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Does OnePlus 6 support charging over USB Power Delivery standard? I have a couple USB-PD chargers laying around from Google Pixel so I would like to know if I will be able to take advantage of the charging standard if I get the OnePlus 6.
I'm not a fan of every phone manufacturer introduces their own fast-charging method. Huawei has SuperCharge, Oppo has VOOC, OnePlus has DashCharge.
Thankfully, Qualcomm Quick Charge 4.0 supports USB-PD which requires Snapdragon 845 CPU, which OnePlus 6 has onboard and Qualcomm's website also says that the OnePlus 6 supports QC4.0 so I assume the device would support USB Power Delivery standard too.
Can anyone confirm this? Thank you.
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Does OnePlus 6 support charging over USB Power Delivery standard? I have a couple USB-PD chargers laying around from Google Pixel so I would like to know if I will be able to take advantage of the charging standard if I get the OnePlus 6.
I'm not a fan of every phone manufacturer introduces their own fast-charging method. Huawei has SuperCharge, Oppo has VOOC, OnePlus has DashCharge.
Thankfully, Qualcomm Quick Charge 4.0 supports USB-PD which requires Snapdragon 845 CPU, which OnePlus 6 has onboard and Qualcomm's website also says that the OnePlus 6 supports QC4.0 so I assume the device would support USB Power Delivery standard too.
Can anyone confirm this? Thank you.
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No this device doesn't support PD. They use their own proprietary charging of Dash Charge. It's almosy equivalent to VOOC charging by OPPO.
Is this also the case with OP 6T? I thought I read somewhere that the 6T supported USB PD ?
To qualify, yes you can plug your phone into a USB Type C PD charger and it will charge BUT it will only charge at the slower rate. It would be like plugging it into a regular slow charger. So if u want to charge your device slowly then sure use a PD charger, you just won't get the benefit of fast charge.
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Cellphone Charge Protocol:
Huawei: SuperCharge & FastCharge
Xiaomi: Quick Charge 3.0 & 4.0
OPPO & Oneplus：VOOC/DASH
PD can't dash charge the Oneplus , It needs a converter.
So the data port on my Moto G3 is failing (loose), so I ordered a replacement part and figured I would keep it as a backup phone and move on to the Moto G6 as my main phone. I need a multi-port wall and car charger as mine are very old (As in single 5V voltage at 1 amp per port max) and figured that would be easy, just pick them up on Amazon.............NOT. I spent an entire day trying to figure out what was compatible with the phone (voltages, currents, wattages, fast charging technology) and as far as I can tell there is nothing out there. This is not just Motorola, as other manufacturers have their own standards. This really needs to be standardized.
I then contacted Anker. I mean come on, they have got to know right?. Here was their reply yesterday:
"But so sorry that the Moto G6 uses the exclusive turbo charge technology, we cannot guarantee 100% that our QC charger (Moto Turbo-charging is a quick charge technology based on QC) could charge the device fastly. "
It is bad enough every time I buy a new phone everything changes and I have to buy new chargers, cases, cables, sim cards, SD cards, etc. I am not saying that is a bad thing, as these technology changes usually mean improvements in speed, usability, reliability, etc. I just don't want to buy all this new stuff and have chargers that won't work with other devices I might buy shortly or be obsolete in months instead of years.
I guess I have to hold off until all of this stabilizes and standardizes. Thanks to Lineage my obsolete Moto G3 (According to Motorola) still runs great and has the latest security updates. My only concern is that the battery will be the next to go.
Every USB C charger I have plugged into my G6 has been compatible with turbopower charging... have used 3, one that came with it, my nexus 5X charger, and a cheap charging dock I got on amazon...
Could someone tell me what the model # and output electrical values are (Volts / Amps / Watts) that are written on the stock charger for the Moto G6. Motorola sells two different wall chargers with different specs. The output values should be specified as V / A/ W for 5V, 9V, and 12V.
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Could someone tell me what the model # and output electrical values are (Volts / Amps / Watts) that are written on the stock charger for the Moto G6. Motorola sells two different wall chargers with different specs. The output values should be specified as V / A/ W for 5V, 9V, and 12V.
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The charger I have for my G6 is either model SC-22 or SPN5993A (it's hard for me to tell next to all of this Chinese writing). The output is either 5V, 9V, or 12V.
Thanks. I was considering getting the on sale Moto G6 64 bit version today as it was only $259, but it is only available in the Indigo color. I will wait until the regular price lowers and the whole charging thing gets resolved. I ordered a part to fix my Moto G3 in the meantime. I also have a Nexus 4 as a backup phone so i am good to go for a while.
