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Any suggestions? I'm looking for something that can do the quick charging in the car, is that even possible? Can it be done with a dual port so my wife and I can use the quick charger at the same time?
http://www.amazon.com/Charger-PowerIQ-Technology-Samsung-Motorola/dp/B00M43S18Y/ - Would this one support quick charging in the car?
Also,
http://www.amazon.com/Anker®-Extra-Premium-Android-Samsung/dp/B00NPP7TVU
This is basically the same cable that came with my S6 just longer correct? The included cable is too short to plug in near my night stand.
Any charger that is a 2amp charger... and any cable.. i have tried all my old cables on the s6 charger... all allow fast charge... and its charger is 2amp.... same as nexus 7 and all other newer devices... so just go with a 2 amp charger and enjoy the fast charge. And yes they make dual port 2 amp chargers... usually 1 port is 2 amp and second one is like 1 or 1.4amp... i have 2 cheap ones from amazon myself... will test them with the phone tomorrow and update you.
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Any charger that is a 2amp charger... and any cable.. i have tried all my old cables on the s6 charger... all allow fast charge... and its charger is 2amp.... same as nexus 7 and all other newer devices... so just go with a 2 amp charger and enjoy the fast charge. And yes they make dual port 2 amp chargers... usually 1 port is 2 amp and second one is like 1 or 1.4amp... i have 2 cheap ones from amazon myself... will test them with the phone tomorrow and update you.
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any cable will work, but not every 2.0A charger will work. i tested it with a 2.0A (not the Samsung one) charger and "fast charging" did not show up in the phone.
AFAIK, you have to use one of Samsung's OEM chargers or one capable of the Quick Charge 2.0 standard for adaptive fast charging.
OP, i only did a cursory search, but i found this dual Quick Charge 2.0 charger that might meet your needs: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00TGD79X8?psc=1
Interesting, I didn't think to check for QC 2.0. I was thinking the Anker one did that. Thanks!
That being said though, anyone have experience with any of them with how they hold up?
Verizon sells one, it is their generic branding, it's the only one that I have seen or tried that is marketed that it is QC 2.0, works great even has a built in LED flash light basically. Sucks that it is $34.99 though.
http://www.verizonwireless.com/accessories/verizon-vehicle-charger-with-fast-charge-technology-for-micro-usb/
From my understanding Quick Charge 2.0 is a Qualcomm Snapdragon 801 (or newer) processor feature. The Galaxy S6 is running Samsung's Exynos 7420 processor which features Adaptive Fast Charging. I don't know how they vary in terms of performance, but I do know that when I plug in my Quick Charge 2.0, my S6 recognizes it as a fast charger. Battery went from 40% to 63% in 13 mins so I'm assuming both charging standards are compatible lol..
Try this car charger, worked great for my Qualcomm based phones.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008VMP90A/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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From my understanding Quick Charge 2.0 is a Qualcomm Snapdragon 801 (or newer) processor feature. The Galaxy S6 is running Samsung's Exynos 7420 processor which features Adaptive Fast Charging. I don't know how they vary in terms of performance, but I do know that when I plug in my Quick Charge 2.0, my S6 recognizes it as a fast charger. Battery went from 40% to 63% in 13 mins so I'm assuming both charging standards are compatible lol..
Try this car charger, worked great for my Qualcomm based phones.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008VMP90A/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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i'm reasonably sure it's the same standard. the Note 4 (Snapdragon 805) is listed on Qualcolm's website as compatible with QC 2.0. however, if you look at Samsung's website, it only lists Adaptive Fast Charging. Samsung just rebranded QC 2.0 as their own Adaptive Fast Charging. you can use all devices interchangeably.
also, the OP wanted a dual port QC 2.0 charger. that one only has 1 port w/ QC 2.0
I have already Anker 2 amp car charger in hand and i was thinking it wont be fast enough , i have seen video where quaclom demonstrated that Quick charging is faster than 2 amps charging , and judging by the fact that Samsung is providing comparable charging time with stock charger i was thinking that it is more than 5V 2.0 Amps .. too bad i am waiting for my phone to arrive.
http://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B00SJU6EIK?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00
I just purchased this.
I purchased this one from amazon when I had my Note 4 and I can confirm it works great with the S6. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00P9UILUM/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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any cable will work, but not every 2.0A charger will work. i tested it with a 2.0A (not the Samsung one) charger and "fast charging" did not show up in the phone.
