It only says Huawei quick charge in the charger. I was wondering if an external battery with qualcoms quickcharge 3.0 will charge just like the huawei's wall adapter
Correct me someone if I am wrong
But this is not qualcomm or snapdragon
This is an Huawei entirely made by Huaweis technologies like the HiSilicon and Kirin
Thats why it only says Huawei quick charge
And external battery will depend how you charge it
But I think it should only work with qualcomm and not Huawei
brljak83 said:
Correct me someone if I am wrong
But this is not qualcomm or snapdragon
This is an Huawei entirely made by Huaweis technologies like the HiSilicon and Kirin
Thats why it only says Huawei quick charge
And external battery will depend how you charge it
But I think it should only work with qualcomm and not Huawei
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Correct, not Qualcomm QuickCharge technology, but proprietary Huawei quick charge.
Anker makes some good 'auto sensing' chargers that will charge the H8 pretty darn quick, however.
dwcasey said:
Correct, not Qualcomm QuickCharge technology, but proprietary Huawei quick charge.
Anker makes some good 'auto sensing' chargers that will charge the H8 pretty darn quick, however.
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Yea I do have an Anker powerbank which has "IQ Charge" and its pretty fast but not as quick as the huawei's charger
The Honor phones are not Qualcomm Quick Charge compatible. The Huawei Quick Charger that comes with the phone supports both Huawei Quick Charge and Qualcomm Quick Charge 2 according to its specs. So if you have an external battery that supports Qualcomm Quick Charge 3.0, you won't get the 3.0 speed from Huawei's charger, but it probably is quite fast (since I would assume your external battery also accepts Qualcomm Quick Charge 2).
Anker and Tronsmart QC3.0 and other proprietary fast charge speed up H8 charging, opposed to standard 2A chargers. Seem a bit slower than original charger but not by far.
Huawei uses their own fast charger.
OnePlus do the same.
When you already in this situation just try it out a d you will see how fast it will be.. and then let us know how it went.. maybe you will help someone.. I would also like to know if it will fast charge and if how fast
Any Qualcomm Quick Charger (1.0, 2.0, 3.0) will recognize that the Honor 8 is not compatible and will default back to the maximum amperage the phone's internal circuitry will allow. Not sure if it's 2A, 2.1A or what... but it basically doesn't matter what the charger is capable of if it's NOT a Huawei Fast Charger. It's speed will be dictated by the phone. Huawei's Fast Charger is the only charger that can get you the fastest charging speed on the Honor 8 and does so without heating up your device, which is the safest way to fast charge.
Huawei Fast Chargers can be found on eBay all day long for $10. There's very little reason to buy anything else since it too can charge Qualcomm QC phones and batteries.
I've tried charging mine with Aukey PB-T10 powerbank, which supports QC 3.0 (but not Huawei FCP). To my surprise, the phone shows "Fast Charging". Similar power draw between original charger and this one (9V, 1.2-1.4A), based on USB Doctor. And similar charging time too.
I've also tried with a QC 2.0 charger and it's just normal charging.
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I've tried charging mine with Aukey PB-T10 powerbank, which supports QC 3.0 (but not Huawei FCP). To my surprise, the phone shows "Fast Charging". Similar power draw between original charger and this one (9V, 1.2-1.4A), based on USB Doctor. And similar charging time too.
I've also tried with a QC 2.0 charger and it's just normal charging.
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Wow, thats nice. Can I have the link? Is it this one?
Yes. This is my personal finding and nowhere an official statement :fingers-crossed:
A good QC3.0 would give very similar charging times as the original charger. I've not been using the original one and use one QC3.0 at home and another at work and they're pretty dam fast.
Basically, when the charger is unplugged, the adapter runs in 5V mode, which is safe and good. But when the tablet is connected, then it is upgraded to 9V mode. any USB devices connected with a splitter on the charger wire will receive 9V also! This near doubling of voltage could cause devices to be fried, so make sure your Huawei power adapter isn't powering any hubs!!
YouTube demo video coming soon, overvolting a fan!
Good catch!
Thanks for sharing.
I thought charges and/or device ports had a regulator to control input voltage?
CorruptedSanity said:
Good catch!
Thanks for sharing.
I thought charges and/or device ports had a regulator to control input voltage?
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Most electronics with a USB port will only be rated for say 5v, or maybe 6v to allow for naughty USB power supplies. 9v is nearly double 5v, and on sensitive low-tech chargers, like resistive ones that charge 18650 or whatever, you could expose the battery to a much higher voltage than what it should have, which could cause an explosion or whatever. I used a fan since it should be able to handle the extra voltage quite happily.
What do you mean fan?
Used a fan to cool what?
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Basically, when the charger is unplugged, the adapter runs in 5V mode, which is safe and good. But when the tablet is connected, then it is upgraded to 9V mode. any USB devices connected with a splitter on the charger wire will receive 9V also! This near doubling of voltage could cause devices to be fried, so make sure your Huawei power adapter isn't powering any hubs!!