I can check tomorrow to be sure, but I think it uses the 5V 3A charging standard. I have a USB meeter that I can plug into the charger at work and see what it does. I don't think it does the 9V or 12V fast charge.
You simply need a QC 2.0 or 3.0 charger. Easy day. Both will turbo charge the Motorola. Ive used dozens of different brands on a few different Motorolas and they all turbo charge.
shawndak said:
You simply need a QC 2.0 or 3.0 charger. Easy day. Both will turbo charge the Motorola. Ive used dozens of different brands on a few different Motorolas and they all turbo charge.
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Thanks. I will get QC 3.0 chargers, unless if and when I decide to buy the phone, QC 4.0+ chargers are released and work with the Moto G6. I am probably going to wait for a non-Amazon 64GB RAM model to be released.
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... I am probably going to wait for a non-Amazon 64GB RAM model to be released.
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Especially if you are interested in unlocking the bootloader.
I too, just recently found that a 4/64 version of the regular G6 is available, but have only found the Amazon Prime version. I contacted Motorola and asked why this version is not available on their web site. So waiting to hear back.
32GB internal storage is just not enough, especially in the case of the X4, with the OS taking up 13GB.
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Especially if you are interested in unlocking the bootloader.
I too, just recently found that a 4/64 version of the regular G6 is available, but have only found the Amazon Prime version. I contacted Motorola and asked why this version is not available on their web site. So waiting to hear back.
32GB internal storage is just not enough, especially in the case of the X4, with the OS taking up 13GB.
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Yes , unlocking the bootloader is the main issue. Also, Lenovo is terrible with OS and security updates, both not timely and eventually not supporting the phone all together, so I would need the capability to install a ROM eventually, like what I did with my Moto G3.
Anker PowerCore+ 26800 with Qualcomm QuickCharge 3.0 (version that includes PowerPort+ 1 wall charger) QC 3.0 port (blue one on the right) charges Moto G6 in TurboPower charging mode, also the charger that comes with it works same way, both charge phone very quickly. Just like charger that came with the phone.
Using Anker USB C 3.0 braided and PVC cables.
I'm guessing any Qualcomm QC 3.0 -type charger will run in TurboPower mode with this phone.
I can't verify quick charge but I can verify that any phone charger supporting power delivery (type c "standard" for charging fast and not proprietary like quick charge) will definitely activate turbocharging.
Edit... After scouring the internet for a few minutes I'd just stick with power delivery chargers as it seems that quick charge chargers (qualcomms proprietary fast charging method) is a mixed bag of results as the G6 doesn't officially support quick charge while if you purchase a power delivery charger it'll just work.
We have the Moto G6, Nexus 6P (Huawei) and Moto Nexus 6 - the OEM Moto charger with the OEM cable obviously enabled the Turbo charging mode, the same charger does fast charging on the Nexus 6P as well as the old Nexus 6. Traded into Google my old Nexus 5X but kept the OEM USB-C fast charger, which works with all these 3 smartphones, I can't recall at the moment whether it's Turbo and/or Fast charging mode, as I left that at home and we are traveling on the road this weekend.
What I've noticed is that, sometimes, it will depend on the specific USB-C cable that I am using and/or possibly using one of the "certified" USB-C adapter plug (with the resistor) and an OEM/quality micro-USB charging cable with all the pins wired correctly.
On the road, I've been using an Anker 4-usb port charger that put out 2.4 amp per port at 5V (up to a max of 7.2 amp ... average of 1.8 amp) and it does charging these 3 devices fast, maybe not "turbo" mode. The speed is more than good and quick enough, won't take overnight hours to bring it up to 100%.
Moto G6 is stock OEM rom whereas N6P and Nexus 6 are custom roms.
the moto g6 play also support turbocharge it just doesnt come with the turbocharger block. i used my cousins block from his z2 force and everytime i connect it the phone says "turbo power connected" the moto g6 play is also not usb-c. the block that came with the phone only does as the phone says "rapidly charging" so yea its kinda weird lol
ninjakira said:
the moto g6 play also support turbocharge it just doesnt come with the turbocharger block. i used my cousins block from his z2 force and everytime i connect it the phone says "turbo power connected" the moto g6 play is also not usb-c. the block that came with the phone only does as the phone says "rapidly charging" so yea its kinda weird lol
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Thanks. I'm actually considering grabbing a g6 play as a backup/work phone. I have a g6 with the turbocharger block. I'll probably have to grab a block once I test the g6 play... I bought that phone for my dad and he loves it... unlocked, of course.