AFAIK, you have to use one of Samsung's OEM chargers or one capable of the Quick Charge 2.0 standard for adaptive fast charging.
OP, i only did a cursory search, but i found this dual Quick Charge 2.0 charger that might meet your needs: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00TGD79X8?psc=1
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Yep. Your right sir. Just tried all my 2.0 / 2.1 amp chargers... not quick charging... guess ill grab some qc 2.0 amp chargers from amazon for car and backups.
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I purchased this one from amazon when I had my Note 4 and I can confirm it works great with the S6. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00P9UILUM/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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This is the one I was looking at, thanks!
I picked up a T-Mobile V20 2 days ago. Rooted it the same night, and tested out a few chargers I had laying around to make sure the ones I had, along with cables, worked properly after having most everything not work properly with my Pixel XL.
The stock charger would not charge my phone at more than 3 watts (but I never touched the stock charger until I started noticing the issue).
A Samsung QC charger, with any cable, would not charge my phone more than 9 watts.
An Anker PowerPort+ 1, Type C, QC 3.0 charger, with any cable (to include Anker cables and the Pixel XL OEM cable), will not charge over 12 watts.
Absolutely NONE of my QC 3.0 car chargers register as "fast charging" - these include an iVoler Type C and USB A, Anker USB A, Tronsmart Type C, with various cables. A standard cabled Type C charger from i-Orange does not say "fast charging," but seems to be charging at 5V/3A as it is MUCH faster than all the others.
The ONLY charger that is fast charging my phone is the Pixel XL OEM charger. Measured at the wall, it has peaked at 19.2 watts.
I'm really confused. I don't know if my QC 3.0 has been defective since I got the phone, or if plugging my phone into the USB PD Pixel XL charger somehow screwed things up...
Does anyone have any ideas here?
All my old QC chargers work and I'm currently using the note 7 oem one atm as it does not get as hot (charger not phone) as the LG oem one under load. What does the app ampere say your getting?
It takes a while, try a very low battery and give it 10 minutes or more screen off, must be cool too
I got an existing aukey qc 2.0 fast charging fine while using a Samsung adaptive fast charger also fine, I am waiting for my qc 3.0 aukey one to be arrived possibly tomorrow to see if I could charge faster and lower temperature than my existing ones, I cannot check the watts though
My phone is either defective (not surprising given LG's GARBAGE quality control) or the software has somehow screwed up from root, etc. (highly unlikely as I am the only one with an issue).
With that said, I made an interesting discovery. My phone, using USB Power Delivery, charges much faster than my girlfriend's, using QuickCharge 2.0 or 3.0. I tested this 2 times from 5% battery on both phones. I tested this with a QC 3.0 car charger and the OEM QC 2.0 charger. The difference is substantial... first test was about 40 minutes. My phone was near 80%, hers was at 55%. The 2nd test was only 15 minutes. Mine was near 40%, hers only 27%.
reaverclan said:
All my old QC chargers work and I'm currently using the note 7 oem one atm as it does not get as hot (charger not phone) as the LG oem one under load. What does the app ampere say your getting?
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Don't remember what Ampere says, but it was <500mA. Also, I used a USB current meter. It hovered around 5V/0.5A no matter what charger I used. I don't have a Type C/Power Delivery current meter, so I couldn't test those chargers... but USB PD is CLEARLY working very well on the V20. Much better than QC.
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It takes a while, try a very low battery and give it 10 minutes or more screen off, must be cool too
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It does not take awhile - takes <5 seconds to begin the QuickCharge process. Phone does not need a very low battery - will show fast charging regardless of the %. Does not need to be cool - fast charging is shown when the QC handshake occurs - not based on actual charging current. My girlfriend also has a V20. Every charger I tested with mine (which did not work), successfully QuickCharges hers.
Are you you using 56 k resistor cables?plus being rooted a kernel app would have a section to disable fast charge or enable it. Most devs disables by default. So if using custom kernel something to look in to. As I doubt there is anything wrong with your phone.
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Just got the aukey PA-T15 qc 3.0 seems fast charging fine though I have no time for a 0% to 100% test yet
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Are you you using 56 k resistor cables?plus being rooted a kernel app would have a section to disable fast charge or enable it. Most devs disables by default. So if using custom kernel something to look in to. As I doubt there is anything wrong with your phone.
