking it reveals that there is no backup of it and it can't be deleted. Flashing a new rom does not remove it either. I managed to track it down with a root explorer app a couple of roms ago and it was a zero size file that i was unable to delete and i cannot remember where it was located, but now i am running your newest updated stock rom sbdags, and if i remember correctly, the file system has changed, and i am having trouble finding it now. Searching the internet for this only gets you this page and a couple other pages in some sort of asian language that are for an lg phone and have nothing to do with our tablet, nor do they make much sense when translated but i have actually lost hours of sleep over this stupid little file so if anyone can help me figure out what it is, how to either get rid of or restore it, or at least get over it, i would really appreciate it. Thanks in advance.

A string search across the complete ROM finds the string "/data/data/com.nvidia.cap" in /system/lib/libnvcap.so and libnvcap_video.so. Looks like libraries for audio/video capture. What these libraries store in that file is unknown, probably some configuration settings or debug log output.

So why would it show up in tb and does yours show up as a zero size file too?

iamborba said:
Anybody know what com.nvidia.cap is for,what it does?
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Are you completely stock? It could be that GlowBall game that comes pre downloaded on the TF700.
Tylor
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using Tapatalk HD

No i have the latest stock rom sbdags put out a couple days ago with max v3 kernel but i did uninstall that glowball thing. Do you still have glowball on yours?
Edit¦ I went and reinstalled glowball and com.nvidia.cap was still there. It's definitely not glowball.

A search on the internet for what a .cap file actually is can be quite confusing lol. You come up with several different answers, but the one that seems to make the most sense in this day and age and this situation is the one about data packet capturing, seeing as how the governments of the world have decided that spying on private citizens is more important than personal freedom and google (android) is one of bilderbergs most proud constructs.

screamnslave said:
A search on the internet for what a .cap file actually is can be quite confusing lol. You come up with several different answers, but the one that seems to make the most sense in this day and age and this situation is the one about data packet capturing, seeing as how the governments of the world have decided that spying on private citizens is more important than personal freedom and google (android) is one of bilderbergs most proud constructs.
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Paranoid? The file is related to the audio/video capturing libraries. The government and corporate spying is done server side.

Lol i dont put anything past them anymore

iamborba said:
Anybody know what com.nvidia.cap is for,what it does?
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I have rooted my TF700 for first time last week. Loaded Titanium straight away. Deleted Glowball - com.nvidia.cap showed up with a line through it - frightened the life out of me "What had I done?". The tablet seems rooted and otherwise good. To my limited experience it seems to be part of games Nvidia and not the main Nvidia systems. I have read the posts on this - most is over my head - I will stay with it and hope to learn!

iamborba said:
Anybody know what com.nvidia.cap is for,what it does?
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You can remove the file (as far as I can tell) with Titanium's Orphan Remover, but when you reboot, it reappears.
My TF700T is rooted, but I have yet to unlock the boot sector (and won't until the warranty is expired). Tegra is installed, but most of the other "junk" apps have been moved to user memory and many of these have been uninstalled).

[Q] N7100 Keeps Reinstalling Google Crapware. (Long)

This is gonna be long, so please bear with me.
New Android user here, since December and never looked back.
But I have a big problem that just started two days ago, and coincided with the installation of Vonage for Android.
My N7100 is rooted and I also installed a new kernel (Perseus), but kept the stock ROM for the time being, but I'm getting closer to installing CyanogenMod ROM through ROManager Premium.
I just read the article posted here by Will Verduzco on Android security which led me to a bunch of articles on VOIP and it's scary.
My problem is that my N7100 will kind of do a half-baked reset without my doing anything... and then after watching the download light blinking on my router here in the house, Airport is downloading for about five minutes and then, BANG!!!, up comes the screen asking me for my language, and to set up a Google acct, Samsung acct, and I have to re-enter the passwords for my WiFi, etc, etc... you know the drill.
What's causing this?
I've been on XDA hundreds of times doing research on one thing or another, and I've removed all the Google bloatware possible except for the few things that I want to keep, and I got that comprehensive list from the XDA site... but after my device gets done doing it's thing, everything is back with dozens of notifications... AND Titanium Backup, ROM Manager, Triangle Away, SuperSu, Root Explorer, ES File Explorer/Task manager, etc are all missing and no backups on the SD card. WHAT!!!
One more thing which might be peripheral to my problem.
A couple of days ago I installed the new OS for my Mac... 10.9.
With my prior OS, I uninstalled almost all of anything that said "Google" from my computer but have to go through it again and repeat.
This morning, I do a search for anything Google on my drive, and came up with files with executable update files that all had "Android/GT-N7100 in the path.
Yes, I did connect to Kies by USB just once to check things out there but I don't think that's the underlying problem. Maybe it is.
I've seen some REAL genius help on this site, and hope that somebody that has a grasp on my problem can help.
I joined this site a few minutes ago just to ask this question, by the way.
If I went off track as to the posting guidelines on the site, just tell me.
Hey, I'm pushing 70 and the mind wanders. Haha!
Thanks in advance, guys!