It works with standard PD (5V, 9V) charger when I making a reply
Just to reaffirm, it works with a Power Delivery (PD) charger. QC is not the supported charging standard on the G6. So buy a charger that uses the PD standard.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B077HFFLMS/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MA10GH9/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07214QNQX/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I have both these charger blocks and those Anker cables. I don't have exact numbers but I know they charge my G6+ and my girlfriends X4 very fast and my G6+ says Turbo Power when connecting the charger.
Doesn't look like I already commented, but the Moto G6 uses the 5V 3A fast charge method, went to about 2.3A at most, it doesn't go to the 9v. I used a USB C amp meter that also shows voltage and is capable of fast charging. I know this works because it activates the Power delivery for my Chromebook with USB C and goes to 15V.
In general, there's two considerations here.
1.) Turbocharge is a fork of the QuickCharge specification. Anything rated for QuickCharge should work with it to some extent.
2.) the USB signalling is important. since the G6 uses a type C connector and specification, it is not technically always using the same signaling wires as USB 2.0, 3.0 type A (the big flat connector we all know and love)
So, if you're wanting to make sure everything works as it should, and is as broadly compatible as possible, make sure that the charger you are using is rated as at least Quickcharge 3.0, and that the cable you're using is certified for USB 3.1 (or 3.1 gen 2 as it is confusingly called) a lot of the USB-A to USB-c cables you'll find out there are actually usb 3.0 (also called USB 3.1 gen 1, ugh this naming convention), or even USB 2.0, cables with a type C connector slapped on them if you're getting some cheap chinese junk off amazon or ebay. Also remember that USB 3.1 cables are length sensetive, and should not be over 2 meteres (about 6 ft) long unless you are using what is called an 'active cable.' These have microchips in their connectors and are generally more expensive.
Basically, when the charger is unplugged, the adapter runs in 5V mode, which is safe and good. But when the tablet is connected, then it is upgraded to 9V mode. any USB devices connected with a splitter on the charger wire will receive 9V also! This near doubling of voltage could cause devices to be fried, so make sure your Huawei power adapter isn't powering any hubs!!
YouTube demo video coming soon, overvolting a fan!
Good catch!
Thanks for sharing.
I thought charges and/or device ports had a regulator to control input voltage?
CorruptedSanity said:
Good catch!
Thanks for sharing.
I thought charges and/or device ports had a regulator to control input voltage?
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Most electronics with a USB port will only be rated for say 5v, or maybe 6v to allow for naughty USB power supplies. 9v is nearly double 5v, and on sensitive low-tech chargers, like resistive ones that charge 18650 or whatever, you could expose the battery to a much higher voltage than what it should have, which could cause an explosion or whatever. I used a fan since it should be able to handle the extra voltage quite happily.
What do you mean fan?
Used a fan to cool what?
Michaelflat1 said:
Basically, when the charger is unplugged, the adapter runs in 5V mode, which is safe and good. But when the tablet is connected, then it is upgraded to 9V mode. any USB devices connected with a splitter on the charger wire will receive 9V also! This near doubling of voltage could cause devices to be fried, so make sure your Huawei power adapter isn't powering any hubs!!
YouTube demo video coming soon, overvolting a fan!
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There is not problem at all. Qualcomm charge technology and USB 3.1 do the same. The charger and the device negotiate what voltage they want to send the same power but less current (more efficient). You are not supposed to o what you did, it your fault and not from Huawei.
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There is not problem at all. Qualcomm charge technology and USB 3.1 do the same. The charger and the device negotiate what voltage they want to send the same power but less current (more efficient). You are not supposed to o what you did, it your fault and not from Huawei.
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what I was getting at is that if you were to use a splitter, like I did, then be careful, as the voltage might raise. This is not a concern most of the time, but it's good to just be careful.
My OnePlus 5T and it's dash charging only works when these 3 conditions are satisfied:
Dash charger
Stock OnePlus lead
Nothing else plugged in
otherwise it will default down to normal. It's a shame that this didn't happen on the Huawei charger, but hopefully this means that it will be easier for implementation for powerbanks, I can't find any dash charge power banks. And also apparently Huawei phones usually play nice with other chargers. (USB-C power delivery I'm not sure on this device).
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what I was getting at is that if you were to use a splitter, like I did, then be careful, as the voltage might raise. This is not a concern most of the time, but it's good to just be careful.
My OnePlus 5T and it's dash charging only works when these 3 conditions are satisfied:
Dash charger
Stock OnePlus lead
Nothing else plugged in
otherwise it will default down to normal. It's a shame that this didn't happen on the Huawei charger, but hopefully this means that it will be easier for implementation for powerbanks, I can't find any dash charge power banks. And also apparently Huawei phones usually play nice with other chargers. (USB-C power delivery I'm not sure on this device).