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All of my cables are good. No custom kernel, and I've never seen a dev disable fast charging by default... that would be very unpopular.
Anyway, it seems that LG's recent phones, to include the G5 and V20, are actually supporting both QC 3.0 and USB PD. This is also probably why QC 3.0 chargers that use Type C do not work (the Anker PowerPort+ 1 in my case). On a C to C connection, with USB PD present, USB PD will take precedence over QC 3.0 (since QC 3.0 is illegal with C to C anyway). But that still doesn't explain why my phone doesn't QC via USB A to C... so I'll chalk it up to LG's garbage quality control.
I'm glad it worked out this way. USB PD charges my phone WAY faster than QC 3.0 charges my girlfriend's V20. So I would suggest you all dump QC 3.0 (because it's non-compliant to anyway) and grab USB PD equipment since it's the way of the future anyway.
I'm starting to think that there's something wrong with the way V20 handles QC 3.0. I'm in a somewhat similar situation with you, tested three different QC 3.0 using almost 10 different A->C cable (including the OEM cable) and none of them would deliver QC 3.0 speed. (I just came in a from Axon 7 and the difference between charging speed is night and day).
Additionally, I wish there's an app to properly identify what's going on during charging.
Using the built-in battery test from Service mode (see screenshot), it always says that I'm on QC 2.0 whenever I'm charging using QC 3.0 chargers.
My unit (LG-H990DS) is charging very quick though.
Using stock charger & cable, charging time is very consistent from 0 to 100%. 95 mins is all it takes.
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My unit (LG-H990DS) is charging very quick though.
Using stock charger & cable, charging time is very consistent from 0 to 100%. 95 mins is all it takes.
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The stock charger that LG sent with the V20 is actually a QC2.0 unit.
and with QC3.0, it'll take you less than an hour to fully charge.
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The stock charger that LG sent with the V20 is actually a QC2.0 unit.
and with QC3.0, it'll take you less than an hour to fully charge.
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Original Charger
Aukey QC3.0 Charger
Both results are similar.
So now LG V20 under utilise the Aukey QC3.0?
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Original Charger
Aukey QC3.0 Charger
Both results are similar.
So now LG V20 under utilise the Aukey QC3.0?
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I can't say for sure, because I have no way to get a baseline on how fast a QC 3.0 charger charge at the correct QC3.0 rate on the V20....
At least according to the battery test from the service mode menu, none of my QC3.0 chargers are being recognized as QC3....and it definitely doesn't charge as fast as 3.0 based on my previous experience with axon 7.
on The Axon 7, I can still be playing Mobius FF (which is very battery intensive) and still charging up at about 1% per minute.
I'm pretty sure our phone doesn't have QC3 as I just mentioned in another thread. I'm like.. 97% sure? I remember reading early on that it was QC2, and a blend of LG that got it a little more robust than that. I'm not sure all of what's required for QC3 to work, obviously the 820 SOC supports it, but, not sure why I read that we don't have QC3.,
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I'm pretty sure our phone doesn't have QC3 as I just mentioned in another thread. I'm like.. 97% sure? I remember reading early on that it was QC2, and a blend of LG that got it a little more robust than that. I'm not sure all of what's required for QC3 to work, obviously the 820 SOC supports it, but, not sure why I read that we don't have QC3.,
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Yeah, I'm starting to believe that's the case now. I just updated the thread btway, now they're saying that 3.0 isn't enabled by LG.
Not sure this is the case of Tmo employee not knowing their sh*t or what.
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Yeah, I'm starting to believe that's the case now. I just updated the thread btway, now they're saying that 3.0 isn't enabled by LG.
Not sure this is the case of Tmo employee not knowing their sh*t or what.
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FWIW, I have a couple of Aukey chargers. One is QC2, and one is QC3. They both "fast-charge" my phone, but I don't think I get the fastest charge on anything but the LG adapter. Usually it's fast enough for me, but I guess if I was 10-15% left, and I needed 100% in less than an hour, it might not happen.
I just picked up a US996 (Unlocked V20)... and found this site while trying to make a decision on buying new chargers, cables, etc.