YouTube demo video coming soon, overvolting a fan!
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There is not problem at all. Qualcomm charge technology and USB 3.1 do the same. The charger and the device negotiate what voltage they want to send the same power but less current (more efficient). You are not supposed to o what you did, it your fault and not from Huawei.
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There is not problem at all. Qualcomm charge technology and USB 3.1 do the same. The charger and the device negotiate what voltage they want to send the same power but less current (more efficient). You are not supposed to o what you did, it your fault and not from Huawei.
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what I was getting at is that if you were to use a splitter, like I did, then be careful, as the voltage might raise. This is not a concern most of the time, but it's good to just be careful.
My OnePlus 5T and it's dash charging only works when these 3 conditions are satisfied:
Dash charger
Stock OnePlus lead
Nothing else plugged in
otherwise it will default down to normal. It's a shame that this didn't happen on the Huawei charger, but hopefully this means that it will be easier for implementation for powerbanks, I can't find any dash charge power banks. And also apparently Huawei phones usually play nice with other chargers. (USB-C power delivery I'm not sure on this device).
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what I was getting at is that if you were to use a splitter, like I did, then be careful, as the voltage might raise. This is not a concern most of the time, but it's good to just be careful.
My OnePlus 5T and it's dash charging only works when these 3 conditions are satisfied:
Dash charger
Stock OnePlus lead
Nothing else plugged in
otherwise it will default down to normal. It's a shame that this didn't happen on the Huawei charger, but hopefully this means that it will be easier for implementation for powerbanks, I can't find any dash charge power banks. And also apparently Huawei phones usually play nice with other chargers. (USB-C power delivery I'm not sure on this device).
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I am just annoyed that Huawei do not use QC or USB-PD standards and I must use their charge to charge fast. I do not mind the 9v as my QC devices charges fast on the Huawei charger but not the other way round, forcing me to either change all my chargers or carry an extra charger.
Not sure if you are talking about FCP for in or out of powerbank, I have a Tronsmart powerbank that supports both QC3 and FCP out. It also supports QC in, which means it MAY charge faster with the Huawei's stock charger. I had not tested it that way yet but I think it should as the Huawei charger charges my other QC devices at QC speed.
Tronsmart Presto Power bank:
https://www.tronsmart.com/products/tronsmart-presto-10000mah-quick-charge-3-0-power-bank
Note that their own specifications regarding the input is incorrect, this picture shows the actual specifications behind the device, which shows it can take [email protected] in.
https://the-gadgeteer.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/tronsmart-presto-3.jpg
Also refer to my thread from a while back discussing FCP and QC.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mediapad-m5/help/m5-quick-charge-t3822277
alvinlwh said:
I am just annoyed that Huawei do not use QC or USB-PD standards and I must use their charge to charge fast. I do not mind the 9v as my QC devices charges fast on the Huawei charger but not the other way round, forcing me to either change all my chargers or carry an extra charger.
Not sure if you are talking about FCP for in or out of powerbank, I have a Tronsmart powerbank that supports both QC3 and FCP out. It also supports QC in, which means it MAY charge faster with the Huawei's stock charger. I had not tested it that way yet but I think it should as the Huawei charger charges my other QC devices at QC speed.
Tronsmart Presto Power bank:
https://www.tronsmart.com/products/tronsmart-presto-10000mah-quick-charge-3-0-power-bank
Note that their own specifications regarding the input is incorrect, this picture shows the actual specifications behind the device, which shows it can take [email protected] in.
https://the-gadgeteer.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/tronsmart-presto-3.jpg
Also refer to my thread from a while back discussing FCP and QC.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mediapad-m5/help/m5-quick-charge-t3822277
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I know your trouble, I have a OP5t, and that charges at 7.5W from my Huawei charger, when it can charge at 20W using dash charger, my mediapad charges at 10W from the dash charger, out of 18w capability. I do look silly carrying round two chargers with the same plug on them!!
Yeah no dash charger power bank, at least there is a Huawei FCP one like you said, I might get that as my next one, but I've got a lovely EC technologies powerbank, and that only does 10W no matter what, shame really as it is 82whr (massive!).
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I know your trouble, I have a OP5t, and that charges at 7.5W from my Huawei charger, when it can charge at 20W using dash charger, my mediapad charges at 10W from the dash charger, out of 18w capability. I do look silly carrying round two chargers with the same plug on them!!
Yeah no dash charger power bank, at least there is a Huawei FCP one like you said, I might get that as my next one, but I've got a lovely EC technologies powerbank, and that only does 10W no matter what, shame really as it is 82whr (massive!).
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Luckily (for me at least!), I do not normally carry my M5 around and therefore do not need quick charge on it. Even if taken on holiday, it can charge overnight in the hotel. However this put me off Huawei (and OnePlue, Oppo and any other brands that do not use QC standards) for my future purchase.