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I am just annoyed that Huawei do not use QC or USB-PD standards and I must use their charge to charge fast. I do not mind the 9v as my QC devices charges fast on the Huawei charger but not the other way round, forcing me to either change all my chargers or carry an extra charger.
Not sure if you are talking about FCP for in or out of powerbank, I have a Tronsmart powerbank that supports both QC3 and FCP out. It also supports QC in, which means it MAY charge faster with the Huawei's stock charger. I had not tested it that way yet but I think it should as the Huawei charger charges my other QC devices at QC speed.
Tronsmart Presto Power bank:
https://www.tronsmart.com/products/tronsmart-presto-10000mah-quick-charge-3-0-power-bank
Note that their own specifications regarding the input is incorrect, this picture shows the actual specifications behind the device, which shows it can take [email protected] in.
https://the-gadgeteer.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/tronsmart-presto-3.jpg
Also refer to my thread from a while back discussing FCP and QC.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mediapad-m5/help/m5-quick-charge-t3822277
alvinlwh said:
I am just annoyed that Huawei do not use QC or USB-PD standards and I must use their charge to charge fast. I do not mind the 9v as my QC devices charges fast on the Huawei charger but not the other way round, forcing me to either change all my chargers or carry an extra charger.
Not sure if you are talking about FCP for in or out of powerbank, I have a Tronsmart powerbank that supports both QC3 and FCP out. It also supports QC in, which means it MAY charge faster with the Huawei's stock charger. I had not tested it that way yet but I think it should as the Huawei charger charges my other QC devices at QC speed.
Tronsmart Presto Power bank:
https://www.tronsmart.com/products/tronsmart-presto-10000mah-quick-charge-3-0-power-bank
Note that their own specifications regarding the input is incorrect, this picture shows the actual specifications behind the device, which shows it can take [email protected] in.
https://the-gadgeteer.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/tronsmart-presto-3.jpg
Also refer to my thread from a while back discussing FCP and QC.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mediapad-m5/help/m5-quick-charge-t3822277
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I know your trouble, I have a OP5t, and that charges at 7.5W from my Huawei charger, when it can charge at 20W using dash charger, my mediapad charges at 10W from the dash charger, out of 18w capability. I do look silly carrying round two chargers with the same plug on them!!
Yeah no dash charger power bank, at least there is a Huawei FCP one like you said, I might get that as my next one, but I've got a lovely EC technologies powerbank, and that only does 10W no matter what, shame really as it is 82whr (massive!).
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I know your trouble, I have a OP5t, and that charges at 7.5W from my Huawei charger, when it can charge at 20W using dash charger, my mediapad charges at 10W from the dash charger, out of 18w capability. I do look silly carrying round two chargers with the same plug on them!!
Yeah no dash charger power bank, at least there is a Huawei FCP one like you said, I might get that as my next one, but I've got a lovely EC technologies powerbank, and that only does 10W no matter what, shame really as it is 82whr (massive!).
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Luckily (for me at least!), I do not normally carry my M5 around and therefore do not need quick charge on it. Even if taken on holiday, it can charge overnight in the hotel. However this put me off Huawei (and OnePlue, Oppo and any other brands that do not use QC standards) for my future purchase.
Wow, I didn't realize how bad this bites. MediaPad was my first QC3 device. Used it's charger in my bedroom. Then got a LG v35 QC3 phone last week to replace old Nexus 6P (USB C-PD). So excited to see the Huawei charger fast-charging both devices. So irritating to now realize that the LG QC3 charger won't fast charge the M5!
And Huawei is using a proprietary QC3 charging mechanism? ie. are there any compatible chargers on Amazon or only the charger from Huawei will fast charge the M5?
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Wow, I didn't realize how bad this bites. MediaPad was my first QC3 device. Used it's charger in my bedroom. Then got a LG v35 QC3 phone last week to replace old Nexus 6P (USB C-PD). So excited to see the Huawei charger fast-charging both devices. So irritating to now realize that the LG QC3 charger won't fast charge the M5!
And Huawei is using a proprietary QC3 charging mechanism? ie. are there any compatible chargers on Amazon or only the charger from Huawei will fast charge the M5?
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Sorry, Huawei does not use QC standards but their own FCP/SCP instead. QC chargers will not fast charge Huawei gear but Huawei charger MAY charge QC gear fast.
So if I plug my M5 into a standard QC3.0 charger (9v I think), does it at least charge somewhat faster than a standard, non-QC charger? I would assume so. And are they're any 3rd party fasxt chargers compatible w/Huawei's dumbarse proprietary QC3 charging?