I opened a chat with LG to ask them if the V20 supports USB-PD... and I got this response:
Merwin
Not that we can verify, Ryan we because we have not tested it. I highly suggest you to use the OEM charger of the V20.
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So... no help from Merwin @ LG. It seems they're not allowed to comment on it, and can only recommend the OEM charger. I was unaware that it was only QC2.0, according to the testing above.
Has anyone done more testing since? Can I buy a USB-PD charger and C-to-C cable? Should I avoid QC3.0?
Thanks
I'm interested in this as well having bought 2 QC3 chargers and neither charge my phone as fast as QC3 advertises.
I have used my brothers stock Nexus 6p charger from Google and the times are about equal to my QC3 chargers I bought
I'm using a Samsung QC 2.0 charger for mine:
https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-EP-TA20JWE-Travel-Charger-Devices/dp/B00TEUVEIO
I use it because I lost the LG one. It does quick charge but I can't measure the rate in the service menu. It just stays blank.
This is real easy, it happens with qc 3 on my v20 and s8+
The phone does not quick charge when the battery is warm or when the screen is on. Its really that simple. You can get faster charge times using a qc 2.0 charger or a dumb 18 watt adapter. Neither one is as picky about sending power to a warm battery, but your batteries life will be shorter than it was designed to be.
QC 3 will charge a cold empty battery faster, but in real life, it will preserve your battery over fast charging the phone.
So the data port on my Moto G3 is failing (loose), so I ordered a replacement part and figured I would keep it as a backup phone and move on to the Moto G6 as my main phone. I need a multi-port wall and car charger as mine are very old (As in single 5V voltage at 1 amp per port max) and figured that would be easy, just pick them up on Amazon.............NOT. I spent an entire day trying to figure out what was compatible with the phone (voltages, currents, wattages, fast charging technology) and as far as I can tell there is nothing out there. This is not just Motorola, as other manufacturers have their own standards. This really needs to be standardized.
I then contacted Anker. I mean come on, they have got to know right?. Here was their reply yesterday:
"But so sorry that the Moto G6 uses the exclusive turbo charge technology, we cannot guarantee 100% that our QC charger (Moto Turbo-charging is a quick charge technology based on QC) could charge the device fastly. "
It is bad enough every time I buy a new phone everything changes and I have to buy new chargers, cases, cables, sim cards, SD cards, etc. I am not saying that is a bad thing, as these technology changes usually mean improvements in speed, usability, reliability, etc. I just don't want to buy all this new stuff and have chargers that won't work with other devices I might buy shortly or be obsolete in months instead of years.
I guess I have to hold off until all of this stabilizes and standardizes. Thanks to Lineage my obsolete Moto G3 (According to Motorola) still runs great and has the latest security updates. My only concern is that the battery will be the next to go.
Every USB C charger I have plugged into my G6 has been compatible with turbopower charging... have used 3, one that came with it, my nexus 5X charger, and a cheap charging dock I got on amazon...
Could someone tell me what the model # and output electrical values are (Volts / Amps / Watts) that are written on the stock charger for the Moto G6. Motorola sells two different wall chargers with different specs. The output values should be specified as V / A/ W for 5V, 9V, and 12V.
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Could someone tell me what the model # and output electrical values are (Volts / Amps / Watts) that are written on the stock charger for the Moto G6. Motorola sells two different wall chargers with different specs. The output values should be specified as V / A/ W for 5V, 9V, and 12V.
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The charger I have for my G6 is either model SC-22 or SPN5993A (it's hard for me to tell next to all of this Chinese writing). The output is either 5V, 9V, or 12V.
Thanks. I was considering getting the on sale Moto G6 64 bit version today as it was only $259, but it is only available in the Indigo color. I will wait until the regular price lowers and the whole charging thing gets resolved. I ordered a part to fix my Moto G3 in the meantime. I also have a Nexus 4 as a backup phone so i am good to go for a while.
I can check tomorrow to be sure, but I think it uses the 5V 3A charging standard. I have a USB meeter that I can plug into the charger at work and see what it does. I don't think it does the 9V or 12V fast charge.
You simply need a QC 2.0 or 3.0 charger. Easy day. Both will turbo charge the Motorola. Ive used dozens of different brands on a few different Motorolas and they all turbo charge.
shawndak said:
You simply need a QC 2.0 or 3.0 charger. Easy day. Both will turbo charge the Motorola. Ive used dozens of different brands on a few different Motorolas and they all turbo charge.