Wow, I didn't realize how bad this bites. MediaPad was my first QC3 device. Used it's charger in my bedroom. Then got a LG v35 QC3 phone last week to replace old Nexus 6P (USB C-PD). So excited to see the Huawei charger fast-charging both devices. So irritating to now realize that the LG QC3 charger won't fast charge the M5!
And Huawei is using a proprietary QC3 charging mechanism? ie. are there any compatible chargers on Amazon or only the charger from Huawei will fast charge the M5?
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Wow, I didn't realize how bad this bites. MediaPad was my first QC3 device. Used it's charger in my bedroom. Then got a LG v35 QC3 phone last week to replace old Nexus 6P (USB C-PD). So excited to see the Huawei charger fast-charging both devices. So irritating to now realize that the LG QC3 charger won't fast charge the M5!
And Huawei is using a proprietary QC3 charging mechanism? ie. are there any compatible chargers on Amazon or only the charger from Huawei will fast charge the M5?
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Sorry, Huawei does not use QC standards but their own FCP/SCP instead. QC chargers will not fast charge Huawei gear but Huawei charger MAY charge QC gear fast.
So if I plug my M5 into a standard QC3.0 charger (9v I think), does it at least charge somewhat faster than a standard, non-QC charger? I would assume so. And are they're any 3rd party fasxt chargers compatible w/Huawei's dumbarse proprietary QC3 charging?
StephenMSmith said:
So if I plug my M5 into a standard QC3.0 charger (9v I think), does it at least charge somewhat faster than a standard, non-QC charger? I would assume so. And are they're any 3rd party fasxt chargers compatible w/Huawei's dumbarse proprietary QC3 charging?
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No it doesn't, as confirmed by a V/A USB meter. It will only top out at 5V/2A.
I repeat again, Huawei does NOT use QC3 technology, but FCP/SCP technology. If you are looking for a charger that can do both QC and FCP from the same socket, read through the tread again as I had already posted a brand and model that had been tested and confirmed to do both.
Ah, sorry, me dumb and had in my head that M5 was QC3. Now I get it -- FCP, not same as QC3. OK, I see your link and several other chargers compatible w/QC3 and FCP. Thanks!
Hi,
I have a ThinkPad E580 which comes along with a charger Type-C, on the charger has been written : OUTPUT: 20V-3.25A / 15V-3A / 9V-2A / 5V-2A
Is it safe to try charge my MediaPad M5 by this charger?
sz.hatef said:
Hi,
I have a ThinkPad E580 which comes along with a charger Type-C, on the charger has been written : OUTPUT: 20V-3.25A / 15V-3A / 9V-2A / 5V-2A
Is it safe to try charge my MediaPad M5 by this charger?
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I had used USB PD adaptors on the M5 before and it charges fine, but not quickly.
My Pad (M5 10.8 WiFi) charges via USB PD with 18 Watts using the 9 Volt Profile. What doesn't work is Quick Charge. Power delivery works fine
Is there anything special about the actual Huawei furnished cable? I need a longer one than what was furnished.
reubenray said:
Is there anything special about the actual Huawei furnished cable? I need a longer one than what was furnished.
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Nothing whatsoever
But get a good one that supports high wattage.
Some cables only transmit 5 watts
Meaning 5v and 1 amp
Technology from 2005
Will the 45w fast charger for samsung note 10 plus be compatible with warp charge for my 7 Pro? Or, will a oneplus car charger with warp charge still fast charge the note 10 plus??
Or which charger should i get for the fastest charging possible for both phones in mind?
yikchandev said:
Will the 45w fast charger for samsung note 10 plus be compatible with warp charge for my 7 Pro? Or, will a oneplus car charger with warp charge still fast charge the note 10 plus??
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Warp charging is OnePlus specific. It requires heat management on the charger side, and only a Warp-specific charger will do that. I remember from the OnePlus 3T (which had "Dash" charging, of which Warp is just an updated version) folks found that Oppo "VOOC" chargers were compatible with the 3T's Dash charging. One person said that Dash was simply a rebranding of the VOOC fast charging technology (and in fact just same charger but different color and band name on it). Oppo owns a part of OnePlus, and I think OnePlus even uses Oppo's manufacturing facilities, if I remember correctly. So it might be the same with Warp (an Oppo charger may work).
Otherwise, no other charger is going to work unless it says OnePlus and Warp on it.
I don't follow Samsung very closely. I remember their fast charging being proprietary, but not as "picky" as OnePlus. It's not a choice on the OnePlus/Warp side. So you should probably start with the Warp car charger, and see if it fast charges on the Note 10. That's probably the best you can do.
It has definitely become a problem that phone fast-charging technology is not standardized. Too many companies want to use their own proprietary fast charging system, to differentiate themselves from the competition (and to credit OnePlus, Warp is pretty darned impressive!). Qualcomm tried to standardize this, for at least phones with Snapdragon chipsets, with their Quick Charge (QC) technology. But there are even some companies (I think Samsung is one) that disabled QC on Snapdragon phones. And of course, not all phones use Snapdragon chipsets.