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So if I plug my M5 into a standard QC3.0 charger (9v I think), does it at least charge somewhat faster than a standard, non-QC charger? I would assume so. And are they're any 3rd party fasxt chargers compatible w/Huawei's dumbarse proprietary QC3 charging?
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No it doesn't, as confirmed by a V/A USB meter. It will only top out at 5V/2A.
I repeat again, Huawei does NOT use QC3 technology, but FCP/SCP technology. If you are looking for a charger that can do both QC and FCP from the same socket, read through the tread again as I had already posted a brand and model that had been tested and confirmed to do both.
Ah, sorry, me dumb and had in my head that M5 was QC3. Now I get it -- FCP, not same as QC3. OK, I see your link and several other chargers compatible w/QC3 and FCP. Thanks!
Hi,
I have a ThinkPad E580 which comes along with a charger Type-C, on the charger has been written : OUTPUT: 20V-3.25A / 15V-3A / 9V-2A / 5V-2A
Is it safe to try charge my MediaPad M5 by this charger?
sz.hatef said:
Hi,
I have a ThinkPad E580 which comes along with a charger Type-C, on the charger has been written : OUTPUT: 20V-3.25A / 15V-3A / 9V-2A / 5V-2A
Is it safe to try charge my MediaPad M5 by this charger?
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I had used USB PD adaptors on the M5 before and it charges fine, but not quickly.
My Pad (M5 10.8 WiFi) charges via USB PD with 18 Watts using the 9 Volt Profile. What doesn't work is Quick Charge. Power delivery works fine
Is there anything special about the actual Huawei furnished cable? I need a longer one than what was furnished.
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Is there anything special about the actual Huawei furnished cable? I need a longer one than what was furnished.
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Nothing whatsoever
But get a good one that supports high wattage.
Some cables only transmit 5 watts
Meaning 5v and 1 amp
Technology from 2005
I switched to a 1+7P (T-mobile locked variant) yesterday and I understand that it uses proprietary fast-charging. This is an upgrade from an LG G6 which uses Qualcomm's QuickCharge 3.0. I understand that right now the 7P doesnt support QC3. But is QC3 something that's integrated into the SoC itself or is it software-driven? If it's the former, would it be possible to enable QC3 in the future?
Integrated into SoC. OPPO created VOOC which is known as Dash Charging to OnePlus. Its there competing technology with Qualcomm and with the advancement with our superior Warp Charging I highly doubt OnePlus will see any version of QC anytime soon.
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I switched to a 1+7P (T-mobile locked variant) yesterday and I understand that it uses proprietary fast-charging. This is an upgrade from an LG G6 which uses Qualcomm's QuickCharge 3.0. I understand that right now the 7P doesnt support QC3. But is QC3 something that's integrated into the SoC itself or is it software-driven? If it's the former, would it be possible to enable QC3 in the future?
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I don't think it'll ever happen. The big thing about OnePlus's Dash Charge and Warp Charge is that all the stress is on the charger module itself and not the phone, so the phone barely heats up. From what I gather, they are completely different technologies that cannot (and will not) work together.
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I don't think it'll ever happen. The big thing about OnePlus's Dash Charge and Warp Charge is that all the stress is on the charger module itself and not the phone, so the phone barely heats up. From what I gather, they are completely different technologies that cannot (and will not) work together.
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Oh, I think Dash Charge is great. It's faster than QC3 by a mile. But I have an Auckey dual-port charger with QC support that I really liked using that is now basically just a generic charger.
RobbieL241 said:
Oh, I think Dash Charge is great. It's faster than QC3 by a mile. But I have an Auckey dual-port charger with QC support that I really liked using that is now basically just a generic charger.
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Same boat here. Last 3 phones I had were the Moto X Pure, Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge and Galaxy S9. I have 4 10W wireless chargers, 7 QC 3.0 wall chargers, 3 cars with QC 3.0 chargers, and 4 QC 3.0 portable batteries. I suppose the rest of my family can keep using those, but I've got some purchasing to do.
Op7 does support usb-pd. My nightstand chargers is a pixel charger. Not as fast as dash obviously, but faster than a basic and was much cheaper than an extra oneplus dash charger
Will Moto Edge support the newly announced Qualcomm Quick Charge 3+?
So far I know it supports 18 watts PD
I think I read that it supports TurboPower, which is Motorola's branding of QC3.
Here's their 18-watt TurboPower charger ... it's QuickCharge.
It might support USB-C PD as well, but I'm guessing it's QC3-capable.