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Thanks. I will get QC 3.0 chargers, unless if and when I decide to buy the phone, QC 4.0+ chargers are released and work with the Moto G6. I am probably going to wait for a non-Amazon 64GB RAM model to be released.
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... I am probably going to wait for a non-Amazon 64GB RAM model to be released.
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Especially if you are interested in unlocking the bootloader.
I too, just recently found that a 4/64 version of the regular G6 is available, but have only found the Amazon Prime version. I contacted Motorola and asked why this version is not available on their web site. So waiting to hear back.
32GB internal storage is just not enough, especially in the case of the X4, with the OS taking up 13GB.
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Especially if you are interested in unlocking the bootloader.
I too, just recently found that a 4/64 version of the regular G6 is available, but have only found the Amazon Prime version. I contacted Motorola and asked why this version is not available on their web site. So waiting to hear back.
32GB internal storage is just not enough, especially in the case of the X4, with the OS taking up 13GB.
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Yes , unlocking the bootloader is the main issue. Also, Lenovo is terrible with OS and security updates, both not timely and eventually not supporting the phone all together, so I would need the capability to install a ROM eventually, like what I did with my Moto G3.
Anker PowerCore+ 26800 with Qualcomm QuickCharge 3.0 (version that includes PowerPort+ 1 wall charger) QC 3.0 port (blue one on the right) charges Moto G6 in TurboPower charging mode, also the charger that comes with it works same way, both charge phone very quickly. Just like charger that came with the phone.
Using Anker USB C 3.0 braided and PVC cables.
I'm guessing any Qualcomm QC 3.0 -type charger will run in TurboPower mode with this phone.
I can't verify quick charge but I can verify that any phone charger supporting power delivery (type c "standard" for charging fast and not proprietary like quick charge) will definitely activate turbocharging.
Edit... After scouring the internet for a few minutes I'd just stick with power delivery chargers as it seems that quick charge chargers (qualcomms proprietary fast charging method) is a mixed bag of results as the G6 doesn't officially support quick charge while if you purchase a power delivery charger it'll just work.
We have the Moto G6, Nexus 6P (Huawei) and Moto Nexus 6 - the OEM Moto charger with the OEM cable obviously enabled the Turbo charging mode, the same charger does fast charging on the Nexus 6P as well as the old Nexus 6. Traded into Google my old Nexus 5X but kept the OEM USB-C fast charger, which works with all these 3 smartphones, I can't recall at the moment whether it's Turbo and/or Fast charging mode, as I left that at home and we are traveling on the road this weekend.
What I've noticed is that, sometimes, it will depend on the specific USB-C cable that I am using and/or possibly using one of the "certified" USB-C adapter plug (with the resistor) and an OEM/quality micro-USB charging cable with all the pins wired correctly.
On the road, I've been using an Anker 4-usb port charger that put out 2.4 amp per port at 5V (up to a max of 7.2 amp ... average of 1.8 amp) and it does charging these 3 devices fast, maybe not "turbo" mode. The speed is more than good and quick enough, won't take overnight hours to bring it up to 100%.
Moto G6 is stock OEM rom whereas N6P and Nexus 6 are custom roms.
the moto g6 play also support turbocharge it just doesnt come with the turbocharger block. i used my cousins block from his z2 force and everytime i connect it the phone says "turbo power connected" the moto g6 play is also not usb-c. the block that came with the phone only does as the phone says "rapidly charging" so yea its kinda weird lol
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the moto g6 play also support turbocharge it just doesnt come with the turbocharger block. i used my cousins block from his z2 force and everytime i connect it the phone says "turbo power connected" the moto g6 play is also not usb-c. the block that came with the phone only does as the phone says "rapidly charging" so yea its kinda weird lol
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Thanks. I'm actually considering grabbing a g6 play as a backup/work phone. I have a g6 with the turbocharger block. I'll probably have to grab a block once I test the g6 play... I bought that phone for my dad and he loves it... unlocked, of course.
It works with standard PD (5V, 9V) charger when I making a reply
Just to reaffirm, it works with a Power Delivery (PD) charger. QC is not the supported charging standard on the G6. So buy a charger that uses the PD standard.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B077HFFLMS/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MA10GH9/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07214QNQX/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I have both these charger blocks and those Anker cables. I don't have exact numbers but I know they charge my G6+ and my girlfriends X4 very fast and my G6+ says Turbo Power when connecting the charger.
Doesn't look like I already commented, but the Moto G6 uses the 5V 3A fast charge method, went to about 2.3A at most, it doesn't go to the 9v. I used a USB C amp meter that also shows voltage and is capable of fast charging. I know this works because it activates the Power delivery for my Chromebook with USB C and goes to 15V.
In general, there's two considerations here.
1.) Turbocharge is a fork of the QuickCharge specification. Anything rated for QuickCharge should work with it to some extent.
2.) the USB signalling is important. since the G6 uses a type C connector and specification, it is not technically always using the same signaling wires as USB 2.0, 3.0 type A (the big flat connector we all know and love)
So, if you're wanting to make sure everything works as it should, and is as broadly compatible as possible, make sure that the charger you are using is rated as at least Quickcharge 3.0, and that the cable you're using is certified for USB 3.1 (or 3.1 gen 2 as it is confusingly called) a lot of the USB-A to USB-c cables you'll find out there are actually usb 3.0 (also called USB 3.1 gen 1, ugh this naming convention), or even USB 2.0, cables with a type C connector slapped on them if you're getting some cheap chinese junk off amazon or ebay. Also remember that USB 3.1 cables are length sensetive, and should not be over 2 meteres (about 6 ft) long unless you are using what is called an 'active cable.' These have microchips in their connectors and are generally more expensive.
Basically, when the charger is unplugged, the adapter runs in 5V mode, which is safe and good. But when the tablet is connected, then it is upgraded to 9V mode. any USB devices connected with a splitter on the charger wire will receive 9V also! This near doubling of voltage could cause devices to be fried, so make sure your Huawei power adapter isn't powering any hubs!!
YouTube demo video coming soon, overvolting a fan!
Good catch!
Thanks for sharing.
I thought charges and/or device ports had a regulator to control input voltage?
CorruptedSanity said:
Good catch!
Thanks for sharing.
I thought charges and/or device ports had a regulator to control input voltage?
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Most electronics with a USB port will only be rated for say 5v, or maybe 6v to allow for naughty USB power supplies. 9v is nearly double 5v, and on sensitive low-tech chargers, like resistive ones that charge 18650 or whatever, you could expose the battery to a much higher voltage than what it should have, which could cause an explosion or whatever. I used a fan since it should be able to handle the extra voltage quite happily.
What do you mean fan?
Used a fan to cool what?
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Basically, when the charger is unplugged, the adapter runs in 5V mode, which is safe and good. But when the tablet is connected, then it is upgraded to 9V mode. any USB devices connected with a splitter on the charger wire will receive 9V also! This near doubling of voltage could cause devices to be fried, so make sure your Huawei power adapter isn't powering any hubs!!
YouTube demo video coming soon, overvolting a fan!
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There is not problem at all. Qualcomm charge technology and USB 3.1 do the same. The charger and the device negotiate what voltage they want to send the same power but less current (more efficient). You are not supposed to o what you did, it your fault and not from Huawei.
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There is not problem at all. Qualcomm charge technology and USB 3.1 do the same. The charger and the device negotiate what voltage they want to send the same power but less current (more efficient). You are not supposed to o what you did, it your fault and not from Huawei.
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what I was getting at is that if you were to use a splitter, like I did, then be careful, as the voltage might raise. This is not a concern most of the time, but it's good to just be careful.
My OnePlus 5T and it's dash charging only works when these 3 conditions are satisfied:
Dash charger
Stock OnePlus lead
Nothing else plugged in
otherwise it will default down to normal. It's a shame that this didn't happen on the Huawei charger, but hopefully this means that it will be easier for implementation for powerbanks, I can't find any dash charge power banks. And also apparently Huawei phones usually play nice with other chargers. (USB-C power delivery I'm not sure on this device).
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what I was getting at is that if you were to use a splitter, like I did, then be careful, as the voltage might raise. This is not a concern most of the time, but it's good to just be careful.
My OnePlus 5T and it's dash charging only works when these 3 conditions are satisfied:
Dash charger
Stock OnePlus lead
Nothing else plugged in
otherwise it will default down to normal. It's a shame that this didn't happen on the Huawei charger, but hopefully this means that it will be easier for implementation for powerbanks, I can't find any dash charge power banks. And also apparently Huawei phones usually play nice with other chargers. (USB-C power delivery I'm not sure on this device).
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I am just annoyed that Huawei do not use QC or USB-PD standards and I must use their charge to charge fast. I do not mind the 9v as my QC devices charges fast on the Huawei charger but not the other way round, forcing me to either change all my chargers or carry an extra charger.
Not sure if you are talking about FCP for in or out of powerbank, I have a Tronsmart powerbank that supports both QC3 and FCP out. It also supports QC in, which means it MAY charge faster with the Huawei's stock charger. I had not tested it that way yet but I think it should as the Huawei charger charges my other QC devices at QC speed.
Tronsmart Presto Power bank:
https://www.tronsmart.com/products/tronsmart-presto-10000mah-quick-charge-3-0-power-bank
Note that their own specifications regarding the input is incorrect, this picture shows the actual specifications behind the device, which shows it can take [email protected] in.
https://the-gadgeteer.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/tronsmart-presto-3.jpg
Also refer to my thread from a while back discussing FCP and QC.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mediapad-m5/help/m5-quick-charge-t3822277
alvinlwh said:
I am just annoyed that Huawei do not use QC or USB-PD standards and I must use their charge to charge fast. I do not mind the 9v as my QC devices charges fast on the Huawei charger but not the other way round, forcing me to either change all my chargers or carry an extra charger.
Not sure if you are talking about FCP for in or out of powerbank, I have a Tronsmart powerbank that supports both QC3 and FCP out. It also supports QC in, which means it MAY charge faster with the Huawei's stock charger. I had not tested it that way yet but I think it should as the Huawei charger charges my other QC devices at QC speed.
Tronsmart Presto Power bank:
https://www.tronsmart.com/products/tronsmart-presto-10000mah-quick-charge-3-0-power-bank
Note that their own specifications regarding the input is incorrect, this picture shows the actual specifications behind the device, which shows it can take [email protected] in.
https://the-gadgeteer.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/tronsmart-presto-3.jpg
Also refer to my thread from a while back discussing FCP and QC.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mediapad-m5/help/m5-quick-charge-t3822277
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I know your trouble, I have a OP5t, and that charges at 7.5W from my Huawei charger, when it can charge at 20W using dash charger, my mediapad charges at 10W from the dash charger, out of 18w capability. I do look silly carrying round two chargers with the same plug on them!!
Yeah no dash charger power bank, at least there is a Huawei FCP one like you said, I might get that as my next one, but I've got a lovely EC technologies powerbank, and that only does 10W no matter what, shame really as it is 82whr (massive!).
Michaelflat1 said:
I know your trouble, I have a OP5t, and that charges at 7.5W from my Huawei charger, when it can charge at 20W using dash charger, my mediapad charges at 10W from the dash charger, out of 18w capability. I do look silly carrying round two chargers with the same plug on them!!
Yeah no dash charger power bank, at least there is a Huawei FCP one like you said, I might get that as my next one, but I've got a lovely EC technologies powerbank, and that only does 10W no matter what, shame really as it is 82whr (massive!).
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Luckily (for me at least!), I do not normally carry my M5 around and therefore do not need quick charge on it. Even if taken on holiday, it can charge overnight in the hotel. However this put me off Huawei (and OnePlue, Oppo and any other brands that do not use QC standards) for my future purchase.
Wow, I didn't realize how bad this bites. MediaPad was my first QC3 device. Used it's charger in my bedroom. Then got a LG v35 QC3 phone last week to replace old Nexus 6P (USB C-PD). So excited to see the Huawei charger fast-charging both devices. So irritating to now realize that the LG QC3 charger won't fast charge the M5!
And Huawei is using a proprietary QC3 charging mechanism? ie. are there any compatible chargers on Amazon or only the charger from Huawei will fast charge the M5?
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Wow, I didn't realize how bad this bites. MediaPad was my first QC3 device. Used it's charger in my bedroom. Then got a LG v35 QC3 phone last week to replace old Nexus 6P (USB C-PD). So excited to see the Huawei charger fast-charging both devices. So irritating to now realize that the LG QC3 charger won't fast charge the M5!
And Huawei is using a proprietary QC3 charging mechanism? ie. are there any compatible chargers on Amazon or only the charger from Huawei will fast charge the M5?
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Sorry, Huawei does not use QC standards but their own FCP/SCP instead. QC chargers will not fast charge Huawei gear but Huawei charger MAY charge QC gear fast.
So if I plug my M5 into a standard QC3.0 charger (9v I think), does it at least charge somewhat faster than a standard, non-QC charger? I would assume so. And are they're any 3rd party fasxt chargers compatible w/Huawei's dumbarse proprietary QC3 charging?
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So if I plug my M5 into a standard QC3.0 charger (9v I think), does it at least charge somewhat faster than a standard, non-QC charger? I would assume so. And are they're any 3rd party fasxt chargers compatible w/Huawei's dumbarse proprietary QC3 charging?
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No it doesn't, as confirmed by a V/A USB meter. It will only top out at 5V/2A.
I repeat again, Huawei does NOT use QC3 technology, but FCP/SCP technology. If you are looking for a charger that can do both QC and FCP from the same socket, read through the tread again as I had already posted a brand and model that had been tested and confirmed to do both.
Ah, sorry, me dumb and had in my head that M5 was QC3. Now I get it -- FCP, not same as QC3. OK, I see your link and several other chargers compatible w/QC3 and FCP. Thanks!
Hi,
I have a ThinkPad E580 which comes along with a charger Type-C, on the charger has been written : OUTPUT: 20V-3.25A / 15V-3A / 9V-2A / 5V-2A
Is it safe to try charge my MediaPad M5 by this charger?
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Hi,
I have a ThinkPad E580 which comes along with a charger Type-C, on the charger has been written : OUTPUT: 20V-3.25A / 15V-3A / 9V-2A / 5V-2A
Is it safe to try charge my MediaPad M5 by this charger?
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I had used USB PD adaptors on the M5 before and it charges fine, but not quickly.
My Pad (M5 10.8 WiFi) charges via USB PD with 18 Watts using the 9 Volt Profile. What doesn't work is Quick Charge. Power delivery works fine
Is there anything special about the actual Huawei furnished cable? I need a longer one than what was furnished.
reubenray said:
Is there anything special about the actual Huawei furnished cable? I need a longer one than what was furnished.
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Nothing whatsoever
But get a good one that supports high wattage.
Some cables only transmit 5 watts
Meaning 5v and 1 amp
Technology from 2005
Will the 45w fast charger for samsung note 10 plus be compatible with warp charge for my 7 Pro? Or, will a oneplus car charger with warp charge still fast charge the note 10 plus??
Or which charger should i get for the fastest charging possible for both phones in mind?
yikchandev said:
Will the 45w fast charger for samsung note 10 plus be compatible with warp charge for my 7 Pro? Or, will a oneplus car charger with warp charge still fast charge the note 10 plus??
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Warp charging is OnePlus specific. It requires heat management on the charger side, and only a Warp-specific charger will do that. I remember from the OnePlus 3T (which had "Dash" charging, of which Warp is just an updated version) folks found that Oppo "VOOC" chargers were compatible with the 3T's Dash charging. One person said that Dash was simply a rebranding of the VOOC fast charging technology (and in fact just same charger but different color and band name on it). Oppo owns a part of OnePlus, and I think OnePlus even uses Oppo's manufacturing facilities, if I remember correctly. So it might be the same with Warp (an Oppo charger may work).
Otherwise, no other charger is going to work unless it says OnePlus and Warp on it.
I don't follow Samsung very closely. I remember their fast charging being proprietary, but not as "picky" as OnePlus. It's not a choice on the OnePlus/Warp side. So you should probably start with the Warp car charger, and see if it fast charges on the Note 10. That's probably the best you can do.
It has definitely become a problem that phone fast-charging technology is not standardized. Too many companies want to use their own proprietary fast charging system, to differentiate themselves from the competition (and to credit OnePlus, Warp is pretty darned impressive!). Qualcomm tried to standardize this, for at least phones with Snapdragon chipsets, with their Quick Charge (QC) technology. But there are even some companies (I think Samsung is one) that disabled QC on Snapdragon phones. And of course, not all phones use Snapdragon chipsets.