Official_Noob said:
This is gonna be long, so please bear with me.
New Android user here, since December and never looked back.
But I have a big problem that just started two days ago, and coincided with the installation of Vonage for Android.
My N7100 is rooted and I also installed a new kernel (Perseus), but kept the stock ROM for the time being, but I'm getting closer to installing CyanogenMod ROM through ROManager Premium.
I just read the article posted here by Will Verduzco on Android security which led me to a bunch of articles on VOIP and it's scary.
My problem is that my N7100 will kind of do a half-baked reset without my doing anything... and then after watching the download light blinking on my router here in the house, Airport is downloading for about five minutes and then, BANG!!!, up comes the screen asking me for my language, and to set up a Google acct, Samsung acct, and I have to re-enter the passwords for my WiFi, etc, etc... you know the drill.
What's causing this?
I've been on XDA hundreds of times doing research on one thing or another, and I've removed all the Google bloatware possible except for the few things that I want to keep, and I got that comprehensive list from the XDA site... but after my device gets done doing it's thing, everything is back with dozens of notifications... AND Titanium Backup, ROM Manager, Triangle Away, SuperSu, Root Explorer, ES File Explorer/Task manager, etc are all missing and no backups on the SD card. WHAT!!!
One more thing which might be peripheral to my problem.
A couple of days ago I installed the new OS for my Mac... 10.9.
With my prior OS, I uninstalled almost all of anything that said "Google" from my computer but have to go through it again and repeat.
This morning, I do a search for anything Google on my drive, and came up with files with executable update files that all had "Android/GT-N7100 in the path.
Yes, I did connect to Kies by USB just once to check things out there but I don't think that's the underlying problem. Maybe it is.
I've seen some REAL genius help on this site, and hope that somebody that has a grasp on my problem can help.
I joined this site a few minutes ago just to ask this question, by the way.
If I went off track as to the posting guidelines on the site, just tell me.
Hey, I'm pushing 70 and the mind wanders. Haha!
Thanks in advance, guys!
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as for your note 2 problem, so your saying you flashed Cyangenmod on it correct? if so did you flash a the current gapps for whatever version you flashed? im thinking that's the problem, otherwise another flash of the cyangenmod ROM might fix it.

Trozzul said:
as for your note 2 problem, so your saying you flashed Cyangenmod on it correct? if so did you flash a the current gapps for whatever version you flashed? im thinking that's the problem, otherwise another flash of the cyangenmod ROM might fix it.
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^^^
No, I haven't flashed CM yet, but as I said, I'm moving in that direction after looking a a bunch of ROMs.
This is gonna sound kind of dumb, but the reason that I'm holding on to the stock rooted ROM is just because of one active screen saver, and that's Windy Weather. Like when it's raining here, you get rain drops sliding down the inside of the glass. HA!
And believe it or not, I agonize over the small stuff... like whether or not I want to go with an AOSP or AOKP ROM.
Believe it or not, when I got done with massaging the stock ROM today, all of the junk that I had formerly removed through Titanium Backup were still gone even though it showed that it was all re-downloaded in the Notifications.
I just have a sneaking hunch that the Vonage VOIP App that I installed had "something" to do with my problem, so I have not reinstalled it, and I also destroyed all of the Play Store links with Titanium Backup and still no problem.
I'm still running the stock 4.1.2 stock ROM.
Even if I do go with CM, I'm a little worried that if I download Gapps, something in there just might want to gain control and zap my device again.
Anywhooo... for the last several hours, I'm not having any problems.
Thanks for your reply.

Official_Noob said:
^^^
No, I haven't flashed CM yet, but as I said, I'm moving in that direction after looking a a bunch of ROMs.
This is gonna sound kind of dumb, but the reason that I'm holding on to the stock rooted ROM is just because of one active screen saver, and that's Windy Weather. Like when it's raining here, you get rain drops sliding down the inside of the glass. HA!
And believe it or not, I agonize over the small stuff... like whether or not I want to go with an AOSP or AOKP ROM.
Believe it or not, when I got done with massaging the stock ROM today, all of the junk that I had formerly removed through Titanium Backup were still gone even though it showed that it was all re-downloaded in the Notifications.
I just have a sneaking hunch that the Vonage VOIP App that I installed had "something" to do with my problem, so I have not reinstalled it, and I also destroyed all of the Play Store links with Titanium Backup and still no problem.
I'm still running the stock 4.1.2 stock ROM.
Even if I do go with CM, I'm a little worried that if I download Gapps, something in there just might want to gain control and zap my device again.
Anywhooo... for the last several hours, I'm not having any problems.
Thanks for your reply.
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yeah anytime man thanks for explaining a little bit, well if you want to stay on stock like ROM i would recommend jedi mind trick, its pretty much stock but just removes the carrier bloatware and puts in a few custom goodies and should have your rain drop effect you want xD, i have been trying to find a link for you but i dont know what carrier you have, its a note 2 right? also, it rains in las vegas? lol come over to washington and see the